Episode #360: Alabama Legends Atlas Herrion & Kenny King with the iconic Stephen M. Smith of Touchdown Alabama Magazine | Riley & Constant

This week, the gang talks about what’s ahead for the Crimson Tide, coaching departures, and visit with some Alabama legends. Former Crimson Tide and NFL players Atlas Herrion & Kenny King will join us. Along with them will be our favorite analyst Stephen M. Smith of Touchdown Alabama Magazine.

Contributors
Justin Riley – @JustinRiley7
Marvin Constant – @constant451
Steve Brown – @comicstevebrown

Guests
Atlas Herrion – @atlasatman
Kenny King
Stephen M. Smith – @CoachingMSmith

Transcript

Justin Riley 0:19
January 19 that means only one thing, the rollin constant show, with Steve brown presented by the sports cast. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe on all of our channels YouTube, Periscope. And now Spotify. If you own YouTube, hit like and subscribe right now if you’re on iTunes, give us a rating and review. Also, visit us on the sports cast dotnet for all the up to date sports news and if you have an iPhone, download our new app. This episode is brought to you by Ken Darby of driven real estate solutions, LLC. They are local professional homebuyers that pay cash for houses in any condition, price range or location. Yes, you can sell your home fast and relieve your stress. To regain peace of mind. You can visit Ken and his team at WWW dot driven real estate solutions.com I’m your host over the hill powerlifter and 2003 Bama grad Justin Riley with me as always is the man who is an Alabama legend all sec linebacker to Tom author. And when Ric Flair said to be the man Whoa, you gotta beat the man he is that man Marvin constant.

Marvin Constant 1:30
Just a man it’s always a great intro as always, man, I really do appreciate it. I’m just happy to be here with you guys tonight, man. I’m just I’ve learned to take life. Don’t take life for granted. Man. Take every moment. cherish it, live it to the fullest. And again. Thank you guys, man.

Justin Riley 1:50
Glad to have you here. Hey, I’m Steve Brown. Don’t start getting here on time. I’m gonna save the epic intro I have for him. For Steve for Steven M. Smith. Because you know, he’s here on time. He was here before time. We might have to do a little transitioning. But, man last week, we had some great guests to celebrate the national championship. This week. It’s even better. It’s even better. We’re still celebrating and we got some great guests from our day. Marvin, go ahead and introduce them.

Marvin Constant 2:18
Oh, man, I don’t even know where to start. You know. The first guests I want to introduce the man himself. He’s not even a guest anymore. Steven M. Smith. What the hell

do you Steven? I just say welcome home. So now I’m gonna get to our guests because Steve’s not a you’re not a guest. Yeah, yes, Ross crap that you will no longer be introduced as a guest from this day forward. Welcome. But our first guests, ladies and gentlemen, when I say Alabama’s class of 1999 he wrote members that contributed to us with the acc championship in 1999. And when I say showed up to school with a minivan like no other one

Unknown Speaker 3:18
was going on, man. I appreciate y’all for having me. Thanks again. Love and glad that y’all are hosting a show like this. And I’m glad I’m a part of

Marvin Constant 3:29
Kenny I gotta say you know the person I know that will make a minute man look cool, man.

Unknown Speaker 3:38
I remember that.

Marvin Constant 3:40
Our next power house. What more can I say about this man? I’m wondering if that Daphne purple and gold lead his son to other purple and gold but only.

Justin Riley 4:08
That’s one of the first things he talked about last week when he told me you guys are coming home. His son going to LSU so yeah, get ready for that.

Unknown Speaker 4:19
He calls it home now he’s at UAB. He

Justin Riley 4:28
great code, you know, postcard. So I got so long time to base since I got Marvin on here. Who played it, Tuscaloosa Central. And you guys played it Daphne, who arguably one of the best well known football organizations and high school in the state of Alabama. So this ended debate right now which program was the best?

Marvin Constant 4:55
Tuscaloosa city school system took central out of that debate had a little have things alone, central will be in the run for that. But we don’t have the championship. We only want to, you know, as a school, so if the city of Tuscaloosa had have never touched that fine organization, it would be Central High School. Now I will say before the city of Tuscaloosa decided to break that up. It would have been so so but

Stephen M. Smith 5:22
so. So rezoned department, but so they did rezone it.

Marvin Constant 5:25
Now they asked, well, they went beyond rezoning it. They turned it from one school into three schools. See, the problem is when the people with the money kids aren’t playing, they complain. So

cuz they’re no longer playing behind the poor kids.

Just call it what it is. Let’s just call it what it is.

Justin Riley 5:52
I was hoping for a little bit of back and forth, waiting to hear their side.

Unknown Speaker 5:56
Hey, hey, I’m saying that was that was that excuse? You see that?

Marvin Constant 6:07
Not an excuse. Because my sophomore year, he was the number 22 team in the country. My junior year we were the number 14 in the country. My senior year. We’ve been number 17 team in the country. Now I can put up a fight that we were still quite the powerhouse.

Unknown Speaker 6:21
No Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Our house Yeah, like you say you lost your thunder wherever whatever happened, but has rise to the occasion. still rolling. And quite frankly Daphna got split to so

Unknown Speaker 6:49
many championships

Unknown Speaker 6:49
out. We want Oh, we want to we want to but but

Unknown Speaker 6:56
so but you have to say again,

Marvin Constant 7:02
we always school plan y’all want to know. thought

Unknown Speaker 7:16
that was open back in the 70s 80s. Late 90s 80s 80s.

Marvin Constant 7:21
They went to T ha and Druid hills Druid hat. So sexual. Huh?

Unknown Speaker 7:36
What year was it?

Unknown Speaker 7:46
Here’s the bottom line

Unknown Speaker 7:48
at a time.

Unknown Speaker 7:55
And it’s called a split with 114.

Marvin Constant 7:58
So what’s cool is that Benjamin Russell I mean Spanish for Okay,

Unknown Speaker 8:04
yeah. So they Yeah,

Marvin Constant 8:06
so what you’re saying is y’all love Spanish? No PT.

I had to take that shot. Yeah. I had to take

Unknown Speaker 8:24
a pound for pound I definitely got it central player back in the day.

Justin Riley 8:34
So more than the NFL to right.

Unknown Speaker 8:37
No, I want

Marvin Constant 8:45
to make no mistake about it.

Unknown Speaker 8:47
Yeah, but we got about one team.

Unknown Speaker 8:49
We got we have several

Justin Riley 9:05
in the middle of our craziness. Mr. Dennis Alexander has joined us. Welcome to the show.

Unknown Speaker 9:20
Boys your boys look good.

Marvin Constant 9:27
Why not bring another coach and another brother.

Justin Riley 9:46
Now that we have the coaches here, let’s talk about the situation Alabama. A lot of things going on right now. Hold

Unknown Speaker 9:53
on, hold on, hold on, hold

Unknown Speaker 9:54
on to Tennessee.

Unknown Speaker 9:59
Please You

Justin Riley 10:03
know about that, but yes. Let’s go ahead and hear your thoughts on that. That was the craziest news that I saw yesterday. Wow. I got Buddha too. So, yeah.

Stephen M. Smith 10:18
See, just as he suggested they didn’t they didn’t boot him. They decided to give him a retirement party.

Marvin Constant 10:26
But the funny part about being they go back and say his retirement was not related to the allegations.

Justin Riley 10:34
Right, right. He didn’t get a watch or nothing they just said by that brief appearance in a blindside resist. Oh,

Marvin Constant 10:44
so I gotta ask Stephen M. Smith. This guy Big D Stephen F. Smith from Bell magazine his own when I say the most informative man in college football style. Time Bomb, forget her. Forget, forgive me. If I got what exactly happened because it’s they said it’s tied to the recruitment of two players in particular the one lineman who went to Georgia and the runningback who went to Tennessee who they held out the last game but didn’t say why they held him out but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with impermissible benefits if I had to take a guess. bag

Stephen M. Smith 11:26
it has something to do with that because the main guy they’re touching them with a Marvin is a Marius mams Americans memes took money from Tennessee, but ultimately committed to Georgia. And of course, we all have seen the Dan Patrick interview today, where Dan Patrick talked about them putting cash in McDonald’s bags. I’ve never seen an expensive Happy Meal like that. And McDonald’s bags and pass it on there to recruits but here’s here’s my thinking. And I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but I’m gonna throw a hypothetical out here for a minute here. Let’s be honest here. Jim tennis Jeremy Pruitt was never Tennessee’s first choice. Think about that. Tennessee if folks wanted Jon Gruden Jon Gruden, hey, Tennessee to get the job for the Raiders, and then Tennessee wanted Mike Gundy. Mike Gundy played Tennessee to get more money from Oklahoma State. Then Tennessee went after Greg siano. And that was a complete dumpster fire. Jeremy Pruitt was about their eighth or ninth option. So they never really valued prove it. They were kind of backed into him. My thing is his tendency, just saying this, just so they don’t have to pay proof the 12 point 6 million they owe them because that’s the buyout. And they’re trying to stick him with the show calls to mitigate the buyout so they don’t have to pay him. Is this something where Tennessee is not trying to pay for it? Because they

Marvin Constant 12:56
never want the man in the first place. Exactly that buyout because they because they saying that it was the penalties. They’re using that as their reason to just fire him. But the reason why I wanted to start with Tennessee because I want to circle back to something fine. Pete Golden’s asked me back.

