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Episode #244: PAC-12, Big 10, & ACC College Football Schedule Analysis with @TurnerCast & @sleon

Most of the college football schedules have been released, and the SEC is saving the best for last. Who has the easiest and toughest schedule.

Contributors
Ty Turner – @TurnerCast
Santiago Leon @sleon

Headlines
PAC-12 Schedule
Big-10 Schedule
PAC-12 Players Letter
Big 10 Players Letter
ACC Releases 2020 Football Schedule
PGA Championship tees off in the Bay

Show Notes

Penn State’s LB Micah Parson won’t be playing this college football season and will begin preparations for the 2021 Draft.

Pac-12 Schedule
Pac-12: 10-game, conference-only schedule with one bye week per team and a week off on in mid-December. The plan is to begin on Sep. 26 and end on Dec. 18 or 19.

The new schedule features rivals Arizona at Arizona State and USC at UCLA in the first week instead of the traditional end to the regular season.

Rivalry games are usually played in November in the week of Thanksgiving. But that’s not the case this year, as the Pac-12 has scheduled two of its biggest rivalries in Week 1: USC at UCLA and Arizona State at Arizona. However, considering California and Arizona have been hit hard by the COVID-19 pandemic, none of the four teams are guaranteed to be ready to start play by Sept. 26. If necessary, these games could be moved to Dec. 12.

Tiebreakers for Division Titles
With the possibility of teams playing a different amount of games, the Pac-12 released updated guidelines for selecting its division champions. In the case of a two-team tie, head-to-head matchup will be the deciding factor. However, in the case of unbalanced records, there’s an important caveat to picking a champion.

Changes to the Pac-12 Championship Game
The 2020 Pac-12 Championship Game was originally slated for Allegiant Stadium and booked for Dec. 18 or 19. However, that trip to Las Vegas will have to wait a year, as the conference title game will be held on campus in 2020. In the event of a tie, the Pac-12 released updated guidelines for determining the location of the game this fall.

One Less Bowl for 2020
The Pac-12 will have one less postseason matchup to fill in 2020, as the Redbox Bowl was canceled. As of early August, the conference has guaranteed spots in the following bowl games: Alamo, Las Vegas, Holiday, Sun, Los Angeles and Independence Bowl. The Rose Bowl is a CFB Playoff semifinal for 2020, so if the Pac-12 champion isn’t in the four-team playoff, it’s likely to find itself in one of the New Year’s Six matchups.

Every Team Misses One Opponent
With the shift to a 10-game conference-only slate, every team in the Pac-12 will miss just one team in 2020. The full list is below, with Arizona State-Washington and Stanford-Utah likely the biggest games not slated for this fall.
 
Team Opponent Missed
Arizona Washington State
Arizona State Washington
California Colorado
Colorado California
Oregon UCLA
Oregon State USC
Stanford Utah
UCLA Oregon
USC Oregon State
Utah Stanford
Washington Arizona State
Washington State Arizona

Pac-12 Players letter
A letter from Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott, dated Aug. 3, was sent to 12 football players leading the #WeAreUnited movement. The letter was obtained by The Associated Press and first reported by Sports Illustrated.
The players say they have been communicating with more than 400 of their peers throughout the Pac-12. The group released a lengthy list of demands Sunday and said if they are not addressed they will not practice or play. The group said it reached out to the Pac-12 on Sunday to request a meeting. In the letter, Scott said he was eager to discuss their concerns.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/pac-12-players-covid-19-statement-football-season

Big 10 Schedule

Michigan vs OSU played October 24th, Week 8
Should’ve kept Michigan VS OSU on last game of the season it shouldn’t be played in Oct. Not bright Big 10 whoever thought of that idea keep it Michigan VS OSU the last game of the season.

Wisconsin with the easiest schedule! Went from playing Ohio state and Penn state to not…….

Ohio State has an easy schedule. Go figure. Michigan has the toughest schedule

Clemson-Notre Dame set for Nov. 7th
Notre Dame gets Western Michigan for its non-ACC game on Sept. 19

Of course the ACC bends over for ND and lets them in the conference for 2020, then proceeds to gives them Clemson and Florida State at home.

I don’t know, looks like Boston College has a quintuple header Week 1

The 2020 PGA Championship
The 2020 PGA Championship tees off today at San Francisco’s TPC Harding Park, which is hosting its first-ever major.

It’s the first major in more than a year — and the first of seven majors in the next 12 months. Though there won’t be any fans in attendance, the excitement is palpable.

Big 10 Players Letter
“Big Ten united”: Following in the Pac-12’s footsteps, over 1,000 Big Ten football players outlined a series of health and safety protocols, without which they won’t play.

Predictions
Who will win the PGA Championship?
Tiger Woods

Poll Question
What is your favorite breath mint? #nationalfreshbreathday
Ice Breakers- 42.9%, Altoids- 28.6%, Tic Tac- 28.6%, Mentos- 0%

Ty: Tic Tac
https://twitter.com/thesportscast1/status/1291366135817023489

Transcript

Santiago Leon
Welcome to the sports cast August 6 2020. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe on all our channels Periscope, iTunes and if you’re an iTunes please leave a rating and review it will help us out tremendously. And of course, visit us on the sports cast dotnet the sports cast dotnet for the latest and greatest on the outs and the opinions. This episode is brought to you by instant Bible advocate download the instant Bible app on the iOS App Store. College Football the schedules are coming in of course sec saves the best for last and joining us all the way from Minnesota a person that social distances no matter what if there’s a pandemic or not tide Turner, welcome back to the sportscast.

