In this episode, Victor Arocho and Byron Jones go over the New York Giants free agency moves, and other teams as well.
Victor Arocho – @varocho
Victor Arocho 0:00
We are now welcome to the Jersey Boys sports talk hosted by your own truly Byron Jones and D. Victor roadshow brought to you by the sports cast. Today’s March 18 2021. If you haven’t yet, please subscribe to the sports cast in all of your channels, YouTube, Periscope and iTunes. We have an app now on iTunes, please download it. And if you have, if you are listening to iTunes, please leave us a rating and review us that will help us out tremendously. We have a lot of fun and we enjoy people calling in and it’s just an easy conversation of people talking sports services, regular Jersey Boys nice and easy. Unless you push us to the wrong level, then we you know we’re gonna bring we’re gonna bring it to you, you better know what you’re talking about. So again, please check out our sports app on on the sports cast at iOS and subscribe to our sports channel on YouTube and hit the notifications because then you can see at any time when you see us live in two, it’s repeated so it’s on our you missed the show and you want to hear us talk or if you come on our show and you want to share it with whoever you want to share with you can see that you were on a sports cast. So let’s see what you got to say. All righty, so let’s I want I want a real quick shout out to a happy birthday to Yvette grooms one of my best friends sisters. George grooms today’s her birthday and she is at the urban where her younger brother and a good friend my cow grooms is hosting a comedy night. So if you’re here in South Florida go to the urban. It’s on a 1000 Northwest Second Avenue in Miami, Florida. I believe they go from 645 to 1011 o’clock. There’s drinks. I wish I could make it I think, Byron I think I’m going to do a show out of there. So I can go and do a show out of their cars funny. Oh. Carl is funny. Let me tell you he’s funny. Yeah, that will be interesting if I’m doing a show out of there. So he’ll be on and then I’m going to do a show in a in a private space. But we made this to sound like a videotape. But uh, I’ve never had somebody make me laugh so hard consistently where my stomach hurt. Right so that kids super talented. Super, super, super talented. Alright virus How you doing? You got a lot of giant stuff on he he got a big sweater on. So how’s the weather there?
Byron Jones 2:44
The weather is nice here is random. A lot of rain. But it’s like a bit of a 50 so we’re all good. Yeah.
Victor Arocho 2:50
So when it is raining, it’s pretty much gray though, right?
Unknown Speaker 2:54
Very great. Like
Victor Arocho 2:59
Okay, why am I happy St. Patty’s Day to our Irish friends out there.
Unknown Speaker 3:05
Plenty of them.
Victor Arocho 3:06
You know, plenty, plenty of them. And today was a beautiful day here in South Florida was sunny. Nice little breeze a little bit windy. But it was. It was nice. But I like the daylight savings going forward. That meter. I like more sunshine. Especially down here. Because it seems like it gets the sun stays out longer down here because we’re closer so so it won’t get darker to eight, eight.
Unknown Speaker 3:34
Let’s start now. Now,
Byron Jones 3:40
I was definitely dark here.
Victor Arocho 3:41
Yeah, for sure. So we got an interesting day together. So what’s the weather like there Philly right now. Right? Now what temperature wise?
Byron Jones 3:51
Oh 10 5050
Victor Arocho 3:54
that’s not so bad with the reins of pain. Alright, so let’s get right into it. You know, we’re always going to start out with giants. And then we’re gonna get into the draft. And I’m gonna tell you a little bit about how I feel because where we went, but all right, I got here a Kenny golladay is expected to get an offer from the giants. That’s a nice receiver we can get there.
Byron Jones 4:18
He’s a little injury problem because he thinks he only played like five. He played five games last year. I’m just repeating what they said. They said he played by you know he only played by he had a hip flexor. So they brought him in, you know for a physical because you got to do that. And then you know the trick usual is usually as you get once you get into the building, you won’t let them leave unless you sign the contract. So they got him there. So it’s up the Dave Gettleman that screws up. So
Victor Arocho 4:44
what’s the Italian word you use for guys like that?
Byron Jones 4:48
Fred g freezer Fred G is very fragile. He’s a friend. He’s six for 220 pounds and he’s a little salt
Victor Arocho 4:57
Kevin’s friend Julie. very fragile But 642 20s is a big kind of thing. It’s a big receiver but a little thin, right?
Unknown Speaker 5:07
Well, they need a receiver like that.
Victor Arocho 5:09
Or I’m too heavy at six foot to head. up to 16 I’m
Byron Jones 5:14
only four pounds less. Yeah, okay. Sure. Sure. You
Victor Arocho 5:17
know, no, no, yeah, you can see my face is when I gain weight. You’ll see me go like this right away. Like my hair, your
Byron Jones 5:24
hair, your hair getting big toe. My hair’s gonna go, man, let the 80s go.
Victor Arocho 5:30
That’s not that big. You want to see a big thing?
Byron Jones 5:33
For sure. like, yo,
Victor Arocho 5:36
let me know, tomorrow when I wake up, I could shave it and I’ll go back again.
Unknown Speaker 5:41
Really? Yeah. Okay, okay.
Victor Arocho 5:44
Alright, so. Alright, so you did, he’s Fred jewelry, but he’s pretty good. So let’s hope that he does something that we’re the giants. And you know, you got to remember also the Giants though. At least from my perspective, we’re more conservative. So I think we could preserve receivers a little better than most teams. Right? Because we’re gonna run, you know, we’re gonna throw you sound like we’re a constant throwing team where he’s got the chance to get super, you know,
Byron Jones 6:11
they’re proud to put the weapons around him for him to throw the ball.
Victor Arocho 6:14
Right. Well, we need to take one sake one’s got to do his piece. He’s got it. He’s got to come out. I mean, I don’t know if I would. I don’t know. But if I had to turn around and say when I was coming back, and my team did as well as they did without me. I’m coming back with some fire.
Byron Jones 6:31
Well, he’s looking at the next big contract so so he has to play well.
Victor Arocho 6:35
Okay, good. I want to keep my liking I think if you could guys stand up. And then I they reportedly the Giants can agree to terms with I don’t even know who this guy is. Maybe you do. Mike Glennon this guy’s huge. He’s six foot seven 225 pounds. expensive. Who’s the guy
Byron Jones 6:54
he played in North Carolina State originally. He’s been with a lot of changes. He’s been with the bears, Tampa Bay or is with now and he’s like a journey being kind of guy now. You know, he’s good backup. You know, there’ll be an upgrade from Colt McCoy. Because I’m just saying upgrade that’s just wrong. I know. It’s horrible. But yeah, here’s a couple of games. Yeah, it is what it is man. You know what can you do for me now Lee? Yeah,
Victor Arocho 7:23
that’s a big quarterback is everywhere there was a time that quarterbacks above like six five usually and didn’t perform well until Flacco came in
Byron Jones 7:31
or not for a while Peyton Manning to was six five
Victor Arocho 7:34
Yeah, but so above six follows right because six foot seven Flacco is like six foot seven. I just wonder you know they always make up these things because you know what the average six foot seven guys either playing basketball or he’s not going to be playing quarterback. You know, I
Byron Jones 7:47
mean, back in the day. McGuire’s brother Mark McGuire. His brother Dan McGuire was one of those big giant quarterbacks he lasted like a year. Or whatever he was he’s big.
Victor Arocho 7:58
They also said six foot quarterbacks couldn’t make it looking freeze.
Byron Jones 8:02
They proved that well and the little the major down in Arizona. What are you gonna call the guy
Victor Arocho 8:11
don’t say that word on our other show.
Byron Jones 8:15
Let me be I’m sorry. He’s the short guy. He’s five foot nine.
