The Big Show – Dec. 12th, 2019

Santiago Leon, Justin Riley, Ty Turner, and Caillou Borden analyze the College Football Playoffs and the College Bowl games.

Santiago Leon
Sports cast December 12. Another beautiful day in December. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe and all our platforms, facebook, facebook, and YouTube. And if you haven’t yet, please subscribe on iTunes leave a rating and review. It will help us out tremendously. And visit us on the sports cast net. The sports cast net on the latest in sports news. Tonight is the big show where we invite most of the sports cast commentators if they can make it and we got Justin Riley tonight Kyle Lou and T Turner Tyler Turner from Indianapolis Welcome guys to the sports cast Big Show

Justin Riley
Good to be here.

Santiago Leon
Caillou, welcome.

Caillou Borden
Thank you. Welcome.

Santiago Leon
So the regular season as ended in college football. Obviously we know the top four that’s LSU, Ohio State, Clemson and Oklahoma. made it to the top four Start with Tyler Tyler, where are your thoughts so far with the top four was these were these top four the ones that you thought would end up

Tyler Turner
a while before the season when we did our big show? I believe I can’t remember but i think i think Clemson Alabama taxes? I’m not sure I believe that’s why why wouldn’t I take Oregon? That’s why they put Oregon in there. I actually didn’t take or just going to make it there with it. But actually, because the form they just mentioned is who I thought it was gonna be Alabama, Ohio State and Texas. So I was right with three of the four. I didn’t pick Oklahoma, but I also think Oklahoma by far the weakest of the four or the four seed and there’s a one that honestly there’s a top 3.0 I didn’t say what am I talking about? I said Alabama, Alabama didn’t make it. LLC made it to the floor. Yeah I didn’t TLC Vega to do that one. But yeah, but I was I was gonna be that five. But I thought Clemson Ohio State we’re going to make it and definitely LSU park in Ohio to a free pass and Oklahoma is probably the weak link I mean they deserved to make it you know one last one the big 12 um yeah, there was a choice but I just think

I think there’s other teams that are just as good I think

Unknown Speaker
Oregon time like my dogs are better than overland live here. I’m going to put up there but yeah, anyway, yeah, four teams do is definitely exciting season as far and definitely LSU, Clemson and Ohio State all were very good and down. It pretty much dominated or opposition LSU did have a close game against taxes and they had a close game against Alabama. Other than that they significally beat everyone else pretty handily. And definitely, definitely dominate Georgian sec title game Ohio State pretty much didn’t have really fighting close games all year. The closest game was 11 point went over Penn State and then the Clemson did not. I mean, they had the one one point victory over North Carolina. Other than that they beat everyone by I mean, there’s a professional victory over 8am and everyone else 53456

Tyler Turner
so definitely those are the three that was able to get in there. Now

Santiago Leon
back to you know, sticking with Tyler, did your talent composite reflect what we see right now with like the top four?

Unknown Speaker
talent formula? Yeah, formula? Yeah, so you go by either you can either you go by my formula I do. I kind of do a basic formula as I go by a four year pretty regular average. Five stars on the rosters plus 103 stars was blue chip prospect of course. And That comes up with my final score. And then of course the team to four seven as have explained before, super seven has their own team talent deposits, which uses the Gaussian distribution formula which developer and their various our results ended up pretty similar. And yes, as far as my formula and the 247 composite, whichever one you want to use, only top 10 teams made the playoffs. I had Alabama be number two. Let’s try it out Bama. I honestly want Alabama to be in the playoffs g Ohio State was number one. teams to 417 thousand had the number two LSU with number four in my formula, the team talent counted Adam number five, Oklahoma was number I think I just I changed it up till the end of the year for transfer portals I believe right now, Oklahoma number eight or nine and they’re eight or 92247 Team towel deposit and Clemson was nine in the closet. There were 10 in my team California Yeah, four teams that made the college football playoff all had top 10 baseline talent.

Santiago Leon
Kylie Borden what were your thoughts about the top four.

Caillou Borden
I thought it was predictable. I thought that I was a high state and I try to stay in the top four because I felt like there were more consistent team and unless you struggle with their defense or opponents even so actually had Ohio State as thing because I think they see they had a impressive wins over Michigan. So and Penn State so I actually had don’t think because I think they play more consistent throughout the whole year. But it says Oklahoma game then once you saw last Friday night in the fashion that they did, and as long as Georgia last Wednesday did LSU I know palm Oklahoma making that for one last big club champion. That was a really good game. Went to overtime. Really good game, good hearts and they will pull it out late anything you had a great game, but he was able to find ways to make the work. nobama Clemson then number three, they don’t play anyway but they were undefeated. They want acc championship steamrolled. So one and two I felt like Ohio State should have flip flop LSU but nobama four and of course Clemson got in at three so no bombs or they would at all except for one into

Santiago Leon
Justin Of course Alabama was predicted by a lot of people. Were you surprised with these top four?

Unknown Speaker
I’ll probably cancel the playoffs because Alabama in this time. Yeah, I mean, obviously I’m surprised just because the way things panned out I mean, my my original Final Four, close to resemble with everyone else including, you know, our sports cast crew here, picked had didn’t perceive all the injury issues, and especially didn’t perceive losing the heart and soul of our team and that was to attack a viola course we all thought Clemson would be there recently so the returning a lot of talent including anointed savior of football, Trevor Lawrence, which he was not exactly that the first half of the season, but he was able to, you know, change things up and improve as the season went on and look like he start getting back to his regular form. Didn’t see Ohio State being up there because I always saw how state pulling has a call at Ohio State blown it against an opponent they shouldn’t blow it against but however that it seems that they have moved past that curse, and as gotten to the the major platform here and then that’s been in the college football playoff with an opportunity to play for a national title. I gotta be honest with you, I did not see LSU be in that this position right now. You know, I thought LSU be tough and the usual difficult opponent for Alabama in the West, but I didn’t see and I think the majority of the nation can voice the same thing. The offensive explosion that we saw the LSU Bengal tiger produced this year I did not proceed Joe burrow, being the best player in college football. And that’s undeniable he is and he won the Heisman Trophy weeks, even probably monster for the even came into a conversation. It’s just a tremendous job that LSU staff has done this year and Joe burrow and that, and that crew. And just imagine what else you could have been, if I was wrong would have opened things up and allow this coordinators to do things with all the talent they had previously, but yeah, it’s a surprise the LSU con felt like Oklahoma would be there. I guess that had to do with a little bit of anything for Jalen heart. But he’s there, there’s that point. But yeah, it’s gonna be a different year a whole different field of things. And it’s still gonna be a pretty exciting playoff to watch.