Tyler Turner
Man. Let me know if you can hear me can switch something up.

Santiago Leon
Can you hear me? Yes. Great. It’s actually microphone level.

Tyler Turner
Oh, no. Are you?

Santiago Leon
I mean, I’m saying that it’s a good microphone level for a phone. I think it’s good. Like it feels like you’re like in the closet or something.

Tyler Turner
Cuz I’m not good. That’s not great.

Santiago Leon
No, it is good because oh, yeah, cuz you have no surround sound. Like you’re not like in the gym, which is kind of awkward, isn’t it?

Tyler Turner
Yeah, well, don’t lie. I usually don’t listen to my podcasts. Like I literally don’t.

Santiago Leon
I mean, I try not to.

Tyler Turner
I hate listen to my own voice. No, no, but the last couple that I did I listened to and it was like, Oh my gosh, it’s distracting. It was the one time was in a gym. for another time. It was I think the kids were in the car. And then another time I was like, my voice, my sound kept on going on, like, on and off like it was going, you could hear me and then you couldn’t hear me and you could hear me You couldn’t hear me. And so I’m like, man, I need to talk. I need to get that straight Santiago. And it didn’t seem to matter if I was using phone Skype zoom was always bad. Yeah, I listen to it. I mean, good, which I know that you

Santiago Leon
try to avoid to have your kids on because you know how, how happy they’re around you.

Tyler Turner
Yeah,

Santiago Leon
it is. Let’s get this show on the road. Breaking News, Micah Parsons has officially opting out of the college football season. He’s a Nittany Lion from Penn State linebacker. He’s gonna he’s gonna prepare for the 2021 draft Tyler. I mean, we’ve been seeing some few college players not as much as NFL, but how significant is this for Penn State?

Tyler Turner
Since I believe is the best defensive player in college football, I mean, there’s a good argument for it. I think the top 10 tech linebackers sometimes don’t go out of the pie. But he’s a terrific player. He was a top five player coming out of high school. You know, I do my team talent formula was worth six points because of the top 10 level player, which is my high point level in my formula. So actually by just him not longer being on the roster for the season 10 state dropped from the number 10 rated team to the number 12 just with one player so that it’s significant. It’s never good last now tempting schedule because they had the schedule come out yesterday. Their schedule is actually not that tough. It’s very it’s a very workable schedule for them. Very good very day at a pretty good drama, though. But you say today the poll came out. Coaches bullhead Penn State number seven, and I’m like without micro Part Number seven, but I really thought they probably should have fallen outside the top 10 from my opinion.

Santiago Leon
And we’ll definitely be talking about the big 10 schedule, which Ty has a huge opinion over it. Let’s start with the PAC 12 schedule. Pac 12 has decided to do a 10 game conference only schedule with one bite week per team and a week off on in mid December. The plan is to begin to December 26 and end on December 18 or 19th. The new schedule features rivals Arizona at Arizona State and USC at U CLA in the first week instead of the traditional and to the regular season. Tyler, what are your thoughts on like the schedule released and how how do the ducks look?

Tyler Turner
Oh for Oregon that well. Okay, for kegel, you know 10 game conference schedule for everyone for Oregon in general I actually think the schedule is a lot easier on you obviously you’re playing the game against Ohio State they were not going to be the favorite on they had the game against North Dakota State who they ought to be the saver but you know it’s a tricky game is the best team in the FCS over the last decade they’ve beaten several FCS close to multiple games one there’ll be not be the favorite. The other one they’re gonna be a favorite but it’s gonna be a tough first game. And instead they’re not playing and the very front end of the schedule. I don’t think any of those teams are really that good. I think Colorado maybe the worst team in the PAC 12. Washington State. You know, they have a new coach. They never have a ton of talent. They made an awful lot of very, very good game planning and gimmicky offensive game calling by Mike Leach good development to be able to be as good as they were but Overall, they’re not a very talented team, they have a new coach and they’re already having some conflict within that organization. You know, it just as the season has started, and then your third game your home games against Arizona State, who is the best team, they’re going to play in the first four games, but it’s at home and I think Arizona State is good in some parts. There seem Jane Daniels a good quarterback, this good young receivers and stuff. But I still think there’s a lot of holes in Arizona State team. So I don’t think it’s a great team. It’s an OK thing. And then Oregon State, Oregon states is never very good. They’re always the bottom end of the basketball. And there definitely it hasn’t played well against Oregon over the last several years. So the first four games just aren’t I don’t think those teams are great. So I think it’s going to be a good start. Now they have a little tougher stretch when they get to Washington and cow and us see, I think it’s washed Can you do a seat and cow I forgot the way Wait, that’s a little bit of a tough stretch. I think those are a couple of the better three of the better teams, the fact walls. I think UFC probably as the second we go to talent, I’d say they’re the second best roster to Oregon. And then to end the season and going off top my head Am I looking at either? So that’s in seven games, so the end of the season would be probably Arizona. Utah was the last

Santiago Leon
Utah like the last three games Arizona Wildcats, Stanford and then Utah oots.

