Episode #224: Will the College Football Season be Cancelled?

In this episode Santiago Leon and Ty Turner discuss the potential scheduling changes for college football.

Show Notes

College Football season to be cancelled?
Schedule shrinked to eight games?
Notre Dame will play in the ACC under this scenario?
Spring Football to cancelled in most college football conferences
2020 Elite 11 update

Poll Question

It’s #NationalHotDogMonth, what is the most important condiment for the hot dog?
Ketchup- 50%, Mustard- 42.9%, Mayonnaise- 7.1%, Relish- 0
Ty Turner: Ketchup
https://twitter.com/thesportscast1/status/1278648276955410437

Transcript

Santiago Leon
boards cast July 2 2020 if you haven’t yet please subscribe on all our channels, Facebook, iTunes and Periscope and if you’re an iTunes please leave a rating and review. It will help us out tremendously. And visit us on sports cast dotnet the sports cast dotnet This episode is brought to you by instant Bible lab you can download the Bible app on the iOS App Store. college football has been a question mark these past couple of days will the season be on? Certain conferences just play but we don’t know. But we’re gonna flesh this out with Ty Turner All the way from a gym in Minneapolis somewhere Welcome to this fourth guest for Tyson Turner what what’s been happening on the neck of the woods? what it feels like you’re able to able to go to gyms now.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, we are.

Santiago Leon
Sound sounds good and how much have you bench now?

Tyler Turner
I don’t even I wouldn’t have any idea. I haven’t done any kind of hyperbolic strength training in I don’t know, almost a decade. So I have not not done any one rep. Not that’s not how I train anyway, more hit interval training next year, but anaerobic anaerobic, used to do some CrossFit, I still implement some CrossFit workouts. It’s Thursday from the body, but I don’t do any heavy load

Santiago Leon
Let’s go into the college football season Tyler Of course, you know a lot of things going on with COVID-19 you know certain sports are just coming down to many tournaments. Football is a big question mark. Of course NFL is recently cut down the preseason to two games, college football, which you’ve been hearing some rumors about that I’ve been hearing that they’re gonna cut the season. Well, maybe to cancel it altogether. What have you been hearing from your end?

Tyler Turner
Well, where have you heard that they’re gonna cancel it altogether.

Santiago Leon
You mentioned something about it on our chat, which we have on WhatsApp guys rumblings about that now. I just got Yeah, so don’t blame me. I got it from you.

Tyler Turner
Well, yeah, I’ve never I’m just kind of, yeah, I would put it out there. I would even put that out there. More rumblings from all liberals that I would read it on board. And according to them, you know, it’s perfectly acceptable to ride Process tasks with thousands and thousands of people, when and for personally, having played a game in front of thousands of people has to be cancelled until a vaccine. So that’s kind of how they go, you know? I have no qualms about saying it, because this has been completely politicized, and hopefully pragmatism and the ability of each Commissioner for each power five conference to come together and have a reasonable solution. canceling society closing out everything for an insurmountable time. It’s just not practical. At the end of the day, most of society it may be susceptible to possibly getting the virus, if not deadly for most people. There’s a lot of dad out and they’re constantly canceling stuff is, is not it’s not it’s not a sustainable thing for our economy, and it will not be sustainable for sporting industry. So unless there is a severe danger and risk and there’s a risk of mortality, Risk of something on a very serious hyperbolic level on you have to continue with life. It’s common sense. And it’s unfortunately I’ve I’ve come to the conclusion, there’s just too much evidence out there that this is just it’s just certainly a political issue. And that’s why there’s so much differentiated data and stuff out there. You cannot believe the media there on one side of the spectrum for one way and the most part, so, you’ve got to use common sense, but I believe the common sense will prevail, and there will be a college football season.

