The Tampa Bay Buccaneers has signed Tom Brady as their starting quarterback for a deal worth roughly $30 million per year. A move that was speculative, but still a mystery. Santiago Leon, Caillou Borden and Victor Arocho are the contributors.
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Santiago Leon
The sports cast March 18 2020. If you haven’t yet subscribed to all our channels YouTube, Periscope and iTunes, and if you’re an iTunes please leave a rating and review it will help us out tremendously. And visit us on the sports cast dotnet for the latest on NFL free agency. Today’s sponsor is the Bible create verses in pictures you get the Insta Bible app in the Apple App Store. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers made some noise yesterday signing the greatest of all time quarterback named Tom Brady. And a deal that’s worth $30 million dollars per year. A move that was speculative, but still a mystery. And joining us a double duty today the duo. We got Caillou Borden and Victor a roadshow. Welcome to the sports cast. Thank you for having me. We’re excited is a lot to talk about. There’s a lot to talk about. We haven’t our full show, and we’ll go with Caillou. Kyla, what were your first thoughts when Brady got signed with the with the Buccaneers?
Caillou Borden
I wasn’t as shocked as him leaving knowing I was more shocked that he loved doing and go to Tampa I thought it was gonna be more than chargers. I wasn’t really shocked.
Santiago Leon
Victor, were you shocked? Or you’d really care?
Victor Arocho
No, I was shocked. I’ll be honest with you, you know, from from the beginning. I said that if there was a fit, I think he should go to the charges because the whole thing they were talking about, he wants to go west. And then it made sense that you know, he was gonna go to the Titans and I think Caillou mentioned that or Justin because they had a good running back. I was just thinking, why would they get rid of a quarterback I Tannenbaum brought him there. But because of rabl the tempo wasn’t even on my radar.
Victor Arocho
I mean, I’m I’m happy that he’s in Florida. I get to go over there to watch him.
Santiago Leon
I was thinking more chargers. Caillou, because, you know, he started a movie production company last week. And then you know, charges would have been a good spies from California. But then people were saying, well, he’s not much of a Hollywood guy either. What are your thoughts?
Caillou Borden
Me?
Santiago Leon
Yeah.
Caillou Borden
I wasn’t really yeah, I wasn’t really thinking box since 97 shakes. They have a 387 win percentage 73.5% passer rating off 36% completion percentage, which is the worst at night to 77. So I wasn’t really thinking that he was going to go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Those would be the Titans or
Victor Arocho
was that Caillou? You went fast. Who has those stats?
Caillou Borden
On a Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1976? They have a 387 win percentage.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, that’s terrible. No, yeah, yeah. But, but you know, remember they got rebuilt with with Dungey and then, and Gruden. You don’t I mean, they’re there. They didn’t pretty well with Jamison Winston. They got some good weapons there. I mean, and if they get Antonio Brown, I mean, that’s gonna be a tough team. It’s not gonna be easy, but it’s gonna be tough.
Santiago Leon
What happens…
Caillou Borden
Yeah, go ahead. No, I do. I do agree. I think they all this will be Tom Brady’s tos to see we have Mike Evans. I started West Walter doing element Deion branch and Troy Brown. So this will be to talk.
Victor Arocho
Separately though. Sorry.
Santiago Leon
No, no. Go ahead.
Caillou Borden
Yeah. Did they have some really good weapons in town beta oj Howard. A really good tight end they have Mike Evans. So Cameron brakes are really good, though. They have some weapons possibly. It’s still at Antonio Brown. No, he was talking about that. There’ll be a possibility Yeah. Yeah,
Victor Arocho
that will make him stat there other Titan is good too. They got two good Titans. They got great receivers. I forgot it was talking about tight tight tight but whose other tight was either you are just and the other guy then they were talking about? It’s really good. Who’s the other type? Oh, yeah, he’s good. They got the leader in sacks on the other side
Caillou Borden
to kill bear. Yeah,
Victor Arocho
I mean
Santiago Leon
stacked there. So Caillou, like you were saying this is the best team that Brady will ever command
Caillou Borden
Yeah, I definitely think it’s I definitely think is there but I think in the NSE there’s no easy games because again, I still think that all the things with Drew Brees reopening the walls are not two years. I still think that dumbly Teddy Bridgewater will be a big hit. This case Drew Brees offered as an insurance for Teddy Bridgewater, but I do think that still NFC, they’re still like games that they’re going to have to go through. And I still think that defense has a lot of improvement to me is there is the other
Victor Arocho
Defense, Caillou
Caillou Borden
camp, I still think that I still think that they need to improve. And I also think that there’s there’s a learning curve and they’re not used to winning. I do think that they can have this as a culture of losing. They’re gonna have to learn how to win and I think there’s something to be said that
Victor Arocho
changes the day Brady signed Well, I am, he’s gonna walk in and he’s like a Jeter, he’s like, I’m telling you, he’s gonna walk in and those guys are gonna be so enamored and his work ethic he leads by example. So he’s not walking in and telling you he’s like a Jordan, you know, he’ll be out there early, he’s gonna do all that that entire atmosphere changes. And if they get Tonio Brown, it’s even more because now they’re saying, Oh, God, man, they’re really building us up to be a winning team. And remember, if I was playing with Brady, I’m going to get a bigger contract later because he’s going to make me look good.
Caillou Borden
I do agree. I do agree. However, I do think ownership intent based. It hasn’t been the greatest ownership. And I do think that delta craft for the last 20 years and winning your division 17 titles, I don’t think that you’re automatically locked in when your division plus you’re in the harder conference, even with the expanded playoff. You’re in a harder conference. And I don’t think you could get better than the craft and the jerry jones of the world so
Victor Arocho
No, no, no, wait a second, but I I’m separating, I’m separating the two. Right I am saying to you you had you had your comment was you know they gotta change the losing mentality they have to have the winning the championship mentality. So I was answering that part to the fact that Brady immediately by signing them, it changes it. Those guys know his work ethic. He’s He’s in sustainability. So all I’m saying to you, the second they sign them the second they walk into him. He’s good. He’s gonna have like that ninja glow about them. That team is ready. They’re championship ready now that I mean that is the ticket sales just went through the roof. So these fans are excited if I was a player, I don’t know about you. It’s like playing with Jordan or Kobe. You gotta be kidding me, bro. Okay, now on Now hold on on the other side. I agree with you. It’s the walk in the park. He’s got to play Drew Brees twice. And he’s got to pay the Panthers twice. Rogers he’s got a game against robot is have to play him twice. Yeah. enter this division, you know, he’s you know, who was he playing in an East but you know, Drew Brees is always gonna be tough and the Panthers are always tough.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, but the porters are going through rebuilding stage right, Caillou?