Tyler Turner
Okay, well, I don’t think Arizona is good. But it is in Arizona and Oregon. They played for there, but I don’t think they’re very good. I think Arizona actually is between Colorado and Arizona for the worst team in the PAC 12. I would lean Arizona it’s close. And then Stanford who knows they have a terrible year last year but they still have some talent on but it’s that often not that’s gonna matter as much as your but I think Oregon Better than the last game Utah Utah might be. Because Utah lost a lot of pieces. But there’s still a good team they still year after year that won the last two Pac 12. title. They are very good at home. It’s at the end of the season, it’ll be in cold weather. That might be if I was to pick the one toughest game on Oregon schedule actually might be that game, especially if Oregon comes in nine to know. And they’re kind of looking ahead plots with the PAC 12. championship. That’s probably the toughest game. But yeah, we’ll see. And then another thing that has to be taken into consideration is are players going to opt out? I know Oregon was guides on that whole opt out united movement by the basketball

Santiago Leon
as we’ll talk about that soon

Tyler Turner
enough. Yeah, will they not play and there’s guys like the Nissan jump in Holland, who are like first round possible possible first round, I mean, today’s will follow Probably a top 10 pick. Jevon Hollins probably a first round early second round pick. Will they not play because they really necessarily, I guess don’t have to as much because they’re already in a good position when it comes to their draft positions. Oh, yeah, a lot, a lot, a lot of things to look for. But as a whole, I wouldn’t say it’s a crazy tough schedule for Oregon. And I think it got a little bit easier because they lost the very top of Ohio State game, and even a pretty tough North Dakota State game. With the shift to a 10 game conference, only slate every team in the PAC 12 will miss just one team in 2020. The full list

Santiago Leon
Oregon will not be playing UCLA this season. No, no, no, no, no. No. Which is either way, it’s not gonna I mean, you said les was not gonna be a force anyways. Yeah. And what are your thoughts over the the first game between Eric Arizona at Arizona State.

Tyler Turner
What about

Santiago Leon
like, this is a rival team rival game that is usually played in December, but now is playing in it played at that at the beginning of the season. Do you think this would be good?

Tyler Turner
Arizona state’s a little bit better. I mean, there’s nothing interesting about the game. I mean, other than their rivals? How about

Santiago Leon
USC at UCLA?

Tyler Turner
Um, I actually don’t think that game happens the first game of the season. I think California is one of the slowest moving states when it comes to opening up stuff. Correct. And they’re closing down stuff. I actually think that game will get moved. I actually think that game will might even be the last game like it always does. So as of right now, if it’s first game, I definitely think UFC is better. But I actually I’m gonna call it right here. I don’t say that game gets played September 26.

Santiago Leon
That’s correct. There is rumors that they might move that game to Towards December, of course, you know, California is well, like the PAC 12 in general is pretty, pretty tricky, but we could go in a whole podcast about that right, Tyler?

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I mean, just in general, they’re moving at a slower pace to opening up. Um, yeah, I mean, if anyone’s gonna end then they’re the ones that did this movement and asking this crazy letter that like the big 10 did the same latter. I thought the big 10 was way more specific, making sure that they had the guidelines in place to be able to you know, help them with the health protocols necessary during COVID I think that seemed perfectly fair, perfectly reasonable. On the back wall there’s a lot a lot more nonsensical asking for 50% revenue and really stuff like that. So

Santiago Leon
yeah, more demands can go more into detail the PAC 12 letter, the players. Well, in

Tyler Turner
general, it’s so funny because that part of the country, you know, they would make demands because that’s what other country is Just stick with it.

Santiago Leon
What’s the right word to it?

Tyler Turner
I think I don’t know what to say. It’s just the whole the whole attitude out there is I deserve this. I deserve that the West Coast is not it’s not my cup of tea when it comes to most people. I’m not going to generalize all groups people because everyone has good people, bad people, but just more of like an entitlement and it made sense there sounded kinda It was kind of left a bad taste reading there. Pac 12 united demands, whereas when the big 10 came, it came with a lot more specific, a lot more Midwestern style like hey, we’re concerned about our health. We want want to make sure that we have the proper protocol, proper testing in place so that we’re able to stay safe and you know, we’re able to complete the season in a good way. I thought it seems they’re they’re moving on the big 10 the big 10 united that was came across the tadpole came across his property in a very yeah respectful and responsible way. Roll appropriate and necessary matter. I thought the PAC 12 came across as well. We deserve this. And we need 50% revenue. And you need to save this for you need to take your in doubt as your entitlements and your endowments and pay for it and cancel

Santiago Leon
the season like, I

Tyler Turner
I deserve this because I go through this and then an athlete, what I found was the players on social media to bickering with fans. I just, it’s just, it’s just I honestly think it’s pathological out here in the West. So

Santiago Leon
what are

Tyler Turner
just just kind of the whole the whole or the, the nature of the people out here? So out here out there.

Santiago Leon
What has the comment because I heard there’s some comments from our crystal ball that he was telling his players Hey guys, don’t be wimps or something. And also the Washington State coach as well.

Tyler Turner
Mario Cristobal says that

Santiago Leon
he said something that kind of leaked out. It was like, you guys are here to play here. I don’t know if you remember that. Or maybe I’m just spewing out rumors.

Tyler Turner
Where did you see that

Santiago Leon
I sent to to our WhatsApp chat, but um, I guess you don’t remember. We can move on. Well,

Tyler Turner
no, no, no, no. When did he say that? It was

Santiago Leon
like, it was like after the letter came out, was it like last week? Or was it? No. The letter came out on like this past weekend. I think he spoke to his team on Monday or Tuesday, but

Tyler Turner
really, I was like, Can you find that?