Santiago Leon
Ty Were you surprised with Ohio State making it to the top

Unknown Speaker
I was really not surprised because like throughout the year I felt like like I said before today they were most consistent team they were blowing out once out. So we’re the one supplies that I was more surprised to begin a year of course I album in a plus. So I was more surprised by them not making applause, but not really surprised. Ohio State is a year in year out, they’re good for nine to 10 wins. So like you said, sometimes they trip up but for the most part, they’re really good team or Mayan And now, the second year so not really surprised what state

Santiago Leon
tag did mention this week that that people are saying Clemson can beat Ohio State. I mean, would you say that you’re predicting yourself as well that Clemson can beat Ohio State?

Caillou Borden
I don’t think that’s far. I mean,

Santiago Leon
go to Tyler Tyler.

Tyler Turner
Tyler you I think yeah. I predicting.

Unknown Speaker
Y’all. No, I believe I truly believe that. I’ll state the good to be Couple touchdowns. And by LSP, like I was stated about Stephen, they had the most talented roster video, they have the most amount of high end talent the most out of NFL guys, and I just, I believe they’re going to win at all. The only thing that could possibly I mean you obviously could play that game. I do know Justin fields battling with a knee injury and he just thought he could tell you is looking a little tentative, but as long as he gets sealed off I think they beat Clemson by 14 to 17 points and I think they do LSU have the same as the title game.

Caillou Borden
Wow, I didn’t know

Santiago Leon
what to expect that they just

Unknown Speaker
because content does have the experience and like when these type of games you you tend to factor in like experience does matter in this type of games.

Unknown Speaker
One argument to that though, is most of the starters especially on the defensive. Guys that played last year are graduated they went out.

Caillou Borden
And LSU also does play well New Orleans.

Unknown Speaker
Did Damn it. I saw it on our game database. They’re winning New Orleans, they have a really good record, which the national champs will be in the ones.

Santiago Leon
We think Justin canalis you go deep

Justin Riley
kanellis you go deep? Yeah, absolutely. I think that they’re playing their best ball right now. And I always see by slowing down LSU I think lC lC is a lot better. I think that they’re actually more of a complete team than Ohio State. Well, I think that they have a much more dynamic offense and much more high powered offense. And their their defense is getting a lot better because they have players who are back in that defense for the first time in a while they’re healthy. So I think you’re going to see a much improved overall LSU The only concern I have is they haven’t played on a stage like this. Since 2011, so there’s no one with any kind of big stage experience. And you know, that could come that could come into play. But as long as they continue to play with this passion and this determination they have implying, yeah, they’re going to run through this playoffs and get that championship game. And honestly see them winning the whole thing.

Santiago Leon
Tyler, what advantages do Ohio State have over LSU?

Tyler Turner
Stick Tyler.

Santiago Leon
Tyler Turner. I won’t call you Turner.

Tyler Turner
Sounds like you’re saying. Hello.

Santiago Leon
So obviously, you did say that Ohio State is more talented than LSU. What advantages do Ohio State besides talent? Is it the offense the defense What do you see in ohio state that could overcome LSU

Unknown Speaker
fishing, fishing grew up on the best offensive line 14 that are making the college football playoff is Ohio State they like Wyatt Davis probably the best offensive lineman of anyone on the college level and as a unit Ohio State’s events Unit Two out of the backfield. chicky Dobbin better than any other running back for games good

Tyler Turner
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Unknown Speaker
bad game I can’t tell us you running back that guy and then Oklahoma i believe i believe job is the most you can get the pass game it’s a great runner. He’s going to be a first round guy in the draft I believe the wide receiver groups only group I would actually get an edge to both constant analysis you then it would you go the defensive I mean chase young No, no team has a guy like JSON so right there automatically I believe that makes the defensive line for Ohio State the best linebacker group they pretty good linebacker spot that This guy has to be a top 10 tech, and then the D that feedback group LSU has some talented guys stingley

Tyler Turner
Colton

Unknown Speaker
Grant delpit these guys are going to be all NFL guys, but who’s played the best level how they guys have played at Jeffrey Okuda is a top five pick shot raise the first round pick. Forget the safeties day right now. I think it’s Fuller. he’s a he’s a terrific guy, probably. And there’s another guy our net, who kind of is a rover kind of guy. He’s probably going to be an early round dude. I just you just go from position group to position group. You see just high end talent on Ohio State. And, you know, defensive line of scrimmage, that line of scrimmage, went games and their offensive line, their defensive line are both elite. I can’t say that as much with Ohio State constant Oregon. Definitely not Oklahoma. Net not even LSU not even LSU and constant I don’t think Emily kind of guys up front sada reality is kind of odd this year, their best players of their wide receivers Jamar Chase, Terrence Marshall, Jefferson, and their running backs good. And then they also have a very good secondary Delta folder and staying late but they’re they’re not. They’re not elite in the front seven and they’re not a lead on the offensive line, which is very unusual for the normally we’re the opposite. Opposite. And Clemson. has you know the good guys really have like, like Isaiah Simmons a big time dude. Their front seven is not like it was last year. They don’t have put together terrible things. Lawrence Wilkerson, the guy stealing Pharaoh like they had first round three first round guys as offensive line. It’ll handle the guys here. They were Thomas fall apart but not to the level that they had last year and same with Rafa Why is good players but they’re more they’re either they’re better players are younger and less experienced and they’re better foot and they’re older players more experienced that’s just not a talent. I just I just like Ohio State’s rosters better than the other three

Santiago Leon
Caillou Borden Oklahoma obviously the weakest of the four what are the best chances what can they do when they play against LSU

Unknown Speaker
I think Obama’s gonna have to I think Obama defenses and playing better although they did raise the third string quarterback and you know they did they did struggle to me completed but I like that was lucky play more dang home bro got hurt. I felt like Oklahoma defense really kick that time you stops and unlike a year in a fast is that is the big 12 is not think what I feel like if Obama holds LSU to under 30 points or at least 30. That’s like Oklahoma actually has a good chance to actually win the game. A little upset. Because they’re not the number one he has never won a national championship game. That thing that Oklahoma’s best chance is they need deal hurts Of course they need to be sick tackler and also they need them that not fumble the ball George has seven turnovers in the last four games. They needed to protect the ball and hold LSU to under 30 points that will be video hostage is protect to protect the football.