Santiago Leon
Now tie from your perspective, do you think it should be a shortened season? Do you think that should be fans? What do you think’s gonna

Tyler Turner
happen? The only reason why I think it’s going to be a shortened season possibly. And there will be a more limited amount of fans is to appease everyone. Um, do I think it’s absolutely necessary? No, I think they could do the season as is. I think they could probably Answers require maybe a math arm. But I don’t think they’ll be able to come to consensus or they’ll have to be a kind of a middle ground or a middle ground would be maybe a 10 game nonprofit start up 10 game conference season and only half capacity with a crowd. That’s what I think you’ll wind up in it that’s to appease everyone not

Santiago Leon
because that’s what should happen. Just to remind everyone in the college football scene season, most FBS teams play 12 regular season games per year with eight or nine of those games coming against conference opponents. I’m one team that has been an speculation if it goes all conference is nor gain their independence. What should they do? Should they join a conference or they might not be playing at all?

Tyler Turner
Well, normally that’s not gonna happen. Oh, they will play they’ll probably go on the ACC for the year. They’re affiliated with the ACC in every other country. In every other sport and they also have several games that season against ACC opponents. Let me pull it up here in a second. And they’re just put them into an ACC schedule. Hold on. See the judge all the way they play. Wait for us to play. Six for good play Duke. They play Clemson they play Georgia Tech. They play Louisville await they have 123456 games already against a full hacer schedule it gets ACC for all they’d have to do is that they have to statically attend gay policies and I believe everyone the ACC plays nine games. So for teams to just pick Notre Dame up as an extra game. I’d be pretty easy. So yeah, there’s probably going to

Santiago Leon
be something to definitely look at. Of course, we’ve been hearing rumblings A shortened season could happen like Ty says he thinks 10 is best. I’ve been hearing eight. Would it be? I mean if they do a they’ll have a late start, I guess maybe like late Septe

Tyler Turner
ber? Well, the reason why I’m pushing back against eight is because I’ve the ACC I’m not sure about these things, but I know the PAC 12 the big 10 sec. I think our eight game is a big 12 I’m not sure tactical is not. So how are you going to do a game to win? Like if you’re, if it’s an eight game season, then I guess you have to cancel a game and conference for like a pack of options. And it just seems like it’d be easier to add to conference games to conferences like sec big 10 and then to just have one conference, extra game for like a PAC 12. And whatever. I don’t know what helped my life. I don’t know which Exactly. Count the nine games I know Taekwondo. That’s all I have to lose the complicated

Santiago Leon
tuff you follow Pac 12 really closely whatever you heard on the

Tyler Turner
e as well Pac ball obviously everyone is going to be alright is right they’re gonna be the most well they’re gonna they’re gonna figure ou

Santiago Leon
how political today haven’t

Tyler Turner
you? Well, because it is everything is a slice political. That’s the thing like now every like I blondies for sports, like don’t get political. Everything’s political, fire. Political, yes. Political, crypto word Christian, political Jesus political, everything’s political. So it is political. So I can’t avoid it and a conference like Pac 12 on the west coast, which obviously, do I need to say more? They’re gonna have more. They have the most issue even we can all be of all Democratic governors in Oregon and Washington. In California, and that makes up seven of their teams. You got Utah you got Arizona, you have a Colorado Democrat. Most of the governors of the states are Democrats. Obviously there’s opening up the states for a lot of them have a lot more restrictions. So there is that issue to deal with, as opposed to, let’s say, the SEC, where he got states, I mean, I was in sec country. I was in Georgia. I was in South Carolina, Florida states are very, I was an employee. I just was in Georgia, top Carolina. And those states are completely open. There’s very limited restrictions. So obviously, you know, the South Carolina’s the Georgia, the Georgia Tech’s that Yeah, you’re like Florida, the Florida, the Florida state’s the Miami, they are going to have a lot more ability to have fans. They have a lot less restrictions on them. Whereas states like California, Oregon and Washington are unless you belong to the Republic of jazz, they have a lot more restrictions on them. So unless chasey wants to come up with a like, you know, getting that new stadium together maybe in that area.