Victor Arocho 8:19
This is Yeah, sure is a short Well, actually five foot nine average for a man. But it’s just not average for football player.
Byron Jones 8:28
Not the NFL. Now the five foot quarterback.
Victor Arocho 8:30
Normally there’s some great five foot nine defensive backs. Oh, I can’t remember right now but I know there’s some faff at night. But I know that for sure. Alright, so so that’s a backup there. We got him anything else you got from the job? Hi, Rudolph
Byron Jones 8:47
Titan formerly of Minnesota. I think we have something going on with Minnesota. Between us losing dalvin Tomlinson to Minnesota. So we just signed the tight end down Cavuto for pretty good, but he’s 31 years old. So he’s more like a blocking tight end now. And then a sign an edge rusher. I can’t say I’ve been Hey, somebody some strange man. They find him as the edge rusher from Minnesota as well. Hmm. Interesting.
Victor Arocho 9:18
Why were they talking about letter Williams? They franchise? Are they resigned to the franchise them? No.
Byron Jones 9:24
It was the fact that free franchise them to sign him to the contract. So now he is good to go now. Oh, because I thought I was reading something that they’re working to contract. I’m like I thought they already did that. Three years what 63 or 65 million or whatever it is. 45 million guaranteed for signing his name on a paper.
Victor Arocho 9:43
And who is the other lineman that you you want you are? You want it over Leonard Williams.
Byron Jones 9:49
I want to dive in Thomas Thomas in the state guy we lost. Yes, they went to Minnesota. He’s a second one that went to Minnesota. If you remember lynnville Joseph back Today here, another one that went to Minnesota that are assigned with them. So I guess they got a thing with Minnesota or somehow.
Victor Arocho 10:06
So would that lead? Well, what does that leave us left with the defensive line?
Byron Jones 10:11
Like you got BJ Hill will step in replace. We’ll try to Thomas he played a lot last year, he was a third round pick. You got big Dexter Lawrence is probably gonna move to the nose tackle where he played, you know, in college, and you got Leonard way is the other guy, the third guy, they signed resign Austin Johnson, another lineman, and then they have a whole bunch of free agent guys that you know that they’re gonna have to be patchworking of getting those lower end. You know, free agents come in.
Victor Arocho 10:44
Well, you say no stack. Oh, is that because they’re running a three? Four?
Byron Jones 10:47
Yeah. It’s a burden, like a version of the four three, you know, basement that’s free for when they run?
Victor Arocho 10:54
Yeah, cuz anytime I hear nose tackle, right, it’s either you know, you’re running a five that doesn’t exist anymore, or three, four, right? But if you’re running a four, three, there’s no nose tackle, correct?
Byron Jones 11:05
What four three now, but it could be four three over. That’s where you know, the, the attack will move over time. overtop of the center. So your current version, you know of it. Yeah. Okay.
Victor Arocho 11:19
So I’ve heard the word no, stagger Walter. Alright, great. Any other things happening with the Giants out there? You know, I just always like to get some of the giant reporting and I haven’t seen much.
Byron Jones 11:30
Wayne gallman might be on his way out the door. Because they signed the vontae. Booker running back from the Raiders to replace. Probably gallman and Dion Lewis, the other guy that was there, which he almost lost a couple games fumbling, returning kick off. But those guys are good, y’all. So we’ll see. But I’d rather
Victor Arocho 11:51
wait back. And we’ll see cuz right now everybody’s picking Washington. I am.
Alright. Today is March 18th. Day after St. Patty’s day just remember Byron’s taking velocity for what do you think? I suffered any C’s?
Byron Jones 12:13
Yes. Yeah, I’m taking the giants. They have the best defense right now. The best coach right now. Man. That’s right. They just picked up Fitch, Pat Fitzpatrick from Miami. He’s got to be the quarterback with the other kid backing them up or, you know, one way or another?
Victor Arocho 12:33
Any second you think Fitzpatrick is going to be the starter? Yes. I’ll get about
Byron Jones 12:39
that watch. And then they just signed Curtis Samuel why receiver from I think was the Panthers. So they’re loaded every receiver? Well, they need to they need to have alignment. You know, after the linemen, they’ll get a couple of those. And maybe a corner and they’ll win the NFC ease. You know, giants will be a second hater with my giant stuff on chat. John’s gonna take it at night. Do
Victor Arocho 13:06
they want a one game away from Tigger? They’re gonna figure I think no, record. Really, I love waves they get a love. You know, I want to see a river do well. Right. Um, I believe they got a great line. So I always like to see those chase young I like, you know, it’s weird. They start liking players, right. But if they’re in my same conference. Oh, and I just don’t I just don’t, you know, I don’t have confidence in it. Fitzpatrick I mean, I think you can lead a team to take him just as far as I could possibly go. But I don’t believe I’m not that I have that much belief in Danny dimes yet. But But. But I just think that we were close enough to take in that conference. Right? We should have beat Dallas and we would have won the conference. We were on the conference, it would have been over would that one game made a difference.
Unknown Speaker 13:56
So that means don’t take game for granted and play hard in every game. You lose 40 to 38 is ridiculous. All right. Well, we’ll see what happens. And before we get to the draft piece,
Victor Arocho 14:07
there’s two things I want to go because draft we know we went long last time belcheck we think about the spending spree belcheck is doing they’re making a lot of them making a lot of talk about it.
Byron Jones 14:18
Yeah, but they’re good moves. Oh, no everything that you know he’s going for, you know, stuff that they need it but they also have those guys coming back. That opted out last year. So their defense, they’re going to be a top five defense and what are they usually they usually go to the Super Bowl when a top five defense. What do you mean, the guys who opted out mean the guys who went somewhere else, but the ones that didn’t play last year because of COVID?
Unknown Speaker 14:39
They didn’t play at all? No, really,
Byron Jones 14:42
I think with Dante, Hightower, one of the linebackers a couple or one of their safeties, I think you’ve been talking about in the channel. I think he retired so but um, yeah,
Victor Arocho 14:54
the AFC East and he’ll be interesting. Area conferences getting a lot better. Because Because right now you got a boy I think buffalo still the best team there. I think the dolphins are coming on. We’ll see what happens. I like Flores Flores is a great coach.
Byron Jones 15:10
The Jessica Moses they got rid of Adam gates.
Victor Arocho 15:18
I forgot the Jets or even at least just run it in LA sigh Richie Vargas. It is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. So we’ll see how many you know, at least say at least it’s gonna be more competitive conference.
Unknown Speaker 15:31
Yeah, right. Instead of
Victor Arocho 15:32
a dominating see and we’ll see. Remember, you also got, you know what I forgot? I gotta make sure if I’m getting responses on Facebook, because I hate finding out later. Why is my computer died here? Okay. Um, hey, find me later that someone made a comment we didn’t.
Byron Jones 15:53
And the other thing is with the jets that Juju might end up there to just shoot them. Well.
Victor Arocho 16:01
I like him, isn’t he? He’s like he’s young.
Byron Jones 16:03
He’s very young. He’s the one that when he first 25 Yeah. When he first got drafted, he couldn’t drink. You know, he went no love to drink. You know, he had to have a car driver’s license. He couldn’t draw a deal to him. He rolled around his bicycle. He john Woody, I think was like 20. But he came up but Pittsburgh.
Victor Arocho 16:21
He’s only he’s only 25 Was there another Juju though? Because I like when I do do something. I think that he was a lot older. There was no other play. That was a Juju something. He’s all he’s only one.
Unknown Speaker 16:34
Juju? Yeah, he’s only did you do?
