Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence want college football to play this Fall. Justin Fields has started a petition to bring back the Big Ten to play sports this fall after cancelling it this past week. Justin Fields is on the edge to be in the NFL Draft next season.
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Ty Turner @TurnerCast
Santiago Leon @sleon
The Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields created a petition on MoveOn.org directed to Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren and school presidents and athletic directors in the conference under the #WeWantToPlay hashtag. The Big Ten was the first Power Five conference to postpone football to the spring of 2021 when it made the abrupt decision on Tuesday.
“We, the football players of the Big Ten, together with the fans and supporters of college football, request that the Big Ten Conference immediately reinstate the 2020 football season,” Fields’ petition states. “Allow Big Ten players/teams to make their own choice as to whether they wish to play or opt out this fall season. Allow Big Ten players/teams who choose to opt out of playing a fall season to do so without penalty or repercussion.
Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields and hundreds of other student-athletes within the Big Ten want to play this season and are now putting pressure on conference officials and university presidents to make it happen. Fields launched a campaign over the weekend to initiate the reinstatement process in a letter addressed to Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren along with university athletic directors and presidents.
As of Monday morning, the petition has reached more than 217,000 signatures with the next banner mark expected to surpass 300,000.
“We, the football players of the Big Ten, together with the fans and supporters of college football, request that the Big Ten Conference immediately reinstate the 2020 football season,” Fields said in the petition, via moveon.org. “Allow Big Ten players/teams to make their own choice as to whether they wish to play or opt out this fall season. Allow Big Ten players/teams who choose to opt out of playing a fall season to do so without penalty or repercussion
- President Trump said Saturday he spoke with Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence about the return of college football in the fall
- Trump said that Lawrence and other football players wanted the season to start again despite half the sport’s opting to play in the spring instead
- Trump said Lawrence told him he felt safe on the football field than out in public
Oklahoma woes
- Oklahoma RB Kennedy Brooks opts out of 2020 season
- Two former 5 stars with season ending injuries
- One RB transferred other opted out
- Another player suspended
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Transcript
Santiago Leon
Sports cast August 17 2020 if you haven’t yet, please subscribe and all our channels Periscope, iTunes and YouTube and if you’re an iTunes please leave a rating and review. It will help us out tremendously. And of course visit us on the sports cast net for the latest and greatest and sports a lot of news going on more about scheduling more than anything. And this episode is brought to you by instant Bible app you can get the instant Bible app on the iOS App Store. Justin fields and Trevor Lawrence has been making noise this past week. They want to play college football this fall. Justin fields has started a petition to bring back the big tent to play sports this fall. After canceling it this past week field is on the edge to be in the NFL Draft next season and he needs to have some playing time. And joining us to talk to us a little bit about the big 10 Justin fields and maybe some Trevor Lawrence Ty Turner all the way from me Annapolis Minnesota. Tyler what a week for college football. Do you think the big 10 could change your mind or I mean I know you were talking about some doctors saying hey this this this COVID thing could be handled properly.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, definitely not on a sim Brando actually did attack today because they said I was like 12 was the boat. But then there’s a lot of contention about that. It was more like a clearly a petition being signed by Justin field your letters being written by parents while state sensitive Iowa probably Nebraska I don’t know. It seemed like definitely seems not like a monolithic consensus over there for split I mean, honestly they put it in obviously, I think there’s some schools and some medical experts believe they should but then there’s others that don’t so I just think the past tackles that’s what the big the big 10 is completely split. So do I think they’re going to reinstate us are they already cancelled it?
I don’t know. I think they will.
I do think at this point, because and obviously it’s a big 10 via Jeff ROM put together that you know, the possible skin for the spring and fall next year. I I do get a feeling that they are going to maybe be able to push and get it Going in like, January.
Santiago Leon
Yeah. Which we were talking about this offline. This past weekend. We were hearing or you’re hearing that a possible January 1 New Year start is that when you think that might work out like the best?
Tyler Turner
Yeah, and I think the big 10 there’s enough push to play now or no push play in general. I just think they’re gonna end up playing. Yeah. And it’s less than ideal in the big 10 country to play at that time of year, but I think they’re gonna figure something out. And then the patchwall, who seems to be doing if you want my opinion for one off conference, what is the SOS conference? Like? They didn’t like football?
