While Justin Herbert had a season low for passing yards in his final game at Autzen Stadium, Oregon’s senior quarterback didn’t seem all that disappointed.
“The best part? The game’s not decided on my individual performance. It’s who scores the most points, and we did that today,” Herbert said after throwing for 174 yards and a touchdown in No. 14 Oregon’s 24-10 victory over Oregon State on Saturday in the 123rd Civil War.
Passing
Justin Herbert- 174 yards, 1 TD
Rushing
Travis Dye- 91 yards
Cyrus Habibi-Likio – 29 yards 1 TD
Receiving
Johnny Johnson III – 39 yds and 1 TD
Kick Return
Mikael Wright 121 yards 1 td
ORE-Utah Pac-12 Championship Preview
The Oregon Ducks will be the underdog in the Pac-12 Championship game against Utah this coming week. The first lines were released in Las Vegas sportsbooks on Sunday morning with Utah a 4.5-point favorite over the Oregon Ducks at CG Technology who operates a number of major Las Vegas sportsbooks.
Oregon is coming off a 24-10 win in the Civil War against Oregon State and could clinch their first Rose Bowl bid since the 2014 season when Oregon played in the first College Football Playoff.
Utah is looking to keep their College Football Playoff hopes alive a convincing win over Oregon to show the committee that the Utes are one of the top four teams in the country. If Utah wins, they’ll be guaranteed at least the Rose Bowl but are looking for more.
Although not a point spread, ESPN’s Football Power Index currently gives the Ducks a 51% win probability based on their computer projections.
Utah Head coach Kyle Whittingham’s team is looking to become the second Pac-12 South team to win the title clash and, in the process, impress enough members of the selection committee to earn the No. 4 seed in the final playoff rankings.
Santiago Leon
Welcome to the sports cast December to our first podcast of December. If you haven’t yet please subscribe and all our channels YouTube Periscope, iTunes and if you’re in iTunes, please leave a rating and a review it will help us out tremendously. And visit us on the sports cast.net the sports cast that net This episode is brought to you by Insta Bible. Download the instant Bible app on your iPhone. Share a verse on a pitcher to the world especially on Instagram. Well, Justin Herbert had a season low for passing yards and his father. I know game at Austin Stadium, Oregon senior quarterback didn’t seem all that disappointed. The best part the game’s not decided on my individual performance. Herbert says it’s who scores the most points and we did that today. Herbert threw 474 yards and a touchdown and Oregon’s win over Oregon State 24 to 10. They call it that Civil War. And joining us a person that does not gain a pound over Thanksgiving, the one and only Ty Turner Welcome to
Tyler Turner
welcome back to the sports cast. Oh good.
Santiago Leon
So Ty obviously not a good way a good game two weeks ago against Arizona state but they came back against Oregon State won it 24 to 10 as expected what were your thoughts over the game?
Tyler Turner
Well for one
article or whatever that I got
Santiago Leon
a quote from ESPN, he said that he said the best part of the game is not decided on my individuals performance. It’s who scores the most points and we did that today. Oh,
Tyler Turner
shut the hell off forever.
Like, like honestly, like the political pot. Like my goodness, you’re supposed to be came back supposedly To try to lead your team to a national title and a big set tackle championship. You’re the reason they lost Arizona state because you just literally played a horrible game. You came back the next week you think on your last game ever announced in stadium and you thought you’d be really dialed in Nope. Once again throwing balls into the ground, throwing balls way out in front of receivers, overthrow and wide open receivers in the end zone. Like honestly quit quit the coach speech and just go out there and win then win because you are the man win because you are the projected first quarterback when because you are supposed to be the best player in the PAC 12 win. Because of that stead Don’t be the reason why possibly the game wasn’t as cool as it was. If you would have completed the pass for wide open jajuan Johnson perfectly schemes by the coaches down if you would have been up by 21 points in the third quarter. If you would have completed a couple more of those passes to wide open receivers like a wide open just have godel wide open Johnny Johnson instead of throwing the ball in the frickin ground. Maybe You would not have been maybe would not have been a seven point game in the fourth quarter with Oregon State having the ball and having a chance to tie the game like honestly just shut up like it we’re going to be this like life and unassuming you know it kind of quiet and supposedly leading by example instead of like his he’s not very vocal if you’re going to be that way you better be that guy. You better not be the guy that becomes this unassuming person when the last two games you’ve really been nothing but a below average power five quarterbacks let alone a future first round draft pick like you were heralded coming into the season.
And there you have it type deal. I
I didn’t I didn’t hear that quote by him. But like, honestly, shut up. No one wants to hear any more from you, Herbert. Like, like, like put up or shut up.
