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Episode #195: Should the NBA Season Be Cancelled?

Even though the current NBA season is still technically suspended due to the coronavirus pandemic, its return this year seems less and less likely with each passing day.

Team executives are starting to feel the pressure, frustrated with the lack of information from the league and pushing for an outright cancellation of the season so everyone can focus on safely resuming play next season.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/nba-team-execs-agents-are-calling-on-the-league-to-cancel-season.html

Brett Favre: Aaron Rodgers feels like the odd man out
Rodgers spoke to his Green Bay predecessor, Brett Favre, and Favre then made multiple radio appearances on Wednesday. His comments to Rich Eisen were noted here; Favre also did a regular spot on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

“Aaron and I have a great relationship, and we talked about it,” Favre told Bruce Murray and Brady Quinn. “Obviously, he’s a little disappointed.”

Favre remained careful not to share many details about their discussion, but it’s hard not to conclude that Favre’s opinions on the subject were shaped by his conversation with Rodgers. And from that conversation came a key theme: Disrespect.

“To me, the word ‘disrespect’ I think is perfect,” Favre said. “That’s the message that it sends to Aaron.”

Green Bay Packers 2020 draft picks
ROUND OVERALL PLAYER SELECTED
1 26* QB Jordan Love, Utah State
2 62 RB A.J. Dillon, Boston College
3 94 TE Josiah Deguara, Cincinnati
5 175 LB Kamal Martin, Minnesota
6 192* OL Jon Runyan, Michigan
6 208* C Jake Hanson, Oregon
6 209 OT Simon Stepaniak, Indiana
7 236* S Vernon Scott, TCU
7 242* EDGE Jonathan Garvin, Miami

ROUNDOVERALLPLAYERSchool
126Jordan LoveUtah State
262AJ DillonBoston College
394Josiah DeguaraCincinatti
5175Kamal MartinMinnesota
6192Jon RunyanMichigan
6208Jake HansonOregon
6209Simon StepaniakIndiana
7236Vernon ScottTCU
7242Jonathan GarvinMiami

Transcript

Santiago Leon
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Caillou Borden
Appreciate it as always.

Santiago Leon
Hulu NBA season was suspended back in March. You know Rudy gobert guy was the first victim of the Coronavirus in the NBA. And now we’re in May, obviously, Adam Silver said no decisions will be made until this month. Some executives that Mark Cuban is thinking are thinking about cancel it. What are your thoughts?

Caillou Borden
I think it’s gonna be really, really hard to play especially when the public doesn’t have the adequate test that they have. Congress doesn’t have the test that they need. The general public doesn’t have the test they need 15,000 tests it’s gonna be really, really hard to get. I’m hopeful that their games as a fan of the sport, but it’s gonna be really really hard for them to be able to play and be a game.

Santiago Leon
NBA team executives and players agents spoke to CNBC yesterday. In recent weeks about the challenges and resuming play. They say team owners are concerned with liability issues and are conflicted about whether or not to give up on the current season. The individual spoke on condition of anonymous as it aren’t authorized to discuss legal matters publicly, billions of dollars are on the line if the if the NBA can’t rescue its season NBA team splits the roughly $2 billion dollars per year and national TV money the NBA receives from ESPN and Turner sports, but clubs also gain revenue. Local media deals with regional sports news. How much of an impact would this be economically for the NBA?

Caillou Borden
I think it’s going to be huge because there was an ESPN people how sports contributes so much to the economy. There was thinking about all the stores that are owned next team facilities that are owned by regular fans that support the team’s product. So that’s going to be lost even though television revenues great. A lot of it’s based on, like how many people come to games and like, yeah, the big market teams are gonna be fun to build. But some of the small market teams still have to pay their players and some of those teams are really going to struggle.

Santiago Leon
What was the pay cut? The NBA players were gonna get I think by May 15 was it I 15 or 25%.

Caillou Borden
I think it was the players. The players are great too. So in the CBA they have something called it’s like war something Norris like a special circumstance. The only way to withhold money I think they can either structure restructuring To the contract next year, or I think the money is lost at the planning of the players want to pay. And keep in mind, I’ve got 90% in salary, so

Santiago Leon
yeah, yeah, it’s, uh, so far. It’s been good. I think like their last big paycheck was April 15. I didn’t get paid monthly, right?