Victor Arocho 16:37
He’s good. I like that kid. Just trying to see where we’re at on on Facebook. So I don’t miss people making comments. I don’t know why I was having problem with this. I show you looking at it. I got every screen possible. Now you probably can’t see it, because I have a background. But um, I just want to make sure here. I hate the stuff that totally sounds to alter. Okay. And then I get your draft side by side, because I see differences.
Byron Jones 17:09
Last week was a lot of trades. And this week was none. It’s gonna change again, because of you know, some of the things with free agency that happened this week. So it’ll change again.
Victor Arocho 17:24
So let’s say with belcheck for a little bit Do you do okay, the good news? Do you think Bella check? Okay, is there anything behind Bella check making those moves? Or because of Brady? Or is it something you know? Is it ego? Is it what are you just hit business or just you know, mean? You know, everybody you know how it is? sports is one of those things everybody starts speculating about
Byron Jones 17:51
how does bounce checks almost 70. So I’m sure he wants to win one without Brady to prove to the whole world that it was his system and not Brady. So, you know, he does have the keys to the kingdom as far as with crap. So because that’s crap, money is not bills money. And he just went crazy. You know, he’s like, you know what, I’m gonna load it up. I’m gonna win with defense. Yeah, I’m a fixed cam, you know, because cam was a hot mess. You know, couldn’t complete a simple slant or just easy passes. Now they’re gonna fix cam, and they’re gonna be a lot better to shoot. Well,
Victor Arocho 18:29
I got a couple things I wanted to say about that one. I’m going to go on the record, just like you have been with your flip flop and then I deny and deny and I’m not even our bill belcheck will not win another ship. Whoa, whoa, gate. I’m telling you right now, March 18. And, you know, I’ve never gotten stronger as I am telling you, Bill belcheck will not win another Super Bowl as a head coach. He may be
Byron Jones 19:01
coming Super Bowls as Yeah. Six. Yes. He told us. They went to giants that are as the head coach. But it’s but he was still part of it. He was part of those great events if that’s okay, that’s okay. I’ll give it to him. He’s got a he’s one eight, Bill Belichick somehow, some way is going to get back to the Super Bowl and he’s gonna win a Super Bowl before him.
Victor Arocho 19:25
If you’re saying all that, then how do you like Cleveland? Huh? How do you do at Cleveland?
Byron Jones 19:29
He got fired. They got
Victor Arocho 19:38
to say he will not win another Super Bowl. He may he may get to the playoffs. He may win the AFC or something? Maybe not. I don’t know. But he’s definitely not gonna win most football.
Byron Jones 19:48
All you got to do is get
Unknown Speaker 19:50
to get through Kansas City. That’s number one.
Byron Jones 19:53
And we’ll look at Kansas City they got rid of Bolton bolter tackle, they’re gone. So and then you sign one of the sondergaard from New England. I think Tony or whatever his name is they signed him to fix, supposedly the offensive line. But what happened and what you know, in the Superbowl, it was like, it was like free rein
Victor Arocho 20:12
to mahomes I’m giving you I am giving you the opportunity to get me back. Because I am going on the record. Valid check, we’ll never win another supermom
Unknown Speaker 20:27
Byron Jones 20:28
Check. Don’t he’s the mad scientist, I’m telling you belcheck is going to get back to a Super Bowl somehow, some way he is. Because he’s building a top five defense, he’s gonna he’s gonna play, he’s gonna, they’re gonna fix the offense.
Victor Arocho 20:43
I’m gonna go as far to say, not only exactly the winner, Super Bowl, he’s not even gonna get back to the team. So I’m going on the record for today, not getting back and definitely get away, say we can’t get back, you can get a win. So at the other day, he’s just not gonna get it. That’s right. But he’s been spending. So it’s pretty interesting what they’re doing. I just think there’s too much to get through at this point. And he doesn’t have that General. And then the last piece I always want to say, in Nunes defense, because, you know, I was rooting for noon thing, you know, I just worked, but I like the guy. I think he’s got talent. I just wanted to see him do well, you know, it’s just, he’s just one of those players you want to see do well, but in his defense, though, you know, the Patriots playbook is double the size of pretty much everybody else’s. So you know, you can’t just go in there in a year and try to pick that up at the same time trying to develop plays that fit Cam Newton style, right? Because that’s what her every every right great receiver anyone went there other than Randy moss, is that playbook is intense.
Byron Jones 21:52
But okay, we both played football, how many times? Do we go over all kinds of crazy stuff, you know, all kinds of stuff, you know, don’t practice and you get to, you know, get to the week of the game. And we’re going to use them for example, these 25 plays. So those other 100 that you went through, you know, don’t have all weekend like I we only got up to 25 and it’s the same thing. Those guys, the books are huge. I have one of those books, even for the bed that books and books are huge. And most of the stuff you know us.
Victor Arocho 22:28
Yeah, but there’s it’s even bigger. I just say from a quarterback. There’s a difference between, like from a quarterbacks position because what, what made them great with Brady, you know, he yelled, he knew what they were they had to know what they were going to do. So when torello wins went there was it throughout terell Oh, Joe cinco a lot of the players that went there didn’t succeed because they can pick up the offense well enough, right? Hey, look, man, Randy moss did because all he did was run a fly wrap.
Byron Jones 22:58
Yeah, but look what they did, as far as their hope with the win a scheme. Alright, one game, what would they do? They come out, they go run the ball. Right. Next game, they are coming out when they had the two tight ends, they’re gonna throw it at a tight end for dominance. Next game, they come out, they’re gonna throw to the receiver, they more they change with each game, you know, like you’re supposed to, you know, this team doesn’t do this. Well, we’re gonna do this. And that’s why the book is so big. Because they just they change even our defense is the same thing. They’ll come out with a three, four, they go for three, and back and forth. And that’s what makes him know. A great. Well, let’s see, let’s get
Victor Arocho 23:38
on belcheck. Anyways, alright. And then before we get into mock drafts, a couple pieces here is Mitch trubisky. Went to the bills. I think that’s a good backup for Josh Allen.
Byron Jones 23:53
You know why he went there? Because the coordinator is there Brian table is from Alabama, who fix Josh Allen. So he’ll go there one year in fix Mitch and then go on his merry way to SoCal, he’s still young quarterback. He probably thought about going there like you know what this guy is like the quarterback guru now. Now he sticks him. So maybe you can do some for me. So I’ll go sit in here and you know, do my thing and then I’m off.
Victor Arocho 24:20
Got it. And then the NFL. The NFL signs. I got hit NFL signs and media deal worth over $100 billion $100 billion. Maria Maria the new the new deals with broadcasters and streaming services pave the way for the team owners to add a seventh regular season game to schedule and recoup revenue lost and reduced fan attendance in 2020 $100
Unknown Speaker 24:57
Byron Jones 24:58
That’s a lot. So guess what? So when all this stuff is done, you know what the COVID is, and the salary cap will start going back up to where it used to be.
Victor Arocho 25:08
So that’s going to be when they signed it. That’s revenue shared, right? Every
Unknown Speaker 25:12
a part of the team gets a piece of that. Yeah.
Victor Arocho 25:15
Right now, I mean, the ownership, not the players,
Byron Jones 25:18
the owner, but then you know, that trickle down effect,
Victor Arocho 25:22
then they’ll start getting paid. It also helps with those big ass contracts with those big contracts they’ve been signing. Right?
Byron Jones 25:30
I mean, it really got a big use of the off of the tackle from with the 49 is Trent Brown. We think his name is Trent Williams. $138 million for what a 31 year old offensive tackle.
Unknown Speaker 25:45
He’s good, though. That was good.