Santiago Leon
I’ll find it to you and then I’ll repost it.

Tyler Turner
Yeah. I’m a member of a bunch of Oregon. message boards. seems odd that he said that because I think you’d have seen it on there. But

Santiago Leon
what have you I mean, have you heard anything of him saying anything this past week? You know, just in general?

Tyler Turner
No, no, no.

Santiago Leon
Okay. Oh, Oh, look for that. Okay.

Tyler Turner
They actually defect. They defended crystal ball saying that he cared for his players he was, you know, he like made sure that they’re, like protected and stuff. So they defended, which makes me think that Yeah, no I don’t think he said that. But who’s the other Oh, now Nick rolovich. Yeah did say something to the extent that if you’re part of that movement, totally different you have to get off the team, or you’re taking a little bit out of contact. But yeah, he did say something a little more. I don’t know if the word incriminating is the right word to use excessive. Yeah. Thanks. Well, yeah.

Santiago Leon
Wow, what a coach. I mean, we thought about that when he said that.

Tyler Turner
Well, I mean, once again, take a little bit out of context. Why was the guy Kp him? Like the guy was taping him? I thought that was a little bit scrupulous. Um, but, yeah, I mean, obviously you want to listen to your players. You want to make sure there’s an open dialogue. I don’t know. We’ll see what happens on it. I really don’t have that much opinion on that particular subject.

Santiago Leon
I think Okay, so,

Tyler Turner
okay. Okay. Breaking News, Gregory Rosso of Miami just opted out for the season. I heard he was your all American defensive end probably projected top 10. sec. As significant is that for Miami? I think the problem is, yeah, I think a lot of really high level guys are going to opt out. I think you’re gonna have a lot of the higher end draft level guys, they’re going to end up opting out, which is gonna be it’s gonna be a problem, you know, you’re losing really, really good players. So, yeah.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, I mean, like most of the players that opt in now and in college football are the ones that are going to be going into the draft next year.

Tyler Turner
Right. For the most part, I mean, there has been a couple guys that they just opted out and they’re going to come back when the virus is I guess is subsided or whatever. happen

Santiago Leon
whenever that will happen.

Tyler Turner
For the most part, so fun a tool for again would be a guy, he could opt out and you’ll still be a first round pick. So and Jevon Holland, I call him to be taking a little more of a risk. He’s considered possibly a first or second round pick. But he also is someone that’s not necessarily an elite athlete. So by not playing he could hurt himself. I think you’d be taking a little more risk today so could sit out and be perfectly fine. He’s gonna get drafted. So but Willie, I don’t know. We’ll see. Some guys will come back you know. You know, I was a couple out there Alabama, guys, you’d think you’d think guy like Mosley. And maybe Nadia Harris, you know, running back would sit out, but none haven’t.

Santiago Leon
yet. Interesting.

Tyler Turner
Well, yeah. I mean, a couple days, then we’ll see.

Santiago Leon
Once a deadline.

Tyler Turner
I don’t think there is any before probably most there isn’t any. You can Anytime interested, there’s no deadline.

Santiago Leon
Yeah. I mean, you would think Nick Saban will probably persuade those players not to opt out. You would think

Tyler Turner
it’s up to the player, man. I mean, if he thinks there’s a possible risk, and he’s done enough to to be a high level graphic, that’s his prerogative. I don’t know, necessarily if they need. I mean, yeah, obviously, it benefits them by saying the supplier is like, you know what, I don’t think it’s just a save, who knows, season goes on. I just want to move on with my career. And I just think that’s what’s going to happen.

Santiago Leon
Let’s look into Yeah, anything else we packed? Well, before we move on to the big 10

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I just back to like, I don’t think it comes out that certain coaches were trying to coax Claire’s out of it. And that’s not going to look great on the coaches, especially how people aren’t hyper alert and, you know, people being exploited. So yeah, if you see a player If people convincing people to come back when it might not be in their best benefit. Um, yeah, I think you’re gonna you’re gonna have some. You’re gonna have some issues.

Santiago Leon
doesn’t look good. It’ll probably look bad in the tabloids. Yep. Interesting. Oh, what

Tyler Turner
did you hear? Oh, sorry. I’m looking at my phone is it did you hear about Jim Harbaugh? I didn’t hear much about it. Do you know anything about the Jim Harbaugh and Ryan day feud?

Santiago Leon
No, I heard that. The Jim Harbaugh took a pay cut. That’s all I’ve heard so far.

Tyler Turner
Okay, well, we should. But today on the Xoom call.

Santiago Leon
That’s funny. Interesting anyways, oh, look that up. I will. I will maybe during the show, which we’re getting to the big 10. Their schedule also came out. One thing that I saw significant is that Michigan versus Ohio State will be playing on October 24. Instead, instead of playing in the last week of the season, it was last week too. Quickly or is it in? Okay, October 24? How significant is that for you?

Tyler Turner
Um, you know, once again, every schedule is just, they’re just, they’re just rearranging arranging things as they can arrange them and putting them where they need to be put off. This season is just like Who knows? Which

Santiago Leon
doesn’t ask you for me. It’s like an asterick season to me. For me, it feels like an asterick it’s just not all there. Tyler just is not all there.

Tyler Turner
You know what everyone keeps saying that but the end of the day if you win a national title, title,

Santiago Leon
that’s true.