Santiago Leon
You’re still bitter over Mr. Joe,
Tyler Turner
anyway. Well, no, no, not bitter over him. It’s just like he is under suit. Kind of like quiet unassuming to himself, like mannerisms was fine when he was everything that was fortunately he projected as his future first round pick a Heisman Trophy candidate, but after three four years that time being the reason why they’ve lost the game reason why their offense have been inconsistent reason why they’ve not been able to put off put away so I talked about putting away lesser opponents opponents that are severely outmanned. It’s a much of the reason is because of inconsistent play and sometimes overall lack of leadership by Herbert and able to take over a game and make basic passes. If a guy is open, you hit him with the ball. You have let you have started 30 some games a lot of people are getting on the offensive coordinator some people are getting on Mario Cristobal. I’ve heard people say to have good receivers. I don’t know Who could coach someone to hit a guy who was wide open the end zone with no one around him with an easy dump pass? Like, how is that anyone’s fault but Justin Herbert
air Malin the ball in and stand,
go back to the Auburn game. You’re the Hail Mary from the opponent from the opponent’s 35 yard line and you throw it through the end zone. Did the coaches teach you how to do that? It just gets the point where I’m sorry, I’m just no it’s okay. This is good. I just pumped up and hearing that garbage from Harvard. It’s like get over it, bro. Like, like honestly, I don’t want to hear anything from you. What I want to see is you taking over the PAC 12 championship game against the top five team against the top five defense and the reason why Oregon wins because of you Mr. First round quarterback. Like cool you came back for your senior year you’re that cool little store the kid grew up next to Austin stadium. I think you’re a big height job. How much do it
Santiago Leon
how much of this stock has gone down? Is he still first rounder or?
Tyler Turner
Oh, well, yeah, probably Yeah. Probably is because the thing is is they go off of they go off a lot of what the projected vegetables and individually and individually that’s to 14 individually that has an elite arm and it’s a quarterback hungry league. Also, you know, to not only got hurt but I also don’t think that obviously Matt Jones put a pretty good numbers didn’t meet last couple. Yeah, he did they
look better than her. It wasn’t like
it won’t go. Well well. That being said Oregon doesn’t have the weapons Bama had. Yeah, that’s not necessarily a fair comparison. Like Herbert probably would put up pretty good. Not that was not my argument was that Joseph Herbert, my argument was more that probably would make people look a little more closely at to Olga. Lola, does he really have a lead arm? Or is it an elite receivers that make it look that good? Does he? Is it really that elite progression? Or is it his elite wide receivers that are making them look good because Matt Jones, I didn’t see a lot of games. It’s all the highlights. And he looks pretty damn good. And when
Santiago Leon
he has weapons
Tyler Turner
Yeah, he’s the best wide receiver core in college football, maybe in horrible history. I mean, two of those guys can be first round draft picks and Jared tailwater will be a first round draft pick next year. So and Nadia Harris is going to probably be a for a second round draft pick. So I don’t know I did more about it will probably make people question to have because of it. injuries and also with the more the scheme and the weapons that he wants to do you got Jacob, he said who has been very inconsistent? Is that because of his system or that because he’s just a consistent and then you got Justin Herbert who was just Justin Herbert, which is the most inconsistent quarterback in college football. And then I’d say the only probably the safest bet is probably Joe Berle but you have to wonder Joe perot didn’t win the job at Ohio State. Joe burrow didn’t look very good his junior year at LSU. Is that more Joe Brady than Joe Bro, I would say this year’s quarterback class is a little bit of a question mark based upon a few things. That being said, I think Justin erver because he is 66 because he is to 40 because he has a good athletes because he has a very good arm because he does have experience because he did have a solid Record he did at times lead his team to victory I guess against Washington Washington State debatable, but he they did. He was the quarterback on the game when he drives if he is able to lead them to the PAC 12 title if he’s able to lead them to a road called victory. Yeah, he’s probably gonna win. raid I ran at the beginning remains the same. I don’t want to hear individual he didn’t play good against Oregon State. He played terrible get Arizona state. And you would really think that after that game, playing at home his last game ever at home and his whole career that he would have come out inspired, ready to really say I want to get that bad game on the ticket on my back. And I’m going to lay a weapon on my in state rival he did. He didn’t play well. I know you see the game against Oregon State. Justin Herbert didn’t play well. The defense played well. cannon excellent return on Oregon was able to run the ball pretty well and they were able to carry bill average like six seven yards per carry on the ground. But Justin Herbert was so inaccurate in the passing game that it stunted drives. He missed a wide open jajuan Johnson for a touchdown, that would have put them ahead by three scores. Yeah, it was not it was another very, I would say below average performance by Herbert. two games in a row and that’s mixed in with a bad second half against Auburn, bad first half against cow bad first half against Washington a bad first half gets Washington State. There’s too many bad have bad games by Herbert. I mean, when you can mix all of that has bad games into like four or five bad games and like five or six good games, that’s too much bad for guided to being a four year starter.
Santiago Leon
So acceptable,
and some will say he should have went into the draft last year.
Tyler Turner
No, no. No, I can’t be it. Derek Yeah, you dead? Yeah. Actually I yes. And that is that that is the, the what’s the word I’m looking for? That is fear. That is a risk. There I go there that is a risk of giving it one more year of tape to evaluators. You could lose money, he might lose money. I think last year he would have been drafted number five pick in the draft by the New York Giants. I think he would have been Daniel Jones. But he didn’t. And he came back here. I don’t think he goes top 10 I do somehow see him going in the first round. I think a team is going to say hey, this guy has a lot of talent is measurables. I think we can develop them. I could see him going to New Orleans. I could see him going to the way England I could see him going to You ready? You know I know some names some teams with quarterbacks but what’s what’s a common denominator between New Orleans and New England quarterback? elite? What did you What did Drew Brees and Tom Brady have in common? Really?
