In this episode of the Riley & Constant show, the gang recaps the SEC Championship, preview the game vs Notre Dame, and revisit the legends’ careers.
Contributors & Guests
Justin Riley, Marvin Constant, Comic Steve Brown, Willie Gaston, Roosevelt Patterson, Curtis Brown, & Stephen M. Smith.
Justin Riley 0:17
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Marvin Constant 1:34
another Tuesday night. Be good as usual. Fellas, he heard about the show. You bought a buckle up Get ready to buy to be fun.
Justin Riley 1:44
It’s a lot of fun. I will say ahead of time guys. Our show is not a percent nonsense 10% actual analysis if you can roll that you’re in the right place. And Marv as usual, we got a great panel of guests as we always do on Tuesday night. Can you go ahead and introduce all these gentlemen?
Marvin Constant 2:05
First and foremost Steve late as usual knew so whenever Steve get here, Steve will get here but in the meantime in between time ladies and gentlemen from Tesla and out of a magazine The one and only Steven M. Smith don’t mistaken for Stephen A Smith. We got Mr. Curtis brown kids anything you throw in his direction. We got the man himself. Tonio referenced him last week a few times. Willie Gaston, and last Ronnie back told that thing. Mr. Chris Anderson himself, ladies and gentlemen.
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Marvin Constant 2:43
Well, joining us. Thank you.
Justin Riley 2:47
Yeah, glad to have Oh, no. Now Steve brown can’t get here on time. I know had to give you guys a great intro instead. Because I saved one up for him. But he may lose that soon. So y’all inherited?
Unknown Speaker 3:02
I don’t know what
Unknown Speaker 3:04
happened last week on that conversation with my name came up.
Marvin Constant 3:15
And we will give you the opportunity to clear your name. Don’t worry. We’ll get back to that.
Justin Riley 3:21
It’s your turn, man. It’s your turn. Hey, we had to say thank you. Seems like whenever we have Tonio and T going together, they always bring your name up in conversation, man. You obviously made an impression.
I had to make a clip for you and show you what you missed out on last week. So yeah, this is definitely your time brother.
Unknown Speaker 3:53
Even though Linda
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they really think
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you’re gonna have opportunities to.
Justin Riley 4:05
Now really, I gave take the opportunity to jump back on here this week with you but he’s a clown. He has something to do. Yeah, I’m sure he did. Yeah, he’s got his bear for.
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Unknown Speaker 4:21
We’ll go ahead and
Justin Riley 4:23
like I said, your time, brother. Let’s go ahead and jump into our first topic. And y’all Feel free to join in to our favorite segment called constant chaos brought to you by mallos, who has one of the greatest food traditions since 1946. And what this segment allows Marvin to do is give us unfiltered thoughts and issues around an Alabama or college football in general. Marvin, what you got for us this week.
Marvin Constant 5:00
The last Saturday’s performance. I was kind of speechless. It was the tale of two teams from the first half to the second half. I don’t understand how things went left so fast in that game, how do we go from manhandling them?
Unknown Speaker 5:20
too badly winning.
Marvin Constant 5:21
You know, and we talked about Pete Golding a lot and how terrible of a defensive coordinator he is. I think the Bama nation as a whole has come to a consensus that Pete is Terrible. Terrible. Do you any of you guys have any knowledge or understanding how he got his job? Anybody?
Unknown Speaker 5:48
I have no idea. I have no idea how you got that job.
Unknown Speaker 5:53
He knew somebody
Justin Riley 5:57
can just have a hell of an interview. You know, like I’ve always said, I’m gonna go apply for some big executive position and speak for me
Unknown Speaker 6:09
as defensive coordinator,
Marvin Constant 6:12
Alabama standard fool who may or may
Justin Riley 6:23
not know now Willie, you came from a defense that thought it was like a crime to give up 10 points a game. How do we go from that to what we have now? I know it bothers you watching it.
Marvin Constant 6:35
Hold on. Hold on. Timeout. No, before we get into that. So when? When Florida played LSU there was this whole shoot drone thing, right? That pretty much calls for Florida the game. So last week we had Tonio in Georgia, Jim Tonio said, you know, we all played one guy who would do something like that. He said,
Unknown Speaker 7:01
when a guest
Marvin Constant 7:04
he said when he would have to to shoot and be like, ya know who she was, was she so we can get to the next place.
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Marvin Constant 7:14
I know you want to clear your name. Tonio throw you under the bus like that.
Unknown Speaker 7:21
I know you
Unknown Speaker 7:21
want to clear your name. Number one will never take anybody’s shoe and throw it 30 yards up the field at any point.
Marvin Constant 7:34
According to Antonio
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Antonio and speak about that real
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dude man, I’m
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a I’m a great teammate. I don’t do things like that in such a game is dad import now you take a tendency Chad no gang I probably wouldn’t be in there. I mean, hey, but you know my antics for me came off the field more known. Now there are times in games where everybody will look at me and be like, man What the hell happened? It happens man it mean
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Unknown Speaker 8:16
run these complex defenses in all the time your mind is straight.
Marvin Constant 8:23
So what does a complex defense have to do with throwing a shield or you plan three fold coverage but here buddy when
Unknown Speaker 8:33
you throw shoes like that, it has a meaning it has a strength
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he was nobody know
Marvin Constant 8:44
he had all the you know what else he said? He said he was trying to hang on from there why from that camera that run across the field on a power line in the project
Unknown Speaker 8:57
territorial markings right there when you throw it on that land is hanging up there you know?
Justin Riley 9:17
Like they didn’t want to be there at night.
Unknown Speaker 9:21
We get back and we want to get back to the game. How did our defense go from man handling to getting manhandled in the second half I believe I’m a pressure kind of guy believe and not sitting back allowing an officer to do what they want to do and that’s basically what they allow flow to do the second
Unknown Speaker 9:41
Marvin Constant 9:43
but you got it. But you got it Mr. White, but you gotta admit though, is you’re gonna be a blitz heavy team. Do you have to get to the quarterback. That’s something we hadn’t been as good at all season as we normally have been in the past. So if you’re not getting Depression you need to get you know the man to man situation you only got so you can only cover for so long that ball is gonna come out so we’ve been terrible at getting pressure on quarterbacks to force that. So how do you justify continuing to blitz even though we hadn’t been hitting home with the sets
Unknown Speaker 10:17
is not is not even a matter of you having the Blitz the whole game. That’s not what we believe we blitzed in that game from what I remember two or three times and we got there we got there on those two or three blitzes that we
Unknown Speaker 10:37
were with winning win again this probably you see you’re thinking too much. I did enough. I did enough to try to take care of your ass. The whole issue was there. I used to return to record. Definitely Ladies
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and gentlemen, welcome Antonio. Brown.
Steve Brown 11:31
Happy to be back. Man. I had to take two weeks off and have some personal business but I’m back man. What were we talking about? A fire and pee going again? Which I fired him.
Unknown Speaker 11:42
When we’re just talking about that,
Unknown Speaker 11:44
amen. Man, the defense was so awful Saturday, Marvin. He just kept texting me he was mad. I understand what he’s saying is all his word was misspelled.
Steve Brown 12:06
Amen, and at what a man would say so. I’m gonna tell you the best part of that game. The best part of that game for me was when samen was been he was trying to been open playing off the saving bit over with him and customers as well.
Unknown Speaker 12:29
And usually, usually, the cameraman will keep the camera on statement as he cursed the coaches out for like three seconds. I got mad at him. And Martin.
Unknown Speaker 12:41
You say What?
Steve Brown 12:42
Did you see how cost saving? I got an M p
Marvin Constant 12:46
golden mass? Yeah, but they didn’t show too much, though. They sped up debt.
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Steve Brown 12:57
I thought I thought I thought I thought the defense under the defense had arrived. But then again, he would go dead again.
Marvin Constant 13:05
They know I’ll be honest with you, you know, we got to play a Clemson Ohio State. That’s gonna be a tough sale on defense force. That’s gonna be real tough. I mean, because when you play quarterbacks, like Trevor Lawrence and Justin fields, especially once you can extend plays with a feat. So you know, they gonna make those plays go a little bit longer, so they got to cover longer. And with the calls that Pete made, I just don’t see it going well.
Steve Brown 13:34
And you know, I mean, I don’t I don’t understand. He calls the most to me he calls the most the absolute most ineffective blitzes in the God in the damn world. I don’t know. I mean, I mean, this this is this blitzes never get home I don’t understand who knows and
it’s blesses never get home.
Marvin Constant 14:07
It’s been rough man. So
Justin Riley 14:11
how are we able to limit Kyle to pits where you pretty much forgot about him in the first half. All of a sudden the second half he looks like a pro bowler
Marvin Constant 14:20
matchups, man matchups you know for most of the time he wasn’t
Steve Brown 14:27
you know what I noticed to me the reason he got loose like that because the first half Alabama was calling aggressively they were calling attacking defense and then it seemed like they just settled into a cover for just settle and just let him do what he wanted to do. Like Like right before the half before they scored and we came and score right right right before them that’s when saving curse them out because they scored so easily. is like playing an assault zone and it’ll just grow on a ball down the field. Like Come on. Man, What do y’all know? You know? All right,
Marvin Constant 15:02
it did not look good at all, you know.
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Marvin Constant 15:08
I don’t know how we’re gonna be successful in the playoffs with what we doing defensively. I really don’t
Steve Brown 15:15
care what you think, man. What do you think? Well, I
Unknown Speaker 15:17
think I think defensively we’re playing a couple of true freshmen, you know what I mean? So that’s always gonna be tough on those guys. So I think at the end of the day, we really have to get more pressure up front, you know, to help those
Steve Brown 15:32
guys out in the secondary. No, but but but you know, what, me the true freshmen a ball now. That’s true.
Unknown Speaker 15:41
But, you know,
Steve Brown 15:42
I could allow Malecon more to make a mistake or two because he’s been balling out of control the whole season. And On another subject, your ceiling fan is ugly.
Marvin Constant 15:59
You know who we can get a great a great input from about freshmen balling out. Antonio Langer. He’s a freshman basketball coach, so he know all about freshman
Unknown Speaker 16:11
basketball. Hey, do
Unknown Speaker 16:48
you know what I do? I sit. I sit there with a woman around my neck I practice with my feet my foot propped up on the damn bench and I just sit there watch practice that. I don’t know what’s going on here.
Justin Riley 16:59
That’s the same exact thing Pete Gold’s doing.
Steve Brown 17:09
Listen, you know what what’s back? You know what not now now. Justin, every time we have x Bama players come on, they always try to be politically correct. So let’s put them on the spot. Kurt. What do you think about the Divas coordinator?
Marvin Constant 17:24
Keep it real keep it 100 you’re in a safe place and nobody can talk about
Unknown Speaker 17:29
that ceiling fan though.
Unknown Speaker 17:35
He’s still got a lot of work to do. Yeah, I mean, he’s still got a lot of work to do.