Victor Arocho
Well, they did pretty good without cam.
Caillou Borden
Well, it would have to be Bridgewater now. So we’ll see how that road transition to the NFL, but you’re still going to be pretty tough. I mean, getting rid of getting rid of Greg Olson wasn’t the best move even though you didn’t like to bring him back. You could have brought him in as an advisor role but we’ll see what type of transition that rule makes but it’s gonna be all right.
Victor Arocho
Right. Oh, that’s even another point. The fact that Bridgewater isn’t the same conference, in my opinion that helps out Tampa because Bridgewater knows how to play against the saints. Right? You got to remember if you start being it’s like the NFC East when they were good when they start beating each other. You know, a nine and five team can be the conference champ.
Santiago Leon
That is very, like a very happen. Me. Yeah. And he’s got an edge to do. He’s got a burning desire. To play against New Orleans. Eric hard net from the comments. Victor asks you do you think the Bucs can go to the Super Bowl this year?
Victor Arocho
Um, damn, they’re in the NFC. That’s the NFC. Right.
Santiago Leon
And it’s the sound good, right? Yeah, it is an NFC.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, I think they can go.
Santiago Leon
Caillou?
Caillou Borden
I definitely think they can go but again the NFC West had two three runner ups. The four guys are just in the Super Bowl and step one of the info core they choked it. The Rams I think the Rams are gonna be better. I was checking a cowboy starter for 20 2043 row. Now you don’t have Jason Garrett. Do you have a championship coach Mike McCarthy. The Eagles should be better they should get a lot younger. They love Malcolm Jenkins go Vila, Jason Peters go to they’ll definitely be addressing the old line situation. also getting back to safety. They struggled outside of Philadelphia. on defense. I definitely think that’s something from the improve and also giving cars to one’s more weapons more younger, reliable talent. Yet it runs Sean Jackson back and After they made that championship run, but now it’s really time for them to get younger. They have good management there. So I definitely think Howie Roseman does done a great job there. So I definitely think that and also have Green Bay, so there’s definitely gonna be a lot competition. But can they do it? Yes. But the NFC I’ve always said it’s gonna be tough.
Victor Arocho
Well, yeah, but I, but I’d be about it for me. If I’m Brady at this age, right. I rather go against mahomes then have to beat him to get to the Super Bowl.
Caillou Borden
But I do think. I do think.
Victor Arocho
I mean, mahomes everyone’s worried about Mahomes in the AFC East.
Caillou Borden
Yeah, but I do think that based on thing I rather thing because I think there’s I think the volume and the depth in the NFC is harder because if you don’t play mahomes I mean, you’re going against bill O’Brien’s coaching which I really like my chances and outside of really going against Baltimore, and Kansas City. I don’t really spear nobody an AFC and the NFC cowboys have a pretty favorable schedule this year in 2020. The Philadelphia Eagles if they’re younger, they’re going to be better. If Carson Wentz can stay healthy. They can get some receivers Some younger receivers get a secondary they really had a horrible secondary Laci Green Bay won 13 games last year. Minnesota has a really good defense they’re going to be really good all Chicago maybe added Nick foles maybe they’re still competitive don’t expect much of them but they’re like eight win team they’re still gonna be able to trip you up because they’re different and they’re really good at home and planets your dogs gonna be tough the saints are going to be there champagne still gonna be there and and and the Rams are going to bounce back and Russell Wilson stole his formula and still is going to win some games. So
Santiago Leon
there is a comment from the from periscope saying that possibly Melvin Gordon could be signed with the Buccaneers.
Victor Arocho
I’m telling you that you know how Kylo you just mentioned that how the Eagles are going to be good but they need this they need that they need this Tempest got has most of it. They’re just adding the tools. This type of quarterback is gonna play with weapons on an offensive side that he’s ever played playing with toys And he’s super smart. Think about it. The playbook for New England is doubled the size, the average playbook in the NFL, so that means it’s gonna be that much easier for him to learn the Tampa Bay pay book.
Caillou Borden
But in Philadelphia I do trust how it Roseman, David donoho before and he’s been really good those signs that they may well Malcolm Jenkins bill signs would just bring it back to the veteran corps dad that great Roman Nick flows. You also need good management Yeah, Brady’s gonna do a tremendous amount but if if his ownership gonna go to extra da as they would in New England that’s also a factor if there won’t be sure at the trade deadline is the ownership and Tampa gonna go that extra mile to get an extra piece?
Victor Arocho
I believe they will. I don’t think I don’t think that you can say I think one they will because they’re already showing it. You mean you just saw what the comment said you know that they may get this the other player trying to get Gordon they try to get maybe tried it and doesn’t guys know where Brady’s at. They’re looking at the team of Tampa and if they can play there they go. Wanna play with Brady? People? They’re tired of playing against them.
Caillou Borden
Right now they’re gonna want to play Brady.
Victor Arocho
Right? Right. So that’s how I’m looking at it right. And Tampa is going to put up the money now when New England, I don’t really think that New England really put up the money. They were just super smart on their picks, great trades, because remember they were just re What do you call it running running through veterans? Right? They were getting all the veterans income and they were getting them for top dollar. Those guys are going there to win a championship because they’ve made their buddy where they were at. They’re at the teams that they were with, but they were just really good at what they were paying for. Right. So I don’t think they were Monday to top dollar and I don’t believe nothing in Dallas. I think Dallas is just a glamour glamour FIDE team that it’s you know that I don’t think they’re gonna go anywhere. personally.