No
Why could they maybe why would they possibly be drafted a quarterback in the first round?
Santiago Leon
Because those two are going to head out sooner than later.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tom Brady is almost 43 athletes, and Drew Brees is 41. So they’re old, but I don’t know if they’re going to be gone this year. Especially breeze rainy.
He might be going sooner or later.
Santiago Leon
But he might go to the chargers.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, I could. Or I II could be done. He could be done. There’s another one. The Chargers is our team that could draft I could see the Chargers doing wonders are saying graphene, Herbert city him a year or two behind Brady, Greece or rivers and then trying to start up and letting him develop behind, you know, elite quarterback and learn under him for a year to it or maybe even maybe a Tampa Bay. It’s definitely the jamis Wednesday, maybe. And so the Bruce Arians is a great quarterback coach. That could be a team that takes over. I don’t see a team that wants someone to come in and help right away pagina like Cincinnati would take for Oh, I think Miami would take for all. The only thing is is who is the second quarterback in the draft? If it’s not Herbert, who is it? You said? He’s in
Santiago Leon
addition, I’m looking at Jacob Eason, of course. But then the question is Tua could enter this draft. I mean, he hasn’t said anything but he could still
Tyler Turner
credits to
Santiago Leon
couldn’t enter.
Well, there’s talk about him returning free senior.
Well, I’m here from Justin but me that’s not good source, I guess. No,
Tyler Turner
no, there’s not though I, I know that was mentioned a couple times by also. Several people talk on it now. It’d be too risky for him to be risking so much you might not even get you wouldn’t get drafted like the fifth round. If he comes out this year. He probably goes late in the first round. If he risked going back for another year, he could really go.
Santiago Leon
So you’re saying he should go out this season this season? He’s
Tyler Turner
What you say?
Santiago Leon
So you’re saying he should just go to the draft. Don’t you know don’t waste your
Tyler Turner
Yeah, not only am I saying it, but I’ve seen guy said out there that I’ve saved rosters on college football and the NFL said I’ve heard most people say that to go yeah so I’m actually counting to like Judy to is going to be the starting quarterback coming off of an added thing
Santiago Leon
so maybe like a best mid first round.
Tyler Turner
I mean look at that you did to having a serious injury so you need to look
Santiago Leon
at best but
it depends on I mean, this hip here let me be ready till next year to like the fall. I
Tyler Turner
know. I know. It might not be ready, but why would he go back?
Santiago Leon
That’s right. It makes no sense coming in for like, like the second half of the season because I think that’s his projection. Come back next.
Tyler Turner
I’ve been hearing Yeah, what if you get it What if he got tackled again and he got hurt again?
Santiago Leon
Yeah, not worth the risk.
Unknown Speaker
You’re right. He won’t go in and then next year. rap is like Trevor Lawrence. Justin do i mean better quarterback guys that I think would all be it feels him and Lawrence would be drafted but anyone in this round the two are going to wait to send and maybe be the third quarterback. And then this kid. Yeah he can I you know, that will be fine Matt Jones better than people expected. Bryce young is the second best quarterback. Recruiting experts coming out of high school. High School was younger brother’s not a bad
Tyler Turner
quarterback. But
Santiago Leon
let’s talk about what
state we went go straight to Utah. It
Unknown Speaker
was a great game by the office. Obviously I went on a rant about Herbert did not play that. Well. Oregon one they want 24 to 10. Big touchdown on the kill right freshman second kickoff return for a touchdown. That kind of really was a they got ahead by that early in the game and never looked back there. Like I said they ran the ball pretty good. Weather was terrible for the passing game and very inconsistent. The defense played very well. It’s seven time this year they’ve held a team to 10 points or under there now we’re back in the top 15 and defensive efficiency. I believe when this season is all said and done, I believe the defense will end up higher rated than their office. That’s probably the first time for Oregon and I don’t know 1620 years. So yeah, they won. It was not a great looking game. I honest To be honest, they’ve won that game over USC, and then the free game sense. They’ve had two underwhelming victories of not very good Team and then they have the bad loss Arizona State. Oregon is not exactly trending in the right direction and I don’t know why. It’s not like a bunch of injuries have happened yesterday had a wide receiver to go down office alignments against up with the nothing crazy. I don’t understand why the team is not quite playing as well. And yeah, I don’t know why pervert claim worse. It’s a little confusing. It happened last year. After they beat Washington they went that tailspin where they lost three out of four got smashed by Arizona on the road. And it’s kind of trending bad if they lose your tall once again, I’ll be losing two of your last three regular season games and really not looking good even in the victories. I don’t know two years of this underbarrel crystal ball staff we’ll see if I can get rectified in the future. But call me obviously I went on my my Herbert rant the call me still a little bit of a skeptic about the old coach Jackie man of Mario crystal ball and his staff. I just am a little bit skeptical. Like I said second year in a row where the second half of the season booked is good, where they kind of had big emotional victories over teams like Washington and USC and then started not to play as well. Blue as possible playoff opportunity. I just
Tyler Turner
yeah, you just don’t know there’s a lot of people
Unknown Speaker
just don’t see it. And I’m not gonna I don’t see why.