Unknown Speaker 17:40
That’s that’s a that’s a real politically
Marvin Constant 17:42
Justin Riley 17:48
We’re gonna go to Chris now Chris, go ahead. Go for what
Unknown Speaker 17:53
why Charlie strung along the sideline. Instead of he goes, I don’t understand you got the best divas coordinators in the damn nation and he put him take him to switch spots. So we can just cut up this leg and start doing supposed to do
Unknown Speaker 18:11
now he is he the first player to say that he really really meant I like you, man. I like you.
Steve Brown 18:20
Look, do me a favor. Steven. Can you push your glasses? Thank you.
Justin Riley 18:41
Chris, back your day, man. You bought it out. If you cannot come up with a defense coach by man like that was the first thing that comes to your mind.
Unknown Speaker 18:50
We’re gonna run that total sleep. You run it we’ll run it till the wheels fall off. We’re gonna run all day. Man. This is so soft. And it’s the players are good enough to make play. They got to be in the right positions. I was a little disappointed. I thought it should have played a bit better. getting burnt like he was close to the sun. It was ridiculous man certeyn and all these cats are there making plays. They got to be in the right situation. Don’t think p gold is putting them in the right situation. Like see what happened with that shit. I can I can just think Well, okay, I’m,
Steve Brown 19:32
uh, you know what, man? You know. I’m glad you said that. I’m glad you said that. Justin did not say that all year. I said he is not putting these players in the position to make plays. I said that all year long.
Marvin Constant 19:49
You and me both. I’ve been said Pete need to be some were slinging french fries. This is a new career path.
Justin Riley 19:55
He probably missed the plate.
way things are going I was about ready to put Matthew back there playing defense no son but I know he can hit
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Stephen M. Smith 20:11
man just that hit was too bad just it was too bad
Justin Riley 20:16
I think we need a Daniel more painting of that.
Unknown Speaker 20:19
Yeah they do
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Steve Brown 20:25
Demetri come in as a as a defensive back at first he was
Stephen M. Smith 20:31
no, he was he he came he came as a wide receiver but he can play DB
Steve Brown 20:37
shit no he can play live back with that damn it
Justin Riley 20:42
they do in Canada man. Dang
Marvin Constant 20:45
a man when he hit but I dropped my whole couple
to get cleaned up like that in a long time with the exception of crack back blah. I see me a
Steve Brown 21:03
you know what? So so you know what? So So is it fair to say that but for Alabama to win and I’m asking you Steve, I’m asking you Steve. Is it fair to say for Alabama to win the national championship? We got to outscore people
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Yeah. Because pretty much
Marvin Constant 21:24
when you sit down nobody we not send down Trevor Lawrence we not send down Justin field. I think Ian Booker give us problems man.
Justin Riley 21:32
Anybody halfway decent hold on don’t
Unknown Speaker 21:34
go that far now.
Unknown Speaker 21:34
Don’t go that far.
Marvin Constant 21:37
It ain’t that I have credit an Eon book I just don’t have none MP gold.
Steve Brown 21:42
Well you know what man you gotta understand em book is a is a is a mobile quarterback now he’s a he’s a mobile quarterback so you know
Unknown Speaker 21:53
not to make adjustments you know what I mean? adjustments gonna be made eventually. Yeah, exactly. Which is why I’m telling you they’re gonna make adjustments so we share different CB you know
Marvin Constant 22:11
that are definitely gonna be hopefully p golden getting this out walking papers after the season Oh, that’s gonna be the adjustment.
Unknown Speaker 22:17
No no Mike What about now what about the boat again?
Unknown Speaker 22:21
I wish they would man
Justin Riley 22:25
they kicked out like kitten before game why not Pete please
Unknown Speaker 22:31
do Stop man.
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Job wait no wait no not waiting on the job right now. One but he even have one and tell you how
Marvin Constant 22:44
come help Tony Oh coach High School.
Unknown Speaker 22:49
Hey, tell him to go find mouse college they hired
Antonio Langham 22:56
a rough and you know man you talking about his program man.
Steve Brown 23:10
He can heal. I’m seeing a wow with mouse college. want somebody like Pete golden if they are with ITT tech.
Unknown Speaker 23:30
See, they need somebody to cut that grass.
Marvin Constant 23:36
Man, I’ma tell y’all something. I watch SportsCenter ESPN all day. I’m still I’m just waiting for the ticket to come across. Pete gold is suspended for conduct detrimental key I’m just waiting. Man get him out of there.
Unknown Speaker 23:55
Made to a true enough. We got a lot of points put up on us the other night. But at the end of the day, we still undefeated.
Unknown Speaker 24:02
That’s true, but for
Unknown Speaker 24:03
how long? But you know
Steve Brown 24:04
what, man but you know what? It’s it’s we’re undefeated, but it’s a worrisome undefeated season. Because Because Because I don’t care what nobody say man. I’ve been watching y’all for years, and nobody has put up them. Many points on Bama in the season since I know of alabama football and that is embarrassing. That’s embarrassing.
Stephen M. Smith 24:27
Hey, but here we go. But But your boy got to go. Yeah, bit David. And
Unknown Speaker 24:42
Dan is 28 years old. He ain’t got no.
Marvin Constant 24:53
Unknown Speaker 24:54
It’s time to turn it over to the offense to be effective. Defense. So you can’t touch him. They call him apparently. So it’s so hard. But he’s cast to do the job a lot of times, and it’s more of an offensive minded scheme. So we will have to ask for people wearing a belt to just stop with being a more 10 to 50 games, it’s gonna be probably, you know, like we’ve seen last few times where it is. You got to think it’s more office minded nowadays. So,
Unknown Speaker 25:20
any man, I’m
Marvin Constant 25:23
minded for years, man, that dude just suck, man he saw, he saw Brian, you know,
Steve Brown 25:28
I’m sorry to say this man. And I hate it. But I’m really I’m really, really disappointed in our middle linebacker. He’s been getting abused the whole season. And he’s such a talented guy, man. He mean, I think he’s really mentally in himself, because he’s still worried about his knee. I really believe that man, because he because I mean, before he got hurt, he was like the man. Now he’s missing tackles. He has everything going on with me. So Antonio, do you think he’s he still worried about the knee?
Antonio Langham 26:00
Nah, he’s not worried about their knee. He really wanted to. He really wanted to jump ship, when he heard that he really wanted to jump ship and go and go pro. Now, trust me when I tell you this, these young guys nowadays, a lot of when they get concerned about their career, on the next level, they play football cautiously, they call it a play to protect themselves and make sure you had a major knee injury and he doesn’t want it again. So he’s playing constantly to make sure that he doesn’t get injured and he doesn’t mess up his his actual his draft position. Now he’s messing it up by not playing playing football but he that’s why he pushed so hard for that Lloyd’s of London insurance policy. He is trying to he was he’s trying to protect themselves so it’s like I’m gonna go I’m gonna do enough to start but I’m not gonna jeopardize a whole lot of it’s no different than a boy postcard bro when he heard when he had their fraction against Clemson. Right, right. Right. Both both could have came back to play. I heard from quite a few people that both that the injury was not enough where both couldn’t have played or they would have jeopardized his career. And both chose to sit in the in the in the locker room because Are you concerned about interfere dress that is man? Let me just say this about Pete let me say this about Pete Golding real quick man. I play man. I am I’m here. I played for Nick. And the problem with Pete golden right now is Pete golden is tried to call a defense exactly like the way Nick wants him to call him. So P golden is trying to think just like Nick Saban Jeromy Pruitt has success because he’s dropped this lesson told Nick I can’t call football like this. Let me call it the way the hell I want to call it. And he was he has success. Kirby was the same way. Pete Golden’s is trying to do exactly the way Nick have asked him to do it. And at the same time, he can’t you he can’t think like Nick just like Nick K. Think like he goes. If he golden. These next couple of games, he drives me nuts and say, Man, fuck that. Let me call it the way I want to call it. And let me run a deep into where I want to do it. I think you have better success right now. Nick is saying this is how I want you to call me He’s trying his best to do it. But you can’t do it like because everybody thinks
Steve Brown 28:12
he’s so he’s playing. He’s playing the safe mode again.
Unknown Speaker 28:15
There you go.
Steve Brown 28:16
Man. You know what the thing is, you know who I admire? And this brother is on the other side of the ball in this. It should. I don’t know man, something should click in and Dylan Moses hit man, the dude Dickerson the center, he went down playing hard. We played hard every down ever now. I wish that that was one of the best centers I’ve seen in Alabama. Not only that, not only did he abuse his opponent, he taught him and when he turned him he still made him look bad. I never seen anybody abuse this
Marvin Constant 28:53
guy. Hey, did you say he tarnished? No.
Steve Brown 29:03
I didn’t say tarnish. I said taunted
Antonio Langham 29:13
real quick. Why do we have to sit here on this call and make it more of a head neck and behind?
Marvin Constant 29:22
That’s because I got my 40 plus jobs sweatshirt on today, so for those of you who don’t know, I got the before and after
Steve Brown 29:33
you your second trimester pregnant
Marvin Constant 29:50
Hey, why don’t you look like that midget l from that movie with Oh boy.
Unknown Speaker 29:56
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Unknown Speaker 30:08
Back to the defense though. Yes. Okay, so to piggyback off of what Lange was saying a few minutes ago, right? Uh yeah, he’s probably trying to call plays or call a defense exactly how Nick wants to know wants to call but at the end of the day fellas these guys still got to make plays out there you know i mean the front end the defensive line got to get pushed he can’t he can’t make them good push you know what I mean? Right? They got to do the jobs.
Marvin Constant 30:37
Okay, you say that but hold on you right players got to make plays but it goes back to the position you in No, because if they run in a dive down hill, but you got linebackers out of place how you don’t stop there. If you went in a coverage that’s designed for two receivers, but they got three or four people who went in deep how you gonna stop it? You got to match what you see. So a lot of times we just embed position because the calls got us all over the place.
Steve Brown 31:11
Steven Steven so beyond I know you’re a sports writer. So your opinion matters and it is your opinion so people can’t get mad at you for what you say and what you write because that’s your job. What do you think of we go
Stephen M. Smith 31:25
way over his head he way over his head but
Unknown Speaker 31:28
I mean he’s been around
Stephen M. Smith 31:33
he came from like small school programs
when he got when he got the job so I thought Nick was thinking this Nick was thinking I I got Kirby smart small right? I got Kirby smart small guy I’m young. Maybe if I was able to train up Kirby so maybe if I get another one from a small area train him up like I did Kirby Kirby that was
Steve Brown 32:09
made man and do not do or don’t have the mindset the Caribbean. I’m sorry.
Stephen M. Smith 32:14
That’s what I’m saying. That’s I’m saying it’s just crazy how we’re Nick brought me to the interview like Justin was saying, the dude rock the interview? Absolutely.