Caillou Borden
I think their schedule is pretty if you look at their 2020 schedule, it’s not that Indiana for the NSC, their scheduling. 2020 is, you know, and I don’t think they’re going to have some of the same discipline on that. They had on the Jason gear. I think Mike McCarty bringing in the championship movement goats, as he’s coached in Green Bay. I mean, maybe it was 913 years. Yeah, yeah. And it’s our bill McCartney was really good. I think McCarty was slept on outside of Mike Tomlin and Bilbo check the last 10 years McCarthy’s right there.
Victor Arocho
I think instead of the Ben Burtt bambino curse, he’s got the jimmy johnson curse.
Santiago Leon
Sure. Alright guys how I feel. Let’s go on to the next big move that happened today. Nick foles Chicago Bears. What do you guys think?
Victor Arocho
I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t. I think that, uh, I think that you’re something maybe just in Philadelphia that took Nick Phil’s to that next level. You know what I mean? I don’t know what it is. I haven’t seen it since he’s been with Louis since he’s been with Philly. So and you know, it gets cold. He’s going to where was he at? He’s going to colder cities right?
Santiago Leon
jaguars from Jax,
Victor Arocho
Jax Jacksonville was able he was a Philly Phillies goal, but Chicago is a hell of a lot colder than Philly.
Santiago Leon
were your thoughts Caillou? For Nick foles going to the bears.
Caillou Borden
Here’s how the bears felt. So Mr. burski struggles when games are over 22 points. It’s been proven in his career to splits if he if a team scores over 20 points, the bears don’t win. So the bears that think of that negative thinking we’ve got to do something. I mean, we’ve got to bring in quarterback competition for Mr. burski. I think Nick foles could possibly win the job. This is a situation where management’s like look, Ryan face to GM with a bears is like we’ve got to bring in some quarterback competition for for Mr. burski Nick foles is one four playoff game since 2017. The bears have won four playoff games since 1991. It’s as simple as we’re going to bring in quarterback competition for Mr. burski you whoever went to job is going to have that job and we’re going to try to rekindle some of that spark yet with Doug Peterson in Philadelphia but
Victor Arocho
Maybe that’s a good deal maybe Nick foles was a better backup quarterback that could come in and finish it. You know what I mean? Because he hasn’t really gone a full season yet and he’s injury prone. Yeah, well, I mean, that’s why he’s probably better coming in afterwards. Let’s see same plays Yeah, he plays less games. I mean, he’s not a bad backup quarterback. Bridgewater was a great backup couldn’t get bought it there’s some killer backup quarterback so I look at the Pittsburgh at five. Right. So but a
Santiago Leon
big thing about quarterbacks Kyler. Right now as the Chargers they definitely missed out on Tom Brady. They say they’re gonna stick with tyrod Taylor. They’re number six in the draft. What do you think they should do?
Caillou Borden
I’m not buying that. I don’t think they’re gonna tell about Taylor dishes, that teams try to hype up their players. Definitely going to drop the quarterback and I would expect they’re probably going to be taking Herbert there definitely should take quarterback at six. I mean taraj is a nice quarterback. I’ve always viewed him as a backer he’s done some nice things in Buffalo but I definitely think they’re gonna be taking quarterback at six there’s no way they don’t.
Santiago Leon
They tagged hunter Henry they extended Austin eckler they traded trade Turner they signed Brian Bulaga, liveable level Joseph and Chris Harris. Victor How do you see the Chargers so far?
Victor Arocho
Yeah, you know, that was a really I think they should have got Brady I’m happy Brady’s in Tampa cuz he’s close we can go see him more than then I would normally go see Oh, cuz it’d be here once. Now man got really nothing on the charges. Me I was. Let’s pique my interest. Today was the Brady detections Cam Newton and this Cova 19. The rest I don’t care about the rest of it.
Caillou Borden
How did you feel about Hopkins? What do you think about
Victor Arocho
it? The guy from the Texans? Yeah,
Santiago Leon
Hopkins, a guy traded to the Arizona Cardinals. No,
Victor Arocho
I think that was I thought that’s a bad move. That was a great one. Yeah, great move for a bad move for Texans. And a great move for Arizona. Right You give you give that young guy Tyler Murray Yeah, you give him an attack like that, you know, he had a there was a stat that you pretty much had the most like, scores percentage of scoring offense and you know, they got this guy he’s learning his first year so but I don’t know what’s going on with the Texans. You know what I mean? Cuz remember, last year, they were up and down. Right and just and then what what supposedly was said to Hopkins, I’m glad he left. You know, they said that was the comment. What was allegedly said I’m saying allegedly because of suicides, but what I heard, you know, and then again, I wasn’t there, but that He was brought aside and he was spoken to and I think by the head coach that he was like, Look, I don’t want to have this turned into a an Antonio brown situation. And I know you’re the father of you, your your you have girls from two different mothers and you just kind of that context, which kind of like, shocked everybody and he was gone. Are you gonna be going for any other reason? I don’t understand that kind of conversation.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, there was that comment that I heard about that and kind of turn them off a little bit. Carla, I would be scared. I wouldn’t be disgusted. So Kylo where would you put the Cardinals? Do you think they’re a contender for the NFC West?
Caillou Borden
I don’t think that content I think it’s I think it’s too early for them as a contender I think it’s I’ve column or second year. It’s gotta be tough in that division because I’ve always thought the AFC West has been the best division in football for For was last year in my opinion, the Rams won nine games. They had a lot of offensive line struggles. I think that people gave Shannon Sean McVeigh a lot of slack I mean, I mean he I mean he had a rough year I mean come off the Super Bowl, you’re not gonna go back to football again. So I think that with the 40 Niners runner up Sumo champion
Victor Arocho
Brady goes back to the Super Bowl.
Caillou Borden
Well yeah, that was also amazing. Easier division easier conference you
Victor Arocho
still gotta get to this row brother. I don’t care. No.
Caillou Borden
I mean, it is it is tough in the NFC when when the ego is the one in the NFC East when when it increased it decreases your chances if you have a buy. And so stick on my dame point on the 40 Niners runner up in the in the super last year of it’s gonna be tough because you have Seattle Russell Wilson, how many of those games if you’re going to win against Mr. Wilson out of two games, all you have the Rams I definitely still have penchant for inner division, even with the addition because they’re not gonna be in the Russell Wilson lead team, even Russell Wilson with less, it’s still gonna be better in our zone, he finds a way to make it work. San Francisco might take a step back, I don’t think they’re gonna win 13 games next year, but they’re not going to take a step back to be forfeited division. And I think the Rams are going to be vastly improved. So I think if you’re planning your visit six times out of 16, so that’s 37% of your schedule. So I mean, it might not show up into wins, even though they did add a great receiver. I still think a second year coach, and also they don’t have a greatest event. And you’re just in the division where there’s a lot of talent. I mean, you have two straight runner up in the championship. You got Russell Wilson, I think they’re probably gonna finish for at even with, even with the addition.