Unknown Speaker
They’re coaching, you know, lasting longer than a year or two years from, you know, what do you mean? Like, what I’m assuming is that you don’t think if Marcos the ball, you know, doesn’t do well in another year, that he might be out of the program
Unknown Speaker
that that is that is absolutely I don’t know. I mean
Santiago Leon
that’s all assumption
Tyler Turner
that that’s not that’s not accurate at all. But But you expressed doubts. What?
Santiago Leon
You’ve expressed doubts over Mark Cristobal?
Tyler Turner
No, I did not. Did I say he was going to be fired with me, you know, but
Santiago Leon
I mean I’m assuming that’s my words.
Tyler Turner
Okay, no,
no, I
Unknown Speaker
didn’t hear anything. 1716 his first year he was knighted for landed the top 13 class second year. You 10 wins won the PAC 12 north. He has a Euroland to the top 10 glass. He’s about he has a top 15 class until and he’s going to play the PAC 12 championship game. No, I did not say Mario Chris.
Santiago Leon
I know that. I was thinking
Tyler Turner
maybe. Okay, I’m gonna I’m gonna clarify just so I don’t have any like, pasty conclusions put on to play. I said I’m a little bit skeptical of the coaching staff overall academics. No, I do not take my own crystal ball is even a year, two years, maybe even three years from even being close to 90. I do worry that possibly we could bring it in very good talent. I think he’s one of the best recruiters for a head football coach in college football. He was a 2015 National recruiter of the Year by 2474 is undoubtedly a great recruiter. I sometimes worry about some of the in game adjustments. I sometimes worry about some of the in game overall game management like timeouts going to force down where the pot where to go for it. Some of those type of things I worry about, and I worry a little bit about his some of his support staff possibly the overall identity of the office. More the offense, defense got better. It’s tough to question the defense when the defense and every statistical error area is better this year than last year. So I’m not really going to question the defense when they are better in total yards if they’re given less yards. Again on last point, they forced more turnovers they get more sacks. I don’t really question that defense that better statistically in every area, so I’m gonna say Andy abalos and his staff did a good job. The offense not so much they basically have been kind of the same. And that’s returning a senior quarterback and and four and five, sorry, starting offensive lineman, including four seniors. I am a little more what’s the word she mean skeptical about the offense. I’m a little skeptical about some of the end game decisions in Game Day management. And even adjustments by Marcus small No, no, I don’t think Mario crystal ball is on the hot seat in a year. Now let’s say that when he won 10 games during the PAC 12 title playing against Utah
Santiago Leon
Okay, Marcus the ball is on.
And plus who else we hire at this point.
Tyler Turner
Okay, let’s move on to Utah
Unknown Speaker
organ. Is the underdog for the PAC 12. championship Utah is moving moving up. They have a chance to clinch the college football playoffs. Big 12 game will be this Friday at 8pm Eastern at Levi’s Stadium. ESPN, a football power index is favoring the ducks to win it by 51% probability to win it Tyler, what do you what are your expectations for this game?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so the FBI does say the docs on Vegas favors Utah. Utah’s favorite by five points. um you know what I have gone so back and forth on this game okay. Looking at Utah in a nutshell not Utah has a top five defense according to efficiency and leave the number five in the top 10 office or efficiency I believe they’re number eight. They have a senior quarterback who started the last three years he’s very efficient is one of the highest QB ours of any quarterbacks in college football and Tyler Huntley. They have the best running backs. Well, Zach moss is then one of the best running backs in three years probably one of the top five running backs in college football. Have a great deep, probably the best defensive line in college football. She wrote Jackie low to high I’m still better than I give up. And I Bradley and I You have one of the best linebackers and cosmopolis Bernard is an inside linebacker probably will be a middle round draft pick, arguably the best corner in the PAC 12 and Jalen Johnson and maybe the best safety and Julian Blackmun. I’m looking forward to there at Rickie Fowler to possibly the best defensive lineman in the PAC 12. They are maybe maybe the best coach in the past. Kyle winningham has been a very successful coach his old 10 year taking over for Urban Meyer back early, I think 14 years ago. There’s so much to like about Utah. But there is a couple things. There’s a couple things
Tyler Turner
there, they still only have according to
the number 47 most talented roster in Wow, they have number seven most talented roster in the PAC 12 so they’re only middle tier in the PAC 12. As far as talent, they only have eight weeks. Chip prospects so the fact that winningham has these guys played at such a high level he’s got these guys that are the three stars that are probably going to be NFL picks guys and folks who and Bradley and I and Bernard and black men and Huntley in LA and they have a good time and I forget his name you know, I don’t know name. But when you watch, you do sometimes see that when you get behind the better players, the depth is a little there is a drop off. Rick Egan The title is
Santiago Leon
Frank coos
Tyler Turner
I don’t know if that’s an either.