Stephen M. Smith 13:22
Marvin. Marvin, Marvin, I’m telling you, it is so many Bama fans, but have jumped into my dm saying, I don’t care. I don’t care if you kill the guys shot a guy. Bring him back.

Marvin Constant 13:40
Bring him back. Maybe bring him back the code to save his coaches camp. You know another head coach ran back. Cuz, uh, Pete gotta go man. Pete is trash. I’m sorry. Pizza tray. I wish he had went with sorry. I don’t know who convinced him to stay in Tuscaloosa.

Stephen M. Smith 13:57
He needs to get out of touch with Okay. Okay. Okay. So here’s what happened because taxes hire a man named Pete. It just wasn’t Pete Golding. It was the guy from Washington named Pete. So what happened was, he at one point was the hot topic. But I guess Texas got a whiff of, well, maybe he can call these defects like we want him to. So let’s get this other Pete from Washington. We know about

Marvin Constant 14:23
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You say Texas got weird that he can’t call him a blind man can see that.

Can we put those three on the hot seat? Let’s put these three coaches on the hot seat. What do y’all think about Pete Golden’s defensive coordinating skills?

Unknown Speaker 14:52
Oh, man. Oh,

Justin Riley 15:00
You’re in a safe place.

Unknown Speaker 15:25
You know, there were some development thing that was lacking over the past couple of years, I mean, no. And I’m and I’m a little bit of slack a little bit because we were young. We replaced a lot of guys over the past couple of years, you know, especially up front. And those guys I mean, they really just starting to come into their own. You know, you look at guys like bar more and rest those guys up there. The room guys was young man, and they had to step in. I mean, you look at the guys they had you thought about the run name and all those guys in that group. But it was somehow

Stephen M. Smith 16:09
you guys were leaving early. Hold on. I’m just saying I

Marvin Constant 16:19
want to ask you something else, though, pertaining to what you said about him being young. Now as a coach, you know, if your guys are young, are you gonna put them in bad situations? Because why did the man to man coverage and you’re not getting pressure up front with your young front? So now you’re screwing your secondary because nobody can cover all day. So Sydney has switched to more zone mid with some zone presses occasionally. That’s all I’m saying. I’m gonna close to my plan streets and never,

Unknown Speaker 16:48
ever you that you’ve definitely got to take the temperature of the whole team. You know, you can’t, you can’t be stumbling. That’s one thing you can do. Everybody knows family like to play man. And man, we don’t feel safe in the middle of the field, man you up across the board, you know, but you didn’t have the guys, they could get the pressure, like, you know, so I agree with you there, man. But I do see, you know, as the season went on this year, and dog started to wake up a little bit now. They started to wake up and they started to come on a little bit. So, you know, I could I could eat a little bit because they will they will look beyond that. I do agree with you. So I’m gonna play cod and salmon situation. Put him in some bad situations.

Marvin Constant 17:28
I get it your coach, you got to be politically correct. Yeah. I get that.

Unknown Speaker 17:40
Come on. Not really, I’m saying the whole thing was, he was the first defense coordinator was hired outside of the tree. If you think about it, all the rest. I was promoted with Dean. Because Jamie Oliver’s position goes before they got promoted. Luke was the last one. But a lot of people you know, I get Melissa flack, because that first year he was coming in, he’s learning and he’s still trying to develop himself. But I think they got a little bit better. But y’all don’t forget he got there. He can bring him back to Boise for the writers it had the writers took around on DVD. So I

Stephen M. Smith 18:25
remember when Mel Tucker left in 2013. And that DB room was lit.

Marvin Constant 18:33
back to my original point. I’ll take anybody over Pete Golding.

Justin Riley 18:36
So are your thoughts on this

Unknown Speaker 18:44
kind of work with this one. At the end of the day, you know, they want a they want a championship at the end of the day. It was ugly. Of course, it was definitely some calls that was definitely questionable. And sometimes, you know, when you’re good and you the best, you get stubborn and what you do, but at the end of the day, they definitely got it done in the end. So again, as he was coordinating he got that ring. So hey, I’m definitely a fan also, you know, I do think he needs to come on back.

Marvin Constant 19:29
Because here’s the thing you put proven wrong with Charles chrome and you bring into the back you got a defensive staff now. That’s phenomenal. Oh yeah. No kidding. Cuz I got a question for you coach, your head coach, your defensive coordinator. I took on the place that he was he gonna be before you eat him? Cuz Kenny.

Unknown Speaker 19:57
I can’t I can’t hear you froze up. Did

Marvin Constant 20:07
I say those first eight or nine games? If you would have hit coach, how long would it have been before you relieve your defensive coordinator of his duties? Because the first eight nine games in a row, man they weren’t

Unknown Speaker 20:17
they were angula

Unknown Speaker 20:24
that Texas a&m game was a was definitely rough.

Marvin Constant 20:29
The Ole Miss game.

Unknown Speaker 20:36
It was definitely rough.

Unknown Speaker 20:37
But

Unknown Speaker 20:40
I don’t think you you, you pull that trigger, because it’s still a W, you know, I’m saying

Unknown Speaker 20:48
all season. I,

Unknown Speaker 20:50
I think at the end of the day, you don’t switch back, you don’t have a trigger in your mind. Because it’s still a W you don’t like us, you pull it out of us no matter what. No matter how the office is taken care of. Because even even at every level, is gonna be some Office Depot. But at the end of the day, they still were undefeated. No matter how they did it. They still have w now they would have took a loss. I think you were gonna be it was gonna be like some questioning and maybe some change. Now the fact that they feel defeated, still did that thing. Got that ring. I get

Marvin Constant 21:34
a championship but at the end of the day, I wouldn’t

Unknown Speaker 21:47
quit taping this, right? Yeah. Okay, good.

Justin Riley 22:18
I’ll send you the link to the replay your dm Atlas.

The audience is echoing what you’re saying Marvin, bring back.

Marvin Constant 22:43
He is terrible. I’m sorry. Okay, here’s the thing about if you want to develop a defensive coordinator, go to Conference USA, go to the Mac go to, you know, go to somewhere else. You don’t develop an SEC. sec. Let it have to be the middle rate.

Justin Riley 23:06
Before we move on to yars careers, I do want to touch on the hot topic right now. Doug marone. were supposedly working out a deal is being finalized as we speak for him to be the offensive line coach. What are your thoughts on that?

Marvin Constant 23:20
sock, she took our offensive line coach who is one of the best.

Stephen M. Smith 23:24
Okay, okay. Okay. So, me personally, I want to return to just Outland that’s just me. But to get Doug murale to get to get Doug marone. He’s coached offensive lineman for 16 years. So that’s experience right there. He’s been in the NFL. He’s got experience in college, and let’s be honest, all these offensive linemen they want one thing who can get me to the NFL, who can point me to the National Football League, and we’ve got murales experience he’s gonna have all this talent to work with. If he can get these guys the National Football League. That’s all they want. Not not and i think i think this is Bill O’Brien’s doing because saving one stop one stop stopping and Sabre like this. And Saban was like okay, if Jeff don’t get another job in the NFL, to be gonna bring Jeff back home. But have Jeff get this Eagles coaching job or another NFL team won’t Jeff, but I ain’t gonna worry about it. I’m gonna let this fall in bill O’Brien’s hands below brown walnut, Doug Malone. Here’s what y’all.

Marvin Constant 24:31
Well, you know what though? I’m kind of mad at Coach Saban right now. Well, you would think that huh? You will know why madico

Justin Riley 24:40
Please, please explain.

Marvin Constant 24:43
Because by now coach should have figured out he should be putting it into contracts and these coaches that he hired that if they take a head coaching job at another school, they’re not allowed to poach coaches from the staff because it happens every year. At what point do you put a stop to the coaches leaving taking other coaches with them? It happens every

Stephen M. Smith 24:59
year. And that and not just other coaches, Marvin, we’re talking about elite as recruiters. guys that have this tangible chemistry with these young kids like Jeff banks copula, good tangible. I talk to kids on the recruiting trail, the tangible energy, those coaches that’s why you got a hold on the call Scott and Freddie Roach what’s your life?