Marvin Constant 32:23
Yeah. Hold on timeout. Don’t ever reference Pete golden in the same sentence with Kirby smart if you gonna say anything Kirby related to keto they better be him sending Kirby vacuum cleaners don’t eat competitive.
Stephen M. Smith 32:38
Dude. I’m saying mom, in a sense of what Nick would have been thinking, what Saban would have been thinking, I think,
Marvin Constant 32:48
I think much more highly of coaching that coach would not have not been
Unknown Speaker 32:59
thought about this, though, as everybody thought about. As far as the game plan going. Do the players actually understand the game plan? And the adjustments that come in the second half, because that could have a lot to do with it.
Steve Brown 33:14
But go ahead with it. You know what, though, man, if you you had 11 games you should know the defense by now. And you should know all of the adjustments if it if a defense coordinator or office coordinator is teaching this his team. He’s teaching you how to check out he’s teaching you at audible. All we said 10 plus games,
Unknown Speaker 33:39
they got to know that
Unknown Speaker 33:43
unnecessarily because sometimes you add things in to your own game plan that you hadn’t done all year. And they get in the heat of battle when you get in the heat of battle sometimes don’t click
Steve Brown 33:56
Oh, so you may need a lot of what you’re trying to say is a lot of battle players were like remedial classes like me. Playing Santa Claus.
Unknown Speaker 34:18
Sometimes Sometimes when you come up with a game plan, the defense coordinator sees a game plan as a great thing. But as a defensive player yourself, you looking at it like why are we doing this? And you don’t question your defense coordinator because yeah, I asked him I couldn’t question about langem had the authority to question anything that we did
Steve Brown 34:50
get the question everything when he been getting burned all year, interception and gallons a day you
Oh yeah Hold on.
Unknown Speaker 35:24
Got a painting Who does that? He got he got he got burned on he got burned on this he got burned. He got burned off they will you mean? Oh? You mean to me and he had that
Antonio Langham 36:05
and really why he didn’t have enough authority? Go see Listen, anytime a man fall asleep in a meeting and the coach catch him and he as well again he said when are you sleeping in my meeting? And when he looks at him with a straight face he says no coach, I was sleeping. I just gave you a real slow bleep
Steve Brown 36:30
me so Justin This is what I came back this is what I came back
Justin Riley 37:13
apparently So yeah, I think yeah on Facebook A while back.
Steve Brown 37:25
You this do y’all think Is it is it Dickerson that went down the center? Yeah. Well I think from what I’m reading his replacement just as good Well, here’s
Marvin Constant 37:42
the thing I’ve always learned from playing sports your starter is a starter for a reason.
Unknown Speaker 37:47
Yeah. But what do you think Steven?
Stephen M. Smith 37:51
I’ve always been a bit was me I will start down court man that boy devil dog I will start selling to one the saw more down court everyone someone else? I would not I would not start on Wednesday and it’s not it’s no offense to him but he don’t got that mean you start Dickerson god man you don’t have it
Steve Brown 38:11
that’s what I like about Dickerson I wish I wish everybody on the defensive side of the ball and that means like
Marvin Constant 38:23
yeah we it’s like we have two completely different teams our offense and defense not match it’s like we got we got on a suit up top with some shorts at the bottom it some biker shorts, man right with a fanny packs. We just all over the place.
Unknown Speaker 38:41
Man Oh wow.
Marvin Constant 38:42
Man, not the fanny packs man. A man listen after that performance last week against a team that just lost to LSU with a freshman quarterback and they had Burger King Kashi is playing DB to find a play DB
Unknown Speaker 39:02
Ms. And let’s not forget the brother threw a shoe. Yeah.
Steve Brown 39:08
You know what though, man? I believe that a Florida they’ve been preparing for Bama. Anyway, they weren’t even they were
Stephen M. Smith 39:22
and Steve no matter what state you didn’t write about that because the last four weeks from Vanderbilt down to LSU. They they slept walked. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 39:34
It is sleepwalk
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unless you got athletes.
Marvin Constant 39:42
They don’t keep Steve Did you not see LSU plan with what one scholarship DB I think it would need an MS. You didn’t have Maria DB plans the
Steve Brown 39:57
babies. I but you know what? They know what oh One thing about LSU that Bama didn’t do LSU they may have played with non scholarship DBS but that but that front seven was given to that quarterback
Marvin Constant 40:11
and that’s why I say we can’t play man like we play man because we don’t get the pressure to match man coverage if you’re gonna play a lot of man coverage you got to have some dogs a friend who can make that ball come out quick because I’m telling you that as Tonio you can ask me today’s quarterback out all day to throw the ball you can’t cover him all day in man coverage that ball got to come out quick that means whoever you got blitzing, they need to be coming off very fast. Well,
Steve Brown 40:36
I will I will say the key we’ll Anderson Anderson is coming along. I think he he’s like our he’s a freshman he’s our best pass rusher and number four um, he’s only
Stephen M. Smith 40:51
Justin Riley 40:52
well stacks right now. Yeah, yeah.
Marvin Constant 40:57
Outside of him. What do we have covered?
Steve Brown 41:09
But you know, it was crazy. You name Malecon Moore. And and we’ll and both of them are freshmen. Right? The rest of that defense should be a freakin shame. And I’m saying
Unknown Speaker 41:24
well, we’ll Anderson as a man. It was
Marvin Constant 41:29
Harris though Christian Harris. He’s been playing some bado so take away from him. Yeah. Chris
Justin Riley 41:42
Let me ask a question. What what similarities Do you see with will Anderson say Copeland curry?
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Justin Riley 41:53
I asked if there were any similarities you might see between will Anderson and john Copeland and Eric curry?
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Unknown Speaker 42:02
Then take that there are different players man, he’s a different player than those guys.
Steve Brown 42:08
back and say I can say this. I think personally. I’m gonna go away old school. Will enderson kind of reminds me of a younger version of Canadian Spanish. I will say that.
Unknown Speaker 42:23
I thought I thought she was gonna say Derrick Thomas
Justin Riley 42:28
some people have actually said that. Yeah, I’ve actually seen that float around.
Unknown Speaker 42:33
Hey, Stevie That kid is is is for real either true. Yeah.
Justin Riley 42:43
That’s how I tackle so well. He’s gonna be mean
Steve Brown 42:51
and I’m gonna tell you something. He would have had a lot more sacks he was doing a lot he was missing a lot of tackles the first of the seasons he was right there on the quarterback and was flat off every time
Stephen M. Smith 43:08
now, I’m gonna tell you I’m gonna tell you what happens to you see, I text we’ll answer for the iron ball. I told him if you don’t get this second is over you ain’t getting no psi. And he woke up
Marvin Constant 43:20
Hey, Stevie you got you got so now this PS five man you are here with the VFW people on your man a
Unknown Speaker 43:33
Sega Dreamcast beer.
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Too much. We we?
Unknown Speaker 43:41
Okay, you. Yeah.
Marvin Constant 43:49
You got to go back to Jack’s hopscotch.
Unknown Speaker 43:56
Marvin Constant 43:58
might be the youngest person on the call.
Steve Brown 44:03
So So who got the Heisman?
Marvin Constant 44:09
Honestly, if I had to give it out, I would give it to devonte popularity contest? Oh,
Justin Riley 44:15
yeah. I’ll see this playing out. Right.
Unknown Speaker 44:23
I’m sorry. Go ahead.
Steve Brown 44:26
I gotta give it to the bounty.
Marvin Constant 44:28
Yeah. But we know it’s a popularity contest. And we know they give it to quarterbacks. Again. When was the last person to win a Heisman Trophy was a wide receiver. 1997 91.
Steve Brown 44:41
But Marvin, Marvin, you got to understand something. And I want you to check this out. If you don’t believe me, guess who’s trending more than anybody. It’s boys.
Unknown Speaker 44:51
Don’t say oh well listen. This is the kicker. Actually, the two front loaders should be Mack Jones and devonta. Smith.
Justin Riley 45:08
Yep. Well, the ride on that. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Somehow, Trevor Lawrence is back in the conversation again How?
Unknown Speaker 45:15
He missed two games. He shouldn’t even be in it.
Unknown Speaker 45:18
I agree. Know what?
Justin Riley 45:20
That shows you. It’s a popularity contest at the end of the day, he’s college football, poster boy,
Steve Brown 45:26
it will be the reason. The reason I would give it to the Pontic is because the vontae has really made Matt Jones. Some of those throws were behind too high. He was he was going to get them.
Stephen M. Smith 45:44
Look, look. See, this was a bunch of go in the vontae Smith and paying child support for fall defensive secondaries in the sec. Even paying child support.
Unknown Speaker 45:58
Hey, you got a point there, but at the end of the day, the reason why this kid should win, he’s the best football player comes football. But
Marvin Constant 46:08
but you know to think about it, I’m not gonna say one way or another that I’m gonna be disappointed if he doesn’t win. I will be because he deserves it. But the thing that should happen, history should be made at the Heisman trophy presentation. Alabama should be the first school in history to Heisman Trophy go 123 Nancy Harris should be the third runner up for the Heisman Trophy.
Unknown Speaker 46:28
Unknown Speaker 46:32
I don’t know how y’all feel about it, but I think I think the vontae is deserving of it. I think Matt Jones is deserving of a two man.
Steve Brown 46:41
Hey, man. What a what? A win. Let’s Let’s march from Coleman Coliseum to Jax.
Unknown Speaker 46:59
I’m about to get off but I’m gonna tell you right now Notre Dame for the kids sit down smoke. They can’t score like Florida score.
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Their weakness right now.
Unknown Speaker 47:10
even know why I don’t even know why Notre Dame is even in it.
Justin Riley 47:15
Let me ask you this. Did the playoff committee get this right?
Unknown Speaker 47:20
Justin Riley 47:24
Curtis Who do you think? Well, how would you rank it right now? one through four.
Unknown Speaker 47:29
Well, it would be Alabama it will be Clemson. Dan it would be Texas a&m. I think they deserve love it. Mm hmm. You know, I mean,
Marvin Constant 47:42
after they got beat by Bama by four touchdowns, that’s what screwed them. So I wouldn’t even give him two texts in
Steve Brown 47:47
the season. Oh,
Justin Riley 47:49
yeah. So that’s a good point. It was early in the season. They lost early in the season, they had chance to bet the bounce back and they and they got better as the season progressed, nowadays.
Steve Brown 48:00
You know what, it’s all about politics again, because let’s let’s keep it real. Nobody is going to watch a Bama and Texas a&m game. Nobody’s gonna do that. Okay. And honestly, a Ohio State don’t deserve to be in but let’s keep it real. Who wouldn’t want to watch Ohio State vs Bama or Ohio State vs. clemson. The ratings are going to shoot through the roof. Y’all already know that? No, I’ll be honest with you though. And that’s why Notre Dame is here because that’s the money game.
