Episode #377: Alabama Walk-On Legends Waine Bacon & Hamid Haqq | Riley & Constant

In this episode, the gang celebrates the careers of the unsung heroes, the walk-ons. Hamid Haqq and Waine Bacon tell us their stories.

Contributors
Justin Riley – @justinriley7
Marvin Constant – @constant451
Steve Brown – @comicstevebrown
Stephen M. Smith – @CoachingMSmith

Transcript

Justin Riley 0:17
Not only one thing that Raleigh constant brown and Smith show presented by the sports cast have a yet please subscribe on all of our channels YouTube, Periscope, iTunes and now Spotify. If you’re on YouTube, hit like and subscribe if you’re on iTunes. Leave us a rating and review. Also visit a summer sports cast dotnet for all of our up to date sports news if you have iPhone, download our new app. This episode is brought to you by Ken Darby driven real estate solutions, LLC. Their local professional homebuyers that pay cash for houses any condition, price range or location. Yes, you can sell your home fast and relieve your stress to regain peace of mind. Visit Ken and his team at www. Driven real estate solutions.com I’m your host over the hill powerlifter in 2003 demographic Justin Riley with me as always as the man I’m a legend to time author. Man, you got a man is that man Marvin constant.

Marvin Constant 1:22
Justin. It’s a pleasure as always, man. This is gonna be a good one night. You know Steve is late as usual. So that,

Justin Riley 1:33
you know 15 minutes after the hour is early for him.

Marvin Constant 1:38
Well, we got one Steve late and he just got a fresh haircut. So he’s recognizable right now.

Justin Riley 1:46
Mr. Steven Smith, a touchdown Alabama magazine and the man who drives the ratings for the Paul finebaum show. Welcome in. Man,

Unknown Speaker 1:55
don’t Don’t do this to me right now.

Marvin Constant 2:01
Hey, just gotta take it high school yearbook photos. All right.

Justin Riley 2:16
So tonight is very special. Because we get to showcase the guys who worked, who I believe in my mind and worked the hardest to get to where they had to go and achieve their dream. We are showcasing the wall cones Marv and I want you to tell the folks in the audience who we have on tonight.

Marvin Constant 2:34
Well, the first fella I’m not really gonna call him a walk on even though he walked on it Alabama, because he was heavily recruited out of high school. He just wanted to be a member to tie. So ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, former Indianapolis Colts. Mr. Wayne, thank you.

Unknown Speaker 2:53
Hey everybody, How y’all doing man? It’s my pleasure.

Marvin Constant 2:58
And then our next

Unknown Speaker 2:59
guest is a beast.

Marvin Constant 3:02
Our next guest I don’t even know how to introduce this fella right now with all that’s going on in the world with COVID anybody who works in the healthcare industry is a hero to all of us. Ladies and gentlemen, play wide receiver at the University of Alabama. Mr. ham hock I see. Oh, man, we

Justin Riley 3:27
got a lecture cloud has made a appearance. Oh

Unknown Speaker 3:34
that’s a good joke.

Justin Riley 3:38
What do you got going?

On? finally have you Oh man, what’s going on with you? Man just

Unknown Speaker 3:52
taking the dump right man I told him. He told me not to tell you but I am here for him. All right.

Marvin Constant 4:01
Did you take to the barbershop he got a fresh cut. I’m ready.

Unknown Speaker 4:08
All right.

Justin Riley 4:09
What do you think about this recruiting class? lecture class?

Unknown Speaker 4:12
Where think they were really good, but they wouldn’t be as good as my written plan. Yeah, play. Saving 30 1960 was me. And we got a we won a championship. One game ASCO. 37.

Justin Riley 4:37
So what happened to that man? How was the NFL for you?

Unknown Speaker 4:41
Well, I get one Super Bowl. And we ran out of rings. So when they gave me a necklace, I gave

Justin Riley 4:50
you a necklace. necklace was a man diamonds or gold?

Unknown Speaker 4:54
No, no, it was it was a candy necklace. Yeah.

Justin Riley 4:57
Oh, okay. Okay, okay. That’s what So that’s what’s up.

Unknown Speaker 5:02
Yeah. All right. Okay. So yeah, go ahead and jump in whenever.

Unknown Speaker 5:09
Yep. All right. Come on,

Unknown Speaker 5:12
boy, sweat shirt. Tonight.

Justin Riley 5:20
But when we go on your Instagram, it’s a different story. So we thought from your former teammates on here to kind of explain that. And if it happened back in that day, too. You got

Marvin Constant 5:29
to move the product. We got to move products. And

Unknown Speaker 5:33
Lauren was always the one in the club in the bar taking a shirt off my back. You

Justin Riley 5:49
never know.

Marvin Constant 5:54
With Roberto McBride dem three, right? Yeah,

Justin Riley 5:56
boom. And you had nothing to do with it at all.

Unknown Speaker 5:59
Nothing.

Justin Riley 6:00
You weren’t the highlands legend. Right.

Marvin Constant 6:04
What are you talking about here? I mean, I earned my stripes. But you know, that’s the whole difference.

Justin Riley 6:13
Hey, before we jump into things hammers got to tend to some surgery. Is that right? hammered?

Unknown Speaker 6:21
Yep,

Unknown Speaker 6:22
he’s right here. One second, please. All right.

Unknown Speaker 6:29
Ace Ventura pet.

Justin Riley 6:32
Chicago indie

Unknown Speaker 6:39
operation.

Justin Riley 6:44
We know you bought the tenets of business in a surgery. So we’ll see you in a few minutes, right.

Unknown Speaker 6:50
Yeah, guys. So I’ll be popping in and out. I just want to tell you all that I’m grateful to be on this show and watching you guys for a little while. Right?

Steve Brown 6:58
You. You’ve been watching this show.

Unknown Speaker 7:01
Yes, sir.

Unknown Speaker 7:05
watch the show.

Unknown Speaker 7:08
Cable access channel.

Unknown Speaker 7:12
I’m curious what

Marvin Constant 7:13
kind of surgery Are you going to? Alright, so

Unknown Speaker 7:15
it’s a fracture in the spine, a compression fracture, right. So we’re going in with two spine Jacks to basically crank the input back up and put cement in behind it. So these right here, they go in transpedicular. Then we just crank it up to think like a car jack. Except in a vertebral body titanium summit. So

Unknown Speaker 7:40
are you leading the surgery?

Unknown Speaker 7:42
No. So there’s other people here like oh, my God, Paul.

Unknown Speaker 7:48
Was that way? Why he was like

Unknown Speaker 7:58
wait, wait, wait. Oh, wait. No, wait. Wait. So this is 1999

Unknown Speaker 8:16
I’m glad to see you are where you are.

Unknown Speaker 8:20
Yeah, you need to come visit, man. is what you need to do.

Unknown Speaker 8:24
Anytime. Our job is even cut my traveling. I can’t even get on nobody’s airplane yet.

Steve Brown 8:29
Well, well. Well. No, I can’t look. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you’re doing all that? Are y’all y’all y’all hiring? Yeah, I’m trying. I’m gonna try. I want to try something new.

Unknown Speaker 8:39
All right. Hey, man. Don’t get stressed out.

Unknown Speaker 8:44
Flex.

Unknown Speaker 8:46
That’s okay. Marvin flexes all the time for it.

Marvin Constant 8:50
But I ain’t doing it with nobody back opening and putting a jacket now like I can’t

Steve Brown 9:01
wait. The backside of my day, man. So

Unknown Speaker 9:07
you got to actually fix this.

Unknown Speaker 9:09
Yeah.

Steve Brown 9:10
Oh, I thought he was having sex. I didn’t know I

Justin Riley 9:15
didn’t know we’re not talking about his backpage account.

Unknown Speaker 9:18
He he had worked.

Unknown Speaker 9:31
Surgery and being right back.

Steve Brown 9:38
Amen. Hey, Justin, he did not he said he said he gonna go jump right in it real quick.

Justin Riley 9:54
Hey, man, COVID-19 guys doing all kinds of things that aren’t $1 so

Before we jump into it how the Super Bowl turn out for you guys

Steve Brown 10:08
great let me get let me get Marvin lost money again.

Marvin Constant 10:13
No I to the Tampa Bay brother. I was with the books I told you how to books defense was way better. They can’t see the defense can city

Stephen M. Smith 10:23
can we hard tar balls?