Caillou Borden
Yeah, they get paid the first and the 15th of every muffin and no play. Oh

Santiago Leon
yeah, the last one on April 15 was not that bad. I think they got the full paycheck. And a lot of these players have endorsement deals. And, and a lot of them have contributed to pain, a pain. The Rena workers, um, I believe almost every team, like has a player or the front office has paid like the arena workers, right?

Caillou Borden
Yeah, pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah. Most of them is played them at least to the end of April, something into may and some to the end of the rest of the semester.

Santiago Leon
Another alternative that Adam Silver’s brought up was to have a smaller tournament or a smaller playoffs to play. Well haven’t played in Orlando or in Las Vegas. What do you think about that format?

Caillou Borden
I think it’s great. But at all the format, especially with the lack of testing, and like, some of the coaches like Terry stars, Greg popper is over 60 assists. It’s gonna be really hard for the MVP. I mean, a lot can change. But seeing the amount of people that can’t get tested, and seeing him out, he was like, it was one thing when the NBA got tested, originally, Rudy go burn down vigil. That was about 5050 tests, but to get 15,000 tests and the lack of the lack of testing by the government and the lack of testing by both regular citizens is really going to be hard in the NBA players are gonna have to be away from their family for three months. And if I’m going to hawks, what’s the answer? For me to come back if my seasons already over Yeah, I love basketball. But, I mean, what’s the incentive for you to really come back if you season? I don’t know if you saw what’s the current date basically, you know, contend that the season’s over on the NBA on the comeback. They’re gonna come back but they already had egged me in basically suggesting that the season’s over. So

Santiago Leon
what was the kind of stiff curve made this week? I heard Steve was saying that the front office was acting like the season was over. Yeah. And well, yeah, it was kind of it was kind of intriguing to hear that. But I guess the only question to come by like the only reason is to determine a NBA champion. Do you think that’s a good reason?

Caillou Borden
No, I think it’s great. I think it’s great for the playoff teams like LeBron James, I want to come back for the playoff team. It says you know the NBA You know, I think it’s sick out of reach 70 games to get the local television revenue that they get from the TV deals with the local nine ESPN and TNT because those are guaranteed, but they got to reach 70 games to get those money for The local revenue and it’s a lot for the cities, you also got it back then as well. For you to get the other players to come back and the players not going to want to just go straight to the players, there’s one thing to be in shape, but it’s another completely different thing to be off since March 11. And actually go out there and apply as you increase the rate of injury, not going to be a perfect situation. But if you just come back and go straight to the playoffs, you’re basically increasing the odds of players getting hurt. Because players haven’t played at three months. There’s some players that say they haven’t shot a basketball in three months. So that’s a little concerning if you just go straight to the plant and I just think that’s the best course of being able to come back.

Santiago Leon
This is what I would do. I will take a month like this month of May, every player will have a month to train right now. Either to have like the top eight of each conference play in the playoffs or tournament wherever you want to call it in June. be played in a row. Lando, or Vegas or an A thing I believe one of the options was Bahamas, we think about, like we think about my proposition.

Caillou Borden
I think it makes sense, but where where it thinks is that you’re gonna have a bunch of people calling to us today in Orlando and I just think it’s gonna be really really hard as

Santiago Leon
no fans. No fans allowed.

Caillou Borden
Justin I know I know there’s no I know there’s no fans, but it’s gonna be hard because the NBA has a lot of people. There’s a lot of coaches over 60 and I just think that free MBA as they go on, even though they want the season cuz then there’s just a lot of logistics. I mean, you got to have the coaches, they have a support staff. You got to have the hotels there. You need league officials there. The NBA pa has to be there. She’s over 60 so she automatically has to get tested. I don’t know how they’re going to get tests from the government when it’s just aren’t that many tests ago. So it’s just gonna be really hard, you got have a lot of tests, with the embryos talking about 15,000 tests. And I just don’t know how the public I mean me as a private entity, but I just don’t understand how the embryo is gonna be able to get that many amount of tests. Well MBA, it contains an

Santiago Leon
NBA, and it’s teams could pull it could pay for those tests. I know there’s a lot of testing kits that you could get, you’re gonna find out in 15 minutes or less. I’m obviously like, Davy has invested in it and obviously get those machines out there. But you were saying about hotels, Orlando. in Vegas. They both have hotels. I mean, they got plenty of hotels and plenty of room, especially in Disney when no one’s there.