Tyler Turner
Well, people keep on saying it’s an abstract you know, count it. If you win the national title, it will always say in 2021 is when the title will be will be awarded the 2021 it will always say the same national champion. So your goal is to win national titles at the end of the day. If they finish the season, do the college football playoffs. Have a champion, there’s gonna be a champion. So no matter if you win it on this crazy weird half done season with conference only and all these cancels that capitalization. If you win the national title, you win the national title. So

Santiago Leon
I do agree with Tyler no matter what it’s like in sports. If it’s a low scoring game, it’s a win. It’s a win. That’s what it is. If it’s up to one win, it’s a win. That’s what matters most and you will not like I said, you’ll get the same trophy from last year.

Tyler Turner
Yep,

Santiago Leon
nothing different

Tyler Turner
than as a champion.

Santiago Leon
There’ll be less bowl games this year. Did you hear about that?

Tyler Turner
Oh, yeah. I have a feeling there was. There will be

Santiago Leon
Yeah. Anyways, another analysis from the big 10 schedule Wisconsin. People say has the easiest schedule. They went from playing Ohio State and Penn State tonight.

Tyler Turner
Yep, I saw and then I think they added Rutgers. There. their schedules really, really filled out For them to be nine and one so or attended Oh, well, I got up to Wisconsin.

Santiago Leon
And they also say, um, Ohio State has an easy schedule and Michigan has the toughest go.

Tyler Turner
And Penn State, Penn State and Ohio State I don’t think their schedules are very tough. Wisconsin, Tennessee and Ohio State so I think I’ll have to be like if I was gonna have to pick a college football player off the top of my head and obviously the sad thing is, is the SEC has not been released yet. But even when I saw that, um, Alabama schedule the schedule, Alabama’s playing Alabama schedule this week.

Santiago Leon
No, no, I mean, like he was a leak leak schedule, which all week last week. I’m like, no, yes. Not only that second half of the schedule is is brutal, but it is sec. I mean, I would expect something tough like that.

Tyler Turner
No, but even like I go back and look so the top 25 is released by the coaches today. Alabama would play Georgia who’s number four LSU is number five, Florida who’s number seven? I think a&m I thought my head was number 13 at Auburn was number 11. That’s five top 15 teams including three top 10 team. That’s a tough schedule.

Santiago Leon
That’s what you expect from the SEC is that I mean yeah.

Tyler Turner
So when I look at that, and I look at all Florida playing Georgia and Georgia playing Alabama and Alabama, Florida, and you know even throw in a Tennessee’s a borderline top 25 team, and then you throw in Texas a&m and Auburn when you look at those teams playing each other. Could the SEC see So okay, we have Ohio State cakewalk schedule. They just say they go to Clemson

Santiago Leon
Notre Dame playing in November

Tyler Turner
and North Carolina also. Actually, they play the 123 in the top, top 45 teams during the season, they’re gonna probably play another one in the championship. clemson would have earned a little more of 11 and a record this year or 12. And on and they play a lot of games. So let’s just say for the hypothetical Clemson’s undefeated, and then you got Ohio State’s undefeated. Let’s say Oklahoma goes through and undefeated in the big 12. And then you have Oregon undefeated, does the SEC get left out? Because I could totally see a one loss being the champion there and every team has been one loss. It’s all the other conferences end up with undefeated teams. Does SEC is this is how you got is this the way you get the SEC out of the playoffs is by having a COVID shortened season and that’s conference only where all these really good sec and top sec teams all have to play each other and they kind of eat each other. Whereas other conferences like Oregon plays to top 25 teams, Ohio State and a place to top 25 teams and You know Clemson plays a couple in Oklahoma plays a couple but not the level five five top 15 team I don’t know

Santiago Leon
man i mean i think the waiting for this it’s gonna be quite different this year I don’t think anyone will come out like undefeated from the SEC that’s for sure at best one loss

Tyler Turner
from the SEC yeah when I looked at that schedule I’m like that i i don’t think Alabama would be undefeated I think you’d lose one game

Santiago Leon
what Okay, so your prediction is one last year because I mean, I could see him losing two or three

Tyler Turner
I saw your great team their second most talented roster on paper. Um, I you know, I I their quarterbacks a little bit up and up in large but he’s still at Bryce down the number one rated quarterback in the country prep prospect and then Matt Jones is a very, very solid quarterback. So you know, I still would lean to them, only losing one game, but yeah, I mean, where are they playing Georgia

Santiago Leon
doesn’t really matter. Florida does really matter where they play well.

Tyler Turner
Well, okay, well fans keep updated, does it? Yeah. Okay. First of all, I don’t think there’s I think there’s gonna be some fans. I think there’s they’re gonna be we’re gonna figure out a way to get some fans in November. I just feel it maybe. Yeah, I mean, we’re gonna be like a little bit. And another way came still has to travel. The way team is still still playing the play. So that was our play every week, every day and every week. There’s also travel and playing and whatnot used to and there could be still a fan advantage. There also could be like the zoom or fake fans and the fake noise and they could give back and give a slight advantage to the home team. So I could see it’s I still they get mad A little bit. Not not like you normally dogs, I still think we’re ignoring like 7525 dance for the home team. I put it more like the 6065 advantage but I still give him the dance.