Unknown Speaker 25:47
He’s also heard a lot too.
Unknown Speaker 25:50
He’s a friend you
Byron Jones 25:51
very, as big as he did. Yes. A
Victor Arocho 25:54
lot of Italians in the NFL. Alright, let’s get into the bad boy mock draft headed by my man Byron Jones. So hold on, pull them up together. Okay. Because I’m going to quit. I know we stopped at 17. Yeah, right. But you know, it. It’s a little difficult for me to just then stop.
Unknown Speaker 26:23
You got this one. I
Victor Arocho 26:24
got this one. Okay, here we go. Alright, so I’m putting them side by side. Right. Right. And so I’m just going to sit some, I’ma take this order over and oh, you know, my, you know, my number and interest is right is the 11th pick.
Byron Jones 26:44
Victor Arocho 26:46
So as much as everybody wants to go past 70 we’ll try to get there quick because you have some changes. Not a lot. Right. But you had us 2.0 had us with the app. You have the vault. I’m gonna start with level. You got devonta Smith at 11. And now he flew to number three. For the dolphins. Why? Because number one and two. Let’s just show everybody knows Trevor Lawrence. Not a problem. Zack Wilson stay the same. But what may devonta Smith go up to number three for the dolphins. Even if it wasn’t an 11 for the giants, what
Byron Jones 27:24
made them go up? Something that they really need? He’s familiar with. Guess who
Unknown Speaker 27:31
is true? Yeah, I
Byron Jones 27:32
found out that they can make magic like they did Alabama and so I figured, hey, if I was picking I picked this guy Heisman Trophy winner, you’re in Miami. He could be the king of Miami. Both of them.
Victor Arocho 27:44
I liked that kid to like just you know, everything I saw about him he’s not that big but he’s done. I mean, I liked that kid. You know? Really so but what changed from last week go like that what you just described was around last week.
Byron Jones 28:01
Just thought about I was like you know what, you know what, once what is a quarterbacks favorite thing something that is familiar with you know, you’re with Smith
Victor Arocho 28:12
because he played and comfort right because sometimes like you know, like, Romo with Witten gronk with Brady you know you know you got that you know those those confident receivers right when when all in doubt I’m going this way alright um let’s say interesting yeah cuz their defense is pretty good but that was that’s what stood out to me. Alright, so we got for
Unknown Speaker 28:39
Victor Arocho 28:40
the carpets where carpets go eat some carpet down God pits went down to the Eagles. And you got the Falcons picking up? a quarterback? Yeah, they need a quarterback but who’s their quarterback now?
Byron Jones 28:55
bat right off the bat Ranga trading is 34 years old. Yeah, you got to look for a future got a new head coach. Sometimes the new head coach wants you to guy
Victor Arocho 29:05
he wants it Yeah. Okay, so cow I like cow pits of Bengal Bengal stay the same from the offensive tackle number six Copics the Eagles was 2.0 and then you got Oh, no, I’m sorry. I’m the opposite. You have Kyle Pitts not going to quarterback he switched I’m sorry. You got called pids going to Falcons for tight end. Right. That’s a good move for i like i like Matt Ryan. I think Matt Ryan is something
Byron Jones 29:34
with the the head coach they have now Arthur Smith is more like a titan got a guy? Yeah, he’s gonna run that kind of offense at Kyle pitch would fit them perfectly figured I still got Julio Jones and they’ll have that other Alabama guy. I can’t think of his name right now. The other one that plays for Atlanta. So then loaded a receiver and give one more weapon for
Unknown Speaker 29:57
Julio Jones. No.
Byron Jones 29:58
Yeah, Julio Jones, but they have one more More of receiver from Alabama.
Victor Arocho 30:03
Holy smokes. All right, and then you got um, why received the geomar chase? Going to the Eagles?
Byron Jones 30:12
from from from LSU? Yes. Because around here the owner the team, Laurie said, we’re gonna go with Jalen hertz. Make sure he has the weapon to succeed. So they’re gonna write they’re gonna ride with Jalen this year.
Victor Arocho 30:30
But I would agree, right? If you can’t ride with him, you better put,
Unknown Speaker 30:33
Victor Arocho 30:34
you better give him some weapons, right? Don’t leave that kid out to dry, though, because he’s got a lot. I personally think Jalen hertz has got a lot of pressure on right so I hope he got I mean hard for me to hope anybody NFC does well, because again, it’s ease but I like to see these young kids do well you know when they get their shot and I hate when I see these quarterbacks that have talent go to teams that like destroy their careers.
Byron Jones 31:00
And that’s that has happened many times. Way too many times.
Victor Arocho 31:05
Alright, so then you got that number seven you got lions okay that status? No, you change lions you give me you’re going
Byron Jones 31:13
offense heavy? Yes. It’s an opposite league
Victor Arocho 31:16
you you just got rid of a linebacker you an offense heavy you got Jason man Alabama stacking the top 10 That’s right. I’m sure my boy Justin Riley and the constant show they’re probably all happy and you know kicking love Well, you got Why don’t go into the lions
Byron Jones 31:34
the other day. The other receiver for the Falcons. Calvin Ridley. The other Alabama gods, right.
Victor Arocho 31:40
The Lions I don’t really care to talk about two lions. Okay, Panthers. Okay. Panthers. Justin fields. Justin fields. All right. Quarterback All right. So Justin fields got back into the top 10 right. Remember they had him lowered in the top 10 for some reason they just didn’t I don’t know what was the deal there. certeyn your team staying the same cowboys? You got them as a cornerback and before you had them getting yet another quarterback? Is that the same quarterback quarterback? He switched quarterbacks on me?
Unknown Speaker 32:10
Yes, I did.
Unknown Speaker 32:12
What makes one quarterback over the other?
Byron Jones 32:14
Because which one I got JC horn that’s Joe horn son that used to play jc horners the newest selection over over Caleb Farley Caleb fighting probably don’t like to tackle he wants to be you know he wants to make the big bucks and just cover people so he’s known for not wanting to tackle this other kid who come up and and tackle somebody who probably would help you know your defense a lot that corners would tackle somebody Okay, and then you got giants flipping over to getting a linebacker is that because of the trade that’s because
Unknown Speaker 32:53
because you had them advantage Smith and offensive players
Byron Jones 32:55
I was thinking I was thinking like this with the giants. If they gonna change again, if they sign this kid golladay there’s no need for him to pick up receiver at the first pick. They can wait till the second round because this draft is loaded with wide receivers. So the waiting for that guy this kid here is multi dimensional, you know he could be the inside backer he can rush from the outside he can get a lot of things that he can do. So this week he’s here but then the other monkey wrench could be for next week is for Sean Sean Slater offensive tackle he can play it all along the line. But you know right now I have him going to the Chargers but that could change with the giants. So you know if they feel the need of receiver they can show up the offensive line with picking this kid Slater and then draft the wide receiver in the second round. The second or third round says they’re loaded now this draft is loaded with receivers. So it might change next week.
Victor Arocho 33:59
Well you know I am I like having defense for the giants. I’m a big, big I believe in it. First of all, I believe in defense being a defensive player but I just think the cab would have been the Giants you know anything anytime we’ve won we were set up with a good defense
Byron Jones 34:16
and the linebackers were always the star linebacker
Victor Arocho 34:21
that’s not true. Now one straight hand play.
Unknown Speaker 34:23
Victor Arocho 34:24
before Him who wasn’t launched a right but but but Harry Carson. Yeah, you’re right. But now you’re going your data. So let’s go to the most recent, most the most recent two Super Bowls we won. It was the D line. And the D no way to say it was the D line and the defensive backs. We were so stacked with defensive backs. And most of those guys weren’t even plant starting because the other guys were better and they were just as good. Come on, Australia’s history him Jason Paul Pierre. Who Oh, come on, man. That line was crazy. And then we won’t want went out straight here.