Marvin Constant 25:28
Well, you know what I’m if you want to hire me as a recruiter, I’ll do that but I can’t go into the Clintons.

Stephen M. Smith 25:43
True story True story. Almost drove by McDonald’s today. Try to see what

Unknown Speaker 25:56
besides that

Unknown Speaker 26:00
extra cash.

Unknown Speaker 26:06
Extra.

Stephen M. Smith 26:13
Oh, don’t don’t be stingy with dumb condiments. He

Justin Riley 26:23
was this focus on you guys. We brought you here for reasoning y’all are some of the greatest to ever play. So let’s kind of focus on your journey. First of all, let’s talk about your recruiting. What was that like for you guys? And why did you choose Alabama? Kenny, I want to start with you. Because I actually heard a rumor that you almost became a Seminole a matter of fact, you bought a starter jacket?

Unknown Speaker 26:43
Yeah, um, yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 26:45
committed to Florida State my junior year. Um, and, you know, in in the 90s, mid 90s. You know, Florida, Florida State was was putting out D lineman left, right, getting them to the NFL. So that’s what my mindset was. It seems cool to get to Tallahassee to get to Tuscaloosa, depending on on what route you take. But that’s kind of why I was hitting, I was being recruited by coach control, running control, who was a course at Florida State. And I remember going into my senior year, he came by and said he wanted me to do something I was like, was that he said he wanted me to decommit from Florida State and, and commit to Alabama because he’ll be hitting Alabama. And the crazy thing is catches on one recruit me from Florida State. That’s all I knew. And my first choice was Florida State. My second choice was Alabama. But at the end of the day, when I found out that, you know, you know, my second choice, the coach of my first choice is going to my second choice, you know, my eyes open and say that’s what I need to be. I was always like, say I am a fan from day one. That’s one of the things that me and my dad used to do is get up on Saturday and watch some Alabama games. But again, you know, as a young kid, your ultimate goal is to make it to the NFL. And of course on Florida State with putting them out left or right. So but at the end of the day, I got to Alabama that was what my heart was.

Stephen M. Smith 28:20
How hard is that though, man when you’re being recruited? And the only guy that recruited you was that was at this school? He goes to another school. How hard is it? How hard is that decision on you at that time?

Unknown Speaker 28:34
Man it’s tough. I mean, you know you build a relationship with that person that’s recruiting you and that’s what’s you know, making hot if you look at Alabama i think is you know, when when Alabama losing coach left right here in a year out, I think the fact that a tradition of the winning in the championship as was keeping those guys there. But back when when I was coming out, you know, Alabama had won one in 92 of course for the state was one of them left, right but again, that’s what that’s what kind of pushed me back towards Alabama, Alabama was always in my heart. But when it comes to recruiting a recruiting coordinator, that’s the person you’re talking to on everyday basis, that’s the person at your house. That’s the person in your school. As the person coming to watch your basketball game you kind of build a relationship with that person so once they leave is gonna be hard. And the biggest thing is another recruiter don’t come in there real quick and try to build a relationship with you. You pretty much go

Justin Riley 29:38
Yeah, right cos was a good man. I got to know him very well when he was helping with FCA while I was down there. love getting to know him super guy. So a big deal. What brought you to Alabama? Tell me about your recruiting. And

Unknown Speaker 29:54
and to be honest with you, man, I was, you know, I was I was almost a Tennessee guy, man.

Justin Riley 30:06
They had the McDonald’s bag back then.

Unknown Speaker 30:14
I had six out four out of my six uncles all went to Tennessee, they didn’t play. Oh, wow. So, I mean, it was rockin top, this Rocky Top deck on all the way, you know, growing up all the way, you know, till I actually started getting recruited. And you know, and we had, you know, in Memphis, and at the time, you know, Alabama was coming and get some guys out of Memphis like, every year, when I was coming out, man, you talking about guys, like, you know, kill the Morehead and you know, Mike Galloway and all of that. And I knew about him guys, because I was playing with a win lose plan against each other chosen for, you know, Player of the Year awards. And I saw so I was having a chance to meet those guys. And, man, I was just like, running down in Tuscaloosa, man, what’s going on? I went out for a game man. And I was waiting to recruit me at the time running back. Because I leaned in. He was recruiting me out to the game. And you know, I went down and I think we were playing that we were Southern Miss. And it was I mean, obviously, it was a blowout, you know, it was it was a big time with but, you know, it was just some about Tuscaloosa was was a lot different than, you know in don’t don’t get me wrong, it was back, you know, but you know, just just going down and hey, we can do that. And, you know, me and David Payne and Derrick woods, we all we all we all graduated at the same time. So they were all recruiting us at the same time. You know, man, we know we ended up coming up on the visit a flew private jet up and then needed to need one of the three of us on a private jet. We never been on nothing private. We flew on the private jet. You know that the rest of that was history man. But just the tradition that you see we have. But that’s in Tuscaloosa. First, we’re seeing Nagisa. It’s a totally different level of football man in Tuscaloosa. And what you see in Knoxville, Tennessee has been for the first couple of years when I was there. I mean, they had like, a winning streak of like, what, six or seven years when I first Yeah, yeah, we talked

Unknown Speaker 32:25
about that right now.

Unknown Speaker 32:29
But like we but when you you know in Tuscaloosa, it just seemed like just when I was watching like the level of intensity was a whole lot more higher in Tuscaloosa than what it was in Australia. It’s kind of what drew me towards losing plus, like I said, all those guys admit that they were dead. So when I came home I was I mean it was home for me. I was in a state when I came home. So it was it was

Justin Riley 32:56
good for me. And you were responsible for the Memphis movement. Hmm.

Unknown Speaker 33:00
Well, some of the guys but yeah, I’m telling you, it was a time and it was the top player out of Memphis every year man for like, five or six years straight. And everybody was kind of wondering like, Why are these guys doing it? You know? Why are these guys want to knock me up? But you know, it was just something different going on in Tuscaloosa man, right? Man, I tell my wife all the time. If I had a red a blue pill, you know to go back and stay where I am right now. So you better find a red pill to cuz I’m thinking

Unknown Speaker 33:36
about you. Oh my stole away different from you know, I came out I was feared by football. None Kj. So I ended up going to Juco in our high school, the only school that was recruiting with Southern Miss because at the time, they had their spearhead the prop 48 route. And I knew I was gonna qualify because I messed around. I was in the back of the class in high school telling jokes in in code. So Coach K one day said, Hey, man, you got a chance to go play some football. So I graduated on a Tuesday my mom was sent me out on Friday to Juco so I’m 16 hours away and the whole time I’m just I stayed in touch with Kosta Kaku and he was all alone me but the crazy part about us I actually graduated a year and a half from Juco. And at the time, that’s when I just met DuBose go so I’m like nah, this thing. You know, I go down with kids and meet all the fellows and paying God and all this good stuff and then all of a sudden, they just snatched it from that. I developed that bone with a coach Callaway Big C and I was like you know what is roll tab again? You know that staff got fired when I’m getting ready to come in and I’m sitting here looking on the outside looking in and Craig What about his kicker? He won’t be in the sack. Yeah,

Justin Riley 34:55
we have a Tennessee almost on a day. We got down from the either side, almost sunny. We learned a lot today. It was great. But

Unknown Speaker 35:05
you know, he was that French only error. And, you know, he had been recruited me when I was in Juco from when he was in Utah. And you know, it was a little, a little stuff happening in the Juco ranks and all that. But you know, I was like, You know what, I ain’t going over that. Then. All sudden, I woke up and I was like, God walked in ties and everything going and King kind of looked at me like me, you really gonna do this? couple days later. It was the best decision ever for me, you know, being 16 hours away, I had to come back home from home. You know, I had two older sons that went to Alabama. And they asked was there when they wanted in 92. So I was like, yeah, just the placement. But, you know, I was a little off for about 24 hours. But that’s about it. I came back.

Unknown Speaker 36:01
Man. So

Stephen M. Smith 36:03
from the Juco perspective, man, going from Juco to a major to a major program.