Marvin Constant 48:33
I get a number four spot to Cincinnati if I had a vote I wouldn’t be honest. But you know, I will give it to them. I can wait to prove themselves and they get blowed out being in the future. Can nobody say that? We never gave the other non power five Congress’s a chance more chance one time to make
Steve Brown 48:52
way stuff and get it over with no you’re looking for nobody got time for know.
Marvin Constant 49:04
Unknown Speaker 49:07
if you go
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Justin Riley 49:10
well they lead to Oregon. That’s left against Oregon and got beat by the team that weren’t even supposed to be in the championship.
Unknown Speaker 49:19
called me up in there.
Unknown Speaker 49:21
Oregon is supposed to be boring and slipped in laws to
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Justin Riley 49:27
they lost a California and Oregon State the worst teams in the conference
Unknown Speaker 49:30
are supposed to be the Cinderella team for the pack foil. So Steven
Unknown Speaker 49:38
who should jump or be who Joe for me.
Stephen M. Smith 49:42
Ah man it’s crazy right here. So my my four here our to go Bama. Clemson, Ohio State. And even though they did either they did get beat by Bama. I would still put them in there.
Steve Brown 49:59
Okay. Hey Marvin I’m looking at Stephens car and I see from his background he on the west side said buy weed again
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rare I got I got you I’m trying to get a 20 I get I can get
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a stay I’ll run outside the trap house
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Marvin Constant 50:40
I hope not to fit around it but to get back in like number one go
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driving to Kansas yeah the back curtain
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yeah well we
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bought a house no ice cream
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Steve Brown 51:47
that dude ah Justin does Antonio look like a coaster don’t know his place
Stephen M. Smith 52:25
no man always
Unknown Speaker 52:27
Hey, I want to know
Steve Brown 52:29
what that’s okay because guess what your body’s gonna go improve and y’all got y’all season is gonna be like your your jersey in college y’all gonna go full in three
Justin Riley 52:44
don’t you stay golden NBA Jam is on fire
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for LOCOG so yeah. Oh god the day man. Okay, okay
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yeah, check yeah man
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might ask you to code Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 53:22
we need a we need a receivers code for receiving code man.
Marvin Constant 53:29
You want to pass a rousing basketball
Unknown Speaker 53:38
corner blitzes last week?
Unknown Speaker 53:40
We need a we need a coach but we can’t hire you cuz all like he had to quit football as Bob Marley and Calvin Klein underwear.
Justin Riley 54:05
Only fans account.
Stephen M. Smith 54:11
Justin, Justin, Justin down below Bro. Bro. That was a low blow just
Justin Riley 54:20
he was joking. Oh, my baby from Mississippi earlier this week. So you know.
Marvin Constant 54:26
Me it’s Mississippi. I mean, that’s easy.
Steve Brown 54:31
Oh man, Steve Steven went dark bit and jumped on him on the west side.
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Jumping on, I
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Justin Riley 55:11
So Curtis, how do you compare this wide receiver group to the receiver group you had? I know y’all didn’t air it out very much back in your day. But you guys had some special man. What similarities Do you see between your group and this group right now?
Unknown Speaker 55:25
Well, they want to be great. You know what I mean? They go out in and make plays weekend and week out. And yeah, they making big plays weekend and week out.
Justin Riley 55:38
And how is the vontae single handily been able to just take over the college football world? I mean, it’s just, it’s been amazing. It’s like it. It’s been a long time coming gradually building up. What was he doing different than no one can seem to have an answer for?
Unknown Speaker 55:50
Well, I don’t know the kid. But it appears to me that his work ethic is out of the roof. You’re not a man. And a lot of times you can tell that in people’s place. And I’m assuming that’s what it is.
Steve Brown 56:04
Amen. He reminds me of Jerry Rice.
Stephen M. Smith 56:10
He met me and I see I see a little bit more Marvin Harrison the Jerry Rice. Oh, I see. Marvin Harrison.
Unknown Speaker 56:21
Unknown Speaker 56:27
This young man is crispy.
Justin Riley 56:29
They claim they are clean. He’s got this that this set of second gear. It’s like he’s just kind of stride stride boom, they slice it like a shoots out of a cannon?
Steve Brown 56:41
Like me like me,
Unknown Speaker 56:43
but I think I think so. I think also a lot of people that he has deceiving strip, you know, I mean, he seems to be a very strong kid. It’d be so so yeah,
Unknown Speaker 56:53
he really is. Yeah.
Steve Brown 56:55
So I’m just gonna ask this question. What Have y’all seen Jaylen waddle on the sidelines? y’all think he’s gonna be better?
Justin Riley 57:07
I want to ask that question. What do y’all think? There’s been a lot of talk about it. Does he come back lay off
Unknown Speaker 57:13
as a player I wouldn’t do.
Marvin Constant 57:16
I mean, for the risk of injury, but the thing about it, the thing that I’ve noticed about those guys, those guys love to play together. To me, like he don’t want to be nothing on the table. So I wouldn’t be surprised if we seen.
Unknown Speaker 57:33
What do you think, Stephen?
Stephen M. Smith 57:33
What do you think? The fact that devonta Smith had an Instagram video of genuine water without that budong and they send them after kicking it with each other? I think I think we’re gonna come back. I think we’re gonna play the game. I think it won’t be the playoffs.
Justin Riley 57:50
And it had a video of him doing squats too. So
Unknown Speaker 57:52
Justin Riley 57:53
He’s looking good. Tonio. What do you think?
Antonio Langham 57:58
I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t, I’m pretty sure he wants to make the jump. And I wouldn’t take the chance. So going back, I think and an internet thing again, I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s a he’s a top 10 pick right now. I don’t know if I jeopardize going back out there. But now he had his mind made up that he’s going to come back next year, then I will. I will go ahead and play but if your mind is made up, he’s probably going he’s gonna go ahead and make that jump. I wouldn’t do it. I don’t think I’d make take that chance at this.
Unknown Speaker 58:29
So so so Antonio is kind of like a it’s kind of like a business decision. Right?
Antonio Langham 58:34
Right. Okay. Different than Dylan Moses.
Steve Brown 58:39
Moses, Moses, drop man, I hate it for him, but I think he’s dropped.
Justin Riley 58:44
He’s played him down x x. fl.
Stephen M. Smith 58:47
Antonio, always want to ask this question Antonio always want to ask this question. So what make it San Antonio? Like what makes the players that have to make that decision on if I know I won’t be a top 10 pick. But I know I still want to play football with my boys in college. What’s the hardest part making that decision
Antonio Langham 59:07
and not a hard part right now cuz everybody seemed to be opt in now. So nobody really cared about the team right now because a big deal a lot of these guys that are often now without doubt they will still continue to play. How do you get toward the end of the season like guys LSU other places you get to the end of the season and then you decide I’m I’m opt out you had that opportunity at the beginning of the season, right either I’ve done but I feel like if you’re going if you go and join in, if you’re gonna stay there, finish it out. Now his case now, everybody makes a decision based up on probably two people. Agent and Uncle everybody got off.
Unknown Speaker 59:51
Got that one offer to say, Man, you good man. We got to go get this money man and you got to go back at their place. So
Antonio Langham 1:00:00
I mean it’s a tough it’s a tough decision for your young kid at that age man but if he’s if he’s thinking thinking the next level i don’t i don’t think he comes back
Steve Brown 1:00:10
now you know what I’m gonna throw a little wrinkle in the situation to now Wish me nipple LSU Steven I think you can probably back me up on this the player from LSU they want opting out because of their future they are opting out because they because oh john loves that locker room because of that march
Stephen M. Smith 1:00:32
with that knowledge that they lost they are you know the players I’ve got the cars man, but also on either play as a backing song Joe Burrell go Joe brandy go so on so go little Tim down they all go Why did he go ahead and leave to so it was not just the fact of the march though that played a role in it definitely. But I think a lot of those guys look back and saw LSU losing all of these players to the draft Why do I need to be here
Steve Brown 1:01:04
you know what, man that that that takes me back to high school was ours especially with eight people and all of them got out
I’m not gonna go to first lunch by myself
Justin Riley 1:01:26
you’re the you’re the Ben Davis and special ed. You’re there
Steve Brown 1:01:30
i was i was i was in the same class when the class we just changed this
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Steve Brown 1:01:56
put up your ceiling fan. I’m sure your house is beautiful, but their ceiling fan don’t go
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so yeah, so So yeah, yeah, yeah. Watching
Unknown Speaker 1:02:39
it will be making a huge mistake to play. Yeah. No need to do that man. Hey, y’all.
Stephen M. Smith 1:02:48
I’m gonna hop off here man. Christmas stuff Take care. But y’all be good
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Steve Brown 1:02:58
Hey, Steve. No spin on that place.
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I got Yeah, you got you got
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Oh my god.
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Around the bond dope in the back of an Uber.
Justin Riley 1:03:34
How the vontae was a hard worker. So is Nadia Harris. What he did the offseason really prepared him for his success on the field this season. He’s been able to do more and less time than both Ingram and Henry. What has he done this just allowed him to be so successful this year?
Marvin Constant 1:03:50
Hold on timeout. Let me go ahead and jump in real quick on this. I said earlier that nazy should be the third finished third and has new voting. What he did this past week against Florida lining up at wide receiver with those touchdowns that he called from the wide receiver position motion out of the back Yeah, that’s not something you can see everyone in back do because most running backs don’t have hands like that. He put on a display this past weekend man when I say I have never seen a running back catch the ball like that. And down to man showed me some I didn’t think I could see
Steve Brown 1:04:27
it. He reminded me he reminded me of a complete player like Marshall. Marshall ran he called the rally was that man was there like a slave? What was it
Marvin Constant 1:04:42
like short posts,
Steve Brown 1:04:45
not what no posts now post is going towards the goalpost Marvin. That’s why you’ll be No,
Marvin Constant 1:05:01
you know what it was a short post that he caught
Unknown Speaker 1:05:06
it was like a slap. It was like a sweat
Marvin Constant 1:05:10
test now was a snap. Yeah, you see the slant or drag route
Steve Brown 1:05:13
we know the touchdown when every time you get a touchdown, he ran the same route at least three times and
Marvin Constant 1:05:24
when he caught one of the touchdown, he has some catches not the touchdown. He has some catches that was spectacular. That was good. But he bailed out max several times with some nice catches. This is
Steve Brown 1:05:35
why I say they should be the highest negator right there because they Yes, that’s why he should be
Unknown Speaker 1:05:46
Wouldn’t it be crazy to have one two and three high?
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caste what it should be?
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It might be the way it should
Unknown Speaker 1:05:56
be. You already know doing politics that’s not gonna happen. They’re not gonna allow that.
Justin Riley 1:06:02
When’s the last time y’all saw one team have two players with both both records in their respective positions? Google records both their respective positions. Now Jones every Russian record devart receiving records. Who else do you know that
Unknown Speaker 1:06:18
as far as I know of you’ve never seen me.