Unknown Speaker 10:26
I wish we

Steve Brown 10:27
could. Amen. Let me say this. Let me say this. This is what I saw. Um, of course, I neither one of the teams in my team, I’m sorry, I didn’t. I didn’t graduate to the to the pros. I just like alabama football. Simple as that. So I’m biased period. So I was rooting for oj Howard. But look, my thing is it the whole time? Hmm.

Stephen M. Smith 10:53
My mental injury reserved the whole time.

Steve Brown 10:55
Yeah, no. Okay. So so this is what it means for me. Um, kkc had a depleted line. The line was awful. So they had a bunch of backups. So of course, that’s got 10 I don’t I’m not taking anything away from Tampa. Tampa got a great defense. Not only that, to me, and I think to a whole lot of people and Marvin, you probably denied I think the the Kansas City defense was playing against Tom Brady and the refs the whole firsthand.

Unknown Speaker 11:31
addicts disagree. Yeah, I’m gonna say this. There was one blatantly bad call. It was. Mike Evans. That’s why I’m saying I disagree. I disagree. But you know what, though, that that one Pastor

Unknown Speaker 11:53
Mike Evans, that was called on it was called I can’t think of his name right now. But you

Marvin Constant 11:59
know what it all boils down to the Tampa Bay took on the personality of Tom Brady. I’ll tell you one incidents that summed it all up. When Tyron Matthew got in Tom Brady face and said whatever he said you saw ready to go run him down. That net let you knew right there, that Tampa Bay and Tom Brady and then come play? like

Unknown Speaker 12:24
another thing?

Steve Brown 12:26
And let me say this, I think personally, I think I think Tyron Manson needs to stop. He shouldn’t do anything. And he shouldn’t say anything and high profile games. Because every time he did some he got exposed years ago, bam, exposing and then Tom Brady just kept on it just kept on it. Shut up and play football. I played

Unknown Speaker 12:49
against Tom Brady before and when you win, it’s like he and Peyton Manning are two ultimate competitors when you really get on them. When you call them out. When you talk trash to them, they singled you out and they’re gonna find you that whole game. So that’s exactly what Tom Brady did.

Marvin Constant 13:06
So you say you had a bunch of Tom Brady highlight films?

Unknown Speaker 13:09
No, I’m not. I’m not.

Marvin Constant 13:14
Are you smart enough not to talk trash.

Justin Riley 13:18
about those practices against Peyton Manning. Man, if you picked him off, and he was only the rest of the practice the rest of the practice.

Unknown Speaker 13:25
It was best to just bat it down.

Steve Brown 13:29
Hey, I know. Somebody was talking trash to Tom Brady. And Tom Brady says something class He’s like, and who aren’t you?

Marvin Constant 13:43
ultimate? The ultimate dagger? Yeah, what

Steve Brown 13:50
do you actually do somebody to say that to you? Now Who are you? Drop your head and walk off.

Justin Riley 14:02
Guys, if you wouldn’t mind, I promised my little girl that everybody on our show would give her a shout out. Her name’s Aiden. She’s eight years old. She thinks what we do is a pretty big deal. So if you wouldn’t mind, give a little shout out real quick for me.

Steve Brown 14:16
Oh, really, really? Big, big, big quick shout out to beautiful. I know you look nothing like your daddy. And

Justin Riley 14:26
thank God.

Steve Brown 14:28
I just I just want you to know that I’m not here by choice. I’m in a work program. So they made me do this show. So But hey, we love you. And we’re glad to be proud of your dad for for capturing criminals like myself and making them making them work. Similar to jail. So yeah, that is

Justin Riley 14:51
that’s what I was looking for. Make it

Marvin Constant 14:58
happy. Happy Tuesday from from you boy over here in Atlanta row type is that does a great job. Thank you for letting us borrow him for this hour and a half to two hours. Bar him on Tuesdays. Have a blessed one.

Justin Riley 15:15
Well, Steve’s ankle bracelet goes off in 30 minutes oh

Steve Brown 15:18
yeah yeah and eating eating. Eating let me add something else even listen the guy on here that’s wearing the glasses Let me tell you about him Don’t ever let him see you run or do anything because he’s going to evaluate you that’s what he does so when you around him just walk don’t even do nothing valuate you show even as a child he named Steven Steven Smith

Marvin Constant 15:48
in a dry erase walk in his back pocket.

Steve Brown 16:02
How old is he?

Justin Riley 16:04
He’s eight years old.

Steve Brown 16:05
Even if you don’t want to be on a blog at eight years old just be steel maybe be steel.

Justin Riley 16:12
There you go. We appreciate that guys are

Marvin Constant 16:14
really trying to get height and weight on

Justin Riley 16:24
their own in my own words Friday.

Unknown Speaker 16:26
Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 16:30
I’m using the same box is right.

Unknown Speaker 16:35
was definitely

Unknown Speaker 16:37
not to say a box bro.

Justin Riley 16:41
Man this this jump right into it. We’re here to celebrate you, Wayne and then whenever Hammond Hammond decides to come back from his surgery, so he says we’re gonna talk about him too. But a man talk to me about your path to Alabama. It’s pretty crazy coming from Maryland. How’d you become a Todd fan. And what made you decommit from Florida State and head our direction.

Unknown Speaker 17:04
I was um, what as a kid, Alabama has always grown up here. Alabama was always on TV. And I was getting into watching football because I’d like playing and I never really sat down to watch football. But when I did, Alabama was always on. So I would sit and watch them. And I always thought their brand of football is so boring. They’re not throwing it all over the place like everybody else. But they were winning. And I was like, I like winning. And you know, I had, I could have went to other other schools. But it was something about Alabama that was special to me. And I told myself as a kid that that’s where I wanted to want to go. And so I was, you know, recruited to a bunch of different schools. And my mother said, you don’t have to go for the money, you can go where you want to go, what’s gonna make you happy. And Alabama was it. And Coach coxal from Florida State was recruiting me. And he ended up leaving Florida State. And he knew Alabama was my number one choice. Well, he called my mom before it was time for me to make my decision. And he was like, you know, Hey, I just want to let you know that I’m leaving Florida State and I’m going to Alabama and that’s your kids. number one choice, and I’ll work it out for him to get the opportunity to play there. That’s really what he wants to do. And I follow through with that. And that’s how I ended up there.

Steve Brown 18:29
So a question so so how many other schools recruited you?

Unknown Speaker 18:35
I can’t even ask that. And it was a bunch. It was a you know, I started out getting recruited by small schools and then one of our old teammates, Marty Brown, he was a he played it on our rival against he played at the school that was our rival and his head coach would always send big time schools over to my school to see me which was a blessing because, you know, most coaches worry about their players but I mean, his school recruited itself in this area. And that’s how I started getting most of my look from the bigger D one schools.

Steve Brown 19:12
Wow. Well, you know, that that that recording thing could be something man because, you know, coming out I was recruited by a couple of schools for it to check a phoenix online. Yeah.

Justin Riley 19:33
St. Mary’s equestrian college. Yeah. We got a photo there behind. That’s the media gods.

Unknown Speaker 19:56
The middle of a touchdown celebration.

Justin Riley 20:00
Actually that photo is now available on our website for 999 All proceeds

Marvin Constant 20:10
I got one question How the hell were you running it smoking a black

Steve Brown 20:15
man you know?

Hey listen, so Justin I need you to my favorite man if you can’t if you ask me one of y’all can get a hold of Daniel more maybe you can do that pain for me please

Justin Riley 20:34
we’ve already started a campaign so man bah bah bah by Easter it’s gonna be in everybody’s basket.

Marvin Constant 20:42
I think that pitch will be better off we had to draw that

out some crayons and copy paper

Steve Brown 20:58
than having to recreate that for me.

Marvin Constant 21:04
We can find David Daniel

Steve Brown 21:10
Daniel Boone Okay,

Justin Riley 21:21
if you could bring that picture on the next farm Bama parents getting some national exposure

Unknown Speaker 21:26
Yeah. Yeah.

Marvin Constant 21:28
Hey, see? You see Steve Smith the guy that could tell he must be updating his Tinder profile pic even when he got an update.