Byron Jones 35:04
Who else was the glue back there? Antonio Pierce linebacker. Yeah,
Victor Arocho 35:08
he was good. I liked him. Yeah, we’re gonna line back. I’m not saying that you know that just in general but, but that the two Super Bowls we run our line was great both times. And then I don’t know if it was one year both years there was a year that we’ve just stacked that defensive back stack. So when you have a great line, you have a really talented defensive backs that you could just throw five or six in i mean you know you need linebackers Don’t get me wrong, but you know, as a defensive back, I’ll take the line. You put pressure on that guy, I’m happy as long as I can. If I’m getting hit escape through the defensive line, and it’s getting to the linebackers for me to have to make tackles right which I don’t mind making tackles. But if they’re coming in blocking me they’re getting through everybody.
Unknown Speaker 36:00
And you say you might come up make an attack.
Unknown Speaker 36:03
Shoot I hate it.
Byron Jones 36:05
I throw it down the first day from the back I never heard that say that.
Victor Arocho 36:09
So our ad a free safety that we’re doing ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to hit hit but now I was an interception specialist. So you know that balls in the air that bird was mine. There’s no confusion. Sure high school or in college. Alright, so let’s get past that. We got the 40 Niners You got him going. You got him going to the defense back. Let’s get a little bit later down here. We got Rashad Slater and charges offensive tackle. Who’s the quarterback there now?
Byron Jones 36:40
I forgot the one we should have had Justin Herbert. Oh yeah, the kid from Oregon that stayed in school his senior year that giant
Victor Arocho 36:50
like that kid man. Again given him an offensive tackles a good move. Viking taken outside an offensive lineman and then that Vikings and then we made a bunch of trades for them. So we gave them defense so now they’re picking up an offensive lineman right now you got to pay patriots. Now I don’t know when you did this because with the Patriots all the moves that may be a little bit different. No because they got you picking them out of linebacker 15 to dry up.
Byron Jones 37:21
I also Yeah, Camorra Camorra something like that. I will talk more Yeah, he um, he likes linebackers to do a lot of things just kicking cover, he can rush. So they just got back then knowing they used to be with the Patriots. So he came back to Pittsburgh, not me. I mean, the Patriots. So he came home now Calvin he likes linebackers they can do many things. And this kid can do a lot of things.
Victor Arocho 37:49
And if he’s from Notre Dame he’s a he’s a smart cookie dough. Yes. I don’t think everybody can say whatever they want by different schools but there are some schools that you know that those players you know that they’re smart and that that the other ones aren’t is just there’s a little it’s like it’s like the kids that played for algea going off the board here but say the kids that played for john Thompson at Georgetown right those kids all right he didn’t mess around those kids graduated.
Byron Jones 38:20
Oh look at the sound the coach but it was scary. They don’t they thought they were more scared
Victor Arocho 38:26
yeah but still man he had a great he did a great I love john Thompson got wrestling there are recipes but he did a great job with those kids that yourself that he showed he showed how aka you can play and you’re going to get your degree there’s no Can you didn’t mess around there. You’re doing a mean and then off the board there Patrick Ewing did a great job. God bless. We’re gonna talk about that Madison Square Garden. I think it’s funny. Okay, so you got the Vikings there you got the Patriots. Were at the cardones curdles taking a running back from a tease Alabama’s stacking this up. How many of you have from Alabama? Quite a few 123456 that’s just in the top 20 you got six of the 20 Yes. Coming from Alabama. As someone does a good job recruiting there No. So you got the Cardinals taken and Nagi Harris running back that’s a good move. Anything that could help Tyler Murray i think is good move. Right?
Byron Jones 39:34
If you get a screw up a screw him. No more Larry for sure. Oh, probably because they signed AJ green today.
Victor Arocho 39:41
Think you know, man, I don’t want to do anything. That’s the guy waste. I can guess that is one of my favorite players.
Byron Jones 39:51
Well, it’s a done deal with him in cargo land. They signed AJ green. And you know he’s a free agent. So he can either go somewhere else or Retirement choice.
Victor Arocho 40:03
That’s the hard part about the business side of it.
Byron Jones 40:06
Right? It was 18 years. It’s been a long time. But he’s stayed there.
Unknown Speaker 40:11
He’s been loyal.
Unknown Speaker 40:12
Like, you know,
Victor Arocho 40:12
he’s accardo he’s I don’t know him anything else in the cardinal? And He’s a great player. He’s
Byron Jones 40:18
definitely a Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. Because he’s 115 catches behind Jerry Rice. As far as most catching NFL history.
Victor Arocho 40:26
I like him. I mean, I just I just appreciate what he’s done for Lee. I appreciate his demeanor. I appreciate just everything about that football you know, him as a football player and the way he’s conducted himself his entire career and to be that great. Like he’s like he’s a guy wanted to get a Super Bowl for
Byron Jones 40:48
Victor Arocho 40:50
You know, maybe he goes to you know, giants.
Byron Jones 40:54
I don’t think he wasn’t come all the way crossing. Yeah.
Victor Arocho 40:59
I would agree. Alright, so you got the Cardinals day you got the Raiders taking? What’s the idea?
Byron Jones 41:07
interior of the for the tackle.
Victor Arocho 41:09
If it’s defensive, aka interior. Yeah. Okay, so he’s not an edge rusher. All right. So another Alabama guy. I have a Raiders. The dolphins another picked off and they got an edge rusher? No
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Victor Arocho 41:27
an edge rusher. They got a tough defense again, another defensive player Washington picking up. Oh, that’s what I meant. Did I mention him before? No. Okay. Yeah, Washington getting a backup quarterback?
Unknown Speaker 41:44
Why don’t I see him somewhere else?
Byron Jones 41:47
That was last week. He was higher up last week.
Victor Arocho 41:50
Yeah. You got him going down. You got the bears, Mack Jones. So the bears were the bears were
Byron Jones 41:59
that might change too.
Victor Arocho 42:00
Right? Because who still? Is this getting? You know how it how all the quarterbacks was opening up, then now the gap is closing. Right? Well, we’re
Byron Jones 42:08
not going to find Amy Dalton today.
Unknown Speaker 42:14
Byron Jones 42:18
There’s the Wilson know, they kind of go all in to try to get him they know. According to some of the things I’ve seen, they offer like three number one pigs to starters, at the kitchen, the same grandma’s recipe to you know, cheese, paint everything. So they might you know, they did that recently. So they might turn about a weight you know, closer to you know, the draft. It might try it again. But right now, they threw everything but the kitchen sink tried to get him to see I was like, Nope, I now.
Victor Arocho 42:51
I don’t like Mack Jones going to Alabama. I mean to go into the bears. Yeah. I like to see him on a better team. And man, Mack Jones dropped down to 20. No, did you have them hired? It was because you liked the Mack Jones. He was 19 before
Byron Jones 43:11
he went to Washington before? I
Victor Arocho 43:14
want those two these chopped them down? Okay. I think he’s better off at Washington, in my opinion.
Byron Jones 43:22
Yeah, he’s more like a quarterback for them.