Santiago Leon
They did it this morning, I believe, or yeste

Tyler Turner
day. But I, I think that it’ll be it’s a little more difficult, but at the end of the day money speak, but that’s why I think there’ll be consensus, meaning that the C might say, Hey, we want to play a small game schedule with 70% capacity with fans. Then let’s say the WOLF PAC 12 says, we only want to play a game with 20% fan. And then you’ll have like the big 10, which actually would be very much more so than most, you know, you have states like Ohio that’s more open but then you have states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota that are in Wisconsin’s like in the middle. So then you have states that are more open and not as big both kind of in the middle. You got the South That’s pretty much going to be a moral been filled in, I think they all have to come to a consensus. And whatever they agree upon for the consensus will probably what that schedule will be. And I think, obviously the more restrictive more less and less games will probably be pushed by like the PAC 12 the big 10 the more fans, more games will be pushed by like sec, ACC maybe even the big 12. And I think they’ll they’ll be in the middle somewhere. And I think we’ll all said that it will be a conference. Only schedule. I believe it will be maybe 50% capacity was bad. And I se

Santiago Leon
25% I say 25 that’s my g

Tyler Turner
ess. I think it’ll be 50. Okay. Want to bet on tha? 25 I don’t bad okay. That’ why why do you think why? Why do you say twice? I said I listen. Why do you Why do you

Santiago Leon
hink I didn’t hear any I didn’t read any evidence, but I’ve been hearing from the other leagues. Like, for example, last car, European leagues, they start off at 25%. That’s why, which is what my my consensus

Tyler Turner
s. So, okay, here’s a question for you. Okay. Let’s say they start off at 25%. And then it turns out that things aren’t bad. Do you think they ramp up to 5

Santiago Leon
% 50%? Yes. Yes. Either mid season or towards t

Tyler Turner
e end. Okay, that’s what okay. Yeah, I could see it. Yeah. And what do you think what are you h

Santiago Leon
aring? What I’m hearing? What I’ve been hearing from the chat, so I didn’t hear anything outside. I’ve been hearing a shortened season with college football. 25

Tyler Turner
Well, sorry, not the end. Yeah. Well established that one of us does have a source that is actually beneficial for one of the conferences Yes. And, and he stated that well, because it makes us arguments better. stated that right now. That consensus is leaning toward a conference only season before you know before game 14 playoff no bowl game and he didn’t say anything about capacity but you could be right maybe you could b

Santiago Leon
right we could probably ask him a little bit later on which Col

Tyler Turner
rado I don’t want to hear Dr. crouches opinion

Santiago Leon
on it. Oh man but I thought he was

Tyler Turner
sport the guy’s not it has a guy ever gave a solid answer on anything or he just make these little like all things could be getting worse you just put them up there to like freak everyone out and didn’t didn’t doesn’t answer one other qu

Santiago Leon
stion. Yeah, anyways, I’m gonna go with him anyways, um, which conference all conference schedule would be like the most interesting I say the SEC. What’s

Tyler Turner
yours? Yeah, yeah. sec big dad. There will be controversy because what I could see is This would be the measurable part. Um, so let’s say the SEC tough schedule. Let’s say they all lose one game. Okay. And then you have undefeated champs, hypothetically let’s say Oregon’s undefeated the PAC 12. Oklahoma’s undefeated in the big 12 you got ACC Clemson’s undefeated and then you have a limited commerce big 10 Ohio State’s undefeated but then you have a one loss champion at sec what would what would people be saying if sec gets left out? You know, especially since they’re scheduled by far the topic, but then you also want to leave out Oregon your lead on undefeated are by prophecy. He was pretty good. I don’t know that that is there could be there could be some controversy. That could be good a

Santiago Leon
ticle. Okay, let’s move on. Um, there has been discussion of cancel. I mean, For some conferences that cancel like the spring season for next year, what have you heard abou

Tyler Turner
Okay, say that again

Santiago Leon
r like the football spring football season, you know, which is you know, a small practice and a I’ve heard there’s that there’s a possibility to do also canceled th

Tyler Turner
t too. Okay, so I mean, why don’t they just like let things play out? I’m sure after November 11 so I’m sure after November 4 restrictions will lessen. That’s just my prediction. So what I don

Santiago Leon
t know we’re trying to be a political here but it’s impossible

Tyler Turner
Isn’t it? Impossible? No, you’re right. I’m you made the point. I’m harboring my inner clay