Unknown Speaker 36:11
It was a big leap. Like, it’s actually for me, it felt like when I went from college to the NFL level, I was used to playing guys in being one of the best and the game of with just a back to three steps fast. Because I got in practice. I’m like, Oh, here we go. And I’ll wait. the crazy part about about always been the smallest. Everywhere I went. So I get the Bellman and I’m standing next to Big D and everybody and I’m like, Okay, here we go. So everybody was always been fascinated. The only thing that was saved me was my feet in my hand. My phone was pretty quick, you know, I can move pretty well, but other than the speed of the game when I got the level, like I thought I was that guy come from Juco. And then that first day of practice, like Okay, come on. And man, but the speed of the game, and just the caliber of the player. And then two angles, get on the gear like Juco to Bama, like, almost lost my mind for a minute.

Marvin Constant 37:13
One of my good friends, Josh Jones. Yeah, you know, Jason Jones played it out about Yeah, he’s the brother Josh, you know, me and Josh graduated high school together Jasmine to essentially died in Mississippi. One day, man, what’s it like playing Juco he was like, yo, see moving along as you’re

Unknown Speaker 37:40
walking. So used to like the biggest thing when I got the Bible people sent me crazy with socks. And Juco like if you don’t bring them loose, man, I have a pair of socks and I want you to go get a pair of socks every day just because I could and man it was

Unknown Speaker 38:03
kept giving you socks, you know, tank and stuff like Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 38:13
But you know the funny part about it, though, when you made it to the lead tank was the first one to come back. You probably bear with tank right? Do you not?

Marvin Constant 38:40
Like man? Oh, man. I got to ask you a question. No big deal. So we all know IV Williams, the coach was the most one of the most

Unknown Speaker 39:12
recruiting

Marvin Constant 39:14
was he like completely different recruiting versus on the field? person I know that he recruited on the field.

Unknown Speaker 39:22
I’m gonna tell you. I had a whole visit with Coach, man. I was playing basketball at the time. So I got there like I was late because I was coming coming from my high school like all the way down. So, you know, he was sitting there he was at the house with my phones, you know, just waiting on me to give them a data card and say, you know, as a man that I’m coming so you know, you know, you know, co wavenet he gave you that look, look at the fear that

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he got to say

Unknown Speaker 39:56
you know what I’m saying now I was on my freshman year cuz he was a he was all low. No but he when when I got when I got home I kind of walked out I saw him look at me like he was over there so he switched and he showed me right in he showed me right then when he will go see about it was on me boy, he was only here I’m telling you that we it was I can’t I never forget redshirt freshman year LSU man, we were down at LSU and it was day 31. We ran dang count. We got him for nothing. We didn’t we didn’t get the first down today. Mike shot the gap. Well, not the mic but the wheel shot out. And then I picked up the mic. I was supposed to get the wheel. And I was coming out and walking off the field and he said he got it wrong. Hey, he’s

Marvin Constant 41:23
his favorite. Favorite saying, damn.

We were in practice one day. I don’t know if y’all were there yet. Not yet or not. But we in practice one day. Dustin McClintock mess up something

Unknown Speaker 41:41
Oh, Lord.

Marvin Constant 41:44
And Justin, What’s your major marine biology?

Justin Riley 42:15
Though besides Adi Williams, what were some of the challenges you guys face first got to Alabama.

Unknown Speaker 42:25
When I first stepped on campus, you know, I felt like I was one of the biggest things in my high school. You know, I’m only standing at about you know, six to two and a half 270 pounds on you know, man, that was the biggest thing walking around school. So my first day on campus, I see guys like you no big deal. Turns out zanda Dante ality and all these guys they’re sitting at like, you know, she is 663 300 plus biggest human beings. I looked at my dad’s like shoe size of the guys that was being recruited. Alabama was was was major man. Like I say, you know being the biggest drama High School I’ve never found to see guys that had so much hype so much size and being the same age as me you know, I always visualize it there’ll be older than me but coming in my same class and seeing the talent to me I remember coach saying, Hey, you know, can’t meet Mr. Football of Tennessee, you know, you know, meet Mr. Football of Florida. And they all play the same position. So I’m like, Man, you know, you look at now with social media everybody know where everybody’s going? Again, you didn’t know you hear about it, but you didn’t know until you stepped on campus. And you saw you know, four guys in your position or whatnot. You know, so that was a big shock for me seeing how much talent and how much size was was that Alabama wanted

Unknown Speaker 44:12
to thanks for me man. I think the first thing for me was is you know, okay, and I came from a small school in Tennessee you know, so we didn’t have like the biggest staff like coaching staff or whatever again, no, i o line coach was our D line coach, you know, so we, we kind of had spread coaster. So, you know, when I got there, I knew I thought I knew what was going on as far as football goes, You know, I I thought I knew football but I got I found out very quick that I had no clue what was going on for me, man. Right in front of you. And I get down here I get a coach Tell me man, take a six inch step in the zone is where I’m like man what is needed when I’m showing Do the scouting you know showing the guy where lineup and cause LVC is getting the three technique it causes dad is getting I can’t even get his toes I don’t even know what a three technique is nothing is a three technique Nick. It was outside so I was like well I can I can understand that there’s so much football that I did not know before I got

Unknown Speaker 45:28
in the program and I and I was like what was going on? The other thing was first guy ever blocked it I know it was cuz I was on freshman team was Cornelius Griffin. Oh

Unknown Speaker 45:53
man,

Unknown Speaker 45:54
this guy now was my height. He probably was big loser probably about 295 and I saw this cat walk out of the sauna with a six pack. I’m like wait a minute not seen anything like this in my life? I’ve never seen a dude that’s as tall as me. That’s almost as big as me with a six pack walking about you know, so with either one that blessed me coming into the coming into the SEC. He was knocking me all over the place. No, I was trying to figure out what was going on. I was already out of shape. I was tired. He was dogging me all those that would like to

Unknown Speaker 46:36
learn in the Football League. I’m gonna give them cash guy he got me right now. You gotta I

Justin Riley 46:44
can’t believe that. Man. How do you get eaten at Bert dining? What was he eating?

Marvin Constant 46:54
I love playing behind me.

Unknown Speaker 46:55
It’s crazy.

Marvin Constant 46:56
I’ll tell you a funny story back nice. McNeese came in in the same class. You know, he went to Juco I was a freshman, but we all class in 98. So we were sitting in the meeting room for a team meeting. We all sitting in there we talked briefly, I was talking to Kenny Smith because I had new kitty we’re leading with everybody in that topic. Cornelius walks in the room with shorts and one of the themes string tank top song When I say everybody

think about it. You think about the caliber of men in that room. 500 pounds Madame show me I’m talking to Katie Smith another dude who six to nine to five rocked up. kidneys walking. What lab was he made? I never liked it in my life. Real

Unknown Speaker 48:07
now i don’t i don’t know. When I got home. From Juco man. You gotta gain weight. Man. Next thing I know I’m in the group with Big D and losing weight. I’m like it next week. TJ Whoo.

Marvin Constant 48:53
Are you doing some stupid ish?

Hey, man, we got to get me on here to tell the story.

Stephen M. Smith 49:19
I didn’t play it Alabama. But I got my own trial and error at Alabama. I learned quickly what to record and what not to record. Now this took place this took place a couple of years back into practice and this was where I don’t know if South sunseri returned into their turn into the Italian Mafia or what the case was. But I remember our style saw had these linebackers the outside linebackers were going to pass rush drill. So my my cell going grab my camera thinking man, the fans don’t want to see this right here. So I’m set my camera. I turn it all the way to We’re on Christopher Island and Terrail Lewis. We’re turning right now. All of a sudden, here comes our son Sarah.

Unknown Speaker 50:10
Media. What

Unknown Speaker 50:10
are you doing?

Unknown Speaker 50:37
Man?

Stephen M. Smith 50:48
So one of my buddies recorded steel, so I was like, Josh, I see a camera.

Unknown Speaker 50:54
I was like, man.

Justin Riley 51:04
Now you talked about who you were up against, you know iron sharpens iron. You guys went head to head with Kenny and practice each day. Talk to us about those battles, and how y’all make each other better?