Santiago Leon
their true colors have been shown there’s
Tyler Turner
all my goodness. I mean, I know it’s a pandemic, but like, you’d think there’d be a little pushback and guys really be said their only thing they’re outspoken about wanting to get paid. Why would you say the worst conference in power five and And there’s like, no one really pushing to want to play and then the fall and spring doesn’t even seem like
Santiago Leon
have you heard anything from our crystal ball themselves? Like as you said anything recently
Tyler Turner
You know what? I just got a feeling he he’s responding in the face that is limited. I said this on one of the dashboards, though remember, I’ve always I think once a job that comes up, good job comes up in the sec. I just think the culture on the West Coast it’s just challenging from a football perspective. I think I saw I don’t think they’re gonna win daddies out there. I don’t think the players love it enough. I mean, you should be saying something like, oh, man, I just want to play so bad. I think that it seems like they don’t even care to be honest with you. I’ve always on mine, they’re cared more about, you know, who they’re gonna vote for in the upcoming election and not getting paid than they do about plants. It is, it is really crazy to see how I mean, it sounds like such a classic term to use but it’s just the culture out there soft now the soft besides that becomes a footballer stop.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, I mean that’s something that’s just part of the territory. I’ve never been up there I never lived up there anything but I guess the true colors are shining. I don’t think every player is like that i’m sure I mean, knowing I mean not knowing Marcus well back in magic, he wants to build
Tyler Turner
a wardrobe and all the teams in the conference, the Oregon police, um, and that’s why they win because they don’t really want if they won last year, they just weren’t more physical and, and probably moving forward to the only one that could compete not only with talent, but also they think they do have players that are not quote unquote soft they so soft. Um, so But at the same time can there’s enough of those guys in that culture there? Yeah, I’ve also seen the candidates compete out the PAC 12 is Oregon the rats Yeah, they need us to go protest because you know, that’s kind of what’s key to them protesting peacefully or writing or tearing up whatever works in that territory.
Because I don’t
Santiago Leon
have any players joining the Portland protest.
Tyler Turner
I don’t probably you should see the social media oh my goodness, I can’t agree at all. If the big 10 plays and I think they are going to, I think is a meltable pole and push guys wanting and I just think eventually they’re just like, Oh, we can’t play now. So we’re gonna pay in January. And I think they’ll The money will add up because they will need the revenue back and, and I think something gets figured out so no Matter is football season I still think there’s a chance that enough virus and there’s enough push back that everything gets pushed back. I still not completely sold that there will be any football play this fall. Do you
Santiago Leon
think the SEC, like we’ll push it back?
Tyler Turner
Well IBC was first and there’s already seen being kind of like a having to kind of an ace was playing this fall like Syracuse has not really been fully on board at Claire’s city now practices
Santiago Leon
that they complain about liberties like the CDC protocols or something.
Tyler Turner
I think Boston College I heard has been a little bit and then UNC I just think I just think that I could see a document saying it’s not safe and and then they’re, you know, they review some medical stuff and we may come back and and he pulls out and then that point of that big falls and I don’t know if it’s worth it, because then because then ACC push back to the spring, you have the ACC big 10 and the PAC 12. That would be more the consensus on the power five you have my head you’d have, you’d have 40 Yeah, 40 to 65 teams. So that point more than true national campaign will be in the spring. So I just wonder if they all push back on which then they all push back then maybe it does get totally cancel because then maybe they can all come to an agreement. So I kind of want wanted just to go I want to go on the ball. And then I think that will kind of force the end of the big 10 and then the basketball and then they’ll probably play in the spring. That’s what I think what we’ll say.
Santiago Leon
And there’s a push by Ohio State quarterback, Justin fields and hundreds of other student athletes within the big 10 that want to play this season and are now putting pressure on conference officials and universities presidents to make it happen. They launched a campaign over the weekend to initiate the reinstatement process and the letter to the big 10 Commissioner Kevin Warren, and with university athletic directors and presidents as a morning, Monday morning, which is this morning the petition has reached to 300,000 signatures within the next banner Mark expected to to go even more later on today. We the football players of the big 10 together with the fans and supporters of the college football request at the big 10 conference, immediately reinstate the 2020 football season field said in the petition via moveon.org allow big 10 players teams to make their own choice as to whether they wish to play or opt out this fall season. That’s a good point. Allow big 10 players teams who choose to opt out of playing a fall season to do so without penalty or repercussions. I like that counteroffer. Like, let it play. And if you have players that want to opt out, let them opt out. I mean,
Tyler Turner
cuz I mean, like I said, the back wall. Keep the big 10 Why don’t you put in the PAC 12? I guess I covered
Santiago Leon
too much on Twitter.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, the big 10 Yeah, there definitely seems to be a large majority of the players that are really outspoken and really wanting to play so I just don’t like at the end of the day there player. So they’re, of course they’re going to want to play their coaches. Of course, you’re going to want to coach and it comes down to what is the medical experts in the president side. So while that looks good, and it shows that man, there’s a high tear factor from the Claire’s I that’s just, I mean, it’s
Santiago Leon
really surprising that a lot of these players couldn’t knocked out. And you know, like their value doesn’t go down for the NFL Draft
Tyler Turner
depends like if a guy’s off you know because yeah you don’t know that.