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Okay now in the St. Louis Rams The Greatest Show
Marvin Constant 1:06:31
was it add a bunch of them
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I don’t think
Marvin Constant 1:06:42
that’s the only step that you took in high school football than in a
Justin Riley 1:06:48
band college not even a liner and Reggie Bush did that at USC so we’re doing something nobody’s ever done before.
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Justin Riley 1:07:03
he knows he did enough to move up number three.
Marvin Constant 1:07:07
I would hope so. Man his performance this past week man running the ball catching the ball blocking that was one of the best running back performances I’ve seen.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:16
Amen. I steal as to say that was with Sean Alexander.
Marvin Constant 1:07:24
No, because she can’t catch the ball like nice that’s the reason why we lost the tendency on the wheel rational wide open he dropped the ball I remember that.
Justin Riley 1:07:33
I do remember that.
Marvin Constant 1:07:34
Yeah, I couldn’t catch you save the life
Unknown Speaker 1:07:38
he couldn’t block either.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:40
He didn’t want to block
Justin Riley 1:07:43
the wheel was telling the players that next next year I don’t want another solid van on this team. I was a practicing a day.
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Steve Brown 1:07:52
Hey, you know what? Speaking the practice you know what scared me one thing and I think it happened two or three days ago, when I heard this cert was going to interview with Al anon We
Justin Riley 1:08:05
ain’t go No, no, we’re now he got that nice extension. Got that money.
Steve Brown 1:08:08
I think Did you think he’s gonna be saving successor?
Justin Riley 1:08:13
And it won’t be possible. Well, that may have been how they convinced Bryce young to come your way. Ross young. Oh. Well, this this talk about Mac how impression with y’all as far as his growth this year? And is there ever gonna be a debate between who was better him or two? Actually,
Steve Brown 1:08:39
you know what, man, the thing is, I think I think Mac had longer to develop. And, and, um, that’s what I think it was just raw talent. But Mac had longer to develop and learn. And, I mean, they still want to give them the game manager attack, but he’s a little bit more than the game. He’s not as not as athletic as today or whatever. But again, I think to what came in with raw talent. And I think Matt had the advantage sitting behind him for all those years, whatever it takes to develop, so it’s paying off. You know, that’s what I think.
Marvin Constant 1:09:18
I don’t think that ever be a conversation because honestly, I think second and 26 put two in a category completely different than everybody else. So you know, from that point forward, he separated himself from the rest no matter what they need. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:34
We are. But I’m gonna tell you I’m gonna say this.
Justin Riley 1:09:37
We’ve won se championship after you guys want it back in 92. What was the message that Jane Stallings was preaching to you guys as far as what happens next?
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was in a locker room you have
Justin Riley 1:09:56
Willie Willie. He weren’t paying attention. He was on Tinder right then he didn’t know what to say.
Marvin Constant 1:10:03
He never gave a rebuttal to Antonio saying you would have been the one that shoe even.
Unknown Speaker 1:10:08
I’m still trying to understand why my name came out of his mouth. mouth. Kaley mouth about dead.
Marvin Constant 1:10:15
Tony on teams, I’m telling you say everybody got that one person on the team that would have to that shoe like oh boy on Florida did against LSU. And he said, Well, it would have been Willie gas and say Willie would have to shoot and be like, Why? Because I know who he was. And I was trying to get it up and see you.
Unknown Speaker 1:10:35
Willie, Willie, you
Unknown Speaker 1:10:36
wouldn’t be Batman. Man. Wouldn’t it be that?
Marvin Constant 1:10:41
According to Antonio
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Antonio Langham 1:10:45
he wouldn’t, he wouldn’t. He would have just kept the shoe and ran to the sideline. Would you say that we told you? No. He would have thrown it. He would have thrown it up again. He would have gotten in celebration. He would have
Steve Brown 1:11:03
i think i think that do a that through the shoe. He got to be in protective custody right now. down and forth.
Justin Riley 1:11:14
What about the same guy who got laid up by matchi?
Unknown Speaker 1:11:17
Justin Riley 1:11:18
Unknown Speaker 1:11:20
why not buddy. He was toast most of the night.
Steve Brown 1:11:24
I tell you, I’ll tell you what, though. The dude that got hit by Nick, he should have got up and threw a shoe.
Unknown Speaker 1:11:35
Went to Laughlin, we hope
Unknown Speaker 1:11:39
you didn’t come back. You didn’t play demo?
Unknown Speaker 1:11:43
I wouldn’t want to know.
Justin Riley 1:11:46
But back to my question, though. After y’all won an SEC championship. What was the main message that Stallings won Jada get coming out of off of that big win, and then going into New Orleans.
Unknown Speaker 1:11:59
I don’t really think I think I’ll miss it started way back.
Unknown Speaker 1:12:04
And the year before,
Unknown Speaker 1:12:06
when the team went 11 to one. And
Unknown Speaker 1:12:11
was we had
Unknown Speaker 1:12:13
that last Florida. Once we had that last Florida and I think right after that, I mean, we went on the road. And he just bawling and believe then you brought in the next freshman class you’re brought in. And basically, the only thing that happened was the guys that came in and our freshmen class was put in places we’re about to lay off and we just went from there. I mean, we just plugged into players that needed to be plugged in. And the main thing was our goal at the beginning of the year was
Unknown Speaker 1:12:47
we need to win a championship.
Unknown Speaker 1:12:51
And we enjoyed playing with each other and anytime you have a team that enjoys playing with each other good things about to happen and that’s what happened with that team.
Antonio Langham 1:13:04
Downtown downtown let me ask you this question that’s a serious question man. When you when you when I was coming to Bama even when you and I were in Baltimore together when we we battled we battled. I was our job is our job was your job was to get over 100 yards receiving against me my job was to keep you on the 100 yards right? I feel like in this day and time and I you can you could you could dispute it and you could stay with me on this. I don’t think that the dean I noticed the football is going more toward offense Wistia doesn’t take away from a corner being an adult now they I don’t think they mentality is to go out there and stop a guy from kitchen 100 yards and four toes down because when the hell I won’t line up on a football field. I don’t care who it is. And allow this man to give me 200 plus yards and photos now. I just don’t think I don’t think these kids nowadays man playing dB. have enough dog about them to line up and say man I ain’t getting to do 200 yards receiving I’m not getting this dude. for Thursday. I don’t I don’t is not there anymore, man and I get frustrated watching football. I even get frustrated watching coach your high school football because you teach a new TV cheese and then these kids line up at that minute everybody wants to punish the game. Forget Vanessa man man a dog a man look you get a honey off on me tonight. You’ll be lucky I don’t I don’t think is their normal man.
Steve Brown 1:14:39
I agree with that. I agree with that. 100% I mean watching defenses these days man, high school college it pisses you off now I will say this even though this this was recorded. I’m gonna jump in Curtis I apologize for being good you do let me tell you something, man. I would say this. Have you seen this Guys malikai more. Yeah, he actually plays with that dog mentality. Another one, Patrick Patrick Sartain, he plays with the two men. I mean, he’s gotten burned a little bit, but every once in a while, but it but the thing is man, when he does get burned, he is usually draped all over the receiver. I do the best. They like it is what it is.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:29
Well, I like like Antonio said, we don’t have we don’t have defensive backs, that we’re like, playing Mark McMillan, Sam Shay, these guys are physically, you know what I mean? And they and they wanted to let you know they were physical. You know what I mean? These guys, you know, like, they just want to, you know, they gotta make a play on them. They want to help him up. You know what I mean? We come from them cloth man, we used to be ready. You know what I mean? And we used to want to compete every day in practice. You know what I’m saying? And then it ran and it transferred over to the game. A man that the
Steve Brown 1:16:09
DB is unlike man, a like y’all used to make people want to receive us want to fight? Well, those are the type of DVDs I was used to watching Bama. Y’all will make people want to fight. Y’all will have them so frustrated. They want to fight and then I mean, now is like, Man, it’s like, like getting off the ball easier. And all in there. primative how scared they’re playing. And I know y’all had never seen this play. I think I think it was third and probably a couple of feet from the goal. And and in the DB. He was so scared of the receiver getting off the floor. He’s reaching over Put your hands on it.
Unknown Speaker 1:16:55
Yeah, right. Yeah,
Steve Brown 1:16:56
show me call outside. I’m like, What are you doing, bro? You see, I mean, I don’t understand the man.
Antonio Langham 1:17:04
here’s the here’s the problem. I mean, here’s the problem though. Everybody is so worried about giving up the deep ball. That they’re protecting deep, but they like I give up 200 yards of receiving to a guy all underneath Brad but you’re not gonna beat me beat. Forget that football is football and you cannot play the game of football as a defensive back and think that you’re not gonna get hit up. You’re gonna get hit up at some point in the game. Turkey got started Brian Kirby brown works too hard for me to say that I’m just gonna SHUT CURTIS brown down the whole game. But what Curtis brown going nowhere. I mean his shit all day long. Every time we line up, we edit. We fight and we edit. But here’s the problem everybody secondary guys. And I’m saying is because I watch this Oh my God, look i’d have gotten frustrated with is like, what one thing to drive me crazy is this. BBs made 10 yards away from a receiver when the ball is thrown in a receiver drops the ball. And then everybody wants to get an incomplete signal you would tell your man, right. Why are they even doing that high school kids drop a pass, they join us for what you would 10 yards away, he kissed a ball. He made a move on you as a touchdown man, everybody else runs so fast now that nobody wants to play technique. I tell you for so long. But technique I’ll keep you in the Indigo keep you in the league a long, long time. But
Marvin Constant 1:18:28
let me cut you off though. Tony, let me ask you this, though. What role does officiating played because it seemed like it’s a whole lot more passive. He barely touching receiver now.
Antonio Langham 1:18:38
But that’s because that’s because the game is going so much often. But here’s the thing. You got some officials that will let it go. So you can’t just change your game and automatically say, I’m, again solve this because you don’t know how to go and call the game, how to play through play. comments.
Steve Brown 1:18:58
You know what, when I’m telling you what I’m what I’m taking from this is man, at least try to take your opponent to play at least I mean, I mean, I mean, in other words, if if he beat you, he beat you, but at least all other players make the quarterback look away from all over.
Unknown Speaker 1:19:17
Right at the end of the day. At the end of the day as a defensive back you have to have a short term memory. I had it every time if you beat me And remember, then I tell you that point blank, I don’t remember that. You have to have a short term memory but you have to also be able to compete.
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what I see from a lot of DBS now is they’re not willing to compete. If the balls in the air
Stephen M. Smith 1:19:43
we were told,
Unknown Speaker 1:19:45
and Antonio can attest that we were taught, we got just as much right to the ball that receiver does. Right. So when you ran a go round, in a deep, I’m gonna become the receiver you’re not you’re not gonna even get it That ball is mine. And that’s the mentality that these guys don’t care.