Santiago Leon
Victor roadshow, what are your thoughts about the Cardinals?
Victor Arocho
Made Easy, a lot of good points. That’s a tough division. I mean, I’m looking at it right now. It’s a tough division. You know, I mean, to me the steadfast for me Seattle, and and it should be the 40 Niners the Rams were disappointing coming off for Super Bowl but 97 isn’t so bad so they get bounced back I guess from that. It’s it’s a tough division. You know, the beauty about making it a tough division, though, is that the fact that you got to play the teams twice. The harder the division gets, the more you beat up on each other. So it’s just a matter of can you play to the level of talent within your conference, at least win one out of two games, a lot more wear and
Santiago Leon
tear on the body. And obviously the
Victor Arocho
thing is, when you’re good, you know what I mean? You’re not going to have a high win season. You know what I’m saying? Think about the best teams of the NFC East when we were winning Super Bowls, right? They weren’t like we were like, We need to have like phenomenal records, you know, to me,
Santiago Leon
and the probably the easiest division still is the AFC East
Victor Arocho
Yeah, right now till someone’s till someone arises. Let’s see AFC East he said Yes,
Santiago Leon
he’s which is most likely the bills right Caillou? Yeah,
Victor Arocho
yeah, I think the Jets will make a run. I just think great numbers and you know dolphins looks good that was his name for sorry about that but at the end of the year but he was coaching well, that
Caillou Borden
also won’t really pass the card because a lot in football this doesn’t happen the other sport but golf and worst at first. It always seems one time every year where it just goes on worse and further. So I won’t read the past the con is to do that.
Santiago Leon
Cardinals are I mean, I think cartels are a contender. But I will say this, that Kyler Murray will have an amazing fantasy next season because he has Hopkins to throw to so all you fantasy PME great Kyler Murray is the man. Um, you guys are talking about the Rams. I’ve been hearing rumors about Todd Gurley being traded. Is that a good thing, Caillou?
Caillou Borden
I was causing them to do that because Jared Goff is really good at the play action and unless they get a great return out of him, I think that tiger and Eden have a great season but it was good enough. I was causing them to do that against doing it because your goals are really rhythm thorough and he’s really good at the play action. So I would caution them against trading against Todd Gurley. I would try to run it back this year. And then but against that is it’s tough because if he hasn’t another bad this year, you might not be able to get as much but I would caution them away from just creating girly
Santiago Leon
victory of your dreams gm of the LA Rams would you trade. Todd Gurley
Victor Arocho
No.
Santiago Leon
Why?
Victor Arocho
I don’t know. I think he’s, he’s gifted. I think he’s still got time in them. They got another good running back. He could share some duties. You know, as long as he passes the physical that he can go I just I like Todd Gurley. I think that If they get rid of Todd Gurley that that increases the chances for Arizona.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, I mean, like the girly thing has been a big mystery for for LA and for everyone else, no one knows if he’s hundred percent fit. I know the year prior he was amazing. But then towards the end of the season he got injured, and then it kind of spilled over in the over with last year. So we’ll definitely take a look at what’s going to happen when Todd Gurley but if there’s signs of trading him that’s not a very good sign. Obviously. The other trade that we then talk about is David Johnson to the Texans. Um, it’s a David Johnson data, which had a one year wonder Caillou, but do you think he’ll do much with Houston?
Caillou Borden
I don’t really know what to do. I mean, he trained for all these running backs. I mean, I’m still trying to figure out I mean, what they’re gonna do at the receivers isn’t because I don’t think k still is the number one willful is not enough. Why TK Qt is not a normal life. So what exactly is watching thrones do? I think that You’re going to be doing a lot of running football, which is not going to be great for them. I mean woeful or cancer in the field. So I’m not sure what it’s what Texans are doing. It’s a winnable division. Philip Rivers is there which we might get into later, but I’m not really sure what the Texas is doing.
Santiago Leon
Phil rivers is going to the Colts Victor. Good place to retire.
Victor Arocho
I think that’s a good move for him. Yeah. I mean, it’s not a good place to retire in Annapolis. For a long, yeah, email. Yeah, he’ll be back in LA but uh, you know, I think it’s a good move for him. And then Indianapolis was a surprising team with, you know, how they were doing with the quarterback levy at the last second. So I think it’ll do fine.
Santiago Leon
Caillou, is Jacoby per second start, or do you think it’d be Philip Rivers?
Caillou Borden
No, I think Phillip burrows is starting. I think it’s a great move for them. I think it’s I think it’s a great move in the sense that it’s only one year it’s 25. And they’re gonna be in a market for another quarterback next year. Let’s make the playoffs outside of Baltimore, outside of Baltimore, Kansas City, maybe you can win a round or two and Indianapolis, that’d be great for them. So it’s just a bridge guy into the next quarterback. It’s only one year, so it’s not really going to cost them in terms of cap and they still have the flexibility to go out and get another quarterback in 2021.
Santiago Leon
Another big quarterback issue is Cam Newton, there’s going to be an apparent divorce with the Panthers and Cam Newton. Um, no, there’s not much rumors of where he’s going, but he’ll be most likely to be traded or cut. Victor, what do you think about this young man’s career?
Victor Arocho
You know, I don’t think that he had enough time with Rivera. Right, Ron Rivera, I think it was just the year so he didn’t have a chance to adjust to the system and then he got hurt. The other kid did well, and I think he wanted to stay a Panther. But word on the street is me. I don’t know what’s happening with Dwayne Haskins. But that there Read it with Rivera there may make a run for Newton.