Caillou Borden
No, I’m not saying there’s not room. But I’m saying, you know, there’s always a situation what players that, you know, you can’t account for, you know, let’s say a player’s family member gets sick. You have to you’d have to God there, they have to go home, not have to get tested when they come back. If they already said I’m sure was not going to take away It says, For when health residents can’t get tested, it’s just it’s hard pressed for them to be able to take a test away from people that can’t get it. So the tests are going to have to get ramped up to scale. I would think the MBA to think about coming back, Caillou,

Santiago Leon
if you have a chance, please. kreger reception. I’m not sure if he’s sending a window or something. Um, back to the MBA. What has the Bron James said, I heard something that he says. I mean, he wants to add like this isn’t concluded.

Caillou Borden
I think that LeBron James wants to come back because I’ve always said he has three to four more prime years left in him. We’ll look we’ll blog any sentence. He’s 35. He’s in a 17 year, the Lakers have a second best record. Him and Anthony Davis have been Joe in the well this year. Danny green to veterans Dwight Howard’s been revenge from the first thing and god knows what happened the first day. I keep talking about that. But, I mean, it’s a situation where the Bron realizes he has, you know, years ahead of him, you know, he has, you know, less years ahead of him. He’s 35 years old, he just senses the opportunity. There’s a special team that he has with the Lakers. second best of luck in the league. He doesn’t want this year cancer of games can be played.

Santiago Leon
something to definitely look at. Sounds like LeBron wants to come back. But in a perfect world Kylo if we had all the testing, what location you want to see this little mini playoff tournament? Vegas, Orlando or at the Bahamas?

Caillou Borden
I don’t care where it’s played personally. I just hope that I don’t care where it’s great Personally, I rather games deployed so I don’t care where it’s played personally. Orlando would be great at ESPN has a complex there but and Vegas will be great. breakups will be great too in a normal circumstance. We’re looking at it now based on the model cases I would say Orlando

Santiago Leon
I will say Orlando i think i believe i mean i don’t want to go into like which state has the most cases but I think Orlando feels like calmer versus Vegas feels like a little bit too busy like could happen there a lot of damage but I will I like to have a thing MBA anyways. Well, please follow us on the sports cast net to figure out what’s gonna happen with Adam Silver. I know he’ll make some announcements this week or next week. So we’ll definitely keep you guys up to date what happens because this has to this has to be concluded. It could come to a point where this season is totally disbanded Ligue one and Europe which is a a French like, like have like this huge French, like up in France soccer. They’ve canceled their league. The Chinese, like CBA has not resumed The KBL has been at all so this is pretty interesting. Football is a few months I don’t see football canceling. What do you think?

Caillou Borden
And he’s think that I don’t think that football was he can’t do but they do have a contingency plan to not have any buys not have the Super Bowl. I don’t fit these, you know, to be honest with you, I love sports, but like, I don’t think these leagues really have a choice. I think you got to just follow the health professional rajic and doesn’t want to cancer. And it’s one thing with the drop, have all your plays and things. But just like the NBA, even though the players who train on their own, they’re not allowed to practice one, four or five on five. So you got to get the team back. Eventually you got to have some kind of training camp for the NFL, and how are you going to get players that all that training camp and delete? Yeah, they’re being paid a lot of money, but how are you going to get them leave their families. I mean football with no fan that you know, sounds great, but the owners are not going to want that. And I don’t know how you get called football players to play it. You know especially when they’re not being you know paid but that’s another thing but you know it’s gonna be hard for the NFL to play but they got it going as planned now, but it’s gonna be hard for them to play and in the fall

Santiago Leon
sticking with football Jaguars are they have signed former redskin Chris Thompson runningback What are your thoughts about that?

Caillou Borden
I think it’s good for the Jaguars their quarterback is going to go under Mitchell so maybe they could have like a one two punch there something like that. But I don’t really expect big things that team because the Jaguars is just not really well managed.

