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Episode #213: Interview with Coach Bill Curry

Bill Curry is a retired American football coach and former player.

Most recently, Curry was the head coach at Georgia State University, which began competing in college football in 2010. Previously, Curry served as the head football coach at the Georgia Institute of Technology (1980–1986), the University of Alabama (1987–1989), and the University of Kentucky (1990–1996). Between coaching jobs at Kentucky and Georgia State, Curry was a football analyst for ESPN.

He played football at Georgia Tech (1962–1964) and then played for ten seasons in the National Football League (NFL) with four teams: the Green Bay Packers (1965–1966), the Baltimore Colts (1967–1972), the Houston Oilers (1973), and the Los Angeles Rams (1974).

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Show Notes

Early Life:

-Originally didn’t like football
-Played the game because that was what they did
-Realized football would take him places

Packers:

-Disinterested in the NFL
-Drafted by the Green Bay Packers, but didn’t realize it until his brother-in-law told him
-Went up against Ray Nitshke and was knocked out, but kept going
-Lombardi hated racism and didn’t tolerate it

Colts:

Transition to Coaching:

Alabama:

-Had a relationship with Bear Bryant previously
-Hiring came as a shock to Curry
-Came to Tuscaloosa at a time when they were still trying to find the next “Bear Bryant” who would begin the next long title run
-Replaced Ray Perkins

-Players came in with the championship mindset
-Took everyday people and turned them into Superman at Alabama
-Coached Keith McCants, John Mangum, Siran Stacy, Derrick Thomas, and George Teague
-Won Alabama’s 1st SEC Championship since Coach Bryant’s days
-Has fond memories of the school
-Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year in 1989
-SEC Coach of the Year in 1987 & 1989
-Saw the strain and toll it had taken on his family
-He was rarely home and decided to step down as head coach

Post-Kentucky and ESPN:

Magnanimitas:

-Saying Bill Curry lives by
-Means greatness of spirit
-Give to a cause greater than yourself
-According to Bill, if you don’t, you won’t be who God wants you to be
-Invests in his players, cares for them, loves them
-Puts the development of his players as people first
-Players at each school have always bought completely in
-He meant a lot to his players. When he came to George Teague’s house to recruit him, Teague said that he almost ran through the wall to give him his answer
-He knew at a very young at that coaching was what he wanted to do

Fan Q&A (Rapid Fire):

  1. Why Kentucky? Why leave gold for the bronze?- Robert Barham
  2. Who do you think could be the successor for Nick Saban?-Geoff (Jeff) Geoff Goodman
  3. You were a player, coach, analyst, author, and founder of the Georgia State football program. Which one do you have the best memories from? What are a few of those?-Ryan Christa
  4. How long do you feel like the Bear’s legacy gave the program validation?-Adam Hall
  5. Do you regret leaving Georgia Tech for Alabama?- Chris Greene

Poll Question

Which fast food restaurant makes the best French Fries?
McDonalds- 57.7%, Five Guys 19.2 %, Wendys- 19.2%, Burger King- 3.8%
Justin Riley: McDonalds
Bill Curry: McDonalds
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Transcript

Santiago Leon
Welcome to the sports cast, June 2020, Episode 212. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe on all our channels YouTube, Periscope and iTunes. And if you’re an iTunes, please leave a rating and review. It’ll help us out tremendously. Visit us on the sports cast dotnet This episode is brought to you by is the Bible app, you can get the Insta Bible app in the iOS App Store. Today we have a special guest. But before we introduce our special guests, we have Justin Riley, welcome back to the sports cast.

Justin Riley
Hey, glad to be here. Santiago blessed to have another opportunity to be on the sports cast.

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley, yeah. Can you introduce our special guests, and also a special shout out to a special place in Tuscaloosa.