Santiago Leon
ravis. Great guy. Probably one of the best sports journalists or sports Twitter guys out there. The other ones Wow. It’s you can’t follow sports. It’s all Anyways, I don’t wanna get int

Tyler Turner
this. Why do they even although I do have a question I do have a question for you. Okay? If you if you want the season canceled and you’re just going to push one side all the time. Why are you working is working media true Why are they working in fourth grade? Like if they don’t if they want everything shut down and they should shu

Santiago Leon
down? I don’t want anything shu

Tyler Turner
down. I want things at least I agree. No, I agree. I don’t want stuff to happen but all the guys that seem to be pushing the other side the wire Why don’t they give up the job for a while? Yeah, you’re right. I mean, like it’s not like we read anything from them. That’s enlightening. A

Santiago Leon
yways. Anyways, I was asked you about how is like the athletic doing we’ll talk about that a little bit later. Okay, good. This part of the show, Tyler. Obviously follows you know, a lot of talent as well, not just recruiting but also talent within the squads. Can you name us your top most talented rosters in the PAC 12 rig

Tyler Turner
t now. In the Okay, so specifically the past well you want me to do the whole country just want me to do the bask

Santiago Leon
tball, the super PAC 12 and I and if we have time, we might squeeze another one, but I doubt it. But go

Tyler Turner
ahead. Okay, so in the PAC 12, I’m gonna do an article that’s gonna break it down into tears. And I actually went through and I actually added together all the quality points for each recruit. So like if they’re a recruit that as a score of 99.80, which is a five star, which is probably one of the highest in a class, I’ll be their top five every year, he would have 29.80 quality points. So I went through and added the quality points of all the tier two teams, a tier two college football roster, it wouldn’t get I added together all of the what I would consider the tier two talent rosters in college football. So the tier one roster are, Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia and Ohio State. The reason why they’re tier one is because they have 50 plus blue chip players. They have almost 30 plus top players they have double digit five stars. Those are clearly the five best rosters on paper in college football. Those are tier one rosters. Those are elite rosters. Those are championship roster however you want to put in tier two is the one that I would all consider college football rosters very good rosters rosters with pretty much half past or better blue chip players you know, close to most of the post the double digit on top 100 players and multiple five stars. And in there if you want to simply just fully Ace the PAC 12 teams I had. I would have three tier two rosters in the PAC 12. So zero to one. I don’t have Have any tier one rosters in the PAC 12. I don’t think any of the rosters are at the level of a Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia and LSU. But the tier two and USC would fall when I added these points on my formula, they fall at number 10 currently. And if I add when I added all these points together, I believe they fell on flopped on my head, I think it was actually 11. So I think they’re number 11. When I added the quality points in there number 10. In my formula I, Oregon is 13 when I added all the quality points that they were 12. Now, if I were to actually in a in a nutshell, compare for UNC versus Oregon, you would see a lot of their players that have rated five stars that were top 100 level players haven’t necessarily played to that level. And I think a lot of that goes to just the culture of USC development of the coaching staff. So even though on paper USC has a slight edge over Oregon, because of how the Oregon players have played either at or above their recruiting rankings, I would rank Oregon’s roster applause USC and that’s not I know more than I know that they’re seeing that I cover and it’s like the end of but I’m being filled with just an objective perspective. If you compare five star, five star, four star four star, you have five stars at USC that have not played at an all conference level that have not been big time producers, whereas guys like him tibideaux was the freshman all American and a fool was the Outland Trophy winner first team all American, the kale right was freshman all American, and those are all the best rated guy for Oregon. So the way to put that would be freakin high rated guys have played to the writing whereas USC has had gu