Unknown Speaker 21:49
I’m gonna get you

Steve Brown 21:53
back on. Oh, man what you got going on?

Unknown Speaker 22:00
Man Man can even get a haircut and get left alone.

Unknown Speaker 22:03
Hey, man.

Steve Brown 22:03
I’m telling you. I’m telling you bro.

Justin Riley 22:07
He never gets this claim for our show. Man. You click on his show. He’s got suit and tie.

Unknown Speaker 22:11
Look good Wait

Unknown Speaker 22:21
Wait, wait, wait,

Justin Riley 22:22
wait he comes on here. He looks like the Antwan guy from in living color that

Unknown Speaker 22:30
carried that jar around

Steve Brown 22:37
he kind of clean up he found somebody bumped glasses with I believe

Justin Riley 22:59
I don’t try to be serious. So Wayne, the road of a walk on is tougher than any other What does it take to make that decision to be a walk on? Especially a historic university like Alabama? Oh my god interrupt me man like I do that every week

Marvin Constant 23:22
So why didn’t yes why he walked out of them. But in terms of athletic ability and just overall giftedness his skills more than exceeded the majority of it out. That vertical within itself.

Unknown Speaker 23:42
Is 42 and a half. Yes, sir.

Unknown Speaker 23:46
The vertical that’s the vertical Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 23:49
Man.

Steve Brown 23:52
That’s amazing. You just walk down in Alabama and get out that’s great man cuz I walked on a plenty of campuses Manning and got escorted off and got charged for trespassing.

Unknown Speaker 24:07
trespassing charges. for trespassing charges, they realized that I belong.

Marvin Constant 24:12
Yeah, but But in all seriousness, though, one of the most gifted athletes I’ve ever seen man in terms of physical abilities. Hands down.

Steve Brown 24:29
Marvin is saying you you are. You are like gifted athletically, but you couldn’t learn to play. That’s what you’re trying to say. Yeah,

Justin Riley 24:41
I think we need to dive deeper into that real quick.

Unknown Speaker 24:45
Get off man because it won’t be

Marvin Constant 24:50
ladies safety is not like you have to know a lot anyway.

Unknown Speaker 24:54
Oh,

Unknown Speaker 25:01
When you learn no no no not

Unknown Speaker 25:04
at all any kind of way you want.

Marvin Constant 25:08
cover three is cover three cover zero is cover 01 is one four is four. I mean what no matter what level you’re playing on it’s the same thing

Unknown Speaker 25:18
that’s a little more technical than that but

Marvin Constant 25:20
we’re gonna let you ride with that now it’s not like playing middle linebacker when you have to know what everybody on the defense is doing. That’s a whole different world.

Justin Riley 25:27
So what was the

Unknown Speaker 25:28
middle linebacker don’t even turn around and look back so they don’t they don’t know which middle

Unknown Speaker 25:33
linebacker you

Unknown Speaker 25:37
use still can’t turn around. See how far you can sir.

Marvin Constant 25:46
And you attack me

Justin Riley 25:51
You gave a backhanded compliment

Marvin Constant 25:55
was one of the most

Justin Riley 25:59
he was all right for safety.

Marvin Constant 26:06
athletes that I’ve ever seen appreciate

my name is not Tokyo spikes.

Tokyo Nick.

I’m a lean mean 208 pounds sir.

Steve Brown 26:37
That’s That’s incredible.

Unknown Speaker 26:40
That’s incredible. That is

Unknown Speaker 26:43
he used to be

Justin Riley 26:46
so what was it like every day in practice going against people like Trey on the flute, Freddy melons, Dre full gentlemen, and all those guys because I know they challenge you every day.

Unknown Speaker 26:56
And we had a talented group Have a seat. We had a really talented team and our receivers were they were special Friday melons to you know, Antonio Carter. He was good

Marvin Constant 27:09
about my god j Mac.

Unknown Speaker 27:12
He had speed j Mac could run route. I mean he was a tall receiver too. And he can run routes and he would run right by you if you let him. And Tonio was Antonio Carter was a technician running routes triangles loop clearly was a technician running his routes, Friday melons. I mean, he was a trick bag, like he was he could set anybody up plan plan D because you had to. It was very challenging to cover him, but they made you better. It works out for you in the end. I mean, you’re going to take your beatings against those receivers, but it worked out for you in the long run.

Stephen M. Smith 27:48
So why would you say that Freddy was Antonio brown before Antonio Brown?

Unknown Speaker 27:53
Friday, Friday was Antonio Brown, Peter ward. He was all of that. He was he was too talented.

Steve Brown 28:01
I think I think personally man is another Sunday, but I think Brady got a raw deal in the end. I didn’t really believe he got that horrible. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 28:09
man.

Marvin Constant 28:12
Yeah, acc championship game MVP sophomore year. Next year. They better get him the ball. What Come on now? Yeah.

Justin Riley 28:21
Then we get a coach license run the option I’m like, come on, man.

Unknown Speaker 28:25
It’s what I’ve heard enough conversations about the quarterback situation at Alabama back when we were there.

Justin Riley 28:38
So talk more trash AC or Marvin.

Unknown Speaker 28:43
ac Margaret. My people wouldn’t talk trash tomorrow. You got

Justin Riley 28:49
Marvin talking trash. He was it was worse. Or AC.

Steve Brown 28:53
Hey, ma. Marvin. I’ve been talking trash. Mommy, Daddy, Mommy. Well, sometimes

Unknown Speaker 29:22
Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 29:27
You already know you can’t be in your right mind to be alive.

Unknown Speaker 29:32
Oh,

Unknown Speaker 29:36
very true.

Marvin Constant 29:36
You got to think about That’s true. You’re running down here full speed every play to hit somebody mean? You can’t be too wrapped too tight to have to do that every play. And they admitted you’re running down here that a dude who’s usually about six foot six five by 320 230 pounds. And you 242 50 you’re out man anyway, so you know you’re going into a bad situation.

Steve Brown 29:59
Hey, you Yeah, just Justin and Steven. Uh, let’s just be entertaining. Well,

Justin Riley 30:06
Mr. Bergin argue with himself

Steve Brown 30:09
is two against one

Unknown Speaker 30:13
don’t start

Steve Brown 30:14
instigating again.

Unknown Speaker 30:15
I’m telling you

Justin Riley 30:18
what the viewers won’t man. It’s not about us not

Marvin Constant 30:24
you know Steve is gonna instigate he wants to pit us against each other so he can sit back and laugh the crack jokes. He don’t take the bait man.

Unknown Speaker 30:33
I wish you I wish

Steve Brown 30:36
I just didn’t appreciate the fact that you said he was a world class athlete but he No No, please

Marvin Constant 30:45
don’t take the bait. You see.

Justin Riley 30:51
This is a safe place man. Say what you gotta say man.

Unknown Speaker 30:54
Yeah, I’m not gonna hold back I’m not gonna

Steve Brown 31:00
wait, I’m watching man. Very very, very good. No, you are great DB man. And I just can’t believe how a person can just take that away seeing you only new light for cover just a couple on a cover three and zero and

Unknown Speaker 31:19
that’s largely

Unknown Speaker 31:20
because he couldn’t he couldn’t play dB. That’s all everybody wanted to play dB. dB.

Justin Riley 31:28
dB. Stephen, you gotta realize man, babies gotta turn around.

Steve Brown 31:36
Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 31:42
That’s your last

Steve Brown 31:42
1am but you know what? If you want to get Mark Tell him to stand up. He always come

Unknown Speaker 31:58
Did you get that package Justin?

Unknown Speaker 32:02
What package

Justin Riley 32:07
we got the full view it’s funny you said that because my sister just sent me went to her house and she got so yeah, I got it.

Steve Brown 32:27
No, no. Justin Marvin. Because he’s saying you need to work out

Unknown Speaker 32:42
you can see goes back to

Steve Brown 32:46
let me tell you something, man. I’m gonna keep it 100 which I got the package man. The 40 Plus package I got I got sweats. And I got the gloves. And this isn’t this is no lie. Those are some of the most comfortable durable workout gloves. And that’s real talk real time. Yeah, yeah. So kudos to Marvin for finally doing some right yeah. So so for the viewers who are watching if you if you’re into working out are you trying to work out or whatever man Listen, get get get that gear that 40 plus especially gloves I don’t know anything but the gloves are great man. And get the book too is a lot of misspelled words but get the book

Marvin Constant 33:32
and the gloves the gloves come in different colors as well. So ladies, we got you covered with the peaks and other things. Well,

Steve Brown 33:43
the do’s and the pink gloves

Marvin Constant 33:47
whatever you and your boo doing yes bedtime that’s between y’all see when talking about

Justin Riley 33:54
So wait, tell me about when you got the chemists man who will not feel really took you in and invested in you and help your growth as a player.