Justin Riley
Man I won’t be glad to Hey folks, if you were in the Tuscaloosa area, I don’t know where to ramaa jammas there’s some farm folks Over there if you’re heading in for a game or just want the game day experience you know stop on by and then tell them the guys at the sports cast since you over. Alright great day like Santiago said very excited to introduce our guests and to have our guest here. He was a two time Super Bowl winner with the Packers in the Colts the 1985 ACC Coach of the Year, the 1989 SEC championship winner, the SEC Coach of the Year in 1987 and 1989. He was the bobby Coach of the Year in 1989. He’s a member of the Georgia Sports Hall of Fame. The winner of the Amos Alonzo Stagg award. And also he was welcome into your homes for 10 years as an ESPN analyst on College GameDay. Welcome to the show coach Bill curry.

Bill Curry
Thanks, guys. It’s great to be on with you.

Santiago Leon
coach Bill curry. You have a lot of rich history in football. You’re resume is probably one of the best I’ve seen in a while, when it comes to sports. Can you have like a brief, brief summary of how your career has been so far?

Bill Curry
I feel like the luckiest guy in the world. And at the same time, the most blessed guy in the world is to say, well, God’s really blessed me Well, why? If that’s the case, why would he bless me and not bless a bunch of my buddies who didn’t get to do all these things? So I think part of it is just being in the right place at the right time. And I think if I were to pick out one aspect of

Bill Curry
my career that is the most rewarding, it is the diversity and its diversity in every way I’ve done just about everything there is to do, associated with the sport of football. I’ve been privileged to be on The team with and to play for some of the greatest human beings that ever lived in my opinion. And they’re all different races, all different political parties. They’re all different countries of origin. And I was educated that way. And then the privilege of coaching at locations where some of the great coaches had been where coach Bobby dad had been at Georgia Tech and coach Brian at Alabama, obviously, and coach Claiborne at Kentucky and although Georgia State didn’t had never had a football team, we got to start that program. I just feel like I’ve been blessed to be in a lot of places, but which afforded me the opportunity to learn from great great human beings. And some of those human beings are really famous. You would know all their names, and somebody you’ve never heard of, but they all the one thing they have common is that they were unselfish, that they were honest and honorable, and they cared about us, whether we were players or whether we were coaches, working under them or working with them. And to be treated that way, was a very strong message, that by golly, we better treat our players that way, with honor and caring about each one, and trying to teach each one what it meant to be a real man, a real leader, and that’s what we tried to do.

Justin Riley
Sounds amazing koja want to kind of jump to when you first start out in the NFL, as a player, the Packers kind of a funny thing. I originally heard an interview that you said you didn’t hadn’t realized that you’ve been drafted by the Packers until your brother in law told you. That was pretty fun.

Bill Curry
It was really funny. I was so clueless. I didn’t know that the NFL had addressed until stupid. I was Did my brother on a cosmic morning says, Hello Green Bay Packer I hung up on him because he’s always messing with me. He called me back he said, Boy, you better look in the newspaper. The Green Bay Packers have drafted you. They had 20 rounds in those days. let you guess which round I was drafted. I was drafted dead last I was the 20th selection. And sure enough, I had never gotten a letter from the Green Bay Packers. I had another year play. I was a 212 pounds that’s a sinner if you can believe it. And you can play safety that that body weight now. But I had the privilege of reporting and being on the team with those great people for two years. And then six years with the Baltimore Colts and

Bill Curry
two more years one with Houston and one with the Rams in Los Angeles and So I got a chance to play 10 years and that was just, it was a great thing to be in the locker room with so many incredible human beings.

Santiago Leon
You were in like the first Super Bowl. Coach bell. How was that? I mean, were you able to know that? Wow, this might be the biggest championship throughout history. Like what were your thoughts going through the first Super Bowl with the Packers?