Tyler Turner
s like Hello guys Today, however you say his name, he hasn’t done a whole lot at USC, who’s another guy that it was a really high rated guy for USC, Elijah Griffin. He was a five star his first two years he hasn’t been an all conference performer. He wasn’t a freshman all American chrissteele wasn’t a freshman all American. He was a top 50 guys. So Stephen Carr was a five star. That’s a five star coming out of high school. He has not played to that level has not been an all conference running back was not one of the highest, most productive group returning running back in the PAC 12. So I would say I’ll give an edge if you’re going to say the data to go along with the production that Oregon’s ranked higher than USC. And then at number three, as with Washington, Washington is a little below Oregon and USC as far as the baseline. Finish lower when it comes to the overall points in my team formula. They finished floor when it came to a point where I might put that formula here with all the points, they rank lower than both USC and Oregon, and I believe Washington in June crispier, since time guide, actually outplayed writing, so he had a lot of guys that were three stars that ended up becoming second third round draft picks. So let’s see how Jimmy Lake does, but I would put them at three. And then if I was going to have a third tier, which might I might not because I don’t really think a third tier but for the most part has even made the college football playoff. I would probably put Stanford and Arizona state their Stanford finishes 20th mit in our formula, Arizona State is in the neck. It’d be about another 28th grade roster, but I think that they’re there. I don’t think either of those rosters are really capable of making the college football playoff. I think you have rosters that can make the college football playoff in the big 12 from a baseline talent perspective. And even though the baby Find data with edge out USC I think if you look at the production plus data Oregon rosters backlog, of

Santiago Leon
course Oregon is conducted by Mr. crystal ball, a talented coach but also a good recruiter. First thing he did in Oregon was get the recruiting system going and got big names so far and and it’s still working out so Tyler has high hopes for him still, and the organization as well and we’ll see what happens with the PAC 12. And no more the civil war game so yeah, if I ever go there, will not surprised but it’s okay. Anyways, let’s go to our next topic, the elite level it is a quarterback competition for high school quarterbacks across the United States. The elite level was founded in 1999 by Andy bark and continues to be run by his company, students sports Incorporated. It is hosted at the Nike world headquarters in Beaverton, Oregon. Tyler, tell us a little bit about this year’s

Tyler Turner
eap 11 yeah the series is a little different because you know obviously a lot of things were shut down they normally delete 11 has a seven on seven portion where the quarterback play with some of the most elite wide receivers in the country. They did not have that this year. But it was three days of competition the first day I believe was on Route three. So they had every quarterback go through a route tree day two was a pro day style worked out with Chad each quarterback through a pro day style workout that had them go down dramatically. Starting at the five yard line short passes and then they would air the ball to the field but water passes in a mix in rollouts and scramble drills until they barely got got the goal lines go live past drills and the day three. They did dislike get it kind of like hit the target drill and you had to hit a target before you moved on to the next station. I honestly have the three drills. I thought that was weird. But the other two I thought were pretty applicable to overall football on the MVP was Caleb Williams out of the bag of crap in Washington DC. He makes his commitments on July 4, I believe it will be Oklahoma in the 247 crystal ball which all the experts predict someone to go somewhere is a unanimous choice to go to Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Once again, we’ll add a top quarterback not surprising. Um, according to 247 sports and rivals.com is the top performer at the actual event. So the elite 11 MVP went to a guy that was good the event but also what came into play with his overall production as a junior in high school. But then, from rivals calm and 247. They gave the top performer and then to ty Thompson from Arizona, and he’s committed to get into Oregon, Oregon. I see very impressive I saw him. event. The first two days. I believe he was the best. Looking prospect. six foot by 215 pounds. He’s not like Justin Herbert. If there could be a comparison that he would do he’s very similar to Herbert sighs athletic ability. That’s it right here. Yeah here. Herbert is even kind of like him personality wise. Oh fly. Yeah, well yeah, let me quiet my introvert. Yeah, he’s good soon. Um, so I think in the browser, I think he’ll he’ll he’s going to get a bomb. I think he’ll end up the top 15 maybe a five star prospect and all said and done. So credibly impressed so the Oregon is going to be in a good place with him. I think Oklahoma will be in a good place. Caleb Williams. I also liked how Brock Vandergriff Georgia commit he won the gadget drill. He’s a five star He’s a good looking prospect. Kind of a dual threat guy but I think he’s a good looking athlete. Um, who else was I impressed slam a cord. The kid who’s going to Ohio State is a big arm. I don’t think he’s quite like in today’s college football you really want mobility is a premium. Just with all these unique defenses and all these exotic defenses I just think that you’re really happy to be able to move in the pocket. And before it has a huge arm he’s a really good arm talent. I do think he lacks a little bit of that mobility that’s necessary. I like to do real shit. That’s going to Florida. I thought he had a good arm good athlete. That is overall pretty impressive kid and if Miller mom was going to USC was a solid I don’t think he’s a he’s a bunch. I don’t think he’s a high ceiling guy. He’s not super big does have a great arm as a pro athlete, but I think he’s a very consistent kind of player. I think he could be a very consistent college quarterback. Those are my top performers. Ah, If I had to predict who I think will be the three best in college, I mean you have to like anyone that goes into Lincoln Riley system. So I want Caleb Williams going into Oklahoma. And Vandergriff is going to play around a lot of talent at Georgia. And, you know, Oregon has been great at producing top level quarterbacks with more guys in the first and second round this decade more than anyone outside of Oklahoma USC, so I like Thompson and I liked his ability. I like him playing in the Oregon offense, and I think he will be a very good college quart