Santiago Leon
I mean some not all of them I know Trevor Lawrence has guaranteed almost but
Tyler Turner
yeah you don’t know i mean there could definitely be
Santiago Leon
repercussions
Tyler Turner
yeah there could be there could be NFL teams they I don’t know how much they love it they love before football and and and i mean i would do like if I was astounded when I like I would be going online talk with people seeing what people are saying like for instance I’m on some of these Oregon doc and players pages and if I’m seeing them like more interested in why they shouldn’t play and why they should that be a red flag to me Charlie replied to me and I think, I think it will be a red flag, let’s say, between a couple players like, well, I don’t know how much that guy’s care factor is. Doesn’t seem to care very much on his personal page. I mean, the NFL does that. I mean, they’re all over there. People investigating, they talk to people close to players. And if someone obviously doesn’t seem to care a lot, um, yeah, I mean, they’re on
Santiago Leon
the ground, man. All the scouts, they’re in Ohio, stay there. Now. Bam. I mean, they lived there.
Tyler Turner
They’re gonna, they’re gonna they’re gonna pick a player that cares more. I mean, of course,
Santiago Leon
personal character does weigh a factor when it comes to drafting.
Tyler Turner
Well, I wouldn’t say that the personal exalt so don’t conflate two different things. I’m someone not having as much of a care factor about possibly being a football player playing games. That doesn’t make someone not have good character. Right. Okay, so good.
Santiago Leon
There’s a pandemic so it’s kind of like a happy episode.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, but what I’m saying is like that, like a character issues if someone’s getting in trouble with a wall, if someone is lying around cheating, he’s cheating on their exam, like stuff like that. Is that yeah,
Santiago Leon
it’s different from like opting out, correct?
Tyler Turner
Yeah, maybe not. Maybe Nike or maybe not caring as much about playing football. I mean, there’s more important issues like the political climate, then that would be a care factor for sport, too, that you really love football. And if I am a doubter, or coach, at the end of the day, you’re coaching to win championships. If you don’t win championships, you get fired, correct. I mean, if you’re not winning, if you’re not winning games, you’re not gonna have a job very long. So if I’m a coach, I’m like, a guy has to love the game. I want players that love the game, because the more that they love the game when the game gets close, when the game gets tough, they’ll win because they just have that much desire to win that much love to the game. And then you’re comparing to the Guys, this guy loves the game more than you see if one guy doesn’t seem to love the game that much and another game does, you’re gonna pick the guy that does. So like if I was a scout and I was looking online at some of these guys that seem to be more interested in the fact that they might get sick and not wanting to plays and hey, this is the risk and I still want to play because I love the game so much. I’m gonna take the guy out of the game or, I mean, it’s Yeah. I’m gonna take the guy who was a gamer, I mean, what why would not, here’s me, I’m gonna have a better chance to win with a guy who was game more than a guy that doesn’t love the game. And it’s nothing about like, it’s not character guy by a perfectly fine character. You just mean he doesn’t love boys other priorities above it, which is fine.
Santiago Leon
This is interesting, the whole the whole, like the whole variables here, but we’ll definitely take a look at that. Now. I’ve been thinking about this like this past weekend because I’m getting ready for fantasy. I mean, do you think at the end Phil’s gonna stick with their schedule or do you think they could have a slight chance of this moving back a bit?
Tyler Turner
I think the NFL because they have a lot of money so they’ve been able to attack players because of replays gameplay too. So they’re getting Yeah, so they’re getting paid to the players are definitely making a little more of an effort to make sure they follow every protocol. Because if they don’t, they don’t get paid more. They don’t have a job because you’re breaking call. I just think yeah, I think that will go through. I just think it’s easier.
Santiago Leon
Yeah. And they have like the like the resources for testing and game players and pods and which I do believe college football can do it. I really do think they have the resources and keep in mind, a lot of these athletes who got COVID they don’t feel anything like they don’t feel like a pinch hardly because they have good immune systems and everything. So the risk is pretty low for them.