Antonio Langham 1:20:05
They don’t know all I’m saying is man, if I plan to vontae Smith whoever it is man, Lana, my man is you would not go give me 200 plus receive me your info turns down in a win where like, I’ll start a fight with you and we both get addicted before I give you that opportunity. Exactly to do me and like that. But but y’all know
Marvin Constant 1:20:25
what it is though? We will raise different than his generation y’all know what I’m about to say? How many y’all got into a fight you mama tell you but not coming to his house until you see a court? Right? So we know you bet a weird at all. Man, I was raised. I bet.
Unknown Speaker 1:20:49
If I got my behind kid, my dad literally say Okay, so we’re gonna go talk to their parents.
Marvin Constant 1:20:57
My mom and dad would go on for that.
Steve Brown 1:21:16
Like that, but how can I learn anything? Me and my dad go down there to fight the boy and he beat both is is that
Unknown Speaker 1:21:29
didn’t go down at a fight when we went down at a talk.
Marvin Constant 1:21:33
My mom was famous she said on Companies House crime, whatever you cried about you better go outside and have it or fix wouldn’t walk into now crime.
Steve Brown 1:21:45
That doesn’t really apply to you. You say she said don’t come in the house. But if I stayed in the trailer
Justin Riley 1:22:08
The awesome thing is some of that man tality has dude because coaches aren’t really allowed to be what they used to be like back in your day. coaches are taught to be a little bit softer, not to get in your face, you know, not to be confrontational, and basically do what made us you know, men.
Steve Brown 1:22:24
You mean the pink golden. You mean the pink gold as coaches have been taught to be like gold as I pay goes like that don’t
Justin Riley 1:22:31
get in a personal space.
Steve Brown 1:22:32
Okay, so Antonio, let me ask you and Curtis, let me ask you this. Is it? Is it true? You I can ask you to Marvin, is it true that the player develops the mentality and the attitude of his coach? If the coach is rowdy, and he’s aggressive, then try to be just like him on the field.
Marvin Constant 1:23:00
You don’t want to disappoint him. You know what he is personally, you know, his standard. So you don’t want to disappoint this then I had the as a coach. I knew Jeff Rousey was alive when and I was probably more alive than Jeff. So we got along great. A lot of times you just don’t want to disappoint that person and you know them as a person. So you know the personality. Well, you know what,
Steve Brown 1:23:21
I personally think that Pete golden. I don’t think he hollers at the players, I think I mean, you can tell how they play. Okay, guys, we’re gonna run it, we don’t do a stunt and then we go to DBS, just 14 yards off, you mean a big catch the ball, just touch him and kind of take him down gently and we go back to the hole. That to me, instead of saying, Look, don’t let them catch nothing. blossom, but somebody in the mouth didn’t get a penalty. A facemask just because let them know
Marvin Constant 1:23:50
what I’m saying. See what you got understand some no see, I know resting Curtis. Willie Antonio can attest to this. When we play. It was a different coaching mentality. I can remember coaches jacking players up. I can remember players jacking coaches up. It was like a
Unknown Speaker 1:24:08
no yeah, that type of game stuff going on.
Unknown Speaker 1:24:16
It was real stuff, man. It was real. And but look, that’s what they’re missing nowadays. Man. You know what I mean? Like? I think Nick will still get in your face. Right? Yeah, but I think a lot of these kids are born up to Nick. Unfortunately, knowing that if Nick do anything wrong, he’s gonna be put on a microscope. You know what I mean?
Steve Brown 1:24:39
But you know what, man? Those two man players are definitely not like y’all used to be. You know why? Because they got options. That’s why the transfer portal is so full. Yeah. Let me just transfer. Yep. They’ve given these players too many options. I don’t like that.
Antonio Langham 1:24:59
I don’t know. Don’t
Justin Riley 1:25:01
college free agents destroying it
Unknown Speaker 1:25:04
this morning? I was
Marvin Constant 1:25:09
watching from Tonio
Unknown Speaker 1:25:13
mapley when you come in and he’s supposed to be a highly touted recruit and the first time you don’t feel you backed up you backing up six all americans
Unknown Speaker 1:25:25
i mean what what you’re
Unknown Speaker 1:25:27
gonna do you either gonna man up get better or not
Antonio Langham 1:25:32
that’s your that’s your policy what you’re saying right now just same mentality the kids have now they walk in and they see what’s in front of them and then all of a sudden they don’t want to fight no more they don’t want to compete they don’t know what it is to be at the bottom of a fight their way back up to the top when you walk when you walk when you walk over here, you everybody
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Unknown Speaker 1:26:01
I’m not gonna have you yelling at me like that. Raise your voice like I’m your child. I’m not
Antonio Langham 1:26:05
going on over social media near people gonna be sitting with a gas and said he wish he had that transfer portal. That’s the problem with him now. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:26:12
I’ll tell you this. I’m gonna tell you this, sir. I’m gonna tell you this right to your face, man.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:18
I’m not having it. I know.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:22
I can eat it.
Steve Brown 1:26:24
I you know something? CB
Unknown Speaker 1:26:28
CB can attest to this. I competed every day.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:31
I like to talk trash.
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I talk trash. I beat
Unknown Speaker 1:26:35
some ants exhausted. But Antonio langem. After you say what you said, as far as my shoes go.
Unknown Speaker 1:26:41
I’m not thinking about you. You’re the man.
Marvin Constant 1:26:47
See, here’s the thing about Well, yeah, make some valid points that transfer Porter make a lot of people switch up. So you know, they rate the most famous quotes in alabama football. He
Justin Riley 1:26:56
knows who’s going.
Marvin Constant 1:26:57
I have the third most famous quote and I got in so much trouble for this quote reporter asked me about Travis care all American. And you see my quote, I said, you know whether travels was here or not, I plan on starting anyway, it hurt to lose, but it is what it is. I got called a duboce. Office for that. He was like, he was not very happy about that. But I say that to say a lot of these kids don’t want to compete. I don’t care if there’s 10 Americans in front of me,
Steve Brown 1:27:23
I know nothing about it.
Justin Riley 1:27:25
thing about it is they’re not being taught to compete anymore. They got this message that, oh, if you got a little bit of adversity in front of you hop on out and go into the transfer portal. They’re not being taught to sit there and work your tail off and
Steve Brown 1:27:39
no, no, no.
Marvin Constant 1:27:42
No, hold on. Wait. Everybody asked me before I signed with Alabama. Are you sure this is what you want to do? Travis Carroll is an all American. He’s one year hit you. So you ain’t going to play much for your first few years. I said okay, yeah, keep thanking Him. And we all see what happened. I know man ever gone back knee down. And that’s the attitude that a lot of these kids don’t have. I could have easily went to school. But that wouldn’t have been me. And that’s the thing that a lot of these kids they don’t want the competition. Oh,
Steve Brown 1:28:12
you know, something on it.
Justin Riley 1:28:15
They’d rather be Instagram famous.
Steve Brown 1:28:17
But yet but Jessen? You know what? This is why I respect Matt Jones so much. He came in. He had he had Jalen in front of them. Yeah. And he fought and fought and waited his turn. And he continued to fight. Look at him now. You can you can’t do them but you can’t respect him. You can’t do nothing but respect. Mike Jones fan just because he took advantage he learned from Jalen and whoever else was in front of him and look at him now.
Justin Riley 1:28:50
And look at Jalen hertz same thing to bail. But instead he sat there he actually got better improved his craft got Oklahoma balled out Heisman finalists now he took a starting job for the Philadelphia Eagles
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look man i believe i evil blown man
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Justin Riley 1:29:19
i speaking positive man but he earned that spot because of being willing to compete been willing to wait his turn and learn and humble himself. And it’s paying dividends form.
Steve Brown 1:29:33
To me, to me this transfer portal to me this transfer portal is is to me is sending a message for I mean, sending a message to the key is to pretty much quit if things are not going your way quit and the biggest disappointment in Alabama history to me a quarterback who was this highly touted guy that uh, came out of California and they said he’s gonna be the MC started out with them and he quit.
Unknown Speaker 1:29:59
Beat him out.
Steve Brown 1:30:01
Look but not only do they transform Alabama and went somewhere else,
Justin Riley 1:30:05
he went to Arizona state they went to USF and now I don’t know what he’s doing. Yeah.
Marvin Constant 1:30:17
But you know, this generation has been said to be a generation of entitlement and and it goes back to that same thing they feel entitled they don’t want to work for what they get. You know, you got to be prepared to work you know, the greatest of the great to work the Walter Payton’s work the Michael Jordan’s work. Nothing’s gonna happen because you show up and please
Unknown Speaker 1:30:39
invite Michael Jackson’s bird
Unknown Speaker 1:30:40
but as a player as a player, when you go to the University of Alabama you expect to have to work you expect to be against the best because of you started out with ma’am you can start anywhere in the country. That’s just my consensus on
Steve Brown 1:31:00
Hold on You said you go you gotta expect the work What have you would like me to just move around you know?
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Well, don’t say that.
Unknown Speaker 1:31:21
I’m just saying no but
Unknown Speaker 1:31:23
but when you come Alabama’s father Napoli.
Marvin Constant 1:31:31
Well, he got he
Unknown Speaker 1:31:37
ran out of minutes.
Marvin Constant 1:31:40
And got too close to him seemed to distract.
Antonio Langham 1:31:46
You know, man, you know, man, I went with what what the problem is now is every key has an opportunity. When he goes to a university or an official visit, he has an opportunity to talk to the coaches, he’s gonna be he’s gonna use the veto. There’s two positions we could possibly play you in, then you’re given an opportunity to examine the depth chart. So you know what’s coming with, you know what you’re dealing with, when you step on that university, you had the chance to visit you had the chance to talk to coaches, and they get there and what drives me crazy when they leave, they want a dog every coach is there. He didn’t do this for me. He didn’t do that. Now, look at look at the man in the mirror. You know what the depth chart look like before you get this? And then this other thing that drives me crazy. What do they do when they transfer usually do what they transfer down to division and go from? They go down to a smaller division where they walk right into the door and the coaching they’re gonna baby and they don’t get married and they won’t. Don’t tell me you think I want to leave Alabama overnight or another university to go down a level and play at another school? Wow.
Steve Brown 1:32:53
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you want to leave Auburn, you would definitely want to leave.
Marvin Constant 1:32:58
You know what’s gonna be interesting, though, um, y’all saw last week the ECA signed a waiver that they can transfer to any school in the country and don’t have to sit out now.
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Steve Brown 1:33:10
that’s that’s bad man. That’s, to me. That’s, to me. That’s bad for football long term. Because let’s, let’s say, Man, you’re not doing what you’re supposed to do. On the practice field, the weight room or conditioning and the coach get on you, you get mad now you transferred to another school. I mean, it’s me is raising is raising people who are irresponsible, they don’t want to be held accountable for what they’re doing. So I mean, how can you raise a man like that he didn’t want to be held accountable for anything. So, to me, it sounds like the NCAA is pretty much sitting me setting these young men up for long term failure in life, because they don’t want to be held accountable for anything. And that’s bad.