Santiago Leon
We think about Cam Newton going the Jaguars Do you think that’s a big possibility?

Caillou Borden
I just don’t see the fit for cam I mean, I don’t really see the fit personally for cam and Jacksonville garden and Mitchard there. I don’t really see if they would want to do that. They seem to like Garner mentioned they bring in Nick foles then it will Garner mental I just don’t see the fit for cam and Jackson because I don’t think that’s a roster ready to win now and I don’t think that cam is going to be willing to go to a roster that’s not willing to win now unless he’s just wants the money Then

Santiago Leon
how about Andy Dalton to Jacksonville

Caillou Borden
I don’t really see the fit there. I mean, he got released by the Bengals after a couple playoff runs. Last year they saw it obviously but I don’t really see the fit in Jacksonville. I just think that we don’t in our garden images go. I just think they need to build around Gardner Mitchell’s growth, either be all in with Gardner Mitchell, or just drop the quarterback next year. That’s pretty good quarterback next year coming out. So they have to just stick with Gardner Mitchell. And they’re not gonna be very good this year. So stick with john Mitchell and see what they can

Santiago Leon
garner Minshew. I mean, I’ve been hearing some mixed signals from Jacksonville that Gardner’s not the man. Do you think he is the man or think he needs one more season to prove everyone that he is the man

Caillou Borden
I think if he’s not demand they’re going to be in the market next year for Trevor Lawrence and Justin fields. I don’t think they’re going to be very good this year because their division improve. The Colts got better they added the force Wagner which is going to help your defense. They got Phillip rivers there, he’s going to be their guide so they get another quarterback, the tection should we solid, the Titans are coming off the AFC Championship game, they’re gonna bump down a bit, but that division is going to be competitive. So definitely was going to be the worst team in the division. They’re going to be picking the top three or four next year and they’re going to have the chance at the quarterback if they don’t like Gardner Mitchell,

Santiago Leon
Cam Newton to the Patriots. How How does that sound for you?

Caillou Borden
I know that Patriots are doing it I think that they’re going to stay with the quarterback that they have. I don’t think that they’re going to do it. I think their quarterback is very unproven. They have now tested them. But I think that i think that’s all smokescreen graded by the media. I do personally think they’re going to stay with the quarterback. They have bus. They’re going to you know cramp and they don’t really like the quarterback but I think they Gotta stay. Also don’t forget about Brian

Santiago Leon
Hoyer. I mean, he’s there. I mean he could start.

Caillou Borden
I would be hard pressed to think that Jerry sued him. Maybe he can lose the job of Brian Horry. But I think that job is gonna be I think that job is gonna be one ultimately I just sit him. I didn’t get caught. Nobody is gonna look for Brian with a poster soon, but I think he should be able to win the job.

Santiago Leon
Let’s go in the Packers draft NFL draft was what like was this past weekend? The biggest pick of the weekend was Jordan love to to the Green Bay Packers. Um, hi, Lou. Tell me I know it’s been a few days that you had a Maronite this and digested. What are your thoughts as of today?

Caillou Borden
I thought it was really good to practice big Jordan love crushing Green Bay but Aaron Rodgers attack to collarbone injuries last three years. He went 13 and three last year was really good for the team. I still think he has a couple years you know ahead of him what’s the situation with Green Bay saw the opportunity I don’t think it should be a negative Aaron Rodgers he’s not going to replace him right away he can sit there and learn from him. That’s going to be great for doing love to get there to learn from Aaron Rodgers. So I just think that it’s a situation where Green Bay saw that they can get their future in three years if he grows to develop early Green Bay could always train him there’s gonna be plenty of teams that’s going to need a quarterback coming up five or six teams always in the first quarter. We go straight for something we need. Get a suit. Why to that? And if and if and if and if Aaron and Aaron Rodgers doesn’t play well, we can always have Archie’s dresser, but I was more disappointed. groobie didn’t the least try to get another receiver find davante Adams, out of all seven rounds. That was a little positive.