Tyler Turner
Yeah, man, it’s for them to get through. He’ll where they, you know, are unable to play at a significant level is a pretty well
Santiago Leon
prosperous Yeah. Let’s look at Oklahoma running back handy Brooks opt out of the 2020 season. Tyler you’ve been noticing that uh, that Oklahoma you’ve seen it. You’ve been seeing some players dropping out. Where do you thoughts over that?
Tyler Turner
Well, often jt haselwood tore his ACL. I don’t think he’s fully recovered. Four or five star Caleb Kelly towards a tutorial with me again. He’ll be out for the season. To our four on top 100 guy I think he got injured he might be back on another guy. I can’t remember the name offhand but got arrested. At least he’s gonna get suspended trade on bridges, who is a former top 100 wide receiver. It’s suspended for the first six games next year. All I’m like, you know, I do my team talent formula I was going through, I think it was between often out suspensions and injuries. I think it was something like trying to go something I had was, like 1415 points of guys that will probably not be playing this ball, or at least won’t be playing for the first half of the year. So Oklahoma’s roster probably is not quite as good as it has been in the past years. And it’s already dealing with having to play with a freshman quarterback. And I just wonder this year, Texas is ever going to do it. This is the year that as long as they’re healthy, I actually think that they probably have a better roster, especially because of the injuries often out of Oklahoma, going into this year, if the seed is depleted, I actually expected more talented roster than Oklahoma
Santiago Leon
call. Good point. This is just to do it.
Tyler Turner
Yeah. Seeing
their head like it might seem California
six and a little over eight. But when you take out all the squares Oklahoma problems we actually it’s not even the top 10 and it was a borderline. So I think Texas actually has the better roster so they’re gonna ever beat Oklahoma. Anybody that’s here.
Santiago Leon
They’re having a big 12 Oklahoma woes. We’ll see what happens big 12 was also in question mark, but they’re as long with the SEC. Tyler thinks ACC will be next if they decide to drop out I think next part big 12 then sec last we’ll make that final decision. We think about that older.
Tyler Turner
So you think next could be
Santiago Leon
like the next conference will be ACC which I think we agreed on a few minutes ago. Then the big 12
Tyler Turner
Yeah, yeah, see, see, but the thing is, sec, how are they possibly gonna get like, this is how I think about it. Like, even if one more conference drops out, then the consensus of the power five will have moved to the spring. Right. And then two more dropouts. What is the point of the SEC play? They’re not playing for a national title, because they’re gonna be an asset idle, there’s no way they’re gonna have it be the one with only one conference.
Santiago Leon
True. I mean, so that will force sec.
Tyler Turner
Because I’m not going to play for a national title. Yeah, the only way. Even even like right now is like, so you have 39 as a call support, I’m sorry. 26 teams have opted out. 39 are going to play it. So I guess if you haven’t asked the title, if you go, it’s 6040. So I guess you Give it to the fall spring does it? Or you could do a split, I don’t know. Then if you have like, let’s say cc opt out, then at that point it is 42. Is it 4341 to 24 or so then I guess you could do a split, then you’re definitely leaning toward a you have Ohio State Clemson sent that you have all the good teams in the spring. Yeah, I could do a split But definitely, I would say the better half is in spring. But then if you drop out the big 12, then it’s I mean, at that point, it’s 51 to the power five teams are spring and you have only 14 in the fall. What is the point claim? It is not a split, you get to be the SEC champion. But then the national champion will come out of the spring so I really think man ACC Valles I have a feeling at that point, then you all move to spring.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, breaks the camel’s back then it breaks the camel’s back. Yeah, right and make a point and that you’ve seen a lot of you see a whole lot of these ACC teams, you know, like these players kind of complaining so Tyler’s keeping an eye on that we’re keeping an eye on that as well. So we’ll, we’ll see how it goes.