Bill Curry
Well, first of all, I didn’t. We played 16 league games or 14 that year. I didn’t miss a play up until the Super Bowl, but I went out of the super bowl with an ankle injury and didn’t get to finish the game. And that’s always bugged me. But the feeling we had approaching that game was something like something out of The Twilight Zone. I mean, it wasn’t like any other game. It got all this hoopla like it was the biggest deal in the history of the world. We run out on the field in the Coliseum, Los Angeles, that place seats about 105,000. And there were probably 60,000 people there look like a family they scrimmage. Mamas and daddies spread and picnics. I mean, it didn’t feel like a big game. But when we saw the Chiefs run on the finger, we realize, Oh, this is gonna be a big game. They were really a lot. They were a lot better than we thought they’d be. We won the game going away, because that was just a great football team. But a few years later, that same cheese team came back and hammered the Vikings in Super Bowl for they really had great personnel and smart coaches. But anyhow, it was it was a really weird feeling. And our coach was flipping out Vince Lombardi. He was getting telegrams from all the NFL owners saying, You better not lose this game. And we didn’t Know that we knew he was always he was always harder on us but he, he put us on immediate ends on the day before the game said that man, I want you to understand a couple of things. In my contract, remember my salary was $13,500. He said if you are late for curfew, or if you are late to the team bus or anything, the fine is going to be $2,500. So I was in bed by seven that night, you can count most of us were the other thing. He said. If you screw up in this game, you will never play another play in the National Football League. So that’s that’s how it felt going into that game. It was

Justin Riley
pretty powerful stuff. As you mentioned, he only played two years there after he won the Super Bowl. Green Bay decided your time with them was done. And from what I understand from watching previous interviews, you’re a little little upset about that, you know, as a Christian based company, we’re starting to focus on our spiritual method message with each of our shows. One of the stories you’ve experienced dealt with forgiveness when it came to coach Lombardi. So actually one of my favorite stories, he was coached memoria was on his deathbed, and you had the opportunity to go visit him. Would you mind telling that story to us?

Bill Curry
Well, I really blamed it all on him that I had to put on the expansion list and claim by the New Orleans Saints, and then they had traded me to the Colts. I was so immature and that’s a kind of way of saying I was stupid and dishonest. And it was nobody’s fault but mine. And and yeah, that I blamed it on him. And when we went to Super Bowl free, which we lost to the Jets, by the way, everybody remembers that one. But I said I said And I was the only player there that had played for

Bill Curry
Lombardi and shoe. So the press descended on me and said, well, what’s the difference? And I said, well, the difference is, I said this publicly, when Biden care about us, he was abusive. She was tough as nails and he drove us harder than Lombardi. But you could tell that he cared about you. And I went on from there and said a bunch of other things, some of which really weren’t true. And I’m ashamed of that.

Bill Curry
So, a couple of years later,

Bill Curry
Paul horning and I bumped into each other and he wanted to fight. He said that stuff you said about the old man was terrible. I said, Well, what I said was true. At the time, I thought, I believed it. I had talked myself into believing it because I was again, I was sinful. And he says, I’ll tell you what the old man saw you it treats you like his long lost son. Now said it’s He saw that you treat me like dirt just like he always did. The exchange was just like that. And so when you shut your mouth off, you need to be real careful because it wasn’t. Two months later, I was walking up a staircase at the President’s Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC. And guess who’s coming down the other way, and there’s no escape. And since Lombardi and he greeted me, he greeted me like his long lost son, which made me feel like about an inch high. This is how God deals with us. He said to me, he said to me, I think Bill, I think you and I need to talk. I said, Yes, sir. We do. And I just couldn’t wait to get away from him. I was so embarrassed. So a few months later, he was dying. And Georgetown hospital colon cancer and one of the many great teammates I had. And I consider this guy one of the greatest because of what he did in this moment. He said, he called me and he said, Look, I know you’re in town in Washington working for the Players Association. And you and I are going to go see coach Lombardi at the hospital tomorrow. I said, No, no, we’re not going to seek out somebody because I wouldn’t be allowed in the room. That’s one thing. And second, I just can’t do that. I was gutless. He said, Well, let me tell you the next thing. I know where your room is. And if I have to come drag you pick you know what out of there and put you in a car I’m taking you are going with me to seacoast Lombardi tomorrow. didn’t leave me much choice. So we wrapped up the elevator. The person I was really scared to see was Miss Islam by Marie, who had always always treated Carolyn, my wife and me just like she Her own, she just said always loved bonus. And there she stood, and I got off the elevator and I didn’t know if she would slap me or push me back on the Oh, I didn’t know what she would do. Well, she embraced me. And she said, Come on, let’s go see coach. She guided me into the room where he was there, literally on his deathbed. And he had IVs all in his right arm. So I took his left hand. I’m pretty sure Murray, nudge me up close to the bed because I don’t think I would have walked up there, but I can’t remember how I was numb. I was so terrified. And I choked out some words like coach said some things I shouldn’t have said. And I’m just so sorry. I