Santiago Leon
Brett Farve was interviewed on the rich Eisen show this past week, and he was saying He said Aaron and I have a great relationship and we’ve talked about it. Obviously he’s a little disappointed. Um, and he said, like the like the whole conversation that he got out Aaron was the word disrespect and Farfetch. So is the message that it sends to Aaron. What are your thoughts about Fox comments? And do you really think Aaron Rodgers is disappointed over this? This whole Jordan love pic?

Caillou Borden
I don’t think that he’s disappointed over the joy in love cake. I think it’s more disappointing that I’ve all set around. They basically let 30 receivers go ahead of analog, an average after receiving since 2005. They’ve had really good success with second round receivers, in particular davante Adams in the second round, and they’ve had success with Randall Cobb, also Jordy Nelson of the list goes on Donald driver. They’ve had really good success with draft in the second round. And as we show Organizational scouting where you get first opt out and the second round, but it was more disappointing that they didn’t get a receiver at all in the draft. They let receiver after receiving go even in the second round. I don’t think airlines disappoint with the joy of love but I think what he has more of a gripe is where they just you know, out of every seven all seven rounds, they didn’t address the receipt revision at all number two receiver at all while they let before nine is load up and that’s not the position but they let the four nine is get another receiver and Trent Williams and you just lost them NFC Championship game and you didn’t adjust the receive position behind davante Adams. So I don’t think he’s upset about the joy and love thing more to do that the Packers didn’t address that second guy would be

Santiago Leon
I would have not been disappointed. I think Aaron Rodgers needs to understand. He’s 36 and like you were saying to collarbone injuries. I mean, he Yes, he could play till he’s 42 but there is some red flags. You know, there’s things I slow down his game and I like a very past years and he’s injury prone. So he should not be disappointed things it’s gonna happen. Could Greenberg could have waited like till next year or like two years to make that pick, Caillou

Caillou Borden
know because they were saying, as a quarterback quarterback you really love you just got to go on the market and get it if your quarterbacks 36 and he’s had two injuries in the last three years at Green Bay, you know, no hard feelings the National Football League, the NBA where the MBAs you know you can have one more year which require you like them like they they would cobija bringing back celebratory, that’s all fine, but the National Football League you have a hard cap and he’s ending don’t end beautifully in football. We see this all the time. You don’t get the any like payment when you go in a Super Bowl. So I just think it’s green bay feeling like they really love Jordan love. Maybe they could grow Mumbai and ride for two or three years. He’s ready before that they could trade for something they really need. And if he’s not, and if Iran still continues to play while then still being a super hot

Santiago Leon
I do agree with Kai Luna Phil is not for long. It’s different. Your your years go by really quick and 36 it’s a it’s time to look ahead here where the Green Bay picks this past weekend Jordan love course was a first and then a 62nd round they got ready to back AJ Dillon. The guy Josiah the Gara from Cincinnati, Kemal Martin. He’s a linebacker a festive line Jon Runyan. Senator Jake Hansen from Oregon. offensive tackle sets Hyman siphon Nick from Indiana. Verna Scott TCU and edge rusher Jonathan. Garvin know receivers Kyler worried thoughts about over these pics?

Caillou Borden
I thought it was a little question was second row eight Deal. I like them. They’re he’s more of a physical bruiser. He has really, really good speed and tremendous upside. But we have Aaron Jones he had a breakout year last year. And our running back Jamal Adams gauge is ineffective in short yards and we need a maybe a bruiser back. But right there, it’s just questionable that they didn’t trigger and also they could have taken off into line. We lost Brian Bulava. I know we added Rick Wagner, but they could have took it they could have took a wire received with their they were playing on the board. They also could have took an offensive line. I mean, they took an inside linebacker and Kemal Martin, but they were better linebackers that felt that they could have took a loss Blake Martinez and free agency. So as a little question of why they didn’t address our business, like why receiver they didn’t just the offensive line right tackle and they could have got some more team speed but it was overall a very blue collar drive. And if I had to give it a letter grade A b a c plus bought that. That’s it.

Santiago Leon
That’s not what it says like a million scores. I mean, they passed but didn’t get the B or A, which which y receiver a Will you have picked for Green Bay?