Okay, go ahead. Sorry.
Okay, um, I don’t know the name might be that guy, but I’m not sure. Anyway. Very, very good. Very good one that’s tied into the country. But when you go by it, you know, you saw the USC game, they took advantage. USC took advantage with a third string quarterback of the kind of the size and athletic ability of the big wide receivers. They upset us on Washington early when they jumped out to big lead. You know, they saw that some of the like the smaller dB, the other guy other than Jonathan and they get a good rate you fast the small you got taken advantage of a little bit so does the safety on the ball over the prior Washington lead got out to the big lead. You see sometimes, where teams are able to take advantage of some of the lack of talent, certain areas of the team. So there’s that. And there’s also so much on the line for you Todd, this is a school that was owned has only been a power five school for under a decade. They moved from the Mountain West over to the cash flow. They finally are in a place that they can possibly make the college football player. that burden sometimes can be too much for people and handle the pressure and sometimes guys that have been playing loose that just scoping out going out being themselves tighten up especially an atmosphere like Levi Stadium, which is cut the big stadium 49 years play there but it’s not a great college football stadium and it’s kind of big, kind of flat. Probably not the best emotional game and a lot of emotion can go into guys. You know? You know, sometimes the fans help bring up this emotion help you all this emotion but with a big stadium The name is not that loud. You have to fuel it. What if all of a sudden they’re they’re tight and then they come out flat and maybe a couple things don’t go their way and then the emotion in the stadium is just blah. I don’t know because I saw last year so the practical championship it used to tell the guys are both teams are struggling to really get any energy in that stadium. There’s a 10 three Dave, I saw the ducks ducks played Michigan State and the Redbox bowl, they won 76 once again, that is kind of that motion of the stadium kind of dead you kind of gotta do yourself. Well for a team it’s it’s kind of overachieved sometimes probably played off of having that edge just being there. On what is it not like tight, flattens them out, you know? there’s just there’s just some of those, like outside for subjective but there’s kind of an outside variable. That makes me wonder if you’re tall could have too much on the line in this game and that stadium that it might not play like dabble here.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, it’s Brant Keuthe. Oh, that’s the that’s the tight-end.
2 touchdowns this past weekend interested?
Unknown Speaker
But you look at because as a team, there have been a more consistent team than Morgan. Like I’ve looked at them play weekend week out there more you kind of know you get you get a team that efficient on offense, a team that doesn’t give up big plays and forces turnovers on defense. Tough to run on tough to consistently drive the field on defense on offense. You know, Huntley is very accurate as a passer when he gets rushed to use the gets rid of the ball or he moves the chains with his legs with positive yardage. Boss is a good player get positive yards pretty much in every carry. They’re just a very efficient team. And that’s why I think if they do win the PAC 12 championship, I think they deserve it more than Oklahoma, because I think overall off at the defense, they are more efficient teams in Oklahoma is there they have been more efficient. I don’t think they quite have the talent of Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma actually would be more apt to possibly pull off an upset over in Ohio State. But if you’re just going to go off of a team that’s been more efficient on a weekend week out basis and has consistently dominated their office position by just being better on both sides of the ball and you talk better. But that being said, lack of overall baseline talent, and the fact that there’s so much on the line that can cause a team to tighten up. It’s an interesting game. Also, like I said, they had the best dl in the PAC 12 but Oregon combats that with one of the best offensive line not just in the PAC 12 but in college football. Oregon does have some big receivers guys like jajuan Johnson like Spencer Webb, that maybe could take advantage of those smaller DVDs like a good Ray or that the WHO THE OTHER DVD that someone like USC and even Washington early on. Um, defensively, you told the offensive line is okay, but it’s not great. Can you talk can already get started. Can Oregon get pressure on Tyler Huntley maybe forced him a little bit outside where he has to make some plays. And I think the tight ends a good guy but the other weapons at the wide receiver position. Simpkins and Nicola I think they’re solid players. They’re not terrific. They’re not elite. I think that Oregon defense secondary unless it unless they play like they did against Washington State and Arizona state they had a couple of really bad games. But the other 10 games this season the defensive backfield and very good, including against Oregon State. So if they can play well, they can force Huntley. They could maybe make them a little one dimensional where they’re having trouble getting the ball down the field, making them pass and making the offense a little one dimensional. Yeah, there’s definitely some scenarios where I like Oregon, I think Oregon has a little more baseline talent. But I do think that what Utah’s definitely the had been the more efficient team they’ve been the more consistent team Yeah, I am struggling with this game I really don’t know which way to go because of a couple variables obviously My heart wants Oregon. But I don’t know if my head say a nap but also my head’s also taking me a different direction to some kind of a breakdown of Oregon Utah.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, of course you tie something to play for they have a lot of college football playoff hopes I was watching a show this morning on ESPN.
Tyler Turner
Now the
Unknown Speaker
thing you told us that the pressure but the end of the day, the winner wins the PAC 12 the winner for sure is is is going to have a Rose Bowl appearance so you tell him no matter what will make the Rose Bowl in Oregon when they make the Rose Bowl so there’s a lot in line even for Oregon to win a PAC 12 to have a road full appearance. The most prestigious bowl in college football history itself, Oregon just that pressure till
Unknown Speaker
now, the only loss used to hide was against USC Do you see a correlation? I mean, is it Oregon beat USC? Do you see any correlation with that game they lost to?