Unknown Speaker 34:03
Oh,

Unknown Speaker 34:04
I like to say Tony Dixon, Marcus, Spencer calth Bailey, those those are guys, little guys that I really looked up to. There was a guy named Mario costed around but you know, it depends on which day of the week you catch him. But you know that we had a really good close knit group of guys now a lot of people took me under and especially when people saw the talent that I had. And you know, as a walk on, sometimes you may get down because you’re not getting opportunities that everybody else is getting but those guys kept me going they challenged me every day to come in with the same intensity to to just follow up everything that you you put on the field the day before and eventually Your time will come and it you know, my time came so you know I appreciate it. I can name a million people throughout our team and our locker room that me out so forever be appreciative for

Steve Brown 35:03
I can’t believe that’s hard to believe.

Marvin Constant 35:08
I always say he wouldn’t

Justin Riley 35:14
Hammett’s back. And we talked a little bit the other day about how you got to Alabama it’s a pretty cool story. If you wouldn’t mind telling the audience and how you got to Alabama your story and pretty much how you had to be you had to do all by yourself. That was the hospital capacity. See? No.

Unknown Speaker 35:45
No, no, my. Yeah, my portion was pretty simple. They just needed me for one small part of it. finish the rest of

Steve Brown 35:59
you. I thought.

Unknown Speaker 36:06
anesthesia just kicked.

Unknown Speaker 36:12
A walk on never quit, man.

Unknown Speaker 36:21
Oh,

Unknown Speaker 36:28
man, that’s great. But yeah, just gonna get to your question. Long story short, got four little brothers. I didn’t want to go to community college at a friend of mine named Gordon who was already at Alabama. He tried to walk on but he pulled his hamstring. So him You guys remember Alan Holly and Richard Randolph. Those three guys all three walk ons. They gave me a they let me stay with them for a little bit while did the loans and the grants and etc. So I had my bicycle. It was the first few weeks of school. I rode my bike to the stadium, the stadium was unlocked. So I snuck in the stadium. I’ve never seen anything like that before. I’ve never been to collegiate game. A walk in the stadium. I said, You know what, I’m gonna try this out. I didn’t really know football was athletic. So I rode my bike to the complex. And I saw a paper on the door that basically said, walk on tryouts meeting 7am this day. So I said, All right, well, my bike back home and went to the meeting saw Dabo talking to about 6070 people. And I signed up. And I remember going up to talk to that. I was like, Hey, I’m ready to go. I want to do this. Yeah, let’s go. He kind of looked at me smiled, being a walk on himself. He’s like, Alright, you believe in you. That’s all you need. Good luck. You need to eat, and you need any workout you need to eat. I was like, I was skin and bones, man. So after that, it was six months, basically 6am like CrossFit classes at 6am 60 of us came down to nine of us, six of us got lockers for spring training. And I was the happiest kid in the world. And at that point, what was my motivation after that point, um, like I said, I didn’t really know what I was doing. I walked on this receiver. So basically, for one year, I was getting my teeth kicked in, on the Scout, as a wire team as a wide receiver. And I made the decision to switch over to dB, there was two to two situations where I said I do not want to be receiver ever again. One of them was they ran with it. They did a hitch route. And I ran a five yard stop and then coach that running back. And then I went to another receiver walking I was like Hey, hey, your turn your turn. I was like Nah, man, you go and I was like hey, but they know the play the defense knows the plates a hitch route Selena she got chewed out for not busting to the numbers fast enough. So you know, just do it. So I get lined up random. As soon as that leather hit my fingertips. It was dark. I saw yellow and blue lines. And that’s how I remember. So then after that, there was another tackling drill that we did one time and y’all remember Gerald Dixon love him to death when you remember the Rat Pack those guys tackling drills you know when the guys they held me down on the ground you know what I’m saying? And I saw the DBS It was like one cohesive unit. Everybody was it was they were just like a like an entity right? Roberta McBride yet a by the Louis, Wayne bank and all those guys. So now I’ll switch the defensive back at that standpoint. I put on about 20 pounds to program. I finally got onto the travel squad. And then I remember looking away and baking the whole time. I could never tell when bacon was a walk on our scholarship player. Because, you know, he was a strong performer from day one. What I saw, right? And I remember Wayne bacon at times when he other people, everybody when I get joked on I just some of those jokes were so damn good. I couldn’t think quick enough to even say nothing back. I would go home, and I would come up with counter jokes. Gerald Dixon and Freddy millons because they joke so good. Now the way Wayne bacon used to joke, he wouldn’t really say too much. He will give you this look like.

Unknown Speaker 40:34
And I could tell all kinds of jokes in his head. Give us that look. But anyways, I have to say I’m very appreciative to coach Thurman gave me shot on travel squad as a dB. Put me in the Auburn game the last few seconds of the game. I remember jumping in that game, I was the most happiest time in my life. It was during Ramadan means sleep. We’re both fasting at that time. And I just I mean, it was it was such a magical moment for me. I remember getting on the field. I heard 26 low left 26 low left. And then Reggie miles came up to me. And he patted me with kakak you know, what the hell are you doing, man? I’m ready to go. I got it. And I completely didn’t pay. I didn’t think I was gonna get that chance. Anyways, if you look at the film, all the corners, about eight to 10 yards, get a piece of safeties cover the top right. What I did was I was so scared again beats deep. I’m standing back about 1516

Unknown Speaker 41:41
just hoping,

Unknown Speaker 41:42
hoping nothing bad happens. So sure enough, play around a quick like 10 yard out route. caught the ball, tackling my bounds, whatever. And then the next the next week, I remember coach told me she was looking at game 31 seven. And he was like, What the hell are you doing? Boy? kept pitching on flat rock? No, I was like, basically, I try to like sell what you know, I was just thinking, you know? And if I had to listen that week, if I had to pay attention to details and the rest of my life and my career, I’m so caught up on details. After that specific experience. My ass would have been standing right where that ball was thrown. Exactly. I could have had my one interception on my life. I paid attention that week. Because that 26 left to the left side. I would have been right in position. Wow.

Marvin Constant 42:40
I gotta say this though. So I remember when you were playing wide receiver one day we were in practice. I don’t know what the hell you would do. I don’t know what made you do this. The ball was so far over your head but you lay it out anyway. Lay out for strip and bar 10 yards over a

Unknown Speaker 43:06
day. I remember that.

Marvin Constant 43:08
Maybe like somebody’s doing a bandit Boston diving into the pool.

Unknown Speaker 43:33
Only only for only four words went through my head for every one of those moments. You only get one shot?

Steve Brown 43:41
Yeah. Like that. Wow. Like that?

was probably uncatchable I think personally that effort.

Unknown Speaker 44:03
You know the coaches I remember customer told me to the sun October, like hammered. You’re athletic now. Right? You know you’re doing you’re doing good. You’re improving year after year. But I just can’t help but have to tell you that a small part of me thinks that you don’t know a lick flip about football. It was true. Me You know, I’m saying so for all you guys have brothers, kids. The fact that you’re getting them started elementary school, you know, eight year old nine year old 10 year old I mean, like that type of that those get those fundamentals early on if I only had that. Whatever,

Marvin Constant 44:43
but I gotta say this though. I gotta say. Nobody pissed off the starting DBS more than you were you were at wide receiver because you net them last time. I want to say They were taking no place. Tony Dixon out and boy, they were mad here. Let

Steve Brown 45:14
me ask you this, and I asked a lot of places. Okay, man, this is gonna be a special one to me anyway, as a walk on, what was it like? And it’s both Yeah. What was it like coming out of that tunnel for the first time? To me that’s like the most exciting. I don’t know why is the most exciting time when they come out and tunnel you like oh my god. So what was it like for you?