Unknown Speaker 1:33:55
Yeah, the NCAA along with some of these young kids coaches coming out of high school, you know, afraid to to tell these kids No, or pray to tell these kids you know, bless jazz, you know what I mean, right? We go just give him nothing. It got to be earned. You know what I mean? They were not they’re not being told that
Steve Brown 1:34:16
way. It seems like to me now, man. He is coming out of foot coming out of high school. Now, the only requirement now he’s got to be fast. Other than that, you know, you ain’t gotta have discipline. You ain’t gotta have I just learned coordination, no technique, you just got to be fast.
Marvin Constant 1:34:33
But you know, what else what else contribute to this theme? Instagram, they got all these followers stroking egos, right. They already feel like they demand before they even get to school because they got you know, 50 100,000 people following them on Instagram,
Unknown Speaker 1:34:45
and therefore Rude Awakening, because when they show up, it’s about five or 10 other players just as just as good as they are at the same position. Yeah.
Antonio Langham 1:34:56
I think they need to go back to the old school were recruited and these coaches actually go out there and sit in football stadium and watch the kid, you could get a recruiting service all day to break down the tape. And when they break down the tape most of the time while you’re gonna see what they good, you’re never gonna shoot a bad pause, man. But if you are coaching you go sit in that stadium back, when we all were being recruited out coaches came and said in the stadium, and they watch football, and they told you then what you were getting man, now you go to these recruiting services, and they make it look good. And I hate these thoughts. 543 I hate them. Now. They make
Steve Brown 1:35:33
me and they beat me to it. And some, I don’t like the fact like when I was coaching high school football, they would let the parents make a highlight reel for the kids. I’m like, man, so you mean to tell me yo yo dad plays and you know, he’s trying to sell his beat. Right?
Justin Riley 1:35:56
I’ll do you one better. These kids don’t need to have these national press conferences on TV. They go back, I hate it. I hate the days that maybe your local paper took a picture that none of this national television, treating them like they’re already in the NFL. That’s where the leeches are messing up. These kids that like their pros before they even step on the field.
Antonio Langham 1:36:21
And just not agree because these kids sit around and you say they’re making a movie where they want it where they set up they announcement thing. And then the top ones in ESPN 150, the top five. This is this is actual signing day early signing period. And this is actual signing day. And they don’t ask you a signing day everybody decide the top five to decide while I’m away two weeks from now, before I make my decision. Draft this up is to go back and say look, if you are eligible, you ought to sign on early signing period or in February when you’re supposed to and if you don’t then you lose out on your scholarships man because we’re now we’re making the kids feel like they’re getting ready to go to the NFL by the way we were we allow them to do national signing day Why will they want everybody wants to make a commitment to who they going to make want to make it they may make it a movie, man and when you get a man don’t become nothing man. They all of a sudden he got old enough but they did look.
Steve Brown 1:37:19
I know a lot. I remember. I think I remember I remember when being Davis got signed it had to be like 15 years ago on
Unknown Speaker 1:37:32
the whole I mean it’s like the whole like, I mean down and going on air all types of balloons and like
Steve Brown 1:37:41
look at it. I mean I can’t I don’t know where what am I yeah, I think I’m hating on being but I’m sorry. I mean, it’s dude. Oh, nothing can make me want to cry.
Unknown Speaker 1:37:57
You back What are we saying? No. To me it goes all the way back to the participation trophies.
Justin Riley 1:38:02
Yep, you’re right.
Unknown Speaker 1:38:04
It literally you didn’t get a trophy unless you earned
Unknown Speaker 1:38:08
Yeah. Now did
Unknown Speaker 1:38:12
you feel Oh, we given everybody trophies
Justin Riley 1:38:15
that the kids don’t know how to do
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Steve Brown 1:38:23
That when I played Little League football, apparently Something had to have been wrong with our whole team when we just got a candlelit everybody shirt.
Antonio Langham 1:38:50
No man other thing that we’re losing from this two weeks, we’re losing the team concept. You lose a football game, especially in high school, you lose a football game, a playoff game. And if it’s on the road, the first thing every kid on the team comes to the coaches like coach, I’m gonna run back with my parents. So now they’re going to get in the car with their parents and then Mama’s go get over the backseat with him. He’s gonna lay his head on my my all the way home. Like he’s really that hurt. Is that means that must say you may get back on the bus with the same guy that you wrote down with, that you fall within a ride back with him. And then
Steve Brown 1:39:28
you show it right because I know we’ll talk when I was coaching a little league football. I did it from 789 10 1112. And one thing I did teach my kids I told the parents have fun. I don’t care if we win, lose or draw. If we all wrapped to the game together on this band. We rounded back y’all will pick up your kids at a designated place where where you know where by pick your kids up. That’s where they’re gonna be dropping off. Right, right, right. It ain’t gonna be no run back when mom and dad is in it because it’s given the Kids so much on just like like big like big, like we own stuff, you know and this is killing that the concept of team. Nothing’s like one of my coaches used to
Marvin Constant 1:40:11
say get the tittie out there boy mouth. Yep,
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But I like boobage
Marvin Constant 1:40:24
who knows right now?
Unknown Speaker 1:40:30
right uh but you
Steve Brown 1:40:34
know so so Bama plays on the first right?
Justin Riley 1:40:37
Yeah that three o’clock next
Steve Brown 1:40:41
Ronnie will begin in the chick
Unknown Speaker 1:40:46
I just hope we can go ahead and make these adjustments defensively. I see us I see
Justin Riley 1:40:54
what adjustments Do we need to make between now and next?
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Steve Brown 1:40:59
I’m with you, Marvin. Marvin. Good.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:04
I’m not gonna go that far. What? But we need we need to make adjustments on a defensive line. Second, cb
Marvin Constant 1:41:14
he figured it out by game 12 cb What is it ain’t going change. Man.
Unknown Speaker 1:41:24
Now granted, we’re not going out.
Steve Brown 1:41:26
I was a really big fan of yours you. Coach man.
Justin Riley 1:41:34
not random. We’re not gonna be playing an offense at the level we face this past week. But what do we do? Yeah. What do we need to do against Notre Dame to be successful to prevent a book from having a historic day? Which we have a habit of making quarterbacks look good no matter who they are.
Steve Brown 1:41:51
But the first child is strong and I’m looking to Antonio Langer. You want to say it you see it in your eyes? You want to say get rid of it. You want to say Go ahead, say say it
Antonio Langham 1:42:05
when he’s probably gonna be moved after the season.
Unknown Speaker 1:42:08
The only reason he hasn’t
Antonio Langham 1:42:10
No, he’s not gonna be moved before the game. That won’t happen before the game. Yeah, that would that would not that would never happen before the game. He can’t move. He can’t he can’t play where he hasn’t done anything along the lines of length giving this a B has been removed. So that’s not gonna happen before the game. Now you won’t get Charlie strong because Charlie strong would not be moved into that position until next year because Charlie Charlie progress they’re getting a buyout. So he takes a job and he’s got to be put up on the contract like Butch Jones was and then he’s
Marvin Constant 1:42:42
the guy at Tommy got to Biles currently with Texas and us
Antonio Langham 1:42:47
my point so long as he doesn’t analysts he’s really not taking any money if it gets his bow that’s why but don’t never he was only thing he wasn’t was an analyst because he’s if he if he does it then his bow becomes prorated because of whatever the university is paying. Oh, that’s why Charlie strong is where he’s at now Charlie’s probably happened Pete golden in the in the in the film room and all that but when it comes to the fear, Charlie strong can’t be a part of that. Because of the fact that he just considered a handle is now he won’t be he won’t be moved. He won’t even be moved but what what needs to happen is he needs a game plan needs to be made between Clemson and Ohio State on what you’re going to. Because let’s be realistic Notre Dame. Every time they get into playoff or the championship game they get beat by fifth. Yeah, bam, bam, bam. I hate them. I hate 35 by halftime all day today.
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we got our physical real physical off the rip,
Steve Brown 1:43:42
right. Oh, and what is a defect?
Unknown Speaker 1:43:46
all phases are game day week. I’m telling you they week. They don’t play anybody man. It’s one of the players they’ll have a catfish
Marvin Constant 1:43:53
Justin Riley 1:44:04
I think that Taylor’s girlfriends live with Steve now
Antonio Langham 1:44:15
but you know the biggest problem for Pete golden right now he is opposite. So good is usually the other way around. is usually the defense that’s really good. And the offense is told just do enough not to lose the game. Mm hmm. But now opposites so high power that P golden is being told. Just call it enough. put us in just just good enough position so we don’t lose the game and that’s what he’s been told this evening. And we we had an offense that wasn’t his high powered as I was it, DMP golden mentality product. We had to be forced to be a different man.
Marvin Constant 1:44:55
If we didn’t have offers we’d be going to the Music City bowl.
Antonio Langham 1:45:00
We are so high power toll call the deepest depths well enough so we don’t lose the game we just go for it, man.
Steve Brown 1:45:09
But the problem is Antonia you a defensive guy? You know you see it, bro? I know you see it? The thing is man, okay call the plays, but the plays some of the plays he’s calling are stupid plays they make no sense. It’s like It’s like some of the plays he’s calling the coverages It ain’t even computer defense at all. He don’t even have them disguising coverages, bro, they just they
Antonio Langham 1:45:35
were wherever they were, they gave this guy that right now, if you listen to someone in the post conference, the postgame conference when Nick Saban What does he say? Well, yeah, we have some bad calls. But a lot of times we will lined up wrong.
Justin Riley 1:45:51
Why hasn’t a big corrected it’s been two years of Hey, Gold’s been there. It’s the same thing game after game. How’s that not corrected? We
Antonio Langham 1:45:59
you got to understand something now you have a bunch of true freshman or redshirt freshmen in that plan right now. They miss him. They miss the spring, and they miss summer workout. And they have a lot of my clients to learn the dishes on listen. I play Nick that deep. His nickname we’re running right now is pretty much what we ran a Cleveland. I didn’t have none of preseason, except two days a preseason. I didn’t get comfortable and that deepest until we can have the seasons. Okay. That’s how long it takes you to get comfortable.
Justin Riley 1:46:33
But the freshmen but what about the upperclassmen, they’re still Hey,
Steve Brown 1:46:38
I understand what you’re saying. But what I’m saying and I’m, and you know what, You took the words right out of my mouth. The thing is, man, you got upperclassmen there. I’m telling you, every play that Bama has gotten burned on, they’ve been they’ve been like, obviously out of position. I mean, you could see it, I mean, people that don’t even know football, they’ll be out of position. They’d be so out of position. I don’t know I was watching he called a play. I’m on the damn field I didn’t even have to hear.