Caillou Borden
I mean I don’t remember right now because the thing but I would have definitely taken establish number two’s ready to come in and out Green Bay right now because coming up the NFC Championship game, there’s only so many bites at the apple F. I mean, like we said before, like and Raj is you know, 36 and even if I don’t think he’s gonna be falling off anytime soon, he had a good year last year, and I still think he has three to four more years, but the energy is getting better the cow was at Stevie Milam. The fortnight has got better Trent wins is a huge addition. They lost you’re stealing retirement they are Trent Williams which is really huge for them. And Seattle though they Russell wasn’t there was competitive. Minnesota is right in your division sizes think as a situation where even with the extra playoff team There’s a lot of teams in the NFC that’s gonna be competing and you only have so many bites at the apple. So if you’re Green Bay, you have to have that sense of urgency for your quarterback.

Santiago Leon
Who do you think will start for Chicago? false or true Biscay?

Caillou Borden
I think Nick foles the person gonna start? I think I think Maggie’s hoping that Mr. burski gets pushed by Nick foles. And Mitch to basically ends up winning the job. So some fire in the show a little bit more competitive edge or a little more chip themselves. bracketing Nick foles is going to ultimately win the job. I don’t think he’s going there to be a backup, Nick foles and won four playoff games since 2017. I think the bears have one sec. So Nick foles is definitely going to start and I’m putting my money on Nick foles to start that job

Santiago Leon
with bears Packers in Minnesota who win the AFC North.

Caillou Borden
I’m staying with Green Bay I mean 33 last year, the dairy Smith pricing Smith made a really tremendous impact on our defense, current positions they went on to against the green Get passes last year, I think it comes down to head to head. The lines of far off. I think my projection will probably fire this year, because I don’t think they’re going to be good enough in a division. I think the bears are going to be around. You know, it’s early. We have a lot of time but I think the bears would be finish around five. The Vikings will win around 10 games. I think Green Bay went out 12 and I think you’ll come down to head to head Kirk Cousins against air Rogers. Those games NFC north and the entities usually come down to head to head games. And that’s where I gave green radiates to head to head battle.

Santiago Leon
Lions chose akuto center cornerback you think that was already paid for them?

Caillou Borden
No, I think it’s a I think it’s I think it’s a great bit. I think he’s the best corners drive. I just don’t think that the Lions have a lot around them. I think Matthew Stafford is going to have a terrific bounce back here. But outside of a CUDA and outside of Matthew Stafford I just don’t think there’s much there. Mathematicians gonna have the pressure of when and because then vigil with the Vikings who beat this ain’t last year in the walker game. Green Bay won 13 games. Maybe they come down a little bit like 11 wins 12 wins. The Bears are gonna eat an eight. I don’t know how much wins it needs Alliance, but it’s not going to lead to many and I think Matt petitioner probably is going to be x at the end of this year.

Santiago Leon
Too bad. I’m a big Matt Patricia fan Kylo.

Caillou Borden
But why patriots?

Santiago Leon
He, he was a good defensive coordinator. But some people say Belichick was really the defensive coordinator.

Caillou Borden
Most of the coaches from knowing that workout. If you’re looking at staff, you got to go to Andy Reid, Matt naggy those go to the injury. Most of those tech staff don’t end up working out because instead of trying to take you know, they Emily Bo tech so much, which is really good, but they don’t try to be their own personality. So 1.0 tech staff sadly don’t end up working out.

Santiago Leon
Good point and we’ll see how the Giants coach does He’s from New England. Okay,

Caillou Borden
yes, special teams

Santiago Leon
lastly the last dance I know you are now around you’re born after when Michael Jordan was with the bowls What are your thoughts so far after four episodes?

Caillou Borden
I thought the first episode first two episodes. They were a little hard on Jared Kraus they may have his race smart says the short jokes I have no problem with it. So jokes will sometimes make those jokes every now and then. Oh, it was worse harsh on him. In beginning of the episode it’s all fun and games but they were a little harsh on him in the first two episodes, and which made me more painful. He’s not really here to defend himself I mean dead so they were a little harsh on him in the first few episodes that for like a my opinion. It was great to see Michael Jordan so well to win in the first four results. And you know, you know, everybody So three It was really eye opening Dennis Rodman was allowed to go to Vegas in the middle of season where it just shows you how much has changed from back then to today. I mean, if you do that today, I mean even if the 15 man you know that that today there will be a story and not to always compare things to like today for watching that made me think wow, Dennis Rodman was able to do a lot. I mean, he’s a great player, terrific rebounder, well watching that, you know, made me feel like man players today really, really go through a lot and it was just great to see joins, will to win. And we’re stuck out to me was with Dennis Rodman they would do in Episode Three.