Unknown Speaker 45:35
I still remember that I still remember it like, like the back of my hand, man. It was the UCLA game. It was rings. And I remember coming out that tunnel, the lights bright. It was so loud, that it became silent. And I’m saying Yeah, and for me, all I was thinking of is like, Alright, this is my time to shine. I am going to warm up the best I fucking can warm up ever. Yeah, now I got criticized for that. conservatively to the side. Just like you’ve been here before.

Unknown Speaker 46:17
I love what you’re doing.

Unknown Speaker 46:19
Don’t go 100%

Steve Brown 46:35
What was it like to eat? When you first came out?

Unknown Speaker 46:38
Um, it was it made me want more, um, because you finally made it. But like the UCLA UCLA game, I didn’t start but I ended up because the person that shots over he got hurt in that game. And from that moment on, I started every game after that in his place. But um, you know, once I started, it was like you made it but it made you want more it made you thirsty for more because that crowd and Bryant Denny stadium. I mean, it made my skin crawl every single game win, lose or draw. They were in it. They were loud. They were behind you. They had your back. And it was it was to me the best environment and college football. So it was just a great experience.

Steve Brown 47:26
A man coming coming coming out of that tunnel is is the best experience you would ever want. I remember

Marvin Constant 47:34
when you came to town or the county jail.

Steve Brown 47:41
peewee? Yeah. I mean, you want more you want to

Justin Riley 47:56
piggyback off that, you know, as we just talked about just how insane our fans are in a good way. And just how we embrace every player and no matter no matter if you’re a walk on starter. And no matter if you’re going from the university 10 years later, you know, how does that support motivates you guys, especially when y’all were there, trying to make a name for yourself and come up.

Unknown Speaker 48:17
Hold on real quick, though, before

Justin Riley 48:19
he cut me off against the Lastly,

Marvin Constant 48:27
I want to add to what you were saying. I will say this being a walk on, most people look at like, Oh, you

Unknown Speaker 48:35
will walk on.

Marvin Constant 48:36
People don’t understand that walkins putting way more work than scholarship athletes, they have to fight five times as hard to just get on the travel roster. They have to fight five times as hard just to be able to dress for a game where scholarship guys, most of them are gonna dress anyway. Walk ons, fight their asses off for everything that they got. So make no mistake about it. They were just as much a part of the team as the scholarship guys, because you better believe when we were in practice, scout teams over there run scout team. Yeah, on walk ons work. But you best believe it was it was some healthified stuff going on. It was not easy. Nothing that they did was easy from getting to make the team to what they were forced to do in practice. And again, all they have most of them ever want to do is just put that uniform on and come out of that time. That’s all most of them.

Steve Brown 49:31
Got to correct you on some just when you said our fans, they embrace you and this and that. Who the hell do you know are embracing for the millions. I mean, Freddie kitchens, who was embracing Freddie kitchens who was saying, Yes, Freddie kitchens. We love him. We

Unknown Speaker 49:47
paint the hood. There. Thank you.

Stephen M. Smith 49:55
So when you were out there, how many times your mind Would you think you just don’t mess it up? Just don’t mess it up. Don’t screw it.

Unknown Speaker 50:12
I tell you what a corner bump man coverage or five man or one man, whatever, cover one. Yeah, I was thinking that big time because now in practice when I had to cover for the melons after I switched from the CVB I mean, there was one time, I mean, just to be straight up, she ran a stop route. And I went to go tackle him. He did about eight different little moves. And every move I tried to counter and it got to the point to I felt like my insides got twisted up. I collapsed. I didn’t get to touch him. I didn’t get to touch a shoelace. And he burned me on it. He stopped. thought out, right. And, but I tell you what, though, that motivation for those guys like buddy millons gel Dixon, everybody, you know, VPS, or vice versa. Those guys didn’t give me a hard time. I wouldn’t have fought the whole four years. Every week situation was motivation for the next week. I was always in my mind planning on getting them back on the field on their way. And never really could get to that point. Sometimes I did but my junior my senior year, but that same type of motivation, like my independence bowl ring, I changed the metal in it. I got an inscription to walk on never quits in it. I use the same concepts. Now with striker for the past 10 years here. So that chip on the shoulder that I had, then I just I can’t explain how grateful I am for that kind of pressure. You know

Steve Brown 51:48
that that day you should have shot for a million you should have shot it. You should have

Marvin Constant 51:57
you got to understand that he would just he is a little cocky and he would know whatever he wanted to do. So I would try for free every chance I got what you got to understand me afraid of

me like man, he had to do that to me. You saved me one time. It ain’t never over.

Justin Riley 52:25
As you brought up the the independence bowl Wayne, you sold out in the independence bowl. And then of course several other times. One of those times I remember very, very clearly it was against Nick Saban when he was coaching at LSU in Baton Rouge. And you went off on LSU man and he told us about that experience and how we just woke them.

Steve Brown 52:44
Don’t don’t talk about it. Get your cable cut off.

Unknown Speaker 52:53
The Alabama team actually shut LSU out. And LSU we went down there I forgot what we were ranked. But we were both ranked pretty high. And they were 10 at that point in the AP.

Justin Riley 53:08
Okay. Yeah. No, it was six My bad. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 53:13
Well, I mean, we went down there and we just physically took them out of the game from the opening whistle. I mean, we were big hits. turnovers everything I mean, their fans are so mad like I’ve never heard Tiger Stadium that quiet like you could hear a mouse pitch on cotton in that stadium that day. I mean we just physically took it to them that whole gang you want sec

Unknown Speaker 53:39
you got Defensive Player of the Week that week?

Unknown Speaker 53:42
Yeah sure did. Yeah, yeah, good memory.

Unknown Speaker 53:45
Good memory. I remember my memory. I will sit my ass at home

Steve Brown 53:57
you said he got good memory now he don’t

Marvin Constant 54:06
do me a favor. Move your camera to the right.

Steve Brown 54:21
Why every Bama standout Come on is live in a ceiling fan be messed up. Why

Justin Riley 54:34
don’t we go start a GoFundMe?

Unknown Speaker 54:43
Look, I got another one on

Unknown Speaker 54:44
the other side of the room. I’m gonna go get new several fans this weekend.

Steve Brown 54:47
Hey man, you don’t realize man. This is true. This is no live Bama players. We’ve had them a year had listening fans we have what a ceiling fan with one

Justin Riley 55:07
Yeah, that was George T. Your T star.

Steve Brown 55:16
Yeah. And by the way, you own Marvin’s trying to set you up in like, let me see you see them but you see that he was he was

Unknown Speaker 55:24
saying something before you

Steve Brown 55:25
got on and I’m like, you know what’s what’s wrong? What’s wrong with it? You should have

Justin Riley 55:41
we also have some guys jump on here and look like they were in the room they grew up in.

Had the Run DMC poster still on their wall. Hey, man. Hey,

Steve Brown 55:54
we got we got to do a segment. Bam, Bam. stars. Where are they? Now? It’s the ceiling fan. And making some bad Hey, all of these guys. Wayne, all y’all y’all have graduated and moved on and doing great things. But you won’t invest in the ceiling fan. What

Unknown Speaker 56:14
the hell? The new house,

Unknown Speaker 56:18
the new house is coming in 2021 22

Steve Brown 56:23
what makes you a new ceiling fan.

Justin Riley 56:25
And he’s gonna inspect the house before you know,

Unknown Speaker 56:28
I get your plane ticket up here. I’ll let you do this.

Steve Brown 56:31
Hey, Justin, I guarantee I’d be a hot gas back but when the blaze

Unknown Speaker 56:44
dusted it off.

Steve Brown 56:53
Patient

Justin Riley 56:58
went to their freezer so he’ll be alright for a minute.

Steve Brown 57:09
I’m really hard to

Unknown Speaker 57:24
remember remember, a walk on can get fired?

Justin Riley 57:32
I do have a serious question for both of you guys. We see a lot of former wall who get into college and they become stars like Rashad Johnson leave all Wallison in you Wayne, based on your experience, what happens they really elevate these guys from being virtually unknown to becoming stars.