Victor Arocho 43:24
Why would you? Why would if I was Washington, why would you take this tray? lance? I mean, I don’t even know this guy. I would say Dre, Atlanta were Mack Jones. And in other words, I could see if they were two different position players. But if you have a chance to take Matt Jones over, Trey Lance,
Byron Jones 43:42
what why are you thinking? Why? Because Trey Lance is more of a multi purpose kind of quarterback where he could run, you know, he could pull the ball down. He can run. He can pass. Yeah, you could do the things that you want your quarterback like a Kyler Murray not like you’re saying but the Kyler Murray’s. And all the quarterbacks that they have now a lot more mobile mag zones is more of a drop back. Give me time and I’ll find the guy open kind of guy. That’s the saying that the other guy is the same. But it just depends on your team. You know, what you look from, from,
Victor Arocho 44:20
from a personal perspective? Well, from a person from a sports perspective, I think he’s better off at at Washington from a fan perspective. I don’t want them in Washington. You know, I mean, it’s it’s unfortunate, but, you know, I don’t want anybody my conference that I’m concerned about and I’m always concerned, you know, I think I have too much light on my face. Yeah. I’m, I’m good. I like Mack Jones and the kids. super smart.
Unknown Speaker 44:52
Yes. Super, super smart.
Victor Arocho 44:54
You got the Colts have to take in an offensive tackle. Okay. You Got the Titans from Miami I write to you. You got Miami take it you got the Titans taking Miami’s an edge rusher. Miami always got good defenses so that’s a good one for the Titans. Titans got to do something man because they just plummeted from last like them in the 40. Niners is lost. You got a Terrence Marshall wide receiver who’s a quarterback for the Jets.
Byron Jones 45:27
Sandon for now
Victor Arocho 45:30
i don’t know i don’t think that’s gonna happen too long. I like to see Donald leave because I think he’s got talent. So you got him as a wide receiver they need something. I think nearly everything it’s just I mean they might as well they need the whole 32 picks. It had bad Steelers you got offensive tackle a lot of taxes. Yeah, the Steelers need the Steelers are interested in UNAMA Ross’s burger, take a cut.
Byron Jones 46:00
Big cut went from $43 million to like 20 like 20 to 23 million, but he’s got his last legs. You know, I gotta squeeze one more year out of them. They’ll maybe I might throw another quarterback but they do have Dwayne Haskins who is going to straighten up everything and he’s gonna probably be the quarterback of future of the Pittsburgh Steelers, because he’s at the right team with the right coach.
Unknown Speaker 46:29
Right? Yeah, I
Unknown Speaker 46:29
Unknown Speaker 46:31
Gotta give some credit to Ben to take that cut.
Byron Jones 46:36
He’s already made a copy of our
Unknown Speaker 46:38
Oh my god, you can’t i can’t i can’t get a pray for you, man.
Unknown Speaker 46:42
I don’t get it. Everybody else will argue get the bag, get the bag, take your money. Go and get your money name get a finally a guy that he’s loyal to the city. He’s gonna play. He’s a golfing quarterback. Right. And he takes a massive cut. He’s got to get some credit.
Unknown Speaker 47:01
Unknown Speaker 47:04
Byron Jones 47:05
Thank you Big Ben for giving back $23 million, even though you probably made 250 million you know, during the course of your career.
Victor Arocho 47:14
$20 million. Man, that’s a lot of money. That’s that’s I don’t care. That’s not fair. Got to give the guy credit. Everybody else is leaving just for the money. Right.
Byron Jones 47:26
And he wants to say he knew they probably would have caught him. They probably would have caught him if he didn’t take a pickup.
Victor Arocho 47:35
Or they would have forced him to retire. Right wondering what one or the other would happen. Yeah. So let me ask you a question. So if they so help me out here right. He resorted 43 million. And so you’re saying if they cut him, he didn’t need to pay him anything.
Byron Jones 47:52
Let’s see what the upfront money got unless he got a signing bonus. Because usually when they sit there and say, Well, you know, I’ll take a pay cut and whatever, and they turn around and they’ll cut their pay but they’ll give them more upfront money. So he might have gotten $23 million
Unknown Speaker 48:08
Byron Jones 48:10
his name Yeah, he’s not he’s not as fortunate as as my other guy that I’d be killing all the time Tom Brady, but you know, taking all the you know, his wife makes four or $500 million a year so so you know he could take a cut
Unknown Speaker 48:23
they signed Brady for an extension
Unknown Speaker 48:26
him another year
Byron Jones 48:28
because you yourself said it was okay.
Victor Arocho 48:31
I listened to her all the time. Yeah, I would listen to her she sees hot fine and loaded
Unknown Speaker 48:39
Yes. Yes dear.
Victor Arocho 48:43
I mean we need to listen Yes dear anyway to our wives in general. But when you got those three features that yes
Byron Jones 48:51
it’s so much easier a lot easier especially yeah baby on the outside there
Victor Arocho 49:01
Yeah, honey, whatever baby with you. Yeah, but you know, he’s still a man he shipped her away for 12 days. He she allowed my man Antonio Brown is I would love to have been a webcam just to watch like this that you did you see some of the cartoons they made? Oh my God speaking today. I gotta show something you said something to me and I can’t find it now. Alright, so you got here jet Steelers. You know Let’s steal the Jaguars. Oh, interesting. So they got a tight end well, they need office because what’s his name is an offensive guy. No, the court the head coach.
Byron Jones 49:44
Victor Arocho 49:44
you got the browns. Get the brown second an edge rusher. Pretty good receivers, anything on beckum hearing anything about backroom.
Byron Jones 49:57
The only thing I’m hearing up here is that The giant fans are clamoring for him to come back if they don’t sign this guy golladay Yes, that was a big thing today bring him back bring him home bring by Vegas.
Victor Arocho 50:14
Oh stand giant me you’re talking about a great court a great receiver who who made his name he made his name in in for the energy giants and it goes to the Browns right with a young gunslinger and quarterback right you can say whatever you want about him but he proved himself right to get to where he took the Browns to right and once all that left was got her that team improved dramatically. I wonder why. Now why would you and then Matt and then Baker Mayfield I think has a lot more power in a huddle than a Daniel Jones.
Unknown Speaker 50:57
Really not if he had a way to to there’s no way that I’m bribed with that then, hey, look, I
Victor Arocho 51:03
want him to do well too. It’s just I haven’t seen it. You’re like I’m not like you know, I just I’m more defense and I want to say quantity come through. I missed that slot receiver. I miss Victor Cruz.
Byron Jones 51:15
They got one shepherd.
Victor Arocho 51:18
That we’ll see. Alright, so we got here you got the Ravens taking a receiver that’ll be good for this kid is gonna shoot up the chart he’s gonna go out.
Byron Jones 51:29
Being from Minnesota, big receiver like six two. I think the other day he ran like a four 340 ti
Victor Arocho 51:37
you got the saints taking an offensive tackle that’s gonna help them out. You know, they’re, they’re sticking with it. It’s interesting that they got Jamison really gonna run that team instead of the other guy Tyler his name taysom Hill tasting Hill. What do you think about that?
Byron Jones 51:55
James had a chance to sit behind one of the great. He had a he got his eyeballs fixed. Yeah. But they said that he was having problems. You know, we got LASIK surgery. They said they said Yeah, that’s true. 30, interceptions, 30 touchdowns, and 5000 yards. So supposedly, you know, he fixes eyeballs, and you should be good to go. And plus, Sean Payton is not gonna put up with that stuff.
Unknown Speaker 52:25
No. I said, here’s a nice option
Byron Jones 52:30
to run the ball to find it. They signed him for big dollars to do
Victor Arocho 52:35
as a backup. That’s what I’m saying. Even Fitzpatrick whoever that guy said. You said he’s been around the league. Who’s the guy that we were just talking about money planning. Yeah. That remember we were talking about that several times on the show. How you know, that’s probably the best position in football to be that backup court
Byron Jones 52:55
$5 million a year. I got to sit there and boy they have a clipboard got headsets now they sit there with a headset and they got the other fancy stuff that you know that the laptop or whatever they got out there they’re sitting there and all that stuff, man by me
Unknown Speaker 53:12
position and you’re not allowed to get hit.