Bill Curry
came here today to tell you that you’ve meant a lot to my life and he didn’t waiver. Those eyes were the same as they’d always been. The body was emaciated. he squeezed my hand looked me right in the eye. So you can mean a lot to my life if you’ll pray for me. When I promised that I would, I certainly did. But I also realized as I walked away from that hospital, what the great man had done, and that indeed, he was not just a man of faith, but in his hour of grace greatest trial. He lived out our fates. As we all should, he forgave me when I least deserved it. And when people do that, they change your life. And that’s what Christ meant by treating hateful people with love treating people despitefully use you with love and acceptance. And when there’s nobody did that, I’ve never been able to look at other folks quite the same way since then.

Santiago Leon
One of the greatest coaches of all time. This you’re just into coaching bill, obviously, you know, you’ve been under the wings of Vince Lombardi and Don Shula and you became a coach yourself. Um, I’ve heard you, you know, speak about, you know, the influences, but what were those influences that you brought, and what became bill curry the coach, when did that happen?

Bill Curry
I went to my college coach Bobby Dodd, who was just incredible to each of us. He’s the reason I graduated from Georgia Tech. When he said you’re going to go to every single class He was not joking. I thought he was joking. I tried him once, and they ran me till I couldn’t stand up. So I decided, well, maybe I will go up class. That’s the only reason I graduate. So when I was a senior, I went to him and I said, coach, I believe I’d like to coach sometime. He said, that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. He says, You got a diploma from Georgia Tech. I want you to run an airline or something. You go do something meaningful coaching is not a stable profession. But he said, I’ll tell you this. If after 10 years, you find out you just got to do it. Then you come back to see me and I’ll help you because the only the only way you should coach football is if you have to.

Bill Curry
And he was right about that. So when I was through playing in the NFL, I learned about myself that I was going to have to coach because I was obsessed with it. And that basically In my heart of hearts, I’m a youth worker. And I always have been. And so I from the very beginning, I knew that my job was really to help shape young people, especially young men in our sport. But more and more young women are getting involved in the training rooms and in the administrative part. So I’ve worked with male and female, to help realize their full potential as human beings. And then the moment of truth when I take God really spoke to me and shoot me a big Ten’s The first time I stood in front of 105 teenage males and realized that I was their head coach. Wow, wow. Since his sense of responsibility, and from that moment until this that was in 1980. I’ve tried to remember that.

Bill Curry
That that my real role is to help teach you Young people to be the best human beings they can be, and to find their own way in their faith journey. But to make sure that they understand that that’s the most important thing they’re doing, and that their capacity for relationship is the most important thing. And I’ve certainly been imperfect and I’ve certainly messed up a bunch, but that’s what I’ve, that’s what I’ve tried to do.

Santiago Leon
Justin, before we go into rapid fire, make sure you have one or two more questions because that time is kind of winding down. So

Justin Riley
absolutely course and being an Alabama fan, as well as an alumnus of the school, you know, had to touch briefly on your time at Alabama. You know, you were you turned around Georgia Tech and things are looking pretty good. And all of a sudden, Alabama came calling from what I understand that kind of shocked you a little bit, something you weren’t expecting, was that

Bill Curry
well, there was a lot of animosity between

Bill Curry
Alabama and Georgia Tech that stemmed from an incident way back in the 60s. And that’s that kind of stuff shouldn’t be. But it is. And I didn’t think much about it at the time, but a lot of people remembered that big time and still remember it to this day. Still, people will still bring it up and it’s shocking to me, but I’m not going to get into details and by by this name, but so I was stunned when when I got a phone call from my buddy, my old teammate, Ray Perkins was New Year’s Eve. And he he’s a no nonsense. Yeah. He says, Hey, Cory, I want you to take this job. I said, What are you talking about park? What job? He said this job Alabama. I’ve got to go to the NFL. I’ve got this great contract offered Tampa. I gotta go and I want you to Take it now said you’re crazy now. I’ve thought about hanging up on him. He said, No, don’t. You said, I know you think I’m crazy. I said, I do. I know you’re crazy. He said, Well, I’m gonna hang up here. In five minutes. Dr. Joe Thomas is gonna call you. I said, Sure. Thanks. Have you ever have another drink perk now hung up?