Santiago Leon
We think I really think Kim will be good spot and Washington
Caillou Borden
No, I think I don’t think that I don’t think they didn’t Watson I think that Haskins needs to grow I mean, they throw in a fire right away, they didn’t have a playbook for him and he got privacy went along so I just definitely think they need to keep going with Haskins and, and, and and make it work because you’ve got Ron Rivera there, so I definitely think they need to keep going Haskins. I mean, I’d
Victor Arocho
like to see Miami get Newton at least you know, he’s tall enough to see before he gets sacked.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, but
Victor Arocho
he told me he gave me that really tall guy like him that he could see over everybody cuz, you know, he’s gonna have a SAG ratio.
Santiago Leon
But I think having Ryan Fitzpatrick there I think what the dolphins are playing do they’re gonna get a quarterback in the draft. Obviously, you do have Josh Rosen, but the most likely scenario is either Herbert or two. But obviously goes back and forth what’s gonna happen but I know there’ll be a new quarterback for the dolphins. Do you think there should be a new quarterback in the dolphins Victor?
Victor Arocho
I’m not Fitzpatrick fan. I mean, other than that he’s a Harvard grad. You know, is it really well? Yeah, he did very well in. in Buffalo Don’t forget,
Santiago Leon
and they didn’t go anywhere. You mean the Jets?
Victor Arocho
Yeah. No, Fitzpatrick was with the Jets. And then he went to Buffalo. I think afterwards. Maybe I’m wrong. But yeah, I mean, I haven’t I’m not really that impressed with him. Remember, you know, it’s great to look. It’s it’s easy to look great on a shitty team.
Santiago Leon
We think about Fitzpatrick, Caillou.
Caillou Borden
Yeah, I agree with those sentiments, sentiments 100%. I think that Fitzpatrick I mean, he could get hot he could throw touchdowns but else he throws on the substance. And I do agree with victory. Jimmy throws a lot of interceptions. And also it’s great. I mean it’s great looking bad on on a bad team. So another great
Victor Arocho
I mean Kyler What do you think I get? I could i mean i don’t know if it’s best interest for Cam Newton but I’d love to take a shot at Cam Newton playing with dolphins
Caillou Borden
I don’t think that cam will be in the market to go ahead. I definitely think that I definitely think they I definitely think that he’ll have more shooters than going there. I don’t know what exactly is suited for because I mean the market is kind of filling up very fast and I think a lot of teams have quarterbacks now but I wouldn’t I would explore my image What else can I personally think I would have a better shooter than that but if
Victor Arocho
no no doubt I’m not I’m not I’m not arguing with the team. I’m just saying you know as as possible. The only greatest shot we have is getting somebody that’s that good.
Santiago Leon
But if can’t does go to to a new team, what’s the possibility of him being a backup
Caillou Borden
Caillou I wouldn’t have I mean, I wouldn’t have found in the backup. I mean, I mean, if you’re cam, if you’re carrying I mean you’ve come up injury. So if I was cam, I would want to play because that means coming off an injury for him to prove it often injuries by playing so I would cost him if he if he wasn’t coming up an injury. I’ll be fine with being a backup, but I think he’s coming off injury, he might be more prone to want to start a place where he can start.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, no, I agree. There’s no way he’s gonna go to a team and said he’s got no retribution, but that could happen there. Yeah, but he’s not gonna take it’s grounded. Well, I guess you’ll have to retire. He’d go to the dolphins
Santiago Leon
but I mean, it’s packed with a new quarterback story.
Victor Arocho
I am telling you, if they got an opportunity to make the money to get Cam Newton Fitzpatrick Yeah. They’ll talk about the fight. They’ll talk about all this shit, the
Santiago Leon
letting go but they said they just were like an extension. Right, Caillou.
Victor Arocho
If they did yeah
Santiago Leon
what’s the point of having two veteran quarterbacks and trying to groom a new quarterback?
Victor Arocho
We’ve always said this lots of times that two veteran quarterbacks and the
Victor Arocho
second, the second string quarterbacks probably the greatest position to play you get paid several million and you get to watch the game. You don’t exactly I mean, you know, backup quarterback makes a lot of money. You know?
Santiago Leon
Which another big backup quarterback lettuce. I was a Browns game in case Keenum.
Victor Arocho
Right. But you look at the guys that are backup quarterbacks that nobody knows about and then their superstar so I’m just saying to you that it would be cam has to put himself in a position to find the place where he can start. Because if he goes to a place and is the backup, then the Panthers to the world made the right decision.
Santiago Leon
What do you think kind of
Caillou Borden
Yeah, I agree. I definitely think there’s no way. I mean, you want to be a backup. I mean, he’s calling me someone with an injury. And I do think that I mean, he, I mean, he’s gonna want to play. I mean, last time we saw out there were no attorney was looking pretty good. And then I mean, he got hurt. So I don’t think that he’s gonna be a backup. And I think under that situation, I think under that situation, Dale, probably most NFL teams are going to keep two quarterbacks, I think they would probably use Cam Newton to bridge the bridge for the, for the quarterback that they’re going to draft. And then practice. I mean, they could always, I mean, call them or trade them or somewhere because it’s actually a journeyman like that. I mean, he’s been on many teams. He’s not like a different team. So I mean, he can find him anywhere.
Santiago Leon
He might have been with the Buffalo Bills. At one point, Caillou.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, I think I’m pretty sure and they were winning.
Santiago Leon
Well, all I know is I mean, I remember him on the Jets. I remember him with Tampa Bay. And there might have been a third team. It could have been the Buffalo Bills, not thinking about it, but I had to see his history. Hold on. Let me pull up Is Wikipedia he was with the bills for three years. My bad. Wow.
Victor Arocho
told you
Santiago Leon
he was with the Rams bank. Listen to your listen to your elders. This guy has been playing since 2005. Listen to
Victor Arocho
your elders. That’s 15 years. Yeah, you’re gonna tell me you’re gonna take him over Cam Newton. You’re crazy. Yeah,
Santiago Leon
but there’s not a
Victor Arocho
bad guy is if he’s in good shape. He is a stud. six foot eight. Everything. He’s got
Santiago Leon
another trade that happened Mariota to the right. Well, not well, not yet. Possibly a trade for Marietta to the Raiders. Caillou, would that be a good spot for Marcus Mariota?