Tyler Turner
And then so like, I’ve heard the argument that the PAC 12 so I decided to investigate an argument. I heard the argument that the PAC 12 and the big 10 consider themselves of the power five superior academic conferences. And so I decided to investigate that say, oh, is the two best conferences with the best schools in the PAC 12 and the big 10. And no, no, actually, if you go by the top 50 schools, the ACC has seven top 50 schools. Big 10 has four Pac 12 as for so actually the ACC and if you do buy top 50 Medical Research schools which medical research could play a role in deciding to play? It’s the big 10 with seven ACC with five. So the ACC is on par as far as academics with the big 10 and the PAC 12. actually probably a little bit better. So that’s another reason why as long as ACC could say, Hey, we can play there have very good academics there, you know, I think you’re good to go as long as ACC, the second AC pulls out, you basically have the three best academic conferences in the power five that are all out. At that point, your base, it does kind of look like we’ve done the research, we don’t think it’s safe. And the SEC and big 12 are just doing it because we love football more than it looks like it does look like that. But I see them compare side by side you would have seven plus two 16 of the top 50 schools and those conferences with, I think 16 of the top 50 medical research schools saying it’s not safe. And then the SEC Do you have like its big 12 year combined like two or three top 50 schools. And the same when it comes to top 50 medical research, and it just it just adapt or really does look like those conference don’t care and actually they could come back to bite them if they just went through anyways.
Santiago Leon
Great. Now,
Tyler Turner
the ACC. Yeah, as long as the ACC stays on board, you have a very good academic conference. You have, you know, if you have that going for you, you have the consensus as far as if three of the power five conferences staying in and deciding to play. You have 39 of the 65 power five school saying it’s fine to play this fall, I think yeah, I think as long as a ACC I think really is the linchpin. I saw a couple places where they said the Big 12 I don’t think the big 12 is glitch.
Santiago Leon
Yeah, not as much as ACC. Yeah.
Tyler Turner
I don’t think the big 12 will cancel. I only the big problem cancel out the ACC. They’re the one to watch. If they pull out then I think it’s done.
Santiago Leon
Tyler anything else before we close the show?
Tyler Turner
No, man.
Santiago Leon
That was a good analysis. I good thing. Good thing. We transcribe these podcasts because you said some great points. And you’re right. ACC is the linchpin, I think, what’s the point of the SEC plane unless they don’t care about the national championship, which I’m sure they do. What’s the point in playing this fall so we’ll definitely keep an eye on that. And next couple weeks. Those conferences ACC sec and the big 12 will start on next month, September 26. So they got time they got some wiggle room. But of course we’d like to know for sure if they want to change that. And they gotta let us know in the next couple of days are doing
Tyler Turner
do it similar similar quick, right?
Santiago Leon
Yeah, you got to because he’s you know, you’re you’re out there in the practice field every day and you got and you don’t want to waste too much time so even though you’ll keep yourself in shape anyways, quick poll question of the day who is your favorite sports team from Massachusetts or New England? The choices are the Patriots Red Sox, the Eagles a Boston College or the Bruins?
Tyler Turner
I mean, I was always a lifelong Red Sox fan. I don’t really follow baseball that much anymore. But yeah, I was a lifelong Red Sox fan.
Santiago Leon
Red Sox is second place 33% of course the Patriots are winning a 50% Boston College’s at third 16% and Bruins are at zero
Tyler Turner
Cheers. No Bruins fans.
Santiago Leon
I put you know it’s funny cuz was between them. We’ll put like the minute man I think there’s a college of the med students a lot. The minute men but
Tyler Turner
I don’t think our page has very many hockey fans, we don’t cover hockey
Santiago Leon
and hockey, they’re very patriotic to like they stand up for the flag. And for the anthem.
Tyler Turner
I think some didn’t write some did something.
Santiago Leon
I, as far as I know, is almost hundred percent. I mean, I don’t I can remember one guy I mean, if it was just one guy, they would have like, ran with it and like the media, but who knows? Who knows? Anyways, hockey is in a bubble right now. We’ll see what happens they’re going through. I think they’re about to start to playoffs NBA is gonna start to playoffs today. So we’re looking forward to when that you know, like the same feeling, but we’ll see maybe they’ll change things around. And of course, we’ll be keeping guys up to date with the college football because news changes really quick. So we’ll we’ll definitely guys keep you up to date. Tomorrow. We have Justin Riley and Bama cast, we got a special guest and of course So we got some Champions League this week so a lot of things going on sports so it’s definitely different from April in March, right? Yes sir. Anyways tightener What is the best way to reach you to talk to you about college football at Turner cast he knows what’s going on. We’ll see if big 10 will revert but I doubt it. Even though a good petitions going on it’s hard to revert these things when you make a final decision about a week ago. Anyways, you can reach us at the sports cast one or at the sports cast. The sports cars dotnet website and for the latest and greatest title Turner Any closing words
Tyler Turner
no
Santiago Leon
tie great show.
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