Unknown Speaker 51:18
suited

Unknown Speaker 51:21
as far as the competition goes with, you know, when I got to Alabama, I had never noticed besides kilda Morehead. You know, I had never on a consistent basis when against anybody like anything and all those guys know, Batman, I mean, obviously, you know, we we play week in and week out against the competition, but I always felt like because we practiced every day was better than any D line that we faced in a game we played. I said, Yeah, it was some guys. You know, there was some bad they were they were some real life. I beat it out a lot. He’s realized oh, I mean, you and I’m not even just talking about the T line you talk about that as well. I mean, you got cats like Marvin like has like Celine and Harry Hilbert and all these guys. I mean, these are real live cats out here man that’s making plays. I mean, you got a cat like Marvin that’s trying to come knock your head off every time you feel Oh, but then you got a cat likes to leave he’s trying to fucking I don’t know if I’m coming up on Bob and doesn’t mean

Unknown Speaker 52:32
brown

Unknown Speaker 52:35
he’s not gonna be bagging the bag. This is crazy if you really had to like concentrate on what’s on it that’s what that’s what you want if you want to play there you got to you got to you got first of all you got to know

Unknown Speaker 52:53
no doubt no biggie I gotta go tell us as you went you know what I mean? Like I come in so it’s more of a constant if Celine masala so I already got the store on him right so I’m good. Didn’t get me but I watched this. Like I stopped what I was doing to watch this. Brooks Daniels come down here on the Ricoh Porter and the next thing I see is Rico poured his feet over his eight miles now. Matthew now Brooks days was the smallest one. And he like makes me say okay, well you got this llama he’s been he’s fair. It’s not like he’s quick. No Brooks dang was small.

Unknown Speaker 53:43
Five pounds soaking wet.

Unknown Speaker 53:44
Yep. And he gave you all 195 pounds when he when he put it into you. I see my Rico Rico Puerto was known for that guy he want to pull and get nasty with me I promise you I seen Rico ported feet over his head and I just stopped what I was doing like oh my god like

Unknown Speaker 54:05
football is big time football right yes

Unknown Speaker 54:07
sir.

Unknown Speaker 54:09
wasn’t like the way Brooks got up because you know you can understand them Brooks

Stephen M. Smith 54:18
was my thing is what I mean. When they when they Celine the dog he became man cuz everybody talks about Celine.

Marvin Constant 54:29
He had a great mentor.

Justin Riley 54:35
what’s broken record has been anything like the town that Marvin put big Sam on his butt.

Unknown Speaker 54:47
Verification on that one.

Unknown Speaker 54:51
He told his story.

Justin Riley 54:51
He did tell the story. He did confirm it. Yeah, mommy told me about a time in practice where he put big family his butt

Marvin Constant 55:01
I dropped in a look. He turned a hole flip. All you heard was him jump up. He had a cat. I have no repeat.

Unknown Speaker 55:12
I can see.

Marvin Constant 55:15
He told me that it wasn’t me said Callaway

cuz I was a freshman year. Freshman do this to you.

Unknown Speaker 55:32
But he was he was one of them. He was so smart. He was strong. He was quick. He was fast. But the biggest thing was he was gonna stop coming. So he went to people he just like more often if you get him the rest of practice, head on the swivel, because he’s definitely coming like he’s never gonna make he was never tapping up. No.

Justin Riley 55:58
Okay, what was it like going against both these guys in practice? How did it make you better as a player?

Unknown Speaker 56:04
Man just again, like they was talking about just the talent. Did you fall, day in and day out on my journey started? Like, like coach Herron and everybody else my journey started with, with Chris Samuels, you know, so I get that as a freshman. And of course, you know, you count on the second and third team, you have to go against the first team. So it’s true freshmen, I’m going against Chris Samuels every day, and he beat me every day. And it was over and over and over to a point you either don’t just take it or you don’t get better. And I think he he made me better. And I remember the first time I beat him, I was super excited. And he looked at me as say, a freshman that never happened again. That product came in for two more weeks, right and I beat him again. And then I think I had we might have had like a little hit something hurting him for a minute. But I tried to take advantage of that for a couple of weeks of beating them and then getting a big deal you know big deal was huge hand size and get hands on your man it was over. And my biggest thing was just trying to use my quickness try not to get let them get a hold of me. But one thing did get a hold of the man he was pretty much through Atlas Atlas had two quick feet you know Atlas, you know he’s going ego on set on you real quick before you can get out of your stance and get up here he gonna sit on you be waiting for you. So you know, all over again, different different styles of play. big, deep and aggressive. Putting this weight on you on getting you out of there. And animals having quick feet, putting yourself in a position to block you before you get started. But again, level competition man is all better. And what made me a better player.

Marvin Constant 57:57
I got a question for you though. Yes, yes. Yeah, we had Kenny Smith on before and I and I had to get candy for this. Being a fellow D lineman. You know, I play linebacker. So what was it like playing with Kenny when half the time we got stuck calling plays call Kenny doing what the hell?

Unknown Speaker 58:31
May I remember? Just today? We call you know, it was like a twister. You know, kid kid is supposed to hit the big gap. I’m supposed to come easily hit the big gap go out to see. I was supposed to step inside go inside man. When I say cannon didn’t run it. I ran to him hit him. We both fall. Like hey, he cussed me out. Like

Unknown Speaker 59:09
we go to the meetings and we watch him fail. And I’m like, Hey, we have a teenager. He’d be like no.

Unknown Speaker 59:23
younger man. So

Unknown Speaker 59:40
I thought I’d try and identify what it was a spot call on film so I don’t get in trouble. Get it doing whatever he wanted to do. I got my hand and l trying to let everybody know signal film that we’re gonna run and hit him right now.

Marvin Constant 1:00:00
Find it. Oh, I used to around you all the time. I didn’t do do whatever the hell he wanted to do. We will be in games kid. I’m going Kenny that ain’t what we got called your job man. No kidding Are you kidding me man my job and not have to worry about what you’re supposed to be doing and how to fix what you’re doing is gonna be wrong because you create a huge hole because you are We are here when you’re supposed to be inside man I see something Kenny you ain’t nothing man.

Stephen M. Smith 1:00:37
My cousin boom magazine saying the same stuff on pro gampopa approach I saw him

Marvin Constant 1:00:46
he would it would be before the ball even snap going I’m going to see something at snap the ball Ain’t nobody motion yet. quarterback. I made no audibles yet. So what do you see from the time that made you do what you gotta do Kim? Oh, but you know the worst part about him in meeting with Lance Thompson. He asked him about what he sees

Unknown Speaker 1:01:33
I got one better

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him his ship

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or a stay going?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:41
Oh

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that was that was time.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:47
Yeah. See,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:49
I came I used to come up for spring practice. So I was spring practice I used to sit in the meetings. So Kenny cannon and ship are good at it. You know ship get on Ken about what he didn’t do or whatnot. And Ken it goes on, you know ship big do ship totally one day. He was like Hi, you want to talk to me Lysol, and let’s see. What you gonna do. When I say she’ll cut the lights off. And all you heard was just rumbling cut the lights on on air miles on the wall?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:25
No, no.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:32
No. First Koshi

Marvin Constant 1:02:34
and I told Kenny man we can’t he taught the wild bison kid you know I had double figures in almost every game I played in tackles I’ll see if you’d have done your job. You don’t have any more towels I would have

it was like baby because I kid you not you think about if the defensive tackle is lined up in the shade on the goal. But he didn’t lose all the way out around the dam tight in how big of a hole he creates. So now I got to take on the God and the tackle. And you notice when you’re trying to run the damn ball to God to tackle the fullback and his meat. Like Come on.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:21
funniest thing I ever see was coming to watch breakfast I go, Oh, come on watch. Or you know how to own land in a diorama do they want on walls? Why would they were getting the fight kitty? Kitty.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:47
No kidding.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:48
No kidding.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:56
Every team needs a kidney man.

Marvin Constant 1:04:21
You know, I’ve never seen a cast of characters. Coaches like that cast of characters. You got to think about it. You had Neil Callaway who you had coached cheese who made out of DVDs go to church. He will come knocking on the doors and the windows.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:48
Cheese tomato. Kevin,

Unknown Speaker 1:04:49
what do you like

Unknown Speaker 1:04:53
to talk about that?

Justin Riley 1:04:56
more detail about that.

Marvin Constant 1:04:58
I’ll tell you though, we will actually Plan Oh Miss primetime game on CBS.

Stephen M. Smith 1:05:04
Oh man, CBS

Marvin Constant 1:05:05
Charlie Harvey said he had but Phil weeks on the sidelines. They get into it. So we got to break up the fight on the sidelines. Not the game. We play in Miami. We plan in my opinion. Adam Damn. It was always something man. He’s like, it’s always something.

Justin Riley 1:05:41
I don’t know how to follow that up. It really should. Absolutely. Netflix needs to get. Especially Kenny.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:55
Can’t he reminded me of Tony brown man.

Marvin Constant 1:06:00
Danny was always doing something.

Stephen M. Smith 1:06:06
Tony intimidating folks told me what we all knew Tony had a couple of screws loose now.

Marvin Constant 1:06:20
Listen, man, Kenny took me to Mardi Gras with him one time.

We will probably all end up in some type of hot water. And

Justin Riley 1:06:45
one of the things I’ll talk about is that 2010 games great season, but we were on probation. How good was that team? and What kept you guys motivated, even though all you had to play for is pride, no bowl game or anything?