Caillou Borden
I think it is because at this point, I mean, he is what he is. I think he’s a backup quarterback Derek Carr. I mean, yeah, he had he had time at Tennessee and he lost his job, the ryan Santo. So at this point, I mean, he’s a backup in the league and they go forward then I think He’s in great insurance policy just in case their car gets hurt.
Santiago Leon
And I do want to hear Victor’s comments about by the Titans signing tannehill for four year extension 480 million dollars. Victor How about this guy? What a story.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, I when I say to you, the best move as a professional football player, other than you being already coming out as a superstar is to go play for the dolphins for a couple years. Then go to another team and you become a rich, a rich superstar
Santiago Leon
like the Patriots.
Victor Arocho
Because think about it West Well, I mean, we can go name after on the on Tampa Bay, their ex dolphins. Terry good Jr. So I think that Tannen Hill I liked him in college a lot. I liked that the dolphins Got him. So I don’t know if they just ruined quarterbacks. I liked it. The dolphins got him and I think he did a great job. For for Tennessee, because he didn’t have to be when I say a great job, meaning he did his role. He didn’t he wasn’t the mahomes that was like Superman that that he can beat you himself. You know what I mean? Having a runner like that he made the right throws the right calls, you understand? So he used great for that team. I mean, that’s why I was shocked that Brady would go there because 1010 nails young. Is it
Santiago Leon
10 Hills about 31? I believe.
Victor Arocho
Young?
Santiago Leon
Yeah, he’s 3031. Obviously. We talked about this with Caillou on Monday, but you know, he had a good year. But can we continue that? You know, that phenomenon? for year two and year three? Are you thoughts Kyler?
Caillou Borden
I think a lot of it has to do with Derrick Henry, but I do think that I do think a lot of it had to do with I mean, they’re kind of just amazing. I do think that a lot of it had to do with their candidate running for Fogarty on first And then being sucked in five and then to make an occasional throw to everybody good tight ends Joel Smith was really good fun last year. They had one outside thread AJ Brown was really good from last year so I do think a lot of has to do more play action so I think under right system he’ll be fine. However I don’t agree with him getting around in the right among them the amount of money that he got but given the position and finances the cap of the quarterbacks I was gonna get paid more in the running back.
Victor Arocho
Now man guy get let them get their money. I don’t care. You know, I mean, let them get their money. That’s how I look at it. So
Caillou Borden
not a problem I’m getting. I’m not paying it but I’m just saying
Victor Arocho
you know paying it. And remember you guys don’t realize you don’t know the the you know, the NFL contracts are the toughest contracts. So when you get paid 100 something that’s the total of the contract. But But the most important is what’s guaranteed guaranteed. If you get if you get cut, you’re done. Like you’re you don’t get there the same basketball the same the baseball basketball players got it the best they signed their pay friggin alex rodriguez is still getting a check from the Yankees. Interesting
Caillou Borden
yet NFL players you definitely support the millionaires yeah i agree
Victor Arocho
you know cuz that’s why you always see you hear them arguing like they fight for upfront money these guys want to pay it over time or pay it last but you have a lot of there’s a lot of contingencies and and spiffs which I understand what they’re shooting for that guaranteed money. So that’s why everybody thought Tonio was Brown was crazy. He just needed to sign one piece of paper and got 30 million.
Santiago Leon
something to definitely look at Of course, one signature $30 million. Oh my god. What would you do with $30 million like that? I would,
Victor Arocho
I would sign it in blood. For half
Santiago Leon
Caillou and how little little, little sideway thing what’s going on with Major League Baseball. like are they gonna postpone the season for a little bitter?
Caillou Borden
Um, I think what the coronavirus has named the situation’s very fluid, I don’t think that they’ll post 162 games. I do think that they’ll as as it gets worse, and as you get like closer to June, I think they’ll probably agree like something like 145 games or a little lower than that. If it continues day, maybe they’ll play 162 games. But as you get longer to season them, you don’t want to go against the NFL and September into November. So if we didn’t have to think about lowering the number, I don’t think they’ll cancel all the games. Unless it gets really bad we get on the 78 were your best like Derek calls aren’t making 12 start, then you might have to think about cancer season, but I still think they’ll be able to play the amount of games that they need to play.
Victor Arocho
They did do this to learn about the Cova 90 Yeah, which round and those guys got got positive tested positive.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, the net what’s going on with that on Caillou.
Caillou Borden
While Kevin Durant
Santiago Leon
no yeah with Kevin Durant and the Brooklyn Nets players getting coronavirus,
Caillou Borden
not. Yeah, I think Kevin, I think the young people are mostly Wi Fi issues were are too dumb to be precaution to 80% of people are fine. It’s just more the people in the thing which we should definitely still be concerned about. But I definitely think that the athletes, Donovan Mitchell getting it where you go, Bear, I think their job is more to spread awareness about the virus, but they’ll be fine.
Victor Arocho
No, yeah. I think I mean, I agree with you on Caillou on that. But what’s interesting to me though, about this virus is that Rudy, go bear pronounce them. He had it and he was with his team and playing and yet only two of them have it. And Duncan gets it like there’s four or five Brooklyn Nets. This just, you know, to me, there’s no rhyme or reason on how did it spread there compared to Rudy go there. Understand you That’s what’s
Caillou Borden
good. Yeah, I think I think it’s inexact because you don’t know how if Kevin Durant was sent, he’s not playing. We don’t know if he was shaking hands if he was hanging out with people. I mean, Rudy go bear got it. Yeah. Would it go? Also
Victor Arocho
Durant’s in Brooklyn?
Caillou Borden
Yeah, sure.
Victor Arocho
A lot more people a lot more. Yeah. Could have been in Brooklyn. I’m not I’m not dogging Brooklyn. Shout out to BK. All day, baby. So, but I’m just saying to you New York City in itself is you know, just walking in there. It’s a saturation of people. Yeah, shaking hands. There’s no there’s no social distancing. And there they were social distancing in New York, made me read out to Florida.
Santiago Leon
Sure, which which kallu is located in New York City. Victor, tell me about you know, so far it’s been almost a week or over week with sports. Most of the sports events in the spring being postponed. What were your thoughts? You know, or what has been your reflection this past week.