Santiago Leon
I do agree they did went hard on Jerry Kraus on the first two episodes. And then of course, Dennis Rodman is still the show. This past weekend. This weekend will be about Steve Kerr. What are you looking forward to it?

Caillou Borden
I’m looking forward to continue to see Michael Jordan’s world. The win. Continue to see Phil Jackson and how that develops as an array and to see if not on on

Santiago Leon
Lou I’m losing you York receptions not good i think i loo is gone less back in because I need to finish the show strong with him. We’re talking about the last dance how great it was. How it’s one of the best series so far in basketball. Maybe the best I can say movie Best Documentary. Looking forward, Caillou.

Caillou Borden
Yeah, but

Santiago Leon
we had to restart that phone call anyways. Yes, finishing. Okay, last dance. Give us your last sentence of where you’re looking forward to this weekend in the last dance.

Caillou Borden
Looking forward to seeing how phil jackson continues to like develop how he can be portrayed. Seeing more Michael Jordan’s was a win. So those are the two things I’m looking forward to.

Santiago Leon
So definitely look at I’m really enjoying it. I think every episode so far has been really good, really surprising. Some new chunks and I’d like to hear Michael Wilbon afterwards talk about I knew about that, but I couldn’t report on it. So

Caillou Borden
yeah,

Santiago Leon
sure. It’s quite interesting how things are kind of coming out but it is one of the most exciting things and sports going on with with the NFL draft and keeping us in joyful mode or sports mode. Hopefully something will change this month. I know NASCAR is coming back this month. And I think a golf tournament might be back. You remember but anyways, random question, Caillou. Who? Who is better oj Howard or Eric ebron.

Caillou Borden
Um, I would take oj Howard

Santiago Leon
oj Howard 160 7% to Eric ebron 32% typically doesn’t have a running back don’t they don’t have good running backs.

Caillou Borden
Yeah, Tampa Bay could definitely do a little better. Yeah, I’m glad to bring it up because Tampa Bay could do a little better just in the running back condition. Maybe possible left spofford letter for net happy in Jacksonville. Rock for him there in Tampa.

Santiago Leon
That would be good. That’d be a good pickup. I could see that happening. Caillou.

Caillou Borden
Especially Yeah, what Tom Brady knows weapons I could definitely see that.

Santiago Leon
Because he has plenty people to throw to you can’t they’re all game.

Caillou Borden
Yeah, true.

Santiago Leon
Kelly, what is the best way to reach you to talk to you about Dennis Rodman

Caillou Borden
Baker reach me at Chi you born on 12 and rest in peace to GG

Santiago Leon
Yes. g Yeah. GG is Toby’s daughter. Yeah, call me that her birthday was today is turning on Twitter. Wasn’t the last dance. Have you seen some parallels with Michael Jordan and Kobe a little bit?

Caillou Borden
Yeah, a lot of parallels the moves are so identical and minus, you know, five versus six. The moves are so identical and the way they talk the way they think it’s just so identical to do well to just be great at everything that you touch. While it’s Michael Jordan playing cards and getting his teammates to you know what, what he did were rookies. Yeah, just the competitive nature and just how to be great at everything was really really good.

Santiago Leon
Scottie Pippen will would agree with you as well. You can reach us at the sports cast dotnet the sports cast dotnet or at the sports cast one there’s a lot of free agency moves going on with the NFL a lot of the draft is away now some like the remainder players are trying to get signed. Look out for Andy Dalton and Cam Newton two big big name quarterbacks jameis Winston got signed before those two So Jays wisdom was smart even though Jan Weston got off for some bigger contracts. I believe the Steelers I was hearing But well, we’ll partner find out for sure. And always stay up to date. Caillou Borden. You are. You are the man. Thanks for coming on to the sports cast.

Caillou Borden
Thank you, as always

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