Tyler Turner
What do you mean? I mean,
Santiago Leon
like, like analyzing from that, from that Oregon, I mean that USC, Utah game. Did you see weakness from Utah that possibly could take a gain advantage for me? Did you?
Tyler Turner
Did you not hear me? Oh, you said that already. You’re not here. Yeah. Well, what did you hear what I said?
Santiago Leon
No, I didn’t. I apologize. Okay.
Unknown Speaker
Well, you didn’t. So okay, looks like you’re probably flirting with that girl as you are in your office. I’ve seen you before. And I’ve seen you on that live cat video. Anyway, um, you said
Santiago Leon
it, we can move on. Don’t worry about it.
Tyler Turner
Don’t worry, but no, no, no, no. I said, okay to go back to sit with to reiterate what I said. I said USC took advantage of the big wide receivers now USC, Michael Pittman, Tyler bond, Drake London, and they were able to utilize it against the smaller Utah. dB. Not Johnson, but more than good, very good read the guy. He’s He’s fast. He’s really small. And they’re able to go to the top of him and they made the play wide receiver. Yes. And then Washington. I said Washington does the same thing early. And that’s why they jumped out to the lead. They’re able to get the ball downfield and that big tight end who split out 100 Bryant who’s able to make some plays, they bind them to be able to make plays i remember correctly. So yes, guys like jajuan Johnson, Spencer Webb, the bigger wide receivers possibly get the ball off the top of it. I remember you saying that? Yep. Now, Now that being said, that’s not exactly Herbert forte is not exactly the best. Getting the ball over the top. He’s not very accurate at it. One of the many things you’re not very good at Yeah, but yeah, if Herbert can all of a sudden transform a new quarterback and do that a little bit, I could see them making plays over the top. Yeah. And then and then like I said, the other thing is, is kind of walking down I think USC did a little bit with a more athletic secondary. And I think the same with Oregon, the more athletic secondary may be able to lock down the wide receivers, and make Huntley kind of uncomfortable where he can so run around and move around in the pocket. Also hugly the battling a knee injury, I think he heard against USC and ever since then he has not been 100% he did a little so if he gets hit a few times, possibly could affect his mobility. And then that would make them even one more one dimensional. That’s what I try to do. I try to make you tall one dimensional. I try to make it where they can pretty much only run and not get plays down the field. And then on the other side of the ball run. It’s gonna be hard to run they have a very good front seven especially defensive line, but the Maybe get some balls over the top to the bigger wide receivers like jajuan Johnson, Brian Addison and central
Santiago Leon
Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham is looking to become the first know the second Pac 12. team to win the title clash and in the process and press enough members of the selection committee to earn the number four seed in the final playoff rankings. And I was watching this ESPN to show this morning and yeah, and they were saying I think they were saying that that the PAC 12 team Utah as a way more advantaged in Oklahoma. So we’ll definitely be looking at but you still has to be an organ in Levi’s Stadium
Tyler Turner
this Friday. I think yeah, I think there are more I think their overall a more on the wonder you’re not you weren’t listening your your messaging of sportscasters your staff my thing. Yeah, I think there’s a more efficient teams in the metric say they’re more efficient team than Oklahoma. That being said, Oklahoma’s probably a little more talented and probably had a little Little better schedule, but also couple of the teams that are in the top 25 on Oklahoma schedule last. So if they fall out of the top 25 that makes Oklahoma schedule not look as good. So and So that being said, also if you tell them to make the college football playoff, Oregon actually makes the road ball no matter what, which is great for you.
Santiago Leon
That’s good enough to end the year.
Unknown Speaker
It’s not I want them to win the PAC 12 title. I don’t want them to back in. I really don’t. Well, I mean, yeah, that’s a decent concept. That’s a decent consolation prize, but I’d much rather have them be PAC-12 champions, which they can it’s much better to sell. Yeah, it’s much better to sell recruits on Hey, we were Pac 12 champions. We made it to Rose Bowl.
Tyler Turner
Then saying yeah, I mean, if you said you’re a Rose Bowl champion,
Santiago Leon
and like Tyler says, Oregon has a better talent sheet than Utah does. So if Oregon wins it should not be a surprise.
Ready for championship? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, championship week predict game predictions. Are you ready? Yep. Start off with Georgia vs LSU in Atlanta
Unknown Speaker
Georgia overzealous you um I think it’s you know, I believe Georgia is DeAndre swift injured in this game
Santiago Leon
Let me double check on you on a keep going while check Georgia
Unknown Speaker
I’m checking to it well I can’t really keep going because this is like
Santiago Leon
one player making a different
Tyler Turner
status
Santiago Leon
was one player at Kirby smart further downplay severity of injury injury feels like
Unknown Speaker
hey, it’s on okay. He’s He’s supposedly fine but coaches said a lot I don’t know.
Santiago Leon
He’s He’s progressing.