Victor Arocho
Ah, you know, kind of sad. You know, it took me a week to really start really understanding the strength of this Cova 19 this situation listen to believe it or not to sports cast and Rudy go there and in some of the things Jay will was saying. But, you know, it’s sad for the fans, it’s sad for the players, it’s good for safety. But what’s hard is like, for me at least, I don’t know how my son feels. By the way, Florida senate named Florida State national champions in basketball.
Victor Arocho
So shout out to the Noles. So but but like this is a senior year and they’re He’s like, got to finish school from home. And we don’t know when we got to go pick up your stuff from school and then they may not have the graduation. Imagine being your senior You’re in college so you kind of feel bad for those guys. I feel bad for the guys on March Madness. I feel bad for the you know, all the athletes that had their senior year that are gonna play women’s softball, whatever, you know, it’s even though it’s only one semester and let’s hope that’s all it is. It’s just that part kind of saddens me you know, I don’t know. I guess just being you know, being if I was a senior That would suck,
Santiago Leon
Caillou. Howard things up in New York. I know you’re at the epicenter of the city. But what is the feeling was the vibe over there.
Caillou Borden
Everyone’s trying to keep this soso distance and there’s a lot of panic in the grocery stores. Times Square is completely shut down. Everywhere nationwide, the Apple stores are shut down. So it definitely been basically what it’s been around the country and I definitely want to add to what Victor say I definitely do appreciate what Mark Cuban Kevin loves on Winston doing. Doing into all those arena workers every MLB theme is donated to all their arena workers. I know they’ve done it hockey, so It’s great to see all the millionaires I’m helping arena workers out at a time where this country will need it.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, and that’s nice of them and they should do it that’s part of their family. But Kyla, what did you think about your young guy? What did you think about my my comment on being a senior athlete during this season? right because you you play like the players in the fall season and winter season played. Now this fall now now the know the yeah the winter, summer, winter, whatever and then now fall going into two spring they’re not going to have the same opportunity.
Caillou Borden
Yeah, I think yeah, I think I think it’s very tough. Obviously being a senior high school and finishing possibly on my end not know as the graduation is gonna be. In college. I’m protocol. Yeah, but yeah, well, yeah. Well, yeah. Both to because high school sports as a senior and also in college as well. So I definitely think is I think it’s tough for them, I think leads to the NCAA and a winter sport. At least they got to finish a regular season. I do think is tough because They didn’t get to finish the, you know, March Madness, and that would have been fun for them. I definitely think it’s a little better that they’ve mentioned a regular season for positive spring sports where they even get to start their season groups. I definitely think the NCAA should look into adding an extra year for them. But that’s also tough because in college athletics, you only have a limited amount of scholarships. And if you give to the seniors, the freshmen who feel like if I wanted done, I should get an extra year to because technically you did have received and ruined too and you want to cater to the seniors, but you could also have freshmen that say, you know, I could have had this this could have been extra for me as well. So I definitely think it’s tough to give everybody extra year.
Victor Arocho
But tough part about the March Madness was some of the teams that never got there. This is first time Rutgers was going to be in it. They were ranked dating day in, you know what I mean? So it’s like, then a year to Cinderella team. That’s it’s it’s no matter whether you finish the season or not your season was driven by getting into that tournament. That’s all I’m saying. You know, you just you know, in there Yeah. You know, you guys are young men, you know, you want you don’t want that on. I don’t want anything on anybody. Right? It’s just, you know, that’s the one part. There’s sometimes parts of your lives you can’t get back. And you know, and it is what it is. But like I said, he asked me how I felt was just globally the, you know, realizing what it’s the toll it’s taking on people and work and businesses and sports and because things think about it when things are not going well or whatever and the recession, people turn to entertainment and sport is an entertainment.
Santiago Leon
Definitely a feature that’s missing out throughout these past couple days and this weekend. Do you guys think that you know, when do you guys think that sports will be resumed?
Victor Arocho
Until I believe, until the numbers start going down, as opposed to going up,
Santiago Leon
Caillou.
Caillou Borden
I think it’s tough to say Because I changes by the moment. So I know the NBA yesterday was talking about how, I mean, if it gets worse, I mean, you want to push the season into June. But I mean, if it gets worse, you may not have another season. And I think especially if Kevin Durant got it, and then we find out today, the Lakers are also getting tested who played them? I think if more players start to contract, I mean, the NBA. I mean, just based on the calendar, they might get to a point where they do want to continue to season but they might get to a point where they can’t play in terms of baseball, they have more fluidity because it’s for 260 games. So if it gets then you could probably play like you still probably 125 games, but it all depends. You got to get the numbers down.
Victor Arocho
Let’s chances for people to throw at the Astros. Oh, by the way, I was wrong. He was comparing him I apologize. Antonio Brown was in the Tony Brown was he he had he the coach from Washington compare. Put him and Aaron Hernandez in the same conversation is even worse. That’s terrible. I mean nothing none of Antonio brown think he’s awesome but he compared him to Aaron Hernandez. I just wanted to correct myself. I just saw it on sports are fine. That’s terrible. I wouldn’t play but uh yeah, I would I was answering the question when sports would resume basketball I can’t you You never know you don’t know what’s gonna happen there. They may have to kiss goodbye or whatever, but they’ll do something. basketballs you know beautiful basketballs yet what 1215 man roster so they may put on something you know, these guys. They’re good with. But the issue is, was my issue is the was my comment was like China’s starting going down. I think sports will resume when we can when the numbers stop increasing because right now they’re increasing at a rapid rate. China is actually starting to reduce under 2000 for the first time in a while
Santiago Leon
Yeah, like the South Korean league is resuming their league this week because
Victor Arocho
because it got somehow it’s starting to go down. So yeah, what so
Santiago Leon
is it We will get down hopefully in May or June. But just like Caillou says, I think if we see more and more NBA players contracted, they might not have a season at all.