Byron Jones 53:17
In practice. You wouldn’t hear word for the $5 million
Victor Arocho 53:21
clipboard Karen brother for a million you got the bill you got it. You got to Miami guys to edge Rogers from Miami.
Byron Jones 53:36
Welcome this candidate Sacher Rousseau, Rousseau. Rousseau. he opted out this year he didn’t play this year. Okay, and then you got it the Chiefs getting an offensive lineman that’s when he got hurt he could play five different positions
Victor Arocho 53:51
right that’s what you were talking about. Well they’re hurting online anyways, right?
Byron Jones 53:54
Well, they signed the one guy but then they got rid of the two tackles
Victor Arocho 53:58
and the Bucks taken another edge rusher Wow. Deep is gonna be tough.
Byron Jones 54:03
But look at the guy’s name. Look where he’s from.
Unknown Speaker 54:06
Unknown Speaker 54:10
he’s him in the first round.
Victor Arocho 54:12
Did you squeeze out a lot? Do you gotta go?
Byron Jones 54:17
Yeah, she’s that good.
Victor Arocho 54:19
Bye Good. All good. I like to see you tell some guy now I’m a total fan. Hey, so I want to get back to real quick as we’re winding down you know what I wanted to talk about real quick was holding the SEMA show remember when you’re talking about it’s telling you that we were having this conversation when I was on a show for Christmas with a Santiago and several the other players and when they were going well, who did Brady beat you know the last few games that these guys you know beat up Brees and Aaron Rodgers you know my piece there’s you know, breeze truck be a breeze retired. So I go back to People need to embrace those games. Right? Because with a breeze return, you’re not going to see that again. I mean, think about what we were able to see last year. I mean, embrace that. Because now you’re done. Right? You got Brees against Brady and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, there were some great quarterbacks going through going through the playoffs and you got to see them compete against each other. You know, and and, you know, regardless of who you root for so forth. You can enjoy that moment. Because we weren’t sure I thought Brees was coming back. Be honest with you for one more year. Right. And then I had some doubts because it just what is rigged? And is I know how he is with his family because he’s been talking about that for last few years. Right. And I think his family has been putting the pressure but when he got hurt, but I just think as fans, you need to enjoy the moment of seeing great players play because whether any sport you don’t I mean, it’s how no matter how great players were of the past, and and and they were and you hear stories about them and so forth, but there’s nothing like being able to be around and see great players.
Byron Jones 56:15
Victor Arocho 56:17
Right. I mean, because I don’t care how great Johnny Unitas and all those guys were in the past. Can I see them play?
Unknown Speaker 56:27
I did. Yeah.
Victor Arocho 56:31
It’s like the Yankees that same thing with the Yankees, right? You know, catfish hanasi and all those guys play in the 70s and I love Mickey Mantle almost I see those guys play. Right and I enjoyed them I still think they’re great but I was happy to see cheaters of the world the Paul you know I can’t figure out his name but you know the entire players Mariana are there but people should enjoy because you know football’s tough right and to play seeing these guys that great at that age to be playing enjoy that moment and don’t don’t don’t brush it off like a they’re getting old or whatever. Because I think breeze still was a great quarterback right? And he got screwed that one that because of that one play and going into the Super Bowl boy. And he should have had another ball now that’s going to be a mark on him. You know, having one two ball. So again, I just wanted to say hey, fans even enjoy what you see. And whether you like LeBron or not, you get to enjoy what you see. Because you’re blessed to be able to say I mean, I think I’m blessed to be able to see Michael Jordan now see LeBron James being able to see Steph Curry, you know, just just the general like you know, it’s kind of changed because the media you’re able to see a lot better. You’re seeing more players. But enjoy these guys. Because sometimes there’s one there’s like one wanting done guys right? How many football players are great for one season they
Byron Jones 57:52
got a whole bunch up.
Victor Arocho 57:56
And they were good and they were great. They were God Who else was it? Who was the guy from Atlanta I remember him the running back.
Byron Jones 58:03
William Andrews that he did the dance.
Victor Arocho 58:08
Yeah, he was big his big old legs. Um, okay, so we got that in the draft. I think that was good. We got through the whole draft this time.
Byron Jones 58:16
Victor Arocho 58:18
Yeah, because as long as I the giants were doing pretty good. I’m a happy camper. And then Oh, so I guess I’m sorry hold on I want to say so. For our fans out there haven’t seen this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean style. I’m a man by Byron Jones.
Byron Jones 58:48
No sound Oh, shoot.
Unknown Speaker 58:53
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Unknown Speaker 59:07
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Unknown Speaker 59:21
interesting thing I tell you that on Skype when you blow the membrane now.
Byron Jones 59:26
When you saw me You saw the mushroom mushroom.
Unknown Speaker 59:30
like that now buyers Okay, now
Unknown Speaker 59:34
let me show you some new one like that or suits with some inside.
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Yes. But you don’t stop there. See?
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Yes. Good idea. Look, what did you
Victor Arocho 59:56
Why did you sit did we bring that up last week is that
Byron Jones 1:00:00
About four days.
Victor Arocho 1:00:03
Because I remember talking to them about somebody about that. Was that you? Oh, shoot. Oh. Oh, that we were talking about last week. Is that what was? Yep. I was wondering because I knew I was talking about that. Then you send it to me goes, can I talk about that last week? And you say you didn’t see that movie, right?
Unknown Speaker 1:00:26
I just saw it the other day.
Victor Arocho 1:00:27
How do you like it? was pretty funny. It was pretty funny, though. You know what, you know what I always laugh about is with Eddie Murphy. Is I had a lot of people that just Eddie Murphy. I don’t want to point him out. But money does a lot to make a good look. I want to see whether he’s good looking or not. But if you see the old saturday night live shows of Eddie Murphy
Byron Jones 1:00:51
was a teenager when he started when he started on Saturday live at 900 that’s when you’re supposed to look at best.
Victor Arocho 1:01:03
It doesn’t mean it does good. You know I love Halle Berry. attic. She’s the most beautiful one most beautiful lady.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:09
Here we go.
Victor Arocho 1:01:10
Halle Berry is beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Movies. Good man. I love I love that movie. And then you know with the toes with the ladies with the toes. Mary you’re coordinating today you got the Giants on January how like a different pieces on and so forth. Alright, so by let’s let’s we’re gonna be taking this out now. I thought it was good. We’re excited with the draft tomorrow the bracket real quick. What do you think about the bracket without you know these one and done teams. And so I’m seeing I’m doing Gonzaga the whole way. They deserve it.
Byron Jones 1:01:50
They never played anybody toward you know, they played one team, they said that was ranked. So they might be one of those ones that get knocked out early.
Victor Arocho 1:01:57
I think they’re gonna win it all Pro. Yeah, they’re great. That’s a great program. They’ve been good. I don’t care who they played. They didn’t play. They’ve always made it. They’ve beat big teams in the game. And they’ve gotten to the Final Four several times. I mean, God is sweet as the 816 Yep.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:15
How many champions up there? None. Okay, I’ve lost my face.
Victor Arocho 1:02:21
But I understand that that’s why I’m saying now is their time I think because of the game. Everything’s changed and there’s teams they got Liberty University made it that’s a Christian cause I mean, I’m a Christian I’m not saying that but
Unknown Speaker 1:02:37
Victor Arocho 1:02:38
BYU college, I mean, the teams that are in there, you know they owe Appalachian State I think you’ve been there
Byron Jones 1:02:46
that’s cool. I’ve been there I went to that school in the middle of nowhere Boone North Carolina in the middle of new way.