Unknown Speaker 1:07:01
Right. I think it was more on just, you know, everybody had an option to kind of leave. And I mean, we all came to Alabama for a reason. And of course to try to win a national championship in the see that, you know, we’re sitting on probation. And we had a pretty good team. And my thing was, I wanted to stay because I wanted to prove everybody, you know, had an undefeated season, to say whoever won the national championship was not the champions because we were we wasn’t in that championship, but get how to get run. We ended up playing Hawaii at the end of going to Hawaii, which was a great trip. But at the end of the day, it was it was really bad. In fact, it was on probation. But again, I’m glad I stayed I’m glad I finished the year off with with the boys and got the job done that year.

Justin Riley 1:08:01
Right. It’s amazing because you know, and most circumstances like that players will either left like you said, or they wouldn’t be as motivated to play just because all they had to play for is pride. But you guys really played like every game was for national championship. I mean, y’all came with a fire and a passion, every single game and be honest with you. If y’all got to play in the national championship, y’all would have smoked whoever it was. I think Miami went that year. Maybe I would have smoked Miami would have been close.

Stephen M. Smith 1:08:30
Although Was it my end? It was Ohio State

Unknown Speaker 1:08:33
2002

Stephen M. Smith 1:08:35
Yeah, I think Ohio State one.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:39
Thank you was nothing but my dad. Yeah.

Justin Riley 1:08:52
Yeah, that’s something always stuck out to me for sure. What was your favorite moments of Alabama? I’ll start with you, Kenny.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:02
My favorite moments man is just just being with the guys. I mean, I had a great time. It was it was a special time just because just because, you know, we talked about being on probation. You talk about all the things you went through. You know, we went through a lot like when I talked about Alabama people’s like who you play for I was like man. I played Mike DuBose. I played for Dennis French. He only has seen my price come in for two weeks.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:43
For two weeks.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:50
You say you say my prayers coming in for two weeks Dan? Shula hosted on pro day leaving man I went through the gauntlet and Big DNA this course went through the gauntlet to man and and just to see all that but no one that a you stuck it out you you was there but man just the pride of playing with the guy sticking it out and Stan was was the best time of my life man and I enjoyed it. And I enjoy just you know from the highlands to rose towers.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:24
Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:26
Hanging out with everybody I mean just doing crazy stuff man just know seeing guys on top of roofs, you know, shooting BB guns.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:44
Memories

Marvin Constant 1:10:46
before social media

Unknown Speaker 1:11:08
we look

Unknown Speaker 1:11:11
around each other, hang with each other. And I always tell our team these these days now, y’all hang like if y’all try to be successful. Yeah, we’ll never hang with each other. Y’all don’t know anything about each other. And I think that’s different when it comes to social media now, man, they will, they will sit next to each other and be on social media interact through the phone versus sitting with each other. So that was the best time of my life to just get been around the guys enjoy having fun, getting in trouble getting out of trouble and

Justin Riley 1:11:47
I agree with that caveat. I had you know almost all of my classes while I was at Alabama and I saw you with the guys like huddled up in every class having a great time and y’all y’all tripped me out I was laughing so hard. But yeah, man you right it’s all about that coming together being close knit you know and that like you said social media is ruined and all that but yeah, man that’s that’s one of the reasons why we were so successful in the days y’all. Y’all were a true family. I mean y’all are with each other 24 seven but I go to Atlas now what was your favorite memory in Alabama?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:21
I could say the same like it was crazy that you know once you get to that next level in that field how the biggest thing was everybody was like the I really hate like that I’m not Yeah, because going back to eight eight and Alabama was a big deal. Like the planning store the day after a day you start playing the next year. Like y’all really like yeah, we really do that. Like Like for instance if I see more than right now we probably like six to three hours get carried away by the time him Rico pours tonight. Excellent great grilling and fillet and fish in front of us.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:05
Good day was the best cook like relationship like like every year you just look forward Okay, man This time we’re going home Memphis in May. Next year be going here man. Next year we go into the senior bowl here like it was just a family everybody hung together Don’t get me wrong we handsome man but we have come to the company. Oh, man

Marvin Constant 1:13:35
but you know what the Atlas is funny you said that man. He got in trouble for skipping class and go fishing.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:48
When we we cooked that fish and he I was out there man. Hey reason somebody just wake up Hey, man. I think I’m going fishing. Man really bad the relationship but

Justin Riley 1:14:25
they did. What about you? What was your favorite moment?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:30
From these guys, man. I mean, it was.

Marvin Constant 1:14:33
Timeout, Timeout. Timeout.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:35
We go.

Justin Riley 1:14:37
Something’s coming.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:38
I’m big. Big D

Unknown Speaker 1:14:46
big like that. Now. I was about like 365

Unknown Speaker 1:14:49
and what were you driving?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:52
Was I didn’t drive when I first

Unknown Speaker 1:14:55
but what what was your first call when you got

Unknown Speaker 1:14:57
my first my first car was a Grand Marquis. Hey, look, I just got rid of it a little while ago I

Marvin Constant 1:15:09
wrote a reason I brought that up was I brought it to a story. You remember the Grand Marquis. And you remember when I first stopped playing, I was working for the sheriff’s department. So I would tell the story. I was working for the sheriff’s department, right? I see big dv Grand Marquis. He got Todd Jones and I’m pretty sure they had been out having a few lives. But I see Charles hanging out the passenger wonder he just had to have some fun.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:10
Oh, my gosh,

Justin Riley 1:16:11
got a video on that, Marvin.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:14
We know nothing on

Unknown Speaker 1:16:24
the AMA weeks, man. It was all about us. Just Hey. And I think that was intentional man. You know, I think the coaches they let us do this stuff on purpose, man. I mean, I’m not saying it was a bad thing or nothing. But it’s good that you like each other, you know, in order to be to be that good. So like that whole week, man after the spring game was over with man and we just, you know, every day is something great. We got something going on. We got a, you know, a pool party, we got a lot going on, we got to step out and step celeborn fan, I’m telling them the stem cells was off the chain all the time. And, you know, just being able to do that stuff. In Highlands, you know, I can’t speak enough about the I know, they all got, you know, stores about the house. But the highlands You know, it was like we were all right there together. You know what, it was nothing for him to for you to walk out of

Unknown Speaker 1:17:31
here with no clothes. Oh. You know, what we used to do? We used to take our couches, pull them out of the rooms, and put a table in the middle of a car sitting on the couches outside.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:53
And

Marvin Constant 1:17:55
don’t forget about the TV and one. tv.

Unknown Speaker 1:18:01
You know, looking at the TV, it was just so much stuff. So I’m saying like that that stuff right there. You know, we have some times in some moments where we got out of control.

Marvin Constant 1:18:16
But you know the thing about it though, Big D Man, these kids today, they’ll never experienced that because social media and camera phones won’t allow them to have that level of brotherhood fun. Because everybody always want to record record. You’re cool. You You know, we didn’t have phones taken away from our time to bond and just enjoy life. Now every time you see somebody they want to record something. Yeah, we weren’t really worried about recording them. We were worried about enjoying the moment. People understand how that moment brings teams together. It’s a lot. It’s a lot easier for me to have your back when I know you and we spend time together. And I don’t know you, man, you do what you want to do. I’m gonna do what I want to do, you know, in the camaraderie of the team,

Stephen M. Smith 1:19:01
no, no. Do you want to know probably the funniest moment from my time in Alabama. Nearly the funniest moment was that his funniest moment and me and my man Jay Leno and Joe talk about this regardless now. So it goes back about freshman year. And this is what LSU had beat us nine to six and we go back to Harris Hall, which is still up right now. And the morning after the morning after about Sunday morning. I’m sleep I got my bandana on and so the police comes to my door knocking on my door it’s banging on my door. So I get up and I go the door. I’m like we got a problem here. He’s like Mr. Smith we got we see the joy sister drugs on this floor. My drugs. Mr. Smith, they got the drugs on this floor when they saw my main job, my man Joe Walker, his room man they call Steve with the chronic

Joe Joe he says so there are other man Cameron pick him out of his room like what’s going on? Joe like the constant comp Steve with the drugs man I told you Steve was a bad influence there two other phones came out room man look at Steve and Steve you know I my job if you don’t take the hang of a kill you right in the middle of the hallway police the police is gonna walk all the way down to the end of the hallway. And they go to my man Jeremy room Jeremy up at the dome. It’s like a fool Snoop Dogg meets Wiz Khalifa smoking session and Jeremy So Jamie like, hey, police was popping I was going on. To jammy jam in the car. Hey, Joe. Jeremy. Oh, hey, go show AC but then catch with the week. But you got the cocaine. Alright. You said the cocaine. All right. Joe, shut up, man.