Santiago Leon
The only place that really matters if you’re playing at a tough weather area or at a high a high altitude like Colorado, that’s the only thing I see.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I mean, actually, so it’s mainly saying that like a place like Utah, yeah, high altitude with has pretty bad weather at times. Yeah. Like, that’s why I think that’s the toughest game for again, because of Oregon. At the end of the season goes into like a bad weather Stadium, the high altitude, you know, and it’s still at Utah. I think it’s a tough game,

Santiago Leon
but going to the big house with no one there in October. Not much.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I mean, a lot less. Yeah. I mean, when you’re pumping into it.

Santiago Leon
No one’s gonna Well, I mean, I’m not sure college football. If they throw things to players. I don’t know. I mean, I seen in soccer, are a lot but no throwing bottles or you know, point lasers.

Tyler Turner
That’s whatever advantage whatever advantage you can get. Right,

Santiago Leon
exactly. Okay, let’s go on to the ACC. The only big matchup that I saw there was Notre Dame versus Clemson which will be November 7. That should be a good matchup that is going to be whoever wins that it’s going to be the best of the ACC Don’t you think?

Tyler Turner
Yeah, homie, it’s a good like once again, I think that they have a really good team. Notre Dame I think they’re, you know, they have top 10 talent. I think they have a team well good enough in place. And one of the better coaches in college football they have a two year starter at quarterback. They have experience on both of these offensive and defensive line. Italian players Moffat’s the defensive line. I like yeah I like the Notre Dame team. I think they are a team that could be Yeah, it could be Clemson they could be close I think it’s a the game that Notre Dame too Right. Where’s the schedule not finalized yet?

Santiago Leon
I do not know. Wait, hold on hold on.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, no, I don’t know if it’s final. I don’t know if it’s finalized yet. But yeah, I do believe that they could, they could be them.

Santiago Leon
And who is who is the third best team in the ACC you think

Tyler Turner
it’s between North Carolina and Miami. Now’s not a great loss right now seeing that Gregory Russo. He was you know all American level player top 10 level pass rusher that’s a bad loss for Miami on the defensive line. I’m gonna lean North Carolina because I like Sam howl. I like Dr. King from Miami. I just think how probably a little more consistent quarterback kings a very good athlete, but I don’t think he’s quite The consistent player like of a howl in North Carolina, and

Santiago Leon
our alma mater, Liberty University, we’ll be playing three ACC teams this year.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I like the ACC big fan of the PAC 12 three best in ACC I’ll go Clemson Notre Dame and and then oops and if can gap and then I’ll go North Carolina. Big 10. I will go. Ohio State. Penn State and I’m gonna go Michigan, Wisconsin. I would say the tie was tied between Michigan Wisconsin and I think Penn State Wisconsin and Michigan are all pretty close. Three a three B gap. Yeah, I could see three a three B three c Honestly, I think they’re, I think the second best team is between those three. Well, number one is unquestionably Ohio State and then the PAC 12, Oregon one USC two and three. It’s close between Utah, Arizona State Water Washington and Cao

Santiago Leon
tiebreaker with a tiebreaker Tyler,

Tyler Turner
ah, okay, well, the Washington because I think Washington has more talent. I’ll go Washington because I think that they just have more, but I know don’t think I know that more baseline talent than the other ones. So I’ll go Washington three, but there’s question mark of a new coach, a new offensive coordinator, a new quarterback. So there, I think it’s definitely Oregon first USC second, and I think everyone else I could see it as long as USC keeps their crap together. I would not be shocked if the only loss for Oregon or USC is when they play each other. And then they play each other again in the PAC 12 championship. So I could see them had been, I think Oregon wins because it’s in Oregon. I think Oregon’s a little better, though, but I think I could see USC being nine and one.

Santiago Leon
They’re having Ty Turner. Go ahead.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I think that I think they’re a little more talented than the rest of the team. That makes it a little better.

Santiago Leon
And we have about almost two months to discuss the predictions because college football season is gonna start a little bit like a month later, September 26. What are the big ones? Whoa,

Tyler Turner
hold on, hold on a big call starting August 29 and the big 10 starting September 5.

Santiago Leon
Yeah. Yep. My August. Wow, that’s weird. Everyone starting at different times.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, no. Okay. So the FCC, right, FCC and Pac 12. It is almost two months, but actually for the big 12 it’s 23 days. And for the big 10 It’s a month

Santiago Leon
that’s a month gap. Is there a advantage for you know, one or the other?

Tyler Turner
I thought I thought about it. Okay, what I like about the big 12 and the big 10 is the fact that if there is a delay, they gave themselves a lot of room. You know, I’m saying he did which is smart starting, which is smart. Um, but if there isn’t there, there’s a they have a long wrap between their last game end of the season and the college football playoff, where the PAC 12 and sec don’t. Now, you could say two different things, you get rest because they can rest up and get players healed. But you also can get slapped. Yeah. All I remember last year, Ohio State had a pretty big gap, they look really flat when they played against Clemson. The so

Santiago Leon
the team would look like the last rest will have momentum carried over.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, they could be hot and you know, they don’t have to sit very long and just keep on going. So I know this is interesting. I could this is

Santiago Leon
wish I wish NCAA say hey, it’s up to the conferences and the teams that’s what the President said like Emmert was really clear about that. I guess he’s not gonna make everyone start at the very same time so

Tyler Turner
liberally pushing it towards he’s making the he’s making the schools make the decisions, because He does not want to come off making decisions for them. So yeah,

Santiago Leon
that’s a smart move him. I think he was going back and forth with that he was saying at first well colleges, you know, shouldn’t play sports if there’s no students, and then I guess he kind of stray away from that a little bit.