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley Jalen hurts has championship experience. Can it come into play against LSU?

Unknown Speaker
Well, absolutely, Jalen is the most experienced that of anybody in this playoff right now I guess. Other than Trevor Lawrence but you know he does have the pedigree and he has a pretty good track record record against LSU believe or not, but the thing with him is like you just mentioned it, you know, towards the later part of the season. He started having the turnover ball he started playing you know, add a character you start making mistakes. I seem to be kind of rattled and also on top of that, He seemed to be regressing. You know, the first part of the season, he appeared very confident. It was a better passer making better decisions. He was going through his progressions and his reads. Then when the mistake started popping up, he started reverting back to his style play that he had while at Alabama. You know, the first receiver is not open, he all of a sudden credit prices go go gadget legs button, and he’s taken off. So I feel like there’s a confidence issue there. But like I said, my cash yesterday, you know, this time off will allow him to kind of regroup and refocus and get back to playing the way he was the first half of the season. Well, he’s going to have to do that the biggest thing for Oklahoma is that they’re going to win this game. They’re going to have to play mistake free football. They can’t give LSU anything else she makes a living off of mistakes from others, because they can capitalize off of it in a hurry and put a hurtin on you pretty quick. They gotta have a state free football and that defense gonna have to step up. They’re gonna have to sack borough like three or four times and force mistakes on their side. One thing to their advantage is to you know, they have a dynamic offense, which LSU has had a hard time this season when they’ve gone against dynamic all fences. So that is that is in their favor. But I think the LSU is way too powerful, you know, for Oklahoma. Maybe we’re overlooking Oklahoma, but you know, right now we’re just going off what we see going on with paper. So yeah, that’s my thought on it there.

Santiago Leon
Turner cast what can Oklahoma do to win to beat LSU

Unknown Speaker
I think I don’t, they’ll be able to hold our office down very minimally in my opinion. There there their defenses better. Alex sprints did a good job to defense. I still think they lack Some of the better personnel compared to the other playoff fonuts. They would have to keep up with them offensively at big games by broxson dd lamb. And some of the weapons would have to play Jalen hurts, they can’t turn the ball over. You know, I see, I just think LSU better. I’d be very shocked. The Oklahoma beat LSU you never know, when you play the game and some mistakes happen and he comes out you know, one is just sharper, executing better and it has been in the right place and, and going on script and maybe even off script. And you know, there’s a lot of things that could change the outcome but on the surface and basic analytics to two teams. I don’t think it’s the best magic for Oklahoma and I don’t see them win.

Santiago Leon
Let’s turn into the Heisman territory. The four finalists is Joe borrow Justin fields quarterback Jalen hurts and Ohio State defensive as chase young nine in that order. But Tyler if you had to put an order to this, how would you put it?

Tyler Turner
Um, I would probably do a Joe Burrow. year

Unknown Speaker
I’d probably go chase young he’s he’s the most impactful defensive player maybe overall player in the country at his position at any position. He did miss two games I still put him at second third up adjusted field. He’s a very efficient, he’s made very limited mistakes and it floods that rain. That’s been a very dominant theme this year. And I actually wouldn’t have had Jalen hurts in New York. I don’t know why he’s in New York, but he beat me to say except the end of the season, put a video game number but everyone else does with Lincoln Riley’s off. So I would I would just say The other girl feel sorry girl young field hurts.

Santiago Leon
If you had a great fourth spot, other than Jalen hurts, who would you put in that fourth spot?

Tyler Turner
on the spot, you can say Justin Herbert. No.Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker
That’s a good question. I could I think really those top three I would maybe change it up and do three Ohio State Buckeyes.

Unknown Speaker
Jonathan Taylor picked up. Yeah, I was running back. I was a Taylor had a terrific year.

Unknown Speaker
He had a terrific year, he almost rushed for 2000 yards for the third straight year. He’s a little underappreciated. Now there often is built around running backs having big numbers number Melvin Gordon and want a book like all Moneyball, they also put up huge numbers. So I mean, Without the facts put up big numbers that often but that being said he still did it. And his team was good. So yeah, I’ll do Jonathan Taylor.

Santiago Leon
Hi Lou. Who would your top four be in order?

Unknown Speaker
I would have Joe burrow 4715 total yards 40 touchdowns six interceptions. Now would have Jobar it went it clear no doubt. Second, I would have chase young he would had a really fantastic season for our state. Third out actually have Jalen hurts because despite the turnovers, Justin fields did struggles as wise content in the first half that also needs to be noted. So I think that Jalen hurts overall although he said although he said the last four games struggle he had served for a year I feel like he has better numbers more he has more counted touchdowns and Justin fields separate like he should be over Justin field. So I have Joe borrow chase Dong. Jalen hurts. And then the fourth Justin fields.

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley, who is your top four in order

Unknown Speaker
Mas and, of course, Joe burrow humming the holes want number one, solely by himself, and everybody else is just up, you know, behind looking. So the question is who’s gonna finish second? So yeah, take your number two. Just feels the merciful three and adequate Jalen at four. Why? I think he’s still I mean, I know he’s had a couple bumps here and little O’s the last part of the season, he’s still put up incredible numbers. I mean, he’s rushed for over 1200 yards he’s passed for, you know, well over 3000. So I mean that that’s quite an accomplishment. And he has, you know, buku of touchdowns. So that’s not something that you you ignore. I think that he’s had a tremendous year. And I think that he still has a lot to show us ahead.

Santiago Leon
Tyler Turner. Where do you see Jalen hurts landing in the NFL Draft which round

Tyler Turner
That’s like way out

Unknown Speaker
of Cosmo playoff Ivan Where’s Jalen hurts go I don’t know I’ve evaluated I’m he’s not one about he’s not one of the top predicted quarterbacks. I mean any any of the analysts that I follow it pretty much is probably first going to be borough and then it’s probably a battle between two and Herbert’s with a dark horse being a guy like Jordan love or Jacob decent if the declares

Santiago Leon
that’s that’s what I’m

Unknown Speaker
yeah that’s I never see Hurt. I never see Hurts.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, yeah which I’m asking because I haven’t heard anything and I know you’re more deep in the weeds with that so I get

Unknown Speaker
yeah I you know I haven’t looked deep enough to see but she’s not in the top five. I wonder if he even plays quarterback in NFL wow I just wonder if he does. Justin, what do you think he’s a great athlete. He’s a great athlete. You could be an age. It’s a different position. But still, I think he’s been an athlete. He’s hard worker.