Bill Curry
Five minutes later, Dr. Joe Thomas called and almost passed out. It was shocking. But it was also an opportunity to do something that was very important. Try to take the message to another kind of League in the sec. I had grown up playing in the sec. Georgia Tech had gotten out actually my senior year, and I’d always regretted that so

Bill Curry
I felt like it was a was almost like a call. I don’t know if I made that up. Or if it was true, I guess I’ll never know But it ended up working out obviously, at least for a while.

Justin Riley
Right? And you know, you came to Tuscaloosa in a time where, like you said, right, Perkins was exiting and the school was still looking for his next quote, unquote Bear Bryant to get that toddler on going again. Of course, we all know the mindset of the Alabama fan base and our expectations, but could you touch a little bit on the mentality of the players themselves? And the expectations of those young men’s you coach?

Bill Curry
Gosh, yeah, I tell you this, it is so much fun to coach Alabama, guys, because you never have to worry about motivating anybody ever. Because when they show up, they know what the deal is. Yes. Yes, we’re gonna make sure you go to class, we’re gonna make sure you graduate. But when we take, we take the practice steel or the game field. I’m going to tell you what the mission is, but you already know it. Because you’ve known about it from the time you were in your cradle, most of it most of them do is still Doyle, the great kicker.

Bill Curry
As he sat with us not long after I got there and I was pretty sure it was because of my personal charm. So I called him in one day I said, so but when did you know you were going to come down with them? And you said, Oh, when I was about 10 years old, as I knew, so they don’t wonder they don’t wonder where they’re gonna go, or why they’re there.

Bill Curry
When they put that when they put those jerseys in those helmets own their own fields, they got one objective in our mind, and is to dominate and it is so much fun to coach and it was really a joy. And I love my players from all the schools that I coach, but they have a built in advantage that is just incredible.

Santiago Leon
Let’s jump into the rapid fire. Justin, I’ll go with the first one. Question from our Twitter audience from Robert. Yeah, Robert. He says why Kentucky? Why leave gold for the bronze?

Bill Curry
Well, being the coach at Alabama

Bill Curry
is a great thing. But because of the circumstances surrounding the job, was very, very hard for my family and knocked out like at the time that the best thing I could do for the people that I was most obligated to and the people that I love most in the world was to move on in Kentucky had a very good situation. It didn’t turn out the way we had hoped, but it could have should have. And I just felt like it was better for the correct family for us to move on and also, my presence had become a distraction to my players. And one night I went in to do the radio show. And there were three guys sitting there. Three my players, I’m not gonna call their names because I don’t want to embarrass them. But I said, What are you guys doing? Are you supposed to be in study hall? And they said, We’re not going, we’re not gonna let you take all those stupid questions on that on that coach’s show tonight, coach, we’re gonna answer the questions for you. I said, No, you cannot get out of here. I love you for thinking of it. But you got to study how

Bill Curry
my presence would have become a deterrent to our team. And so I just felt like it was the right thing to do is to move on. I

Justin Riley
can certainly understand that. I do have to mention this because my mama told me if I didn’t do it, she’s gonna get me like when I came to visitor, you actually coached a really good friend of our family and that was john Mangum. And she wanted me to ask you about you know, your experience with john and how How he was under you and just kind of what’s your overall experience with him was

Bill Curry
or tell her I did not coach john Mangum. I just stuck him out there. And he was so well we didn’t have to say a word john. And john didn’t say a word to anybody else. He never said a word he just showed up every day and played great. JOHN mangum was a great player, and a great guy. And he honestly I don’t remember ever having to coach john Mangum. So I don’t think he needed us. We needed him a lot. Wow, what a word she can tell. Tell your mom that she picked. One of the all time greats his coach, you try not to have favorites. And I don’t, but if I was gonna have favorites, john. Well,

Santiago Leon
another Rapid Fire question from Jeff Goodman, Jeff Goodman. He asks, Who do you think could be the successor of Nick Saban?