Unknown Speaker 57:53
I think it’s a matter of, of the support system and your internal will to succeed. Because, you know, to walk on, a lot of walk ons don’t actually get to touch the field and, but to walk on, and have a goal in mind to succeed. Like I my goal wasn’t to play in the NFL, I just wanted to play college football. And, you know, ultimately, my coaches just started telling me you’re going to play on the next level, you have a chance to play on the next level. But to if you have a goal in mind, and you’re not out there, for the fun of it, you’re out there to compete, because we’ve all came from high school. And we were competing, and most of us were the big guy on campus in high school. But when you get on to Division One Pro, get into a division one program, you’re not that guy anymore. And, and especially if you’re walking on so you know to, to continue what you have for your goals, you have to have goals for yourself and to chase your goals, so that you can be satisfied with yourself at the end of the day when you close your eyes at night when your college career is over. When your professional career is over for some of us that are lucky enough, you have to look at yourself and say that you are happy with what you put forward. Every single day, every single year, every single practice every single workout, everything because like like Marvin said, it was a hard path for walk ons. And you know, we got the six o’clock workouts. We have the training sessions early in the morning without the whole team and then you come back and you got to work out with the team. So the path is harder, but as long as you set goals for yourself, and you don’t want to let yourself down. And that’s what was my motivating factor.

Marvin Constant 59:55
I’ll say this though real quick. I guess I have to do Respect for walkers then most people because my freshman year at Alabama they had decided that they were gonna reassure me before the season even started which coach came back and told me was a mistake, you know, but that’s a whole nother situation. But that entire season I spent that season with the walk home run and scout team so I know what they go through cuz I went through some of it not all of it. And when you don’t scout team you’re going against the number one offense to Chris Samuels the Dustin McLean talks. The Shannon Alexander’s it’s not easy, especially when you have all those stars going against a group of walk ons and guys that are probably never played. Because you’re Outland and every time that they make that they mess up something they’re gonna repeat it and coaches looking at them like you better go kick the ass. So you yourself sale as a welcome. Yeah, they really do. So that’s why I have a great appreciation for them. Because again, that one give me a rare shirt. I seen firsthand what they go through. And it’s easy it’s by no means is it easy.

Steve Brown 1:01:10
And you know what to me after it I have so much more respect for y’all. And even among even bigger fan, just hearing you guys story man because honestly, this walk on thing man and just pretty pretty much building you have to tear you down and you guys didn’t didn’t break or fall and that to me, man. That is that is like we’ll physical discipline, mental discipline, and that you don’t get a lot of that you don’t get a whole lot of it all

Unknown Speaker 1:01:39
stay in time.

Steve Brown 1:01:40
So a man kudos to both of y’all real talk. And I really felt like Marvin should have been on the walk on Team the whole his whole career. But you know,

Marvin Constant 1:01:55
I tell you, I tell you a funny story to see. So my freshman year I tell you they have you in scout team. We had Chris sammies on the show. And Chris talked about the tower. I knocked him out. But I disrupt the practice so much that they stopped letting me run plays on the scout. I used to hate you. Yeah, you just go stand over there. We can’t get that done. Cuz you just

Justin Riley 1:02:24
think you’re knocking players out. I heard way too. There was a time you basically took out a ma Galloway, you might talk about that.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:33
Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:38
So we had some pretty good guys on our scout defense. And so we work one day in practice man office, we were just making them look bad. And so coach was a coach Avi Williams was a running back coach. He was yelling at my practice, and then they ran like a toss. And when I tell you I came up, and I hit a mark and flip him over backwards. Like you thought you were in the stadium. All you heard was the look in his face when he stood up. He just tapped me on the helmet and said, good hit. But the whole time he’s walking back. Abby Williams was chewing him and knew you know what, man? Hey,

Marvin Constant 1:03:32
everybody, but Shawn Alexander. That’s true.

Unknown Speaker 1:03:36
He actually yelled at me for hitting the mic so hard.

Steve Brown 1:03:41
Hey, guys, listen, I gotta run. Das thanks for coming on, man. Much respect the sspr and get some new season thing, I think

Stephen M. Smith 1:03:57
was the life plan for DuBose. Man, what was that?

Unknown Speaker 1:04:01
Oh, it was it was I didn’t enjoy the best of times would do both. But he was a good coach. I don’t know, don’t get me wrong. But

Unknown Speaker 1:04:11
he,

Unknown Speaker 1:04:13
under that coaching staff, I felt like I had I was showing more what I was worth. And I was kind of overlooked on that coaching staff. I didn’t really get my full opportunity. But the assistant coach, you know, I think it was not a power struggle. But my position coach was always like, you’re doing this right? You’re doing that right? But it didn’t care. And I’m not gonna say it didn’t pay off because all it did was make me work harder. So it really did pay off because I knew that I was heading in the right direction. But you know, you had to beat out a lot of scholarship guys, and it’s not always fair. And it’s it’s very hard to do when we had like I said, we had a really talented group and in that secondary So, you know, things happen for a reason. And in due time everything’s going to want to work out

Justin Riley 1:04:59
thinking Coaches Of course, in the early 2000s, one thing we are known for was a coach and care sale. A beating your guys position. How tough was that for you guys with the constant turnover? You know, go jump from the Bose to frangioni. And then Shula, what was that? Like for you guys, especially when you’re, you’re trying to make a name for yourself as walkins?

Unknown Speaker 1:05:20
Well, I can let me say one next I got a little story for you. I remember right when French only left and that was my last year and I left right. I probably could have stuck it out. Done another year. But for some reason I was you know, Sturman and I took that real hard, right. So I remember I went and I went and walked on the soccer team.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:49
I didn’t know this.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:53
I can’t I couldn’t say it was the best decision that last semester. But I do remember, I joined the soccer teams, right? trying to teach myself how to play soccer. I remember, I remember I was waiting tables when price came in at all.

Justin Riley 1:06:11
He was a table two.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:17
So I said, Hey, let me get that table. So as the coach instead Mike price and few other coach the new coaches, and I was waiting on him. And I was trying so hard. While I was waiting there table to tell them. That was a foreign player I just finished. And I took a real personal that night because they didn’t know who the hell I was. And I had exited the program at that time. And I just remember I bet I took that night real hard because I you know, I couldn’t get the memo across to them that hey, you know, I could be playing for you right now. But new coaching staff, you know what I’m saying that kind of changes the game up for a walk on right, right at the very tail end. Right. When you’re thinking you’re thinking you’re about to get a scholarship, and all that just kind of changes goes out the window. So I remember that. Yeah, I remember that reel. Remember that? freakin Fettuccine Alfredo, that man was eating with the chicken parmesan. And I love that little itty bitty

Steve Brown 1:07:28
Oh my god.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:29
Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:33
Man.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:35
You didn’t get treatment? Did you?

Stephen M. Smith 1:07:43
Fettuccine Alfredo and the parmesan. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 1:07:47
I thought he just

Unknown Speaker 1:07:54
let me say this. I’m gonna give you two different because going from dubos to try and show the force that francione staff is the staff that gave me my opportunity. And yeah, so So yeah, it was. And then I and then I saw when francione resigned. Um, I felt bad for the players that were left over because I met with all the coaching staff that was coming in. Because in my transition to the NFL, they were like, they were just clueless on what to do. So I was really thinking like, Where did y’all get these guys from? Cuz we weren’t who know. I had coaches talking to people for me, from francione staff, talking to scouts, talking to coaches, um, and just just helping my transition out. And then you got a group of guys that are going to be in my shoes very next year, and they would have had a year with them. But it was like they the next coaching staff that came in, they were clueless, they didn’t last that long. But it just seemed like they were clueless. And they were in over their heads from the beginning. And I Reggie miles is already in the NFL and I used to talk to him and I used to tell Reggie I was like, you know, these guys, I feel bad for the for the players that are left behind because they’re not in good hands anymore. But the French Army Staff was do both staff was really good, because like I said, Dabo Sweeney gave me the opportunity. Dabo Sweeney and Coach Carter gave me the opportunity same day gave him the opportunity. And then I flourished under French only staff and then when prices staff came in after that, like I felt bad for the group.

Stephen M. Smith 1:09:35
I wait. What happened? So friends Oh, here we go. So price staff came in Tip Drill video.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:45
That’s exactly what they did.

Marvin Constant 1:09:49
To go from YouTube to the University of Alabama. Yeah, that’s a major step up. Well,

Stephen M. Smith 1:09:57
that’d be a ludicrous video. Do

Marvin Constant 1:10:02
Okay, look at it like this. That’s almost like winning a lottery for him. You’re the head coach. Now you get the job at Alabama.