Santiago Leon
We think Justin,

Unknown Speaker
what was the question? Sorry?

Santiago Leon
How? What round? Do you think? Hurt hurts, we’ll go in the NFL. Man.

Unknown Speaker
That’s really a hard question. You know, I mean, some people will say that he may be in a late first round, but you know that that’s when he was playing.

Caillou Borden
I’ve never ever,

Santiago Leon
that’s wishful thinking. Okay.

Okay, well, Finebaum.

Go ahead, Justin.

Justin Riley
Are we good?

Santiago Leon
Yeah, we’re good. The last thing is done.

Unknown Speaker
Now, I said I saw some articles where people were saying that before I started watching thing I was gonna say, I don’t foresee that happening. I think that, you know, Jalen is not really improved to the point where it’s gonna make GM and coaches feel confident enough in him as a passer. I think he’s gonna be dragged to probably about mid to late rounds. And I think he’ll be used as a guy that can you know, play. I’ll be an athlete and play multiple positions, maybe be somebody like the guy I can’t think of his name in New Orleans. They played our role. Hey, Jason. Jason. Hello, Jason. Man. taysom Hill. Yeah. So I think that Jalen, that way, and let’s see, you know, this has to be stubborn and play quarterback only. But you know, if he’s open minded and just is about getting to the league, then you know, he’ll he’ll be that kind of player. But yeah, I’m thinking mid to late rounds. We think I Lou. Hey, by the way, Justin, we weren’t I wasn’t laughing at you. I was laughing at the guy who had predicted Regarding the first round that’s just ridiculous yeah there were a few little articles here and there from from various websites they were saying that but you know the consensus as a whole is you know, they don’t have them in the first round nothing against him but it’s just like we’ve all said you know, he just hasn’t developed as a pastor the way he would need to have done to warn a first round selection.

Santiago Leon
We think I Lou

Unknown Speaker
I don’t see him going honestly early in the forefront I can see when I sent you a flyer him was a late pics, posture and just spot on the roster as a backup quarterback for maybe an older quarterback with a playoff roster or is that doesn’t work. I could potentially see him as a quarterback in the CFL. I don’t really have to doubt the guy but you know, I could potentially see a score in here but I don’t really think that much of him at the NFL level even though the NFL is headed towards a dual threat league. I just don’t think he’s a good enough process the next level I mean, I hate to doubt the guy but

Santiago Leon
I like your answer, Caillou. I mean, it could happen. It’s very possibility. We’re going to, we’re going to go around each one and talk about you know, your after thoughts of your conference with Tyler Turner is the PAC 12 overall Tyler What do you think about the PAC 12 this season?

Unknown Speaker
Well, we once again didn’t make culturable playoffs gratulations Pac 12 I guess, third year in a row. And so then it doesn’t stop the national narrative which thing? I think they the PAC 12 had

Tyler Turner
a good one. Good game that

Unknown Speaker
blue that game against Auburn that end up really costing the college level class. I do think Oregon’s a good team Oregon has a talented enough roster to be in the college football playoff conversation, that enough good players key position that elite offensive line, that NFL quarterback that if Oregon hadn’t blown that game game late against Auburn and one that even if they’ve lost ASU, they would have won the PAC 12 title. And I think Oregon overall was the better team than Oklahoma. But they didn’t do it. They lost that and then it was de su and they got knocked out on Utah. Kinda full of a lot of people in all of Scott’s the college football playoffs, there was just one big obstacle. They had to beat a ranked team to get there. And unfortunately, didn’t beat ranked teams to play great teams a lot of Utah was Utah was cool. I kind of thought they were they’re well coached team. They’re an experienced team, that guy that had developed into very good football players, but they lacked baseline talent. They do not have the athletes, obviously of Oregon. That’s what why they lost. Oregon was just Faster, faster on defense nazrin often and as lead didn’t You told me to make the college football playoff and would have gotten embarrassed by fabulous. Like they, they would have been absolutely embarrassed like 55 to like 10. So I’m glad they got embarrassed and said my Oregon, because they make the playoffs, various types of so unfortunately of which Oregon they won the PAC 12 they obviously are number 16 I think it deserved to be number five. But I don’t know how Georgia kept their spots by losing by 30 in the title game, but whatever. But Oregon had to get the talent to make the playoffs. I don’t think they I think they still would have been the weakest in the playoffs. And I think they would have had better athletes. And you know, you could have made it a little bit of an interesting game against LSU. They would have been, in my opinion, but I think would have been a better game than in anyone else’s. And, and and the team I liked him I cover Oregon they want it and so that was fun and they may Rose Bowl most prestigious game. I think it’s the best matchup, Wisconsin resogun probably the best matchup outside the playoffs. I think daler Georgia is pretty good too. But I own Alabama Michigan’s good matchup but, but it’s one of the best matchups outside for the bowl games, and my team won it and we’ve looked pretty good along the way and if it hadn’t been for a last second road game against Auburn, we’re to probably make

Santiago Leon
tyloo Borden, what were your thoughts of big 12 football this past season? I thought

Unknown Speaker
Oklahoma I love it. And I love for us. But Oklahoma was 12 and one sitting at home. We asked me to come full blast. Baylor had a really good year Matt road did a really terrific job. Oklahoma State had a solid year. And so those three teams really stood out to me. Everyone else played big 12 level. Kansas they was filing for Iowa State had a quality win. Texas is not that. So really those things really Baylor really surprised me to share. Everything else is status quo. And

Santiago Leon
Justin sec almost had two teams in the playoffs. What are your thoughts about this past season for the SEC?