Marvin Constant 1:21:24
Joe just tried to throw you under the bus.

Stephen M. Smith 1:21:26
I’ll promise you man. That night. That was crazy. Cuz I’m literally walking out. my dorm though. They sit here right? They’re like Mr. Smith. We know the drugs are right here. I got him. And Joe go grab the room. osnap. Bro. They got Steve with the chronic. They got him. Oh, man five.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:51
Yeah,

Justin Riley 1:21:53
guys, we all run short on time. So I do want to ask a few more questions before we go. What’s impressive about our teams during your time at Albion was not only do we have great players, but a lot of you have found great success as being coaches. Can y’all talk about that?

Unknown Speaker 1:22:11
Let’s start with the big day. Yeah, man.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:14
You know, obviously no one wants once I got done playing like I’m excited to see it. You know, I play for a little while and they ended up sending me over to NFL Europe. And that’s where I got hurt. And the while I was over there, man, I met a lot of people know the guy that was over the wall, the hill, the health issues over I guess the leak was Mayfield Armstrong. And, you know, he kind of got me know, started doing you know, he was watching me play a little bit. You know, he saw I was communicating with other guys on the team during the NFL Europe stuffing. Once I got back over here and I did all my stuff. You know, by that time, I’d had about three surgeries in two years. So it was pretty much done for me man. And he introduced me to a guy at Bessemer city named William waddle. And he was the head coach over there at the time and as we go Ryan’s on school actually disappeared. And you know, he introduced me to him and he got me on staff over there I actually started off being like a substitute teacher slash hall monitor so they had me run around school all day chasing guys in class and all that you wouldn’t run around running it I was running I was running in but uh, but you haven’t that’s where I got my started man I started off being an old guy man and you know just trying to you know, get those guys are good and we have real real good success. And then we were sending guys off to schools. I was like, what maybe this you know, this is what I need to do. Yeah. So I just stuck with it. Man. I end up coming to here Colton stayed there three years and sucked for two years. Third year, we ended up pretty good, but we had a couple games. And we wanted to bring on personally so I left here and went to chase Valley for a year and Kosta chaise Valley and now I’m here at essentially on a Juco level and it’s all fun, and if I don’t I don’t feel like I’m working to date ever when I get up. No, I’m just I’m just coming to have fun every day. I like to you know, just spending time with these guys and getting to know them. Yeah, getting the you know, to you know, to help them out in their lives. And you know, I see myself in them a lot. You know, they’re coming in as young freshmen young first time away from home and they don’t know anybody and they’re trying to learn football and you know, time management and all this stuff that comes with you know, play college football. So, you know, it’s been a good ride. I’m planning on doing it for the next 30 years to be honest. It’s been funny, I’ve been hearing each session is Going on My eight year old line coach in the run game coordinator. So I know a lot of you know, just like just like how I thought I knew ball when I first got to Alabama, you know, I thought I knew a lot of ball when I got it. It’s another side of that you got to learn in the coaching world too. And our head coach over his name’s Ken Carson. And he’s been a he’s a guru in my opinion. He’s one of my mentors but he’s you know, kind of letting you know you know, do it my own way and we’ve had some fun though. We’ve had some up and down years but you know, you see is a big play this is home for us right now for sure. I got my you know, my wife and my son and my board all here, man. You know, we love it, man. So we you know, he says it’s been good.

Justin Riley 1:25:47
No doubt cable about you.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:51
Well, my arm just talking about kind of my journey of getting into coaching. I was out in Arizona, I was staying out there, kind of made that my home. And I actually got into you football. So I was in youth football. I ran a league out there called luxury sports had at one point 3600 participants in a big large organization. And I coached in it and then ran the organization. And when doing that, I realized that man I want to continue coaching so kind of gotten a high school coach and out there. Had a couple gigs before I landed at Hamilton High School. Hamilton is a big time school out there in Arizona. A lot of a lot of championships, a few national championships, and just one of those powerhouse schools and was able to to coast there and do it myself. And then had the job here at Daphne come open. My dad called and said actually wasn’t ready. And I told him I’m okay. But he was telling me that I mean, come on back home and I think it was that time so I got the job period daffin just completed five years. This was the best year yet and I’ll be antenna to man had a great time. And enjoy myself man. So again, you know, like coach, like big decent man, I enjoy coming back home coaching and high school that I attended was big for me also on the fact that I get to do with my fellow friends and like coach Heron and just being from Canada from Daphne coming back to death and and coaching that death man seeing the big cool thing I think is actually coaching the kids of the people that you went to school with. So you know, kinda about temperament you know, you know, who’s going to be lazy, okay, who’s going to be the know it alls Go Go out and put in the work, you know, who needs that extra push, and also is good when they come up missing. You call mom and dad and they say Come get him, which is also a plus, man. Just join, join this gig. Like say I go to work every day. And I can do it for free. It’s just what I enjoy. So that’s that’s kind of my journey and and continuing to go down this road and see where it takes me.

Marvin Constant 1:28:43
Well, I got a shout out real quick to you know, we talked about the bonds and brotherhood that we develop while playing college ball. It’s amazing how far they extend beyond when even when that time is over. So when I was working on my PhD, my PhD was a split program. And I went to Grand Canyon for my PhD so half the time I would have to be out there half the time I will be here but I’m in Arizona ha ha Mac I’m out here foot have alone. Let’s go hang out. show love hung out with you, boy when I’ll be out there. Again. Thank you, brother man. Again, you never know how far those buttons will take you because you could have never told me I would have been working on my PhD in Arizona hanging out Kenny and say Matt

Justin Riley 1:29:31
Hello, Alice if you follow in with what they’re saying content talks about your journey and

Unknown Speaker 1:29:49
I was the old way. Like I was actually finishing up my career professionally and I finished up in The old AFL, the arena football, where you’re working for you, there you go be a school teacher or substitute or what have you the other year, so I went and did that. And I was coming back and I was the OCS teacher is FP which kids get in trouble. So didn’t come in and sit in it. And I’m just sitting in decide, okay, man, I’m gonna finish my message that I’m just sitting this room babysitting all day. And I was actually working out in the crazy part about it. He is a he actually came full circle for me, because I met Bill cop who was the defense coordinator, Alabama down here, who’s not at USC, you know. So I ended up talking to him having conversation with him, because his son was coming to the place I was actually working out to keep in shape and all that to get ready to go and play here. Well, he introduced me a guy, Mark Freeman, who’s at Thompson high school now the little powerhouse in Alabama. And he talked me into coaching. And I told him three times every year, no, no, no, finally, that fourth year, I was like, You know what, why not? So I get out there. I’m thinking about the store coaching, and he throws me on the D line. And I’m like, Hey, man, I’m in on the side of the ball with you. He was like, what, coach? You’ve been blocking all your life, I’m pretty sure you know, what is your problem, just keep doing that. So next thing I know, I’m coating to the line. And the first year was a breeze just flew by. We know when the state championship has been in for high school when that next year went by, and we went back and was in it again. And in my third year, we want to begin and that was the year with my son. Well, with the way I see it come full circle, I thought I hit my first Alabama kid from coaching my child who does not know that I’m gonna go make my own name. I want to go there. I’m like, You gotta be kidding me. So he goes, and I’m sitting around here and the crazy part to this day when he was down there playing my day, they go down, they win the rig and all that and I’m down there. And to this day, people look at me crazy, because I will literally go down and we’re all black to the game. Like, I’m like, I’m not winning. Like if I had, like, come on. It’d be sitting the closet like, I just couldn’t do it. What about it? When I say come full circle? What have you got down there? I think it’s time for me to go in. He ended the cord. And next thing I know, the first guy kind of talked to him within taught me and the coach and Bill caught nice. He was like that I think I’m gonna go up there and a couple other coaches. I ended up meeting in my my former trainer Lao Hanley is, is the director of strength conditioning up there. And what happened in extra big TJ son, the youngest, Jason is up there, doing strength conditioning as well. And I’m like, Man, that’s the perfect truck for me all that’s my family. Like, yeah, come on, let’s go. So, you know, it’s just one of the things now I’m back home, which may cause kinks that we just never don’t do is come back home and I’m actually the defensive coordinator for him here. He taught me to come back home and I was like, Man, I’m not doing it. But like cupcakes a man is so fun. Don’t get me Don’t sit on long clock. I just get up in the morning. Jumping on ready to go.

Marvin Constant 1:33:09
I got one question for you.