Tyler Turner
Ward’s
receivers out.
Secondly and receiver George.
Santiago Leon
Wonder Justin. He’s out
Pickens know they’re they’re wide receiver DeAndre
Tyler Turner
DeAndre Simpson play wide receiver but he’s running back
Santiago Leon
okay go ahead
Tyler Turner
okay so he said swift it well smart is saying he’s playing so smart says with the running back is playing Lawrence cage or the wide receiver is out George Pickens, the other wide receiver other lead wide receiver is out in the first half because he punched someone in the last game that’s really smart and he possibly could get suspended the whole game so it’s that’s still questionable, if swift pager and Pickens, three of the leading weapons and offense are out. I don’t like that for Georgia because George’s office in general is not a super sophisticated office. They rely on pretty much having the dogs to do it. If they don’t have a dog, I don’t think they see them scheming up enough to score points. George has a great deal. Georgia might have the best season to college football. But that being said, I don’t think you’re going to shut down LSU offense, I just don’t think they’d be able to keep up with LSU. If they don’t have those guys, now it’s tickets because back in the second half and Swift is able to go and it’s a little bit better. If they’re able to keep a close in the first half, maybe second half, they’re able to make some plays, and pull off the upset. I just think that the weapons being a slight issue and the Office of Georgia at times just not being very dynamic. I think LSU is going to score more points. I do think Georgia slows LSU down and more so than any other team but I see it being like a 2821 victory
Santiago Leon
2021 by touchdown acc championship Tyler, who do you have between Virginia versus Clemson?
Tyler Turner
Okay, so like I don’t really think there’s any chance for the ducks to make the playoffs but I did think of one crazy one and this Virginia upset Clemson Clemson would not only have One loss that would not only not have one ACC they also have not beaten anyone the top 25. Would Oregon who is a power five conference champion, who has two victories over top 25 teams, including the victory of the top 10 Utah and a conference champion would they get the nod over Clemson?
Santiago Leon
possible?
possible I
mean, I constantly better about Alabama.
Unknown Speaker
No, no Alabama if to why would Alabama Dave two losses and they’re not even a conference champion?
Unknown Speaker
I’m just kidding.
Unknown Speaker
No, no victory. No, listen, if two losses they’re not a conference champion and have no victories over top 25 teams, what argument would they have?
Santiago Leon
Nada?
Unknown Speaker
No, I’m asking a serious question. Do you think Oregon could get into that thing? I’m like asking you a legit if
Santiago Leon
Oregon wins the big 12 championship and Virginia beats Clemson
Maxwell title championship still won last team. I can see that yeah now. Yeah, I mean now thinking about it.
Tyler Turner
The issue is, is that not only does Clemson not have a conference title, but they also would have no top 25 victories.
Santiago Leon
Then the argument Oklahoma will come in as well. So it’s a
Tyler Turner
no no, no. Okay. Okay, so here it is. Number one, I’m just going to give you this scenario. Ohio State wins the big 10 championship. Their number one LSU wins the SEC championship. Their number two, Oklahoma wins the big 12 championship there number three, who would be number four if Clemson lost
Santiago Leon
between Oregon and Oklahoma didn’t
Unknown Speaker
know I said number one, Ohio State number two LSU number three, Oklahoma. Yeah,
Santiago Leon
then that would be Oregon.
Unknown Speaker
Would I mean, it would be played Oregon and Clemson? Correct?
Santiago Leon
Yeah. That’s Wow. Oh gosh,
Tyler Turner
because Baylor would be eliminated eliminated because they would not be a conference champion, Alabama would be eliminated because they’re not a conference champion, Georgia would be eliminated because they’re not a conference champion. So it either be a one loss, Clemson who didn’t win their conference versus a two loss, Oregon who won their conference and had two top 25 victories and Clemson had not and then I will go, I will go with Oregon. I know probably no one else has thought of that scenario, but it’s somehow Virginia put off the crazy upset what’s a good thing? I just like Yeah, I like honestly, I I would say Oregon deserves it. But in a way I would be like, I think Clemson’s a better team even if they did lose. clemson better norgan so I don’t know. Which
Santiago Leon
is why 16
Tyler Turner
Quantum quantum winning. I don’t I thought Oklahoma the I thought Oregon would have a chance because I thought Oklahoma was going to lose Oregon, Oklahoma State and then Oklahoma was going to win the big 12 and then in between is going to be positive between the two loss Oklahoma and to launch Oregon but that didn’t happen. So anyways, I think
they went Clemson when you want Virginia, Virginia.
Santiago Leon
That’s gonna be Clemson.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, I’m rooting for Virginia.
Santiago Leon
And it’s your wife’s team, right?
Tyler Turner
Yeah, not my team. But yeah.
Santiago Leon
Big 10 championship. We got.
Tyler Turner
Um,
Unknown Speaker
I don’t ever like normally it’s tough to beat a team twice in a year. That first game was one of those crazy games. Baylor dominated early and then Oklahoma came back and won. I thought Baylor’s looked a little better overall, especially recently, you know, they dominate did was it who did they beat was a kid who did TCU beat the week before can well they obviously dominated Kansas or Texas. They dominate Texas. I don’t know it’s kind of you know what I do when they come back with a chip on their shoulder and they are like you know what? We had that first game one and we gave it up and that day they came out I think anyone
Santiago Leon
I think that could be the biggest surprise.