Unknown Speaker
Well, obviously it’s our balance and I’m very disappointed just in the fact that, you know, we we suffered those horrific injuries we had many as non starters out this season, we had several key players who were out the entire season. And one of those like I said earlier was talking about lower and it was just a season of just the regularities for Alabama you know, things that were not used to where the most penalize teams in the in the conference and one of the most analyze teams in the country which is something that is not save it ask is not Alabama standard, you know, made a lot of mistakes. Just very undisciplined which was very, very frustrating, especially coming from a saving team. But Alabama still managed to, you know, win 10 games have despite all that, and course our we didn’t, we didn’t have a necessarily hard schedule, which given the circumstances, it was probably better that we had a schedule. It wasn’t too up to par If it would have beaten the teams that we needed to. We be in the playoff right now, but we fell short. LSU is the biggest surprise of course that goes without saying just tremendous season. Tigers exploded that all fans just looked phenomenal words game and describe what they are able to do this year unprecedented. I guess that’s the word that can describe it. Georgia kind of prove that they’re not ready to step on to the elite level yet. They’re still the top in the east. However, Florida is starting to gain some momentum now. Looks like Dan Mullen is starting to change things there and they’re on the upswing. Really was impressed with what Jeremy Pruett has done at Tennessee. He took them from being in the dungeon of the SEC. And borderline being a dumpster fire and was able to get this team to regroup. And now they’re playing in a bowl game that’s that’s huge for that program. So I was really impressed with what Jeremy Pruitt was able to do all burn. Obviously, they’re one of the better defensive teams in the in the conference as well as the nation. Matter of fact, that’s the main reason why they won as many games as they did, and certainly wasn’t because they’re all fans. But just a great crazy year in the sec certainly in tournament the way that any of us expected. But I LSU is the king of the conference right now. And now they’re playing for something a little bit more.

Santiago Leon
Tyler Turner also covered the big 10 What were your thoughts about big 10 this past season,

Tyler Turner
Ohio State and everyone else

Unknown Speaker
The big 10 was a very strong conference this year. We have three we have, of course, Ohio State College Football Playoff. Two different teams at New York near six, Wisconsin and Penn State. I think we you also have Iowa and the top 16 minutes, Minnesota at 18. You had Michigan at 14. So in the top eight teams, you had six big 10 teams. Big 10 had a pretty strong argument being the best conference this year, especially when it came to maybe like because I mentioned six in the annals that a pretty good team. I don’t know, can’t can’t take right off hand. How many made the playoffs but the big 10 at a very lot of really solid teams. I don’t think they had the talent level of the SEC actually. I know they don’t because I know the talent on teams, but just having just like really good teams that really were able to compete at a pretty good level and played very well. It was very impressive. A debate ended this year. The most talented team is Ohio State. And that was really the big thing. The other teams just could not keep up with what the horses on Ohio State and, you know, Penn State and Wisconsin are both of extremely good teams. Wisconsin’s making the rose ball, Penn State’s playing in the Cotton Bowl, but when they played last day, you know, it’s the bigger dog. Same with Michigan, it’s going to have a solid season but some good victories but when they played Ohio State data couldn’t keep up. So honestly, it was just on another tear. But I really liked the Penn State, obviously, the big Ten’s year as a whole he’s had a lot of really good teams and I think they’re gonna have a pretty good bowl season. I would expect the big 10 to win a good majority of the bowl games.

Santiago Leon
Kylie Borden. What, what improvements Do you want to see for the big 12 next season?

Unknown Speaker
I think there’s a big 12 obviously continue to build on that defense. It felt like the big 12 took a step forward this year. Whether or not link arrives days we’ll see. So that will be at what I’ll be watching in the big 12 and and Baylor continue to take that next jump. So Nick first year on the mat rule and makes her really like build on that success.

Santiago Leon
Justin, what improvement Do you want to see for Alabama next season

Unknown Speaker
biggest thing is to have a season where there are no injuries, that would be ideal. Definitely would love to see an improvement in our kicking game, you know, most enough, you know, we’ve led the nation, our college football since 2007. The most missed field goals, that’s got to change Alabama also got to improve defensively. I feel like you know, these kids are coming back and have experience under their belt, which is gonna make a big difference. And, and then also to we had the possibility of some key juniors returning to so that’s going to help out tremendously. It’s gonna be interesting to see what happens as far as the quarterback battle goes is Matt Jones going to get Continue to lead the way or will we have Bryce young step in and take over or maybe tilia it’s gonna be interesting. I think it’s going to be an improved Alabama team. Gonna have a much tougher schedule next year. We got we opened up with USC and then two days later we’re going to play in Georgia. So a lot of the complainers won’t be out there like they were this year. But I just want to see the discipline problem be be taken care of. I won’t see the ponies go away. I will see some true growth and maturity happen.

Santiago Leon
Tyler, Oregon obviously loss against Arizona stay there pretty much one game away from the playoffs. What improvements you want to see Oregon for next season.

Unknown Speaker
Um, I mean, this is definitely a good year. I mean, finishing number six. There are preseason number 11, winning the PAC 12. I think Oregon exceeded expectations going into this year. What they need? Well, they’re I mean, I don’t know, I’m not so sure that they’re going to be better next year. Because they lose the four year starter quarterback, they lose four offensive linemen that 100 had that had 153 career starts. Now they do have recruited extremely well, let’s hopefully finish off this cycle with a top 15 class maybe top 10 if we’re lucky, we had a big commitment last night from top 100 for startup on a way and so hopefully we can finish national signing day which is in a week. We can finish strong at the more talented roster. And a lot of the guys that got to play this year, like kayvon tibideaux, the PAC 12 Freshman of the Year. He’s going to be a year older McHale right who was twice to special teams Player of the Year cornerback he’s going to be a year older. Some other defensive guys made Spooner, who’s a second team in sacks was a freshman. So we have a lot of young guys especially on defense. I think the defense will even be better Our next year, which this we’re going to top 10 defense this year. So that to have a better defense is is it’s significant on offense. We lost our offensive coordinator. He’s now the head coach to Novi. So we’re gonna have a new offensive coordinator. We have to replace four out of our five starting offensive lineman now today so the guy coming back is probably going to be a top five tech and we’re going to have to we do have a lot of our skill guys coming back what receivers and running backs but replace and offensive line quarterback and offensive coordinators pretty significant. I think the offense is going to take a little time and the problem is are opening game is against the best team in the FCS North Dakota State I think will be them. But still it’s a terrible team to schedule. And the number second team that we play is Ohio State, which probably there’s a chance they’ll be the defending national champion. So for the offense to have to be better in those two games. That’s a great game to have to better for. So I don’t know if we’re We’re going to have a good season I could definitely see like a nine and three kind of year next year just because they’re replacing a lot of significant pieces on offense. But they do have the talent we Oregon has recruited well and if that defense can play at a real elite level now they could Jackson people win some games and who knows it’s often catch up that it could be another pretty special season, possibly another Pac 12 title at least.