Tyler Turner
Well, we’ll see. We’ll see how it all comes. You’re gonna ask me today Do I think this is gonna happen? I’m gonna say, I have no idea.

Santiago Leon
I’m doubtful.

Tyler Turner
I’m 5050, bro. Yeah, there’s a part of me and I could see one conference doing it and another one not so.

Santiago Leon
But I do see the SEC, no matter what doing it.

Tyler Turner
You’re gonna keep on saying that the SEC has actually been one of the more cautious people keep up the SEC no matter what. That they’re going to be doing it. You know what? They’re been pretty cautious. I’d say they’ve been more cautious than ACC or the big 12 in big time.

Santiago Leon
It’s probably because they have like most of the spikes going on lately.

Tyler Turner
Everyone knows that. Getting the most cautious they get no cold again. They’ll figure out a way to

Santiago Leon
not be in shelter in place for two years Probably. Probably

Tyler Turner
whatever it takes for government takeover.

Santiago Leon
Anyways, Tyler give us a quick a quick update on the talent pool your talent formula and what’s going on with the recruitment lately.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, yeah so I’m gonna I just did an update like a week ago but there’s gonna be updates because it’s going to change because of like I said the opt out. So obviously if people opt out to this point, coins Oh, hold on one second. times Turner is our my mom calling. My wife calling me

Santiago Leon
anyway. So it was important women in your life, aren’t they? Yeah. But who’s number one? I’m kidding.

Tyler Turner
Oh, my luck, okay. So obviously seems like I said Penn State opted out the last six points. So every team that’s having like an off of like serious player, it’s going to physically change their baseline talent. Um, I there’s going to be some changes because players opted out there’s going to be more.

Santiago Leon
And with no deadline, this can move on really quick.

Tyler Turner
And if you’ve seen my formula and you see the baseline talent you have, you have a pretty big significant tiers. You have tier one, which I just think Ohio States, Georgia, Alabama, and even Clemson or just on a whole nother level. And then you and then LSU, but is is is closed out there. But there, there’s still a little lawn for five stars. They’re rebuilding on a little bit and they also only have 73 guys on scholarship which is 12 under which is actually an enormous amount of being underneath the scholars. Whip limit, but the reason why that happened is they had nine early draft entries. And then they had three guys transfer. So they lost 12 undergraduates either approach or to transfer. So that obviously took a big hit in their overall scholarship numbers. So 85 the limit that you can have and there are 12 underneath that, which is not ideal because if some injuries happen, they just don’t have the, the depth, guys, they’re the fear so I would put them in tier two. And then really when you go, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Texas a&m, Notre Dame, USC, Penn State, Oregon, Auburn, Tennessee, Michigan, I don’t see a lot of difference. Those are my teams, six to 16 and there’s like a 20 point difference. 25 point difference between six and 16. And but when you really break down like the rosters, they all had pretty close in the number of blue chip. On the rosters pretty close to the number of five stars on the rosters pretty close to the number of top 100 players in the rosters. So let’s say you know, hypothetically a team like Penn State they already lost. Michael Parsons say they have another couple guys that out. They could have gone from having the 10th most out roster to the number 1314 more talent roster by just lose like two guys. That’s how close it is in that range. You have a team like Oklahoma, who’s already lost the five star to season ended ACL surgery, they have another former top 10 player five star that is going to miss the first part of the season because he had a neat Thursday injury. They have another former top 100 player, that’s going to miss the first six games due to suspension. So right there, you’re taking those guys off the roster and they’re dropping down a little bit in their overall talent. So it’s pretty close in that tier to tier one you those top those top four teams of Alabama, Georgia, Clemson and Ohio State. There’s the nifty Way more talented than the rest of college football. There’s a gap

Santiago Leon
going on.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, yeah, it’s pretty good.

Santiago Leon
Anyways, I give us a recruitment update. I know that Alabama is hot in the trail when it comes to recruitment for the class of 2021. Give us an update on that.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, Alabama’s rockin it out of Ohio State number one class in the country for a while they’re having an amazing class Clemson’s. Number three, my ducks are for Oregon’s doing really well, but I think Oregon is going to get the commitment of a couple other top 100 guys here in the next couple months. And they’re also in the top two or three have a couple of five stars. I could actually see Oregon if they’re able to have a good season able to you know, go out there win another Pac 12 title. I think Oregon’s able to finish with a top five class I really think which would put them in almost you know they’d be in that borderline first tier of talent which would be amazing. Obviously a fan i’d love that. Um, who else is having a good class I think Miami last like a mission. Good Miami vibe is very class couple five star commands. They’re also leading in the crystal ball for another one. It’s cool, man, he had a good class. Yeah,

Santiago Leon
there you have it.

Tyler Turner
The only thing is you have to worry about it. If they go out and have a bad, he’s in debt to hurt their momentum. They have to be committed. They need to go out and have a good season because if you go down and have that fixed and 16 that really could hurt some of the positive momentum on the trail.

Santiago Leon
That’s recruitment implications. Yeah, players want to see success on their end of course, and hopefully, you know, choose Miami. I know that there’s one player that flip from Florida to to Miami. I think it happened today.