Bill Curry
Who wants to do that? I think nobody wants to do that. I think Nick’s probably gonna be there who was talking? I was talking to some clever guy and I can’t remember who it was not long ago and all this stuff came about Dabo Sweeney. Is Dabo Sweeney gonna replace Nick Saban? So as we were having dinner or something, just one of my buddies and I said, Well, what do you think? Do you think Dabo it’s like go for Nick. He said, heck, Nick may take over for Dabo clips. As Nick Nick coastal, he’s 90 years so

Bill Curry
I don’t have a clue. That’s that’s my honest answer. I don’t have

Bill Curry
gi doom. That’s gonna be a tough job.

Justin Riley
Ryan Krista actually one of our fellow contributors here the sports cast, said you’re you’re the player, coach, analyst, author. and founder of the Georgia State football program, which one of these I guess, different titles? Do you have the best memories from and which of those are you willing to share?

Bill Curry
Well, the

Bill Curry
the honest answer to that is when I have dreams about football, it’s not about coaching or broadcasting. I love playing football. I started out as a kid, not short, fat, lazy, 12 year old and I wanted to quit. Didn’t like football, but by the time I got into my NFL career, I’ve loved every minute of it, and I love to play and and if I could go out and play one more game, I would in a heartbeat. It would be really ugly and you had to get an ambulance to get the field. I love. I love playing the most.

Santiago Leon
Another Rapid Fire question Adam Hall. He asks, How long do you think Feel like the bear legacy. Bear Brian’s legacy gave the program validation

Bill Curry
forever. Because Brian was unique. He He has it’s not just a reputation he has a a hold on the imagination and under expectations of that state and that community, really unlike anybody I’ve ever seen. Maybe coach Lombardi in Wisconsin matches copes by, but he was great to me. And I’ve never I never get a chance to tell a lot of stories, but he went out of his way to befriend me. He actually coached me in the coaches all America game after my senior year and he I really thought that I probably would not like him and I’m out. Loved, I love to be in his center and play in that just that one game for him and his family when we got to Tuscaloosa they just just swept us into their fat when we go over there now it was still a steak with his granddaughter and her husband. So the brights made a lot to us. And I don’t think anybody’s ever gonna be able to really erase that now savings done a great job on the football field. But the number of championships and that sort of thing. And you can’t deny that but the presence of coach Bryant, thank you. It’s going to be matched.

Bill Curry
Another question came from our audience, Chris green. And Georgia Tech was your alma mater where you played and and you ended up coming back and you coached after Bobby Dodd finished his tenure there. This guy Chris is Actually a Georgia Tech fan. He asked if you ever regretted leaving Georgia Tech for Alabama.

Bill Curry
When I got a call, first person I call was coach Don. And he shocked me

Bill Curry
because he had stayed at Georgia Tech unit had many offers somebody and I said, coach, are you sitting down? He said, Yeah, I said, Alabama has called and said, You don’t mean it. Not said no. I do mean it. Yeah, they have. He said that they’re going to interview you and us and I said, Yes, sir. There. They’ve asked, What’s the flicker do an interview, he said, and now I’ll never forget these words. He said, You have to go. You must go. I said, Are you coach, I can’t believe you’re saying this to me. He said, Look, you got a chance to take the message of winning And the right kind of academics to back to the SEC. And we probably made a mistake getting out of the SEC. But you can go over there and just make a big difference. And you can take the Georgia Tech legacy and do both jobs. And you will have done both jobs. And you just got to go, you have to do it. Now I said, well, they hadn’t offered the job. He said, Will they interview you? They will, they will offer it. So with that advice, and the advice of some other people that are respected, I felt like it was a must do. But Have I ever regretted it? Of course I regret a lot of the decisions I’ve made.

Bill Curry
Because I know that people were hurt by the decision and I hate that. And if there was some way to somehow ameliorate that, I would like to but you can’t, you can’t go back and change things.