Stephen M. Smith 1:10:11
That is one major. Once again, I can see why he was doing this Shake your tail feathers in the video.

Marvin Constant 1:10:19
But the thing about it though, Steve, he didn’t even have to use the head coach at Alabama. You ain’t gotta go to strip club that come to you? Yep.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:40
They came.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:42
They come to come to the coaching anybody listening? I have no clue what Martin’s talking

Marvin Constant 1:10:46
about. The coaches are getting paid millions we wouldn’t get paid. statue of limitation that’s 20 years ago.

Justin Riley 1:11:15
So a good time to take a question from the audience. And this is for Hamad your former teammate to bend a Czech law TC one to know how mad is you used to get when they are changing your number?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:30
Oh, God. All right, so keep that secret. So I started off number 22. I felt great about it. And they gave me number 29 and my name is Hannah Hawk. And I’m on Galloway. Ahmad was number 29 to write you know, nothing like being a duplicate when I got 30 I felt great about it. Yeah, but most of the time I spent being a mod Galloway’s duplicate now You know what’s funny? The Auburn game where I got I got the last few tackles in the Auburn game. I have been looking for those stats online for 20 years. And about a decade ago I remember I found him under a mod Galloway Auburn Alabama.

Stephen M. Smith 1:12:36
Oh, that’s messed up. Bad. Mommy reminds me of when I make the game when I

Unknown Speaker 1:12:49
get on TV makes you

Stephen M. Smith 1:12:52
know, just just just remind me of when I made the talk or the game when in high school, and they gave attacker to my teammate. Oh, no.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:11
It wasn’t as common to have duplicate numbers. But nowadays, everybody’s got duplicate numbers. Nobody was

Marvin Constant 1:13:19
doing that.

Justin Riley 1:13:20
Hey, Marvin. I’m surprised they didn’t give him a 43

Marvin Constant 1:13:28
Miss Antonio langem number.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:31
Nobody’s

Stephen M. Smith 1:13:34
the infamous k foster novel.

Marvin Constant 1:13:36
Hey, hey, wait, I told you what you had the ugliest DB Nova in the history of dB 43.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:43
Yeah, that was

Unknown Speaker 1:13:46
he picked that number.

Justin Riley 1:13:49
Nope, he didn’t.

Marvin Constant 1:13:51
He said coach, tell him the man make the number. Number. Don’t make demands too much.

Justin Riley 1:14:07
I know it’s gonna be hard to narrow this down. But for each of you, what was your favorite moment as a player in Alabama? We’ll start with you Why? Hey, you.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:21
favorite moment as a player?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:23
If you won’t go top

Unknown Speaker 1:14:24
three. I have I have I have a bunch. I’ma give the independence bowl, blocking the punt. Yeah. So to give our offense the ball back to go score, the winning touchdown game that that was probably my favorite because I contributed in all the games I played in. But I never had a play like that, that change the outcome of the game. So for me, that has to be the one that sticks out the most.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:55
That’s powerful. I

Unknown Speaker 1:14:56
remember that.

Justin Riley 1:14:57
I mean, what about you what sticks out in your mind? Is your top moment

Unknown Speaker 1:15:03
load left man

Unknown Speaker 1:15:17
I’m thinking about him pretty deep when he’s supposed to

Unknown Speaker 1:15:26
Yeah. favorite moment I was allowed to be in it was a good it was a good moment man.

Marvin Constant 1:15:33
Did you know that that sounds like some Kenny Smith would do

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plays up

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the Kenny Smith and Jackie ship arguments used to be the best

Marvin Constant 1:16:11
man them to use to go edit and practice boy

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before hood

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Hey, Hey, yo, y’all remember when derrius dairies Gilbert had that? Uh, that 225 rep max.

Marvin Constant 1:16:29
malice, you

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know, I mean, he just he just got back from he just got back to us two days or whatever, some.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:43
Don’t do that, my boy.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:47
Good, man. He’s good, man.

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You

Justin Riley 1:16:51
tell the story.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:55
I just remember everybody. We’re doing the redmax to 25 pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. fail, right? No, it’s not that out. There. Do you play lineman right? Now I’m back here. linebacker right back. Yeah, Marvis give me that look like man.

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It was great, man.

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He gonna be a linebacker come back and do 25 seven times.

Marvin Constant 1:17:24
Lifting weights isn’t everybody’s strong suit, Chris and you can lift weights because

Justin Riley 1:17:33
Dustin didn’t lift weights unless

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he drank beer.

Justin Riley 1:17:40
His tray table what was buffalo feels?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:43
Exactly. So

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he survived.

Marvin Constant 1:17:49
Everybody was into hitting the weights.

Unknown Speaker 1:17:52
Not everybody. Yeah, no, but she. Yeah. I remember one time I was covering Lance on a dam post route. Lance. You remember wetlands broke his arm? Yeah. News crack some of the cast on? Yep. So I did pass interference on him so I wouldn’t get beat. That man caught me over the head with that

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cast so hard. never find a male pass interference to man with

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man.

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I was just, I was just trying to get another locker room man. Man

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I regretted that decision to he got me and he pushed up for people in wheelchairs to man. Come on.

Justin Riley 1:19:08
So how does your journey Alabama prepare y’all for life after Alabama and football?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:16
All right. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker 1:19:21
So motivation like Wayne was talking earlier about, about his motivation for for getting to the next level to play in college and then junior year to get the NFL. Right. I knew I was never going to the NFL. That was not my goal. My goal was to get that badge on my resume. Because I wanted to get into sales after school. And it was it helped me get into yellowpages I was selling Yellow Page advertising North Alabama small rural counties, right. Both listings, full pages, whatever. Every little small town from the country small talk haleyville hackleburg red Bay, Florence Muscle Shoals I’m talking the nicest people that I’ve ever met collectively. That helped me out so much by my little yellowpages advertisements. If, if I didn’t get that support that first year after school, I didn’t have a name recognition or anything like that, but I had my little my little lustrum, iron bowl ring that were everywhere I go. That sent me into pharmaceutical sales and I would name drop out them all the time that got me into device sales after I got laid off from the 2009 financial crisis and jumped out to Kansas City and I made it my way down here to Miami. So that that four years and what it did for me, it was in the back of my head my goal. I’m in my Yes, sir. You need to come visit

Unknown Speaker 1:20:58
me down there.

Marvin Constant 1:21:00
I come in a few weeks.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:04
I’ll get your number. Come on down. I’ll tell you exactly where to go. I know where to go. I won’t go with you now. Marry back my privileges now.

Marvin Constant 1:21:20
I gotta hurry up and go.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:23
I’ll tell you what, yeah, in this city. You can go to Starbucks or McDonald’s without getting uncomfortable. You know? I’m saying so. But I will tell you, you come down to visit you guys come down. You’ll be taken care of low cost stay in my house. I’ll tell you exactly. where to go. I hear the stories the next day. gets on the get we’ll get you on my little boat rental club. Try to catch some grouper. It’ll be a good time, man. Hey, go. And I gotta say I gotta say to Latina.

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Hola.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:02
I’m from Alabama. Oh my god. Nice.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:11
That’s what Alabama did for him guys. Yeah,

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I forgot the question. I started

Unknown Speaker 1:22:20
living back like I was in my 20s. Again, I don’t

Justin Riley 1:22:25
know not buy the question. Yeah. How did what you went through with Alabama prepare you for life after Alabama, the NFL and then life after football.

Unknown Speaker 1:22:36
Um, it, like I said, it gave me the will to want to succeed, like I said, from walking on Alabama, to being a sixth round draft pick in the NFL. And so if you’re a sixth round draft pick, I mean, you’re almost just as good as a walk on at a college program if you’re not the priority, and to stick around the NFL. You know, it was just, it gave you the foundation, really when you realize that you can make it there when the odds are stacked against you. You go to the next level, you can make it there. And then you know, I’ve been working in the federal government now for 11 years and have had made a pretty good career for myself. So I said that was just the foundation and it gave me building blocks to add on to every level in my in my career after after leaving Alabama.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:31
You work in the federal government is that

Unknown Speaker 1:23:35
hey, snitches get stitches, man. I work at the

Unknown Speaker 1:23:40
FBI too. So maybe while

Marvin Constant 1:23:51
he was doing batteries

Justin Riley 1:24:04
we will for sure. Before we move into the closing part of our show, I’d like to bring up another one of our sponsors. If you’re in the bay minette area and looking for the best wings around look no further than what’s cooking wings and fries. There locally owned and operated by none other than Alabama legend Atlas Harry on Atlas and his staff who provide you the best wings and best service around visit them today. They’re located behind Ruby Tuesday. And next door to hibbett sports. I before we close Marvel tell us what

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was that Wait, what’s the name of that? What’s the name of this place?