Santiago Leon
I would say Oregon definitely surpassed I mean, I was expecting Oregon to have good season because all the talent coming together herbers you know, his senior season so I didn’t expect that obviously they were having some issues with Arizona state but you know, it is what it is. Anything else before we head into a bowl predictions?

Justin Riley
Now let’s go ahead. Alright, girls rocket.

Santiago Leon
Caillou, we’ll start with you nor Dame vs Iowa State for the camping world bowl

Unknown Speaker
nor name Tyler

Unknown Speaker
Oh norda

Santiago Leon
Justin,

Unknown Speaker
Notre Dame.

Santiago Leon
Penn State vs Memphis for the Cotton Bowl. Caillou

Unknown Speaker
Penn State, james franklin, Penn State,

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley.

Unknown Speaker
I’m gonna go with inside as well. You know, I think Memphis is gonna give them a good game.

Unknown Speaker
Turner.

Unknown Speaker
A lot that goes into these games is what team shows up motivated. I think Memphis will be really motivated a group of five team. I think I said to talented so I’m going to Penn State but I wouldn’t shock me if Memphis pulled it off.

Santiago Leon
Florida versus Virginia. Caillou.

Unknown Speaker
I’m gonna go Florida.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, Nicola Turner.

Unknown Speaker
is way too good. don’t even have shot more than

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I gotta go with the rest of the folks here in Florida. just way too tight. It’d be interesting to see you know which players decide to play which decide to sit for Florida but even so, Florida is way too talented for Virginia.

Santiago Leon
Florida State versus Arizona state the Tony the Tiger sun Bowl tyloo. Air media, Florida State versus Arizona State.

Unknown Speaker
I’m gonna go I’m gonna go he has a squad motivated

Unknown Speaker
Ty Turner

Unknown Speaker
but I’m not gonna be a hater. I’m going to keep it real. I’m going to go.

Unknown Speaker
Arizona State I think Jane Daniels is going to be a pretty good guy. They’re about ready to flip Oregon’s third highest recruit to so I don’t like there’s out there right now.

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley who you got

Unknown Speaker
far say still team and disarray. So I gotta go with Arizona State man. think it’ll be too Much for

Santiago Leon
Caillou Kansas State vs Navy.

Unknown Speaker
I’m gonna go can see. Wow, Turner.

Unknown Speaker
Maybe

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley, Navy.

Unknown Speaker
Wow.

Santiago Leon
Why why Kansas State? Kailua Kona

Unknown Speaker
Okay. Sounds good.

Santiago Leon
Citrus Bowl number. Well, we’ll stick with Justin. First one, Michigan vs. Alabama.

Unknown Speaker
Well, reports that I’m hearing staying to be true and everybody is going to play. Then I’m going to say that Alabama is going to beat Michigan.

Santiago Leon
Tyler Turner, Citrus Bowl.

Unknown Speaker
If Alabama plays everyone and they come out, motivate the I like Dell was a tough one for me to pick because I was like, I thought Michigan Harbaugh needed a signature win and I thought maybe Alabama was gonna have a bunch of guys sitting and wasn’t gonna come out that motivated. But Alabama comes out motivated. I picked them up. But if they don’t, then Michigan that’s a little tough one to predict.

Santiago Leon
It’s a toss up, isn’t it?

Unknown Speaker
I think Alabama’s better but it’s just like, sometimes if a team is projected to make college football playoffs and they end up land in the Citrus Bowl, they just might not come out. Come out. You know,

Santiago Leon
that was a big drop, right Justin? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker
He has a big drop. I think Alabama will be motivated i think that you know, they’re going to be a little pissed off because the way things turned out, but also to you know, Jim Harbaugh balls and run his mouth about Alabama and the SEC as a whole. So I think that Alabama’s gonna be motivated to play and if everybody’s playing that’s a big if I said I feel like Alabama is a better team.

Santiago Leon
I am I will. I’m up For Tyler, Alabama for now, so, but anyways, Kyla Borden, are you gonna struggle with his answer?

Unknown Speaker
No, actually, I actually think that I think Alabama is gonna take them for granted. They’re gonna be upset that they were not. And I’m going to say I’m going to actually pitch in Michigan, I think Alabama’s diverse squad, but I don’t think they’re going to be as motivated as this as they will be financing championship, so I’m gonna say Jim Harbaugh finally gets his signature win, and I’m going to roll with Michigan. I have not heard her Michigan.

Santiago Leon
Wow. Okay.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. rolled on Michigan. Yes.

Santiago Leon
And I’m gonna stick with Caillou. Everyone has kind of said their answer ready, will too. I’ll be back next season.

Unknown Speaker
I don’t think he’ll be back next year because I think it’s a serious injury. And it’s always better even though he has insurance. I think it’s always better to play safe with the hip injury as a lot of you’re comparing to Bo Jackson, but we’ve improved as a matter of modern technologies I think they he’ll be back to sit out and log in to take a stick a second opinion. I definitely think he will be justice is to play safe you always want to play hip interesting.

Santiago Leon
Minnesota vs. Auburn the style will start with Tyler

Unknown Speaker
oh hi Justin think Auburn’s too talented at once again there are a bunch of guys gonna sit out is Derek brown and is Marlon Davison and Nicole gonna sit out and then that possibly even the field but if all those guys play some of them I just don’t have athletes in the front seven I have to go over

Santiago Leon
Riley

Unknown Speaker
I gotta go with all burn. I just don’t think that Minnesota has played a team the caliber of Auburn. The only thing that keeps Minnesota in here is if Bo Nix gives them gifts, which he does tend to do. But I just don’t i don’t think that Minnesota is compelled play. Well, here’s the offer defense. So I’m going over

Santiago Leon
You’re you you hate picking Auburn I can tell

Unknown Speaker
it at all.