Unknown Speaker
I think that game is a tough one. I mean, it could be a toss up I really even though people are saying Oklahoma, but I think that game might be a toss up Baylor my when you’re right. Big 10 championship. Ohio State vs. Wisconsin. A very good looking a wild state.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, you know what, Wisconsin looks good. Wisconsin has a very good team. I normally don’t like you know, being the team twice in a year is very hard, but Ohio State’s very good. I just think they’re better at Every level than Wisconsin, I think you’ll be I think Wisconsin will play them closer than the first game. I think it’ll be pretty close for first two and a half quarters. I think it’s a they end up running away in the end that makes 41 to 24.
Unknown Speaker
I wish we had time to talk about the Wisconsin Minnesota game, but it was a good game Wisconsin one single handily in Minnesota. So anyways,
Unknown Speaker
you know, I think what Scott Johnson might still make throws balls between Wisconsin and Penn State, so it’ll be close to
Santiago Leon
having a good match.
Unknown Speaker
Oregon vs. Utah, Pac 12. This Friday 8pm on ABC Eastern.
Unknown Speaker
You know, I don’t know, man, I like go back and forth. Obviously, I’m an Oregon fan. So I want to pick Oregon I think Utah is what’s better and more consistent. I also think that Oregon has more talent. I think Utah has more on the line. That could be a good thing. That could be a bad thing. I don’t know.
Santiago Leon
Tyler, what do you think?
What do you think? I think you has a lot to play and I think they’re gonna win it even though you really convinced me I like the whole talent thing but then Herbert hesitant as well, I mean you can’t live up to those moments. I think Utah’s going to pull it off either by three points or by touchdown.
Tyler Turner
Okay, sounds good.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, it’s very hesitant because
Tyler Turner
what Herbert are going to see on Friday. I’d love to play up Herbert. I haven’t loved the overall play of the team. They, you know, yeah. Okay.
Unknown Speaker
I wouldn’t be shocked. I think it’s 2421. Either way, that sounds bad. Yeah, sure. I’ll go Utah. And then 2421 Utah, but I could, I could see it the opposite. And of course I want Oregon to win. Of course, tonight. That being said, I obviously I picked LSU to be Georgia. Obviously. I picked Clemson Baylor to be Oklahoma so as long as you tell wins that game they make college football playoff if they lose, Baylor makes a college football playoff.
Unknown Speaker
Who wouldn’t you tell you They made it. Who does that? No one.
Unknown Speaker
Not even a soul. No, that’s, that’s the first team team, composite era that had established outside of the top 25.
Unknown Speaker
And they can happen. And Monday Night Football Minnesota at Seattle.
Tyler Turner
I’m from Minnesota, Minnesota.
Santiago Leon
And it is Cyber Monday. What are your favorite favorite brand to shop from Levi’s Apple supreme or the sneaker company?
called
Unknown Speaker
Heikki? Sorry, hold on. I’m trying to hold the pole.
Unknown Speaker
No, it looks good.
Unknown Speaker
I’ve never shopped it,
Unknown Speaker
which by the way, you promoted something on Black Friday this past weekend.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah, it does a little bit about is it called hammer mill. I think
Unknown Speaker
Tamar well I didn’t I,
Unknown Speaker
I’ve just promoted I’ve been the face of their line for several times over the last three, four years. So I just put up their stuff like go check out MMA, it’s a local Minnesota company. They have used me as their models are yours. So check out their stuff. They have really nice quality. Really good cause really good quality. I’m gonna put the money down good clothes look good. Go check out him read
Santiago Leon
and their and their websites hammermaid. com.
Correct. And read.com Tyler, where’s the best way to reach you to talk to you about Lane Kiffin?
Tyler Turner
At @TurnerCast If he’s a new coach, if he’s a new coach at
Arkansas.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Which I heard room reports at Arkansas went to his house today. So we’ll see.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, yeah. Sounds like he’s pretty close to getting the job
Santiago Leon
done what you think will make
Tyler Turner
good question.
Santiago Leon
He’s made a million.
Tyler Turner
It’s all rosy of clay Helton still has a job. There’s rumors back and
Santiago Leon
forth what’s gonna happen?
Tyler Turner
Yeah, my goodness. I don’t know. definitely got disputed right away. So we’ll see.
Unknown Speaker
Anyways the sports cast dinette sports cast net visit us for the latest news on college football and other sports and of course, the sports cast one on Twitter. And that will be following college football throughout the week. Tonight we have Alabama recap over Auburn, the craziest game this past weekend. Somebody say and we’ll have an rankest on Thursday and we’ll have Kylie on Wednesday. And possibly Jeff far this Friday. Talk about the chiefs. And always Tyler I appreciate you coming on to the sports cast.
Tyler Turner
I did hopefully I’m talking next week about the ducks winning the PAC 12
Santiago Leon
big game. I’ll see you go ducks.