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What’s clucking shape?

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fries?

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What’s cooking wings

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and fries? Yeah.

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Oh, man.

Justin Riley 1:24:49
He’s a big man. Follow monaci Yeah,

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yeah. All right. All right shit.

Justin Riley 1:24:58
Come through the mail. For Yeah, if you’re in the Bay Area go support our guy. We’re all about supporting our former Alabama guys any way we can.

Stephen M. Smith 1:25:09
Why was clucking baby

Justin Riley 1:25:11
you sir Martin? thought a little bit about it earlier. Tell us how the book is doing, how many copies are sold. And I saw some great testimonials from people this past week on your Instagram. Give us the overall rundown.

Marvin Constant 1:25:26
I don’t know how many copies of the books been so honestly because it’s so in Amazon. And so from my website. I just know it has done phenomenal numbers. And yes, you’ve seen all the people on the ground when 40 plus strong hoodies, the gloves, the Sona vest, and all the other workout accessories that we carry at 40 plus calm trying to get back in shape. Whatever you need. We got your cup full. So

Unknown Speaker 1:25:49
hold on a second. Marvin Marvin. Yeah. What’s the website 40

Marvin Constant 1:25:55
number 44 zero p l u s s t r o n g.com 40 plus strong.com is right here report strong

Unknown Speaker 1:26:03
calm.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:03
You got workout gear and you got a book there too. Okay. The other day for that CrossFit class.

Marvin Constant 1:26:10
The workout get your workout book actually has three different workout programs in one for beginners, one for intermediate, and one for guys who go girls who goes to the gym and just kills it on a regular basis. I mean, I was at 317 at one point. Yesterday at 208 this is actually a large sweatshirt that I can fold over

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your to your to your to eight.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:32
I know right? Like that’s crazy. Yeah, okay.

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I don’t know. I’m gonna. Okay, well, I didn’t know.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:40
This is a large sweatshirt. So I believe you man. I

Unknown Speaker 1:26:42
believe you shit. I’m 216 right now. I’ve been training in CrossFit three days and four days a week. Ryan bike all the damn time. Still can’t get six pack? Nothing. Marvin. Oh, you’re still 22 I trained my ass.

Unknown Speaker 1:26:58
I hear you.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:00
I need to get my 40 plus stuff but but I Marvin I just crazy to believe that he 208 pounds. Like my highest weight when I was playing football was probably like 215 when I was in the NFL. And

Marvin Constant 1:27:15
you see it right? That’s 208 pound me

Unknown Speaker 1:27:18
didn’t see my talk about how Marvin always

Justin Riley 1:27:28
mirror for him and practice.

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Photoshop.

Unknown Speaker 1:27:38
You don’t never put ketchup on fries for nothing. You hadn’t had a flavored sauce in a decade.

Marvin Constant 1:28:00
That’s what I’m doing. Oh, baby.

Justin Riley 1:28:06
Oh, Steven Smith, you’re part of our family here. But you also have your own show Monday, Wednesday, Friday night. In my own words, tell us what’s going on with that, and how we can tune in and how we can contact you.

Stephen M. Smith 1:28:17
Well, first and foremost, we got the man that worked with Bryce young throughout his time in high school coming on tomorrow’s show. So we’re gonna talk to him about Bryce young and what can we expect from him? Is he gonna be in this heated quarterback conversation throughout the spring in the summer? That’s gonna be fine. I’m also gonna talk about can Alabama keep the state of Texas and recruiting? Because for some reason you got fans scared to death because we lost coaches with Texas? Texas, y’all keep your pants on but I was not going to Texas. So we will talk about that. We will have a fun conversation is every monday wednesday and friday on YouTube. Six o’clock pm Central Time. touched on Obama magazine. In my own words, y’all get there y’all laugh y’all have fun. Please call me and let me know if

Marvin Constant 1:29:12
he ranch with my fries.

Unknown Speaker 1:29:14
That was me.

Unknown Speaker 1:29:18
Man, come on. Yogurt. Yogurt is tomorrow night tomorrow.

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Tomorrow night

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67 Eastern. Yeah. Okay, Riley

Unknown Speaker 1:29:39
Yeah.

Justin Riley 1:29:40
Yeah, check it out. It’s a great show. And like I say give him a call man. He takes Collins all day long. We got some entertaining posts.

Stephen M. Smith 1:29:50
It’s gonna be about five Peters gonna call can we hold all the taxes? We don’t

Justin Riley 1:29:57
even know what’s gonna happen there. I tell you what to write. And as far as us for our website Monday night 9pm Central 10pm. Eastern, we’re for in depth analysis and recruiting news. Well, the town evaluation on Thursday nights, the Jersey Boys show with Victor and Byron is at 7pm 8pm. Eastern. They’re just two guys in Jersey talking about the NFL, the Giants college football and whatever comes to their mind. There’s Thursday they’ll be talking about how I owe the money for betting against the book. This is gonna be entertaining. All right. Next week’s show, Marvin, what do you got for so it’s still under wraps?

Marvin Constant 1:30:55
know you’ve been getting a guest lately.

Justin Riley 1:31:00
And some good ones too. You’re welcome.

Marvin Constant 1:31:04
We will collectively figure it out. How about that?

Justin Riley 1:31:09
Most definitely. But, guys, again, this show is all about you. And I really appreciate y’all coming home is a pleasure to have you. It’s a pleasure to watch your story at Alabama unfold. Absolutely amazing. And I really hoped a lot of people there coming up. Were able to watch this and get inspired by you guys. Thank you for what you did for Alabama. And then for being with our crazy group for the past hour and 15 minutes.

Marvin Constant 1:31:33
Thank you again. I understand the journey.

Justin Riley 1:31:40
And by the way, folks who want to keep up with y’all contact y’all Where are y’all on social media

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I’m on I’m on Instagram it’s better underscore with underscore bacon and on Facebook just weighing bacon

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bacon let’s go Yes, that’s

Justin Riley 1:31:59
the best name I’ve seen on it history.

Unknown Speaker 1:32:02
Period. Yeah, man.

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Get yourself into my page

Marvin Constant 1:32:11
don’t say too much over the couch.

Justin Riley 1:32:18
I don’t know Marvin NCAA is gonna be giving us a call after comment you made earlier

Unknown Speaker 1:32:21
Exactly.

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Remember nothing

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we paid our dues for that

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was paid for

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man

Marvin Constant 1:32:43
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Yeah,

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amen. But damn, can I get my damn Instagram name?

Justin Riley 1:32:58
man he’s angry. Anger coming from bitterness.

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you want to see if you want to if you want

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to scroll down and

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that’s what I was gonna say I need to get my hands on a scuba dive I told you a while ago I was gonna I was gonna get down there but COVID slow me down

Marvin Constant 1:33:44
a wind baking in the words

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you’re gonna drown

Justin Riley 1:33:51
Oh, I have it I gotta say congratulations on the little one man. Good looking child.

Unknown Speaker 1:33:57
Appreciate it man. super happy.

Justin Riley 1:34:00
Good to see you as a father man. You look like having a lot of fun so loves finos Good Times

Unknown Speaker 1:34:05
man. Yeah, so you guys come on down. We’ll get you on the water go to the sandbar you can do what you need to do with the sandbar while I sit in the boat.

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Keep the sharks away from a

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highway.

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Bad information you don’t

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really speak English.

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At all right?

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Taco Bell.

Unknown Speaker 1:34:55
Yeah, guys, thanks

Justin Riley 1:34:58
again. It was a great Right time we had to have you back home. Keep us up to date with what’s going on in your lives. And we’ll see y’all soon. Roll Tide.

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Roll Tide.

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Roll Tide.

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