Unknown Speaker
It’s like Auburn

Unknown Speaker
I’m not one of those typical sec fans or Alabama fans that you’re not a true Bama fan he goes all over it’s like

Santiago Leon
you know it’s like Tyler picking Arizona State is tough but you know they’re there are going to be Florida State that’s that’s, that’s already given. Caillou Outback Bowl Minnesota gophers vs. Auburn Tigers.

Unknown Speaker
I think it’s gonna be

Unknown Speaker
inconsistent, but I definitely think Auburn’s defensive line is going to be too strong for Minnesota set. I’m gonna go with

Santiago Leon
Justin has to go. Justin what’s the best way to reach you? I think yanked up. Okay, so it just kind of Lou and Tyler Yeah, he had to go head to head of family thing to do. Okay, let’s go into the goodies. Oregon vs Wisconsin. Tyler, who you got

Unknown Speaker
I mean, it’s a really good game. Both teams are more talented roster is Oregon but Wisconsin’s a very good team. They always show up for bowl games and one of the most consistently just good teams of college football and they went 910 games almost every single year. It’s the granddaddy of them all. I like I said, it’s the best game outside of this college football playoff. If Oregon shows up and play like they did against Utah, or play like they did against USC game like that. I think Oregon is better the better athletes, if they don’t, and they do have trouble executing and they’re a little bit inconsistent like they have then and Wisconsin’s a team that they are consistent, they’re going to be there to play and if they’re inconsistent, they will be Oregon. Betting on the left and the former and I’m saying That Oregon comes out extremely focused. represent the PAC 12 Justin Herbert’s last game, all four of those offensive linemen their last game. And I think they win a close game against Wisconsin,

Santiago Leon
and well, everyone will be playing

Unknown Speaker
for the Rose Bowl. Yeah.

Santiago Leon
No one’s sitting out. Yeah, you don’t.

Unknown Speaker
You don’t sit out like you don’t play off and you don’t sit out like the really prestigious bowl game. Yeah.

Santiago Leon
And plus, you gotta pray with that. So, hi, Lou. What do you got between Oregon and Wisconsin in Pasadena?

Unknown Speaker
Agree, I think just our final send off and I think

Santiago Leon
Oregon Wow, there you go. And lastly, Georgia vs. Baylor for the Allstate sugar bowl. Let’s go with Kylo first.

Unknown Speaker
I think Georgia wins this one. I don’t think that they I think Georgia keys this one I think because Jake Brom is in custody. He had some frozen, he missed out some thought early in the game that first throw. It was very catchable ball and then he struggled. It was very tough because his receivers are her and yeah, a lot of players saying but he also missed roles in the beginning of the game that his receivers job throws, he missed throws, and I’ll say Georgia was very banged up. So that really hurt. But I’m actually going to say what, Georgia, they’re coming up with tough loss and Baylor you can see that being very motivated by just think Georgia has better athletes, but who knows? Because George is very banged up right now.

Santiago Leon
Mr. Turner, who do you got? Do you also concur with tyloo?

Unknown Speaker
Um, you know, Baylor’s gonna come out really? I mean, that rolls great college. They’re going to be really on because I mean, they were not projected to at the season. They did and I know they’re going to come out and they’re going to play hard. George Georgia last year, Lily sleep walked into the Sugar Bowl was Texas. will come out. Will they come out and play focused and ready to play? If they do I think Georgia is definitely the more talented roster. I think they have better players. But if they don’t come and the other team does they always going to win at home. I’m a part of me just wondering, Georgia. I’m gonna say Baylor, Baylor I know Baylor’s gonna shop. I know bailers yourself. I’m just not convinced George is gonna show up.

Santiago Leon
Yeah, like you said last year they slept against Texas. So interesting. Yeah, you’re there. random question of the day favorite type of YouTube video. You got between comedy education, education, music and sports. Kylie, what is your favorite?

Unknown Speaker
Music I really love music, music, big entertainment.

Unknown Speaker
Education or sports. Okay, well, their political or, or philosophical or

Santiago Leon
music is winning 38% Comedy 25 tiwa sports with 25% in education is last at 13% you go on twitter.com forward slash the sports cast one devote Tyler give us a quick early like what’s going on with the recruiting end of things I know early signing days next week but any developments that we should know now

Unknown Speaker
obviously who I follow the closest is Oregon that the number 16 ranked class they have a couple guys who I think are going to actually sweat Deacon net from them on a couple of our high rated guys but they’re in on five stars Kaylee Ringo a five star off the girl or Arizona Justin flow a five star out of upland California top 104 star Dante Manning and they’re spoiled fully and

Unknown Speaker
today

Unknown Speaker
what a whatever his name is.

Unknown Speaker
He Was Ashford he was old math four star commit and he’s taken an official to Oregon this weekend. And then supposedly some of the Intel some some of the moderators in Oregon and even national for seven national director Steve Wolf and there’s some guy that the high rated four star that I think is sneaking into Oregon and might flip so I don’t know who it is. So if they get a couple of those flips, it would make up for the players they lost. I’m thinking this is early signing period. You also have the regular signing period at the first week in February. I think Oregon lands about top 15 probably in that round 1415 range. I don’t think it’s near as good a class as last year, which was temper seven. Who’s going to do really well, Alabama, LSU, and Clemson are all battling for number one. Alabama’s able to land some of these guys that they’re in on down the stretch. I think they’ve for the fifth time in the last six years will land the number one class. clemson had a very high ranking class they six five stars that they land Justin flow. They’ll have seven five stars in this class, which is an impressive run. And LSU is up there. Ohio State another team if they can land CJ strode, they’ll be up there in the top four. And yeah, definitely say the top you have the top four teams battling for the number one spot LSU Alabama, Clemson in Ohio State, Georgia still has enough big names on the plate to possibly get in the top five. But then when you get to that next group, they’re all kind of muddled together. Michigan, Notre Dame, Washington, North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Texas a&m, all those teams. It could be like six to 17 but they’re all within a pretty close range and composite points. So my team to watch for to finish first I think will be Alabama. And I hope my ducks are able to land a couple of these guys and get into the top 15 maybe it’s a really lucky top 10 any surprises so far? Who has a free class with the what what school that normally does not have a really good class? That’s a good one. Correct. Um, North Carolina, they have the number 17 class. They’re trending for composite top 50 for Star Trek and Simpson. I think they will land at least in the top 20 maybe the top 15 obviously they have you know, not been very good for years and so that’s extremely good class for Mack Brown. Other than that, it’s kind of the status quo I mean, name the Blue Bloods in their in their I mean, you know, teams outside of Those there’s just not really no I wouldn’t Arizona state as a team to kind of watch. Like I said they might slip Johnny Wilson who’s committed to Oregon. They’re also trending for a couple other receivers. alijah badger for Star Lovett what bunkley Shelton. He’s a four star Daniel Niigata, top 100 All Purpose back if they are able to land all those guys, and they’re they’re actually the favorite. According to the crystal ball, they could land a top 20 class for Arizona State. That’s very, very good. So Arizona State North Carolina are probably the two teams that you normally don’t see. Like for instance, when I have my top 25 team talent formula, North Carolina and Arizona State do not have top 25 talent. So for them to land top 20 classes is very impressive. It whereas you want to see a disappointing team USC as the number five most talents core to my team talent formula number four according to Teen Challenge composite they currently have the number 76 ranked class in the nation. That’s right they have group of five teams like Boise State at better glasses than that right now. So unless so unless you see now I think they will close on some guys near probably ultimately land the top maybe 35 class that’s still horrible for you at See you in season four is for having Yeah, that’s us. You know it’s Taurus. We’re having top five top 10 glasses so you won’t see the disappointment. Florida State might not land the top 25 class obviously there that’s disappointing for a team like Florida State on another team that’s probably been disappointing is