Santiago Leon
rback. Yep, notable 11 has notable have a lot of history from it and our stars coming came from it. Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford James Winston Bridgewater Matt liner, Geno Smith, Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Vince Young Kyle Orton and Troy Smith. And you can see it on YouTube, I believe, right. Yep. There we h

Tyler Turner
ve it. Here I was able to watch it all live on Instagram Live late 11 was was

Santiago Leon
video. Ty Turner, of course covers the talent and the scouting. Tyler give us a quick 62nd recruiting update anything lately happening like these past couple weeks that it’s notable to mention on th

Tyler Turner
show? Well, when it comes to Oregon, Oregon has a number six class they’re probably they’re trended in the 2% crystal ball for several other top 100 prospects. I think Oregon, as long as these in as long as it’s good, I think they’ll land a top and maybe a top five class which seems a good right now Ohio State has the number one class they’re having a ridiculous class. Alabama and Georgia is really starting to heat up with a trail that landed top 100 prospects you know other teams are doing well Tennessee’s had a good class North Carolina has a number of class in the country. Mack Brown has recruited at a very good level last time and look for Oklahoma, the land Taylor Williams on July 4, another five o’clock sharp back at the quarterback position going to Oklahoma. I guess you could call it kind of consider that ubu not surprising last few years that had ties to Trophy winners two first round draft pick and another high drop So yeah, that’s what if

Santiago Leon
you do keep an eye out on the sports cast net Tyler will definitely flesh out like the news when it comes to talent and scouting and how things are going talent never stops COVID hasn’t stopped it. And the wars when it comes to recruiting still going on behind the scenes. Anything else before we head into poll que

Tyler Turner
tions? I’m good man. What is the most im

Santiago Leon
ortant what’s what is the most important condiment for the hot dog? The options are ketchup, relish mayonnaise or

Tyler Turner
ustard days off

Santiago Leon
I know oh people do it. Catch up. Catch up. It is winning 50% in the poll Twitter poll, mustard is coming at second Manet’s at third relish is coming in last. You could vote on the sports cast net Twitter at the sports cast. One tight Turner what is the best way to reach you talk to you about Michigan, Wolverine fo

Tyler Turner
tball. Wolverines. Well, you might need to go to someone who likes Wolverines in michigan football at

Santiago Leon
Turner and Michigan State. Follow us on Twitter. So that’s saying a lot for us really is. Go fart. And of course, our Twitter is at the sports cast one, the sports cast one and of course, the sports cast dotnet for the latest and greatest lot going on NFL season schedule is it’s starting to be clear a little bit but we’ll see. We’ll find out more a little bit later, too. Today if the preseason you know will be cut a little bit shorter or the main like the regular season will be pushed back we’ll see. But hopefully everything I mean everyone’s okay with the college with with it at the NFL preseason, cutting short so no compla

Tyler Turner
nts oh yeah I don’t yeah I don’t mind stuff like that it

Santiago Leon
s just tough the hoopla Let’s not make Dr. falchi the NFL commissioner anyti

Tyler Turner
e soon he more tha he is he I mean he obviously isn’t. But yeah, a

Santiago Leon
yways, Ty Turner great show.

Tyler Turner
See you later

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