Caillou Borden
Well for basketball, I would make a quick play about basketball. Yes, while the 15 on your roster, but you got to think about you got coaches, you got trainers, you still gotta have arena workers, you got referees, you got broadcasters. So if you’re following the CDC, his advice, and they’re telling you no less than 50 people, that’s 50 people right there because you only have 12 to 15 players, but you have coaches you have assistant trainers, you have trainers, you have arena working
Victor Arocho
No, no, I agree. I was I was in. I was saying when the numbers go down as it increases, but the numbers have to go up as the ratio because right now was like 10 to one. So what I’m saying to it cam, it has to be arena count worthy. You know what I mean? You can’t and you can’t have six feet distance because even if you had a half whole arena and you’re sitting next to each other you’re not six feet away. Right? So so it has to be where it’s global. I understand that I was just saying that they’ll start opening certain things up.
Santiago Leon
What about what about playing like the NBA plane behind closed doors with no crowds with no spectators just like what they’re doing like wrestling? Do you think that’s a better solution solution?
Victor Arocho
I like what LeBron said I am playing if they know fans
Santiago Leon
we think I live with
Caillou Borden
I absolutely hate that. But I mean, if it’s going to help the people and help reduce this spread, I mean, I’m all for but as a fan, I would also hate that because the fan is a huge element of the game of sports and that crowd at the Laker game and playoff games. Especially Colby died this year and having that opportunity to win the championship in front of the fans for the fans. I would absolutely hate that and hope it will be the last resort
Victor Arocho
Let me tell you though this puts a think if he you know based on you just talking about the Lakers this just put this does put a twist in the Lakers game plan it’s gonna give LeBron another year of being older if it gives Zion a chance to heal right and it’s gonna give Katie a chance to write to and the warriors to heal so so you know the the LeBron Anthony Davis project may may be a little harder next year than I believe it is this year
Caillou Borden
right right absolutely yeah so
Santiago Leon
yeah cuz age you know father time is undefeated and of course you know, LeBron had I mean so far had a great season look healthy look in his prime making, you know, scoring great numbers but obviously a year older, you see some depth.
Victor Arocho
And even if he plays great, you’re still now playing against you just adding another six more superstars.
Santiago Leon
Exactly. And plus the West with the warriors. You know, they might be at full steam. So you gotta come in past yeah and you know same for the Clippers clippers also had like a little a small opening as well to win the championship.
Victor Arocho
I want to ask you, I don’t know I think they’re gonna be good but I want to ask you a question and see where they’re raised comments cuz I heard this on one of the sports show, if you could if you had to take two guards, which two guards would you take which you take kawhi are who are harder to defend the Messier which one was to take or hard to defend? Doesn’t matter. pick whatever you want. kawhi and Paul, George or Steph and clay,
Santiago Leon
you go first kind of
Victor Arocho
Caillou?
Caillou Borden
kawhi kawhi and Paul,
Victor Arocho
okay,
Santiago Leon
why?
Caillou Borden
Because I think they’re more versatile. I think they could score from different areas of the court.
Santiago Leon
I agree with Kyler I’ll pick those two Victor I
Victor Arocho
I pick clay and Steph Curry why and and my reasoning is that they, they change the way you have to play defense. Right? So the second I’m just repeating what these guys said, but I agree with it so it’s me. The second they stat across the half court line, you have to cover them. You understand they can bomb it from there anytime they want to. So your defense has to come all the way how when kawhi and Paul George now they’re great players and I think you win championships awesome. them don’t quit and he’s already proved it. I’m just saying to you, those two guys changed the game of basketball. with their hands out at a lot of that’s a lot of court to cover.
Santiago Leon
Do you have any closing words?
Victor Arocho
One more thing on that. I also i don’t think i’ve seen one player that runs for an opening. As much as Steph Steph Curry does Who? Steph Curry is running all the time around picks and screens Yeah, to get an open shot and I don’t believe I see too many players that do that with that consistency all the time. He’s never still
Santiago Leon
kinda. Yeah, I agree. Kyle agrees Well guys, we’re coming towards the end of the show. Let’s have some closing words. Actually, before that actually All I’m trying to save closing words or go to hideaway like the best way to reach you see some closing words. Caillou, you first.
Caillou Borden
I don’t have any
Victor Arocho
closing words. Everybody stay safe, be smart. And you know pray for those that aren’t as fortunate as as you are. And as an I am
Santiago Leon
something to definitely look at. Of course, sports isn’t pause but the NFL definitely line it up. The sports World League Gan, Sports Center was back on not fully, but most of their reporters are reporting from home. And of course of all of us in sports cats are sort of self quarantine. I know Kyle Lewis, I am not 100% quarantine. Victor. I think you are right.
Victor Arocho
Well, I with my family. Yeah. But you still go to work or do you know, I’m working from home this week. We’re going one week on one week off.
Santiago Leon
Okay. So next week, you’ll be back.
Victor Arocho
Yeah, we’ll see. It depends on how things go. But yeah, I mean, I could work from it. I could work from anywhere. So no matter
Santiago Leon
what the moment is, sports is definitely keeping going. Tom Brady sign in and yes, there’s a few players not yet signed or traded. So we’ll see what happens. Keep. We’ll keep you guys up to date. Caillou, what is the best way to reach you to talk to you about the NBA?
Caillou Borden
They can reach me at kiteboarding 12 on both Twitter and Instagram.
Santiago Leon
And Victor what is the best way to reach you to talk to you about Melvin Gordon is on twitter at the URL VAR o ch O. And that’s Twitter. And you can reach us at the sports cast at the sports cast dotnet, the sports cast net or on Twitter at the sports cast one. We’ll definitely we’ll be having more shows. This week. We’re working on an interview with a big website from Jacksonville Jaguars, a fan base to talk about the situation there with Kelly’s Campbell and Nick foles leaving and we’ll probably have, we’ll probably have tide turning at the end of the week, to see to forecast Where are the teams positioned that now with their new signings, and how would that affect the NFL Draft? And we’re also looking at Jeff Farber, either this week or next week to talk about the situation in Kansas City, which is not doing much on their end, but he could definitely go around the NFL. Well, guys, I really appreciate you coming on to this coronavirus, busy weekend sports. But the NFL relived it. I appreciate guys coming on awesome.
Caillou Borden
Caillou good talking to you.
Victor Arocho
Thank you. Thanks. Thank you.
Caillou Borden
All right bye
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Santiago Leon is the Founder and CEO of the Sports Cast. He covers NFL, NBA, and world soccer. He’s also founder of sleon productions, which he specializes in technology and serves clients with solutions to make their business grow.