Unknown Speaker 1:33:11
Oh,

Marvin Constant 1:33:14
does he let you coach in the go books?

Hey, man, listen, I gotta tell ya something, man. I’m I’m very envious of all three of y’all. Man. I’m proud of y’all. I love you guys. Because I wanted to coach but the way my knees set up, you know, first two years it just didn’t work so well for me not because like my knees, man. I’ll be in pain need for like, I realized that that wasn’t really gonna work for me long term. But it was definitely something that I wanted to do, but just the whole nice setup situation guy. So yeah, man. I’m extremely proud of all y’all man. And I got to come down for you, man. I’m telling you man. Oh man. I’ve been to a lot of the guys who I played with who Kotaku I’ve been to a lot of the games but this year because the COVID I didn’t get to go visit anybody but I try to go visit at least two or three guys that I played with who coach every year so I’m definitely gonna put out on my 2021 list man I want to come to Daphne and catch our games man. I got to come to Mississippi catch big D because again man at least two or three times a year I like to go watch my guys play man

Unknown Speaker 1:34:36
Come on down baby. Come on.

Marvin Constant 1:34:38
Man. I got a whole fiance now so I know how to behave. By getting to know Trump.

Justin Riley 1:34:47
I’ll make a few trips to suppose to East Central. I’m right down the road from you big day. I’m just outside Jackson. Okay, so yeah, to make it a point to come down there.

Unknown Speaker 1:34:57
Yeah, man. Come on, man. Come on.

Marvin Constant 1:35:00
Yeah, we’ve had to wrap the show up in a minute because they turn the power off.

Justin Riley 1:35:07
Yeah, I’m running off a generator here in the trailer park. Before we go is a few things. Marvin, tell us how the book is doing with some latest news is and all that good stuff.

Marvin Constant 1:35:20
Man. The book is sold out again, man. So I can’t keep a man. I don’t know what’s going on why people want this book so bad. But I mean, it’s a blessing. Huh?

Unknown Speaker 1:35:38
book? The book does.

Marvin Constant 1:35:40
Yeah, the book does what the book does, man. It’s amazing. If you go on my Instagram, you regularly see people who use the book who’ve lost a lot of weight who changed their bodies, who feeling good about themselves who no longer taking medication, they’re healthy. Again, you see me right now to 15. I haven’t been to 15 since I was in eighth grade man. So it’s a blessing man.

Justin Riley 1:36:03
Glad to hear that. Tune in next week, guys, we had to have another great show. We’re gonna have former Alabama, Alabama player, Chris john Jones, one of the most dynamic watersavers and kick returns and also one of the funniest guys right now on the internet. He’s got an ongoing series on his Instagram and YouTube called coach Jones. So if you hadn’t seen that before next week, check it out. Real quick. Before we go, if you would give us a few closing remarks. Tell us what’s next for you. And then how we can find you on social media. We’ll start with you Kenny. Are you on social media anymore? No, I’m

Unknown Speaker 1:36:41
not on social media.

Unknown Speaker 1:36:49
me That’s why I stopped laughing. I’m the first to go. But again, man, I’ll stay here at my school and and continue the tradition down here. But you can always follow us on Twitter at Daphne FB Trojans so that’s again Daphne FB Trojans, on on Twitter. And again, we have a lot of things going on as we prepare for for the next season. You know we do a 707 here that we host him summer so we invite into teams that want to come down and and get into some 707 we’re doing that in the summer and Dan again, will will prepare get ready for the season but definitely follow us follow this journey as a Trojan.

Marvin Constant 1:37:43
Oh, real quick. Y’all going to the senior bowl. I was talking to Derek about you know his nephew is Jeremiah moon play fraud. Jeremiah is going to the CBOE this year. So, I mean, there’s we’re talking about shooting down to the senior bowl man. So y’all gonna be an area man. I’ll let y’all know if we come down.

Unknown Speaker 1:38:00
Okay, let us know. Okay, yeah.

Justin Riley 1:38:03
What about you big decent close remarks. What’s next for you? And then how can we find you on social media?

Unknown Speaker 1:38:10
Oh, yeah, man, this was good man. I got this I got this text message from from cost man about two o’clock today man about getting over here, man. So this is this was awesome is I’m actually trying to manage my guys instead of hauling across the room that’s got a few knuckleheads working class so but but this is good, man. This is good. I think we need to do more of this. It together, you know, COVID stuff is going on. everybody’s life is kind of altered right now. But you know, it’s all this stuff is over. My wife. I got to get out of this area, get out of my house. You know, do something that you know, is coming in. But yeah, I mean, I’m over here at East Central PD.

Marvin Constant 1:39:01
No, you know, if COVID Calm down, come at you know, I got it, right. No.

Unknown Speaker 1:39:11
But yeah, man, my social media is at Dennis a 7373. That’s on Twitter. That’s the one I work off of mainly, you know, I use it mostly for recruiting but, you know, you have some guys out there that are looking to go to dupo route. Some guys that are looking for a home and don’t have grades. You know, just like I tell all these bruises not you know, you got a chance to get re recruited again, man. So, you know, hit me up at a 7373 we have a limited amount of scholarships who would not like to canceling we don’t have an unlimited amount. We’re limited. You know, we get a lot of good players that are comfortable in our league and through our program. Just a quick shout out to Antonio Gibson a running back for the Redskins. He played right here three years ago. You got a dream if you got the dream it can continue oh man

Justin Riley 1:40:05
no no I Atlas What about you?

Unknown Speaker 1:40:08
Oh yeah man I’m on Twitter at man there’s my handle on G seven five live the word seven the number five and yeah man yeah in Italian vacation you come down to this port because I know more than load of fish you know I’m dying here Matter of fact Anton Oh, he on the I don’t have

Marvin Constant 1:40:35
to respond to my last message I sent him to

Unknown Speaker 1:40:39
if I didn’t get him respond the same way

Unknown Speaker 1:40:48
and it wasn’t a play with them it was the new flavor you got going on.

Unknown Speaker 1:40:54
Man I got this man. I got this jalapeno Penny is going to be covered again. I got Of course my my boys put me on the lemon pepper hunt you know? Which I do have my own wings by the car what clucking of wings and fries is in Bay minette Alabama. Put it where my wife works but if you come down this way, man you coming down Highway 59 in a minute. You’re stopping what’s clucking and tell him I sit

Unknown Speaker 1:41:26
with you?

Unknown Speaker 1:41:27
Yeah

Unknown Speaker 1:41:30
well you know me you can be like me you

Unknown Speaker 1:41:40
call me when the chicken wing eating contest. You better

Marvin Constant 1:41:49
I’m allowed to do now so I ain’t no threat. Nobody

Unknown Speaker 1:41:57
is really gonna be a wingsuit

Marvin Constant 1:42:05
man I used to go to Buffalo Wild Wings. Lisa had them 50 cent wings, Watling whatever they will tell me in 25 or 30 week increments.

Unknown Speaker 1:42:17
Hey, they bought a bomb. I was though in Tuscaloosa that bad?

Unknown Speaker 1:42:24
Man I could

Marvin Constant 1:42:26
eat my wings with no fries and no ranch man, try to keep the carbs out.

Justin Riley 1:42:32
But guys, it’s been a pleasure, mate with you guys. I always love when we can get guys from our air. Like I said earlier. It’s very special because I feel like our era was probably one of the best areas. It’s not talked about enough. That one of the biggest things I noticed, like I said earlier was the close knit relationships as always been huge. And something needs to be preached continuously. I’m sure you preach that to your your players. But we love to have y’all back. I feel like we need a part two to this because I feel like there’s a lot more to be talked about. So yeah, if you’re up for it, I’d love to have a part to this. But

Marvin Constant 1:43:07
we don’t bring Kenny Smith back for part two so we can talk about

Unknown Speaker 1:43:16
get up in the morning.

Marvin Constant 1:43:20
Their night baby. Every day was a different adventure when we were in school.

Unknown Speaker 1:43:32
One day, you know limit sold the next day.

Marvin Constant 1:43:37
Know what but you know what I’m wanting to know. Yeah. So what was he?

Justin Riley 1:43:59
Yeah, again, guys. If y’all still want some more football, Marvin is actually going beyond to take and about 10 minutes so George take showed. If y’all not check that out. Great show. He’s been on our show several times. Him and Antonio laying them and it’s a mess every time they get on here. Probably one of the most funniest experiences you’ll ever have. But yeah, definitely check out Marvin a few minutes. But yeah, again, guys, thank you so much. Been a great show. Look forward to having y’all back.

Unknown Speaker 1:44:27
Thank you, fellas. Thank you. Thank you.

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