Tyler Turner
Oh, yeah. Yep, I saw that.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, so we’ll definitely keep you guys up to date. Tyler is on top of the recruiting game. He knows about the brockmeyer brothers going to Alabama.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, we’re good players. Alabama, once again, is doing really well. They do good every year. It’s kind of redundant. They’re going to end up with a top five top three class every single year. Tell Nick Saban decides to hang it up.

Santiago Leon
Which we don’t know when the end of site that will be of course according to, to, to Justin, he’s Alabama coach eternally all the way to the end of the, to the end of the world which we will know when that will be. That’s it.

Tyler Turner
That’s an easy that’s an easy team to be a life time fan of, you know, very more national title than any other school in the history of college football. They’ve won five in the last 11 years. So it’s an easy game to be a fan of.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, you know, it’s interesting, because I’ve been interviewing like these Alabama players this past month. Yeah. past month. And, you know, it’s pretty much that that era, like at the end of 2000s, or in like the 2000s before Nick Saban was like, kind of like the dip year for them. So

Tyler Turner
that was like the worst that they were like,

Santiago Leon
yeah, with Mike Shula. It’s interesting.

Tyler Turner
Yep. Right before right before saving got there. And I think that’s Riley graduated, right?

Santiago Leon
Yeah, I think like oh two ish. I think you graduate in two or four ish. I don’t know

Tyler Turner
if you didn’t go there when they’re very good.

Santiago Leon
No, he was there during like the bad times and downtimes the reconstruction years.

Tyler Turner
Right? Yeah, they reconstructed All right.

Santiago Leon
PJ Chan championship begins today in San Francisco. Tiger Woods is in it but I hear that Brooks koepka is the favorite Tyler What are your thoughts and what’s gonna happen?

Tyler Turner
You know, I have not been following golf well, because card info ladies parts because everything’s gone. But yeah, Cutco is one of the favorites and oh, Justin. Tom is playing really well. Yeah, but just tiger. It’s all about tiger. It’s a whole lot of follow. And he’s playing decent today. He’s 200 after 15. So hopefully he can continue just have a solid like, I’d like to see him be like 200 a day maybe like four or 500 tomorrow. And then really give them yourself a chance. Going into the weekend. It’s it’s pretty tough, tough golf course. Obviously any of the majors are. So just hang in there. Be consistent. Don’t do anything too much. But you know, hit your shots.

Santiago Leon
And of course Bryson he says the last thing did shambu Cannonball. He’s also one of the favorites. He’s a. He’s great lately, so we’ll see how things go. The championships. Yeah. should conclude on Sunday and we’ll have Tyler predict what’s going to happen. And Rafael Nadal has opted out of the US Open.

Tyler Turner
He did. I don’t know why. But

Santiago Leon
I mean, tennis is tennis and golf is is probably one of the most social distance sports.

Tyler Turner
I mean, you don’t really need to be close to anyone at all. So yeah, same

Santiago Leon
for NASCAR. But anyways, it’s choice, you know, predictions who will win the the PGA Championship Tiger

Tyler Turner
I don’t know if he’s gonna win it. I’m kind of I’m kind of kidding

Santiago Leon
a lot more saying not that he’s not gonna win.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I’d actually lean towards he’s probably not going to because he’s not played very much this year. But he’s not pulled out today. He’s playing pretty good he’s definitely hitting itself in his short games good is a little bit a little rocky Optiva short game since the pretty solid and it’s kind of a weird course it’s not a super long course. The weather’s not great

Santiago Leon
yet like they’re always sweaters a little bit cooler or something.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, Pete but if he plays good in that short game, you know he can give himself a chance. So real quick.

Santiago Leon
Tyler Turner Amanda that watches golf but does not play golf. Question of the day what is your favorite breath mint. choices are icebreaker altoids Tic Tac or Mentos.

Tyler Turner
Do very good.

Santiago Leon
icebreakers altoids. Tic Tac or Mentos.

Tyler Turner
Tic Tac.

Santiago Leon
Tic Tac is second place Taiwan altoids

Tyler Turner
tech

Santiago Leon
icebreakers it’s winning the poll at 42% out toys and Tic Tac are tied at 28% Mentos is zero

Tyler Turner
I’m a big metal fan. I would yeah I do like ice breakers to

Santiago Leon
ice breakers I was like like the ones are chewable and they they like really freeze your mouth a little bit you could go to our Twitter account and vote. You got a couple hours you got till tomorrow till eight in the morning to vote What is your favorite breath mint and see what which is your favorite and what is the best sports guys pretty accurate account of what is the nation all for or actually is global because anyone could vote outside of the states so definitely that anyways Ty Turner what is the best way to reach you to avoid left wing politics.

No, yeah, exactly. Here at the sports guys, I want to make an announcement. We don’t shove left wing politics on this show or on our Twitter account so you’re safe with us. We’re not ESPN. They’re not even the sport channel. Yeah, more.

Tyler Turner
Hey, ESPN. Did they have their stick going on right now, man?

Santiago Leon
I have no idea. I haven’t watched

Tyler Turner
it yet. You’re not missing anything. You swear that there are a political network?

Santiago Leon
woke center.

Tyler Turner
There you go bro.

Santiago Leon
Anyways, you can reach us at the sports cast dotnet Ty Turner as at Turner cast at the sports cast dotnet and the sports cast one tomorrow. We’ll be talking a little bit more college football. We got a new guests coming in and he’ll be auditioning, so we’ll see how that goes. And Ty Turner. Great show.

Tyler Turner
All right. Thanks, man. I’m going

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