Unknown Speaker
that’s about it. Florida State and the USC

Unknown Speaker
USC are not doing very good right

Unknown Speaker
now reflect it’s all

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so it’s very reflective. But those are the two most disappointed. North Carolina and Arizona state are probably going to happy the underrated teams with better classes than normal.

Santiago Leon
And there you have it. Tyler will keep us up to date and nice come up next upcoming days, actually, because the early signing is next week and a failure is the right but a lot of stuff will be nailed down by next week. Right? Is that like majority or or they’ll be a lot more in February.

Unknown Speaker
Oh, well, it depends. Last year, I think 80% signed in the early signing period of PSAPs. This year, I’d say it’s pretty similar good chunk, I would say about four, four fifths of the classes. So let’s say for instance, statical. Let’s say Oregon has 23 guys committed if they have about 20 sign, they had probably only signed four or five more in late signing period. So if you have a top I don’t know what’s a 15 class, you’re probably going to land somewhere near there. Um, so you’re not going to make that much movement in the late signing period. Like Like last year, there wasn’t really that many teams that were like way outside that all of a sudden jumped way out. It’s kind of going to be whatever your class ranks at the end of the early signing period. You might have a little movement forward but it’s not gonna be anything drastic.

Santiago Leon
There you have it. We’ll go to the sports cast off for the latest sports cast.net Caillou big news for the Yankees. They get Gerrit Cole for 320 $4 million over nine years. Are you pretty happy about that?

Unknown Speaker
I am the real sad angry This is the biggest free agent Bridget ageism sign since last year it’s not get it passed on Patrick korbin they drafted Garrick all he went to UCLA comes from very affluent families I went to UCLA money was obviously that is your friend grew up in Newport, California. Angels were interested in they tried to trade for him at the pirates when he’s on a pirates Obviously they took the asset package is terrific Yankees again one of the best pitches. Is that the best pitcher in baseball, I think he’s the best 326 strikeouts to 50 already last year. Terrific players sell short, but it’s a terrific sign for the New York Yankees that goes along with Severino they could slot to not get the three, passionate the four and some kind of combination of Montgomery and we’ll see what happened to him on suspension. But it’s terrific for the 80s he joined the court glaber Torres. Aaron judge, I’m Carl Stan. setting is a terrific move for the eight games. You get a frontline starter, and Garrett Cole. I think it works. Maybe at the back end of the contract, it would be at the back end of the contract. It typically doesn’t hold up I like David Price. But if you maximize the first five years he has an opt out after five years. But how about being a Star Wars agent on the Anthony and don’t see Rashad Berg. And now Garrett Cole. He’s made 114 million off combined those players and it’s just been a real Really good time for Garrett Cole as the anchor and also Scott boys being his agent borders Corp.

Santiago Leon
And real quick is Rendon good for the angels.

Unknown Speaker
I think Brendan is great range. I think it’s a terrific Move back. Yeah, I was I’m in early runnings very early in the offseason but I think they’re in the running for Al wildcards very good. I still think they need some pictures for us on the market but I still didn’t make a pick up some blue chip pictures. So we’ll see what that wheelers done. I would like that for him but he’s gone to Philly so they can pick up some blue chip which I still think they need two to three pitchers because their rotation is bare. But what a lineup of Rendon Otani coming back he’s one in their start and stilted they need two more starters. But what a lineup of trout, Rendon Otani 234 or some kind of combination. I think they can make it work. I still think they’re two starters short, but I think if they get to blue chip stars, I think they can possibly make a run at the wild card and we’ll see what happens what Major League Baseball does. The acids in the investigation that could obviously play a factor between them winning division with athletics, if dependency stuff like people think it is, and like Major League Baseball saying, we’ll see what happens with that maybe they win the division. Maybe the zoom call is going to be very huge, but they still have Verlander and his dad were great offerings and we should see what happens with the bouncy but I think the angel is good obviously. I think it’s a really good signing. Jonah already Marino’s not cheap. So I think it’s a really really good sign for him but I still think they’re pitching away. And there you have it. baseball and football on a wrap. Ty Turner what is the best way to reach you to talk to you about the Rose Bowl? Turner.

Santiago Leon
Caillou, what is the best way to reach you to talk about the angels. They can reach me

Unknown Speaker
on Twitter and Instagram.

Santiago Leon
And there you have it. You can reach at the sports cast one on Twitter or on the sports cast one. Stay up to date sports goes through Christmas. We’ll have we’ll have tighter next week to talk a little bit extensively what’s going on with recruiting with a lot will be revealed next week. And of course, Kyla will be following along with Major League Baseball, NFL. And of course NBA will probably have Jeff far hopefully tomorrow to see what’s going on in FL tonight. Jets play the Ravens so we’ll see how that goes. Lamar Jackson is playing a little bit hurt but I think he’ll be fine. Anyways guys, I appreciate you guys very much coming on to the Big Show.

Unknown Speaker
Okay, thank you.

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