Antonio Langham 1:47:12
Stay with me right with me right here. Okay, when you are dealing with upperclassmen, when you are dealing with upperclassmen, and everybody mindset is trying to get to the pros, cb, you can attest to this with me, they start doing their own damn thing. I stopped doing the old thing, I did a deed this will be called. And they were supposed to run a stunt. And they won’t run it because they feel like they instead of them running their eggs. They feel like well, I can I can beat him if I didn’t shoot the gap right now. So when you don’t run what’s called, you’re killing the whole defense because you’re doing your own thing. I guarantee you and we went in that meeting woman said that now, we will see a lot of mistakes, the guys doing their own thing. And we
Unknown Speaker 1:47:54
want the bad thing. And that’s the bad thing about about us as fans now, right? Because we’re not in the meeting. We’re not watching film. But I guarantee you just like Antonio said, If you break down the film, you will see that a lot of the times that these guys are making mistakes, it ain’t on the coach. So
Steve Brown 1:48:17
let me say this, to me, it is on the coach because they have faith in the coach and faith that the coach knows what he’s doing and what he’s calling. They want to take it upon themselves to run that place. Now I can understand that you are world class and Tonio. I’ve heard that you just did your own thing at time, but at the same time you made the play, you made the play. So you you had to have some type of let’s say, you had to have some type of filling or whatever that okay, I play. So I’m going cheat it real quick and do my own thing. You know what, though?
Marvin Constant 1:48:58
But you know what, though, Steve, back to confidence in the defense because, you know, just to get status. We had kids. We had Kenny Smith on a few weeks ago. And that’s what me and Kenny and who’s talking about? Kenny was always doing this out there. We got a play call Kenny doing what can he do? But Kenny was doing it because Kenny also knew that I was behind him. And no matter what happened that the play was gonna be made anyway. You back.
Unknown Speaker 1:49:22
Right, right, right.
Unknown Speaker 1:49:24
communication, communication. Exactly. There’ll be times in a defensive set. The wire goes over gave us the freedom bar.
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Unknown Speaker 1:49:35
me rephrase that. He gave him the freedom to do his thing and laying on well communicated to us to know hey, I’m going to do this you need to be here.
Antonio Langham 1:49:47
But that will be an in the Florida game. There’s understanding the game that was going on in the game. I’m not I’m not just out there just just gambling and I don’t understand the Florida game. Understanding broader game I
Stephen M. Smith 1:50:00
understand what they’re
Unknown Speaker 1:50:08
doing his thing
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I liked about what you did because it got me to a championship.
Steve Brown 1:50:14
It also got me in the place that I didn’t want to be was playing in your place when you won the award that was not a good place really guessing to be a man. You know what though? The thing is I still saying I still say y’all had cohesiveness and y’all had communication. Did his own thing at least y’all new and y’all did a cover. But these garments like marble, these guys are doing their own thing because they don’t have confidence in the defense coordinating and what he’s called that’s what I believe that’s what I see. To me.
Marvin Constant 1:50:45
I’m wondering if we need to do a welfare check on widley I feel like Tonio net was treating like a stepchild
Antonio Langham 1:50:59
Willie, Willie, Willie Willie problem was this enemy they had to take three showers before we kick the football out he got other damn issue. Football man, a man take a shower before he leaves the hotel. It takes a shower so as he gets to the stadium, we go out for pregame warmup and he doesn’t get tape he go warm up he come back and take another shower they get dressed before we go kick it off
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Steve Brown 1:51:29
when he used to get off the bus musky
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Unknown Speaker 1:51:38
no I was never a sir No. My whole career I’ve just been a different person and to play with the guys that I played with that Yeah, they thought were crazy but they let me be me. And I appreciated that. See me you stop trashing me every day see be made me. Yeah, me. Thank you for a while but worse DB we
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Antonio Langham 1:52:09
when you get going back to my what I said earlier. Have you gone out front of CB? cB Do you and then that’s on you?
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Steve Brown 1:52:20
Hey, we couldn’t he couldn’t help but he was he was in the shower. Hey, he smelled like ivory as
Marvin Constant 1:52:37
a winner played in the wrong era. You need to be making Old Spice commercials.
Steve Brown 1:52:49
Hey, guys, listen, I gotta run. Oh, man, I really gotta go. I’m just I’m sick of looking at a Curtis fan. So look.
Unknown Speaker 1:53:03
You’d be able to do
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a podcast with with a brand. Hey,
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hey, man, I enjoy talking to you.
Antonio Langham 1:53:19
See you man. Gentlemen, but just want to say man before we get up we we we are being a little hard on p gold and man but until we until we be in the locker room and said we will be in a meeting room with the golden oh god and really understand what they’re doing. And if he if a lot of this is only him with guys is doing their own page
Unknown Speaker 1:53:54
now for a
Unknown Speaker 1:53:57
while now, you will get kids that will start doing their own thing. Sometimes they need to defend that you’re running it to people that run in it. Yeah.
Antonio Langham 1:54:07
All right. So we might have people on that defense. There’s not running it no matter how much he goes over there not spending. I only have so much time in a day to get my defense set and get everybody running. Now you got it if you don’t understand someone you got to come to me or you got to get in your books and study.
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Unknown Speaker 1:54:29
mommy mommy, you you should know that. We can’t we can’t point the finger at the D coordinator like that because at the end of the day, we don’t know exactly what’s going on to look at that film.
Marvin Constant 1:54:41
Oh, hold on timeout though. But at the same time we wouldn’t give it up no points like that easy though. Now we are here. You look at that Ole Miss game. You look at the Florida game you get games in the beginning of the season. Man we won’t give it up no points like that. At what point do you realize the scheme plays a major role in the amount of points you’ve given up to
Unknown Speaker 1:54:58
now Does but at the same time back to what Antonio was saying about these four or five stars they
Marvin Constant 1:55:07
cause but you know what, though, you also got to realize you have to run a defense. That’s to force your personnel, your personnel. Okay? You can’t just say I want to run a three fold but if your personnel is full three personnel, it ain’t gonna work.
Antonio Langham 1:55:23
Yeah, yeah, but you’re not with CB Yeah, and I’m gonna say it is a Yaga say like, I’m you crazy not Lizzie. Even though we got a bunch of four and five star athletes to Alabama sometime Do you guys not ready and the worst thing for any coach or D coordinator position coaches when he doesn’t have enough guys where he can create competition mm hmm when I got no he don’t have nobody right now is ready to play or can push you and right now he becomes complacent
Unknown Speaker 1:55:52
Yeah Yeah absolutely.
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I got mansplaining so
Antonio Langham 1:56:05
this because you with girl because you were a girl at home were you were you there were times when you were mentally ready You were just you cuz you will girl hunger man
Unknown Speaker 1:56:15
I’m an old child I have no sisters
Antonio Langham 1:56:21
see that Justin the true sign to come on now I know when the gas in the deal man I ride to the end of the world where but I know there were times when his mind was other places other than wages should have been and that was why he that’s why he found himself in positions where he had to he had to fight back to get his position back out to eat and last because he went mentally when now
Unknown Speaker 1:56:45
he was a hell of a football
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until he’s all out there when he’s on he’s on that that was it to come back to when he came back we came back to what we had a playable when he was owned out shoot CB DC as
Justin Riley 1:57:22
well as a few things Marvin go ahead and talk about your book what’s been doing and all the laws that’s been changing and how we can get a hold of it.
Unknown Speaker 1:57:31
Marvin Constant 1:57:32
is doing what the book does again just put on 40 plus strong sweatshirt today again if you haven’t picked up your copy you can get it at 40 plus john calm again the book is doing solid numbers is doing what it does the book pretty much sells itself you know you can always follow me on Instagram a constant 45 and you’ll see people posting their their progress. I’ve also got them posted on my website 40 plus.com that’s four zero PL us str eg calm again. Got New Year’s resolution go to Florida question calm and let us get you started
Justin Riley 1:58:04
and rightly. So I’m talking about few program notes. Next week, we’ll be back on our regular schedule. Everyone who wants to check out college football in depth analysis check out the tower Turner show Mondays at 9pm Central 10pm Eastern, the checkout the Jones roadshow show on Thursday nights to Jersey Boys talking about the NFL, the New York Giants and whatever comes to their minds. Marvin as far as next week, of course has game week. Who do you have for us what you got going on? Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:58:34
It’s gonna be interesting, though.
Justin Riley 1:58:38
That it always is. Before we go, guys, if you would give us a little some closing words. Tell us what’s next for you. If you’re on social media, tell us how we can get in touch with you. We saw you Curtis.
Unknown Speaker 1:58:52
Oh yeah. I’m on Facebook. I’m on Instagram as well.
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see brow? 40 c brown 85.
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Unknown Speaker 1:59:02
Yeah, I’m looking forward to this big game coming up on the first hopefully we can take care of business there and then you know, find ourselves in a national championship.
Marvin Constant 1:59:13
Do you still got that MySpace page?
Unknown Speaker 1:59:18
I as a matter of fact, I just shut it down yesterday.
Justin Riley 1:59:25
He’s on tik tok. Now, Marvin.
Unknown Speaker 1:59:27
Yeah, there you go.
Unknown Speaker 1:59:31
feature on Tick Tock.
Antonio Langham 1:59:33
But what are you talking about that I am so lost? Oh, you were by No, it was just and I will say this though. Justin. I was up. I got the book before did a fitness app for him and Marvin, I will say this. I have started it. I wasn’t gonna wait to the New Year’s resolution to start I need to start it now. So I started that man I did last week. I did a whole workout. That’s it. As a monster when you’re doing that whole workout man Yeah, like I did the diet part I’m still working over getting down the diet part man Other than that, yeah, no well, man,
Unknown Speaker 2:00:11
I sent you some
Unknown Speaker 2:00:12
options for you did you did you
Antonio Langham 2:00:14
did you did you did and I’m working on I promise you I am I’m trying to get there man you could find me as silica Go man we see a coach a basketball we play a game Monday for the first time in a couple of weeks. So
Unknown Speaker 2:00:32
you know it’s nothing wrong with
Antonio Langham 2:00:34
it but you know, man, I have ccba in a minute, sir. Good to see him man. But does democracy Be willing man is good to talk to God man. See? A man a lot of love for y’all man. Love you guys.
Unknown Speaker 2:00:48
Thank you, brother.
Justin Riley 2:00:50
Willie, what’s going on with you next brother? And are you on social media at all? Yeah, I’m
Unknown Speaker 2:00:55
on Facebook. That’s the only place I am. I’m on Facebook. With a guest and huh? Wonder lager?
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Unknown Speaker 2:01:04
yeah, sorry. I’m on Facebook. Get in touch. We’ll
Unknown Speaker 2:01:10
it will it’s free a store will it don’t even have Wi Fi in his house. So how do you survive? He’s got
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will it does? Will it do a Dallas? Alabama? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 2:01:52
Hello, what’s your book, man? Yeah, which man?
Justin Riley 2:01:57
Thank you. Thank you guys for coming home. Yeah, we enjoyed it, man. All right. I’ll send everybody out. Y’all have a safe weekend. And Roll Tide roll.
Unknown Speaker 2:02:09
Happy Holidays guys.
Antonio Langham 2:02:10
makers y’all guys.
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