Santiago Leon
While we’re out coming to a close to the show. Tell us a little bit about your book. We’re headed man you meet in the huddle lessons from a football life. Tell us a little bit about your book.

Bill Curry
Well, I wrote it about 10 years ago, and then we brought it back out in 2018. And it’s had reasonable success, but it’s really a tribute to all these great people we’ve been talking about, and a bunch more. Just an attempt to say thank you, because I’ve been surrounded by greatness everywhere I’ve ever been. And people have taken me in when I least deserved it. And I’ve never forgotten that. So I try to say thanks to them in the book and also explain why they were so successful people like coach Dodd and coach Lombardi and great players like Willie Davis and Bart Starr and john Unitas out I just got surrounded by so many great people. I felt like I want to try to say thanks to him. So that’s what that is.

Santiago Leon
You can check out the book link in the show description. While we’re in the close, Justin, any closing words to coach Bell? Then of course we have coach Bill say his closing words.

Justin Riley
Absolutely got a couple of things. First of all, Carrie, I want to thank you for sharing that story earlier, about forgiveness and grace, you know, concerning that Vince Lombardi is a store I feel like you know, we all need to be reminded of because so often, you know, we hang on to unforgiveness, and it just truly robs from our soul. And, you know, you know, God asks us to forgive others, you know, for him, you know, because he forgave us. And it’s just a powerful story. And you know, I come across all walks of life every day where so many people are just being weighed down by unforgiveness, and they need to hear that message. So they can be set free from it. That some other things it really stuck out the most about me is not wins, not losses, not titles or whatnot, just how much you loved your players. And it just it was amazing hearing it from you that also, I did my research and went back and I just listened to your former players, and just how much they talked about how much you love them and how much that you poured life into them. You’re a life giver, and you invest in them as people first and they want to play for you. They want to, they want to win for you. Matter of fact, we had George TIG on a couple weeks ago and he said as soon as you came to his house to recruit him, he felt like he was going run through the wall to tell you yes, he’s coming play for you. And that was just an amazing story. And it’s just so refreshing to hear the message of love because a lot of times that’s often lost in this day and age and that’s like the most important aspect before the you can bring winning into the equation. So I just want to thank you for That and and demonstrating God’s love to others the ways you do and the way you were called.

Bill Curry
Well, that’s what coaches can do. And even though as I’ve said it was terribly imperfect, it was the best I could do and I sure do love all those guys I still do and I still hear from them. And it’s just one of the great privileges in life to have been to have been with them and to have been a part of their educational process.

Santiago Leon
You never stop coaching even though you’re retired, it just keeps going. No, no,

Bill Curry
never.

Santiago Leon
Coach, what is the best way for people to reach you online?

Bill Curry
The best way to reach me is

Bill Curry
suppose Twitter at coach Bill curry.

Santiago Leon
That’s the best way and random question of the day on the sports cast. What is it which fast food restaurants makes the best french fries. The options are McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Burger King, and

Bill Curry
McDonald’s. French fries, my wife and I agree and it’s one of our weaknesses. Now I hate to admit it. Hey, y’all don’t ever eat french fries all you folks out there they’re not good for you but McDonald’s so

Santiago Leon
Justin Riley How about you was ran into McDonald’s five guys Wendy’s or Burger King

Justin Riley
had to go with Coach curry on this one nothing Trump’s they Donald’s french fries. And I don’t know how they do that. It’s magic, man. That’s the only thing I can think of that can’t be replicated. And sure. I haven’t found anyone that comes close.

Santiago Leon
Well, everyone on Twitter agrees with you McDonald’s 57% Wendy’s at 19.2 Burger King 3.8. And five guys is tied with Wendy’s for a second place in 19.2. So it’s quite interesting. On Twitter. Well guys, Coach Justin, what a show what and encouragement. This is an impressive resume. And this is definitely you know, a, a. I mean, I’ve always said coaches are one of the best leaders in the world like they, you know, even though it’s a football game, but it’s almost like war and they’re like our today’s generals in some aspects. But bill, really appreciate you coming on to the sports guest.

Bill Curry
But it’s been my pleasure and it’s great talking to you guys and I hope everything goes well.

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