Victor Arocho 1:02:52
I was there I went skiing. Oh man. That was where scares ice Yeah, when I went there boy they got a beautiful stadium though. Yeah, they do. But they’re one double A How do they get in the tournament? If they’re one double A or
Byron Jones 1:03:07
they don’t want a now they’ve been wanting for a while Really? Because when they beat Michigan they weren’t won a they were like one double A or whatever
Victor Arocho 1:03:16
they call it now the FBS or something like that they don’t call it one double A anymore but the bracket here I pulled it up the brackets got an interesting group at Florida State baby I need them to win it I want them to play Alabama. But you got lucky same bottom message back in there. It’s not normal. Georgetown I like for because Patrick you and oh let’s get to that. So we have to go through so Brad whoever rockers is in there man.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:42
Go Are you reg is playing against Clemson mark where are you mark
Victor Arocho 1:03:48
Well, he likes records. Then you say he was a big records guy. Yeah. So he’s gonna be he’s gonna be divided there. Oh, so let’s let’s finish this off with Patrick Ewing. So you did you hear the story about Patrick Ewing and Madison garden
Byron Jones 1:04:02
disrespected in his house?
Victor Arocho 1:04:03
No, they say got disrespected. They get away. You can call it disrespected but I mean, in his house, but all they did was just as they were going through checking him like they were going through the thing. What are your thoughts about that? Because I got multiple everybody you know, you know Steven Naismith. You know, he’s just gonna go off just because he just goes off, but
Byron Jones 1:04:25
how many, seven foot tall guys look like him in the world. They know who he is. You know who he is. And, you know, I understand your you know, this is a crazy world we live in and whatever. But you know who this guy is. You know, he helped put butts in the seats. You know, Madison Square Garden, he does have his number is hanging in the rafters up there. So basically, they should be like, no, come on, come on through them. Just let him go on through instead, I get no, you know, all this craziness. There was no need for that. Now I
Victor Arocho 1:04:57
agree with that. Two things we don’t know story, right? We weren’t there. I agree that I can’t believe that there was an anyone, because the kid that couldn’t have been one person doing that the check, right? I can’t believe there was out of that whole group. Nobody knew who he was. Right. So that bothers me. And you’re right, the seven foot two and all that. But I’m gonna give the other side of the argument, right? At what point does the poor person who are poor meaning in, in wealth wise, but the person who’s doing their job and there’s a protocol to do? Where is the limit? They have to stop and go? do they go? Oh, that’s Patrick, you let him go? And then Patrick, go you and goes, Oh, that’s my team. So let him go. Or here’s the lit like, at what point does a person who’s not making that kind of money have to like where’s the line? Like, to me, that was the you know, I don’t want to blame that person, or anyone there I blame the owner, the management team, right. But you know, if you knew he was coming to play, it wasn’t like you didn’t know who the team is you’re playing in the garden. Right? But, you know, being in a shared, you got to have some, you know, ground rules to say, what happens if you said, Hey, Mike, it’s my team, let them all through, not like the other team.
Byron Jones 1:06:18
I’m pretty sure they went and done that. Where are you gonna say a whole team, but at least you should have got the respect that he has earned. Being a Nick, and doing all the great things he did for years for them. It just led him to a pack monitor, Oh, don’t worry about the team, you’ll have assistant coach, don’t get him thrown that pack going through, let him go sit down, and you’re gonna visit and hang out and talk to people, whatever. But they should have just let him throw. That’s right.
Victor Arocho 1:06:47
I’m okay with that. I just kind of just, I’m just playing devil’s advocate is, is that the person that that ended up doing that I’m sure they got in trouble, right. Um, which which they got in trouble for doing their job. They did the protocol, right. They that’s what they did when they made the mistake is who they did it with. Right? And, but I just did the other side of me. I agree with everything. He says just part of me says look at where where did, where does that line stop? Right? Is it does it stop? Only on him? If that’s the case, then fine? Or does it stop? Because he says that person’s with me? Right? I mean, just just to so many ways to look at it. I don’t like him being disrespected because I was a big, big fan during that time. They practice that my college, the next.
Byron Jones 1:07:35
Okay. Here’s a good one. How many time you work as a bouncer back in the day? How many times? Did you have somebody walk up that you knew walk up to you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Come on in, man. I got you in line. And then he’s got 900 other people. Oh, yeah, he’s my boy. Next, you know, you’re letting 10 other people in the door How many times?
Victor Arocho 1:08:00
I have done it. But I never did it when it was too many people. I mean, I wasn’t playing around like, I’m like getting you to start going to happen, right? You got too many people. I’ll let you in all at a slow let me go here. But I want to let you come in with an entourage. And
Unknown Speaker 1:08:17
same thing that pat in everybody
Victor Arocho 1:08:20
else has said out there. Wait. Yeah, there’s no doubt. Yeah, no, there was a point that that was what I you know, as a bouncer. Um, being a bouncer, I had a different style than than some of the other big muscle guys. You know, my style was I wasn’t there to fight like, you’ve been in these clubs where these guys like, look forward to get into fights, all four of them can jump on and get these like sucker shots. So wasn’t my style. Now, you know, this when I was saying I was there for enjoying myself, you know, and having fun and doing something I haven’t done and Okay, so I hate to fight you don’t hear but so so one thing I used to do, when there would be a dispute going on I’d walk up to the to I’d move one away. The bartenders they like we got along because I helped them right. They didn’t like the other bouncers because they’ll have bounces into anything. They just stood there with their you know, with the extra testosterone and, and so I would go separate them I say, yeah, that guy. He’s a pain in the butt or let’s say some other choice words. Hey, can you get him a drink? Yeah, okay, no problem do me a favor, just walk away. There’s a lot you know, let’s just ask them for men is ladies here is number one, asset number two, I got like four or five of the bouncers here this is where we get paid for. We don’t want to have a problem here. Look next time is one line outside when you see me see me out. I’ll just let you write in boss you want to win lightcycle Don’t worry about the guy. He’s a XYZ, whatever. Now I go up to the other guy. I go I just talked to a guy that guy’s an x, y z. Don’t worry, I can get him a drink. Listen as you’re getting like, I literally stopped all fighting there. When I got there, and then the other bouncers started doing the same thing. Cuz I really really did that’s the kind of fight you want to get into just jumping on something. Yes. Come on, we want to fight the man right but don’t take a cheap shot on five guys on two or one you know? Yeah, why not there for that? You know so I’m really glad I wasn’t there to put myself in that position right or if I had to do something or do something I was also lucky because not only we had other balances but most of my boys were there Benny I had a lot more than bouncers right? Now all my boys were there so you got a big problem right? But you know, I wasn’t there to fight when you don’t want to go to a place with a girl and have fights you know, you know, I just don’t want to do that. So anyways, again, Patrick, you I’m sad. I’m sad that that happened to him. I just feel so bad for the person that was in there. But I blame I blame the ownership and management. I’m glad Pat called them out. And I’m glad Patrick you have one he was the underdog. Yeah. I like to see Georgetown do well and I like to see that it was a holy because those guys produced some really good big win big men were around right?
Byron Jones 1:11:05
Not anymore navigate junction big man. I mean,
Victor Arocho 1:11:09
everybody Yeah, everybody. I mean, what’s his name? olynyk from the Miami Heat sympathize. There’s nothing but three points. Right. She’s three point is I don’t get it. So all right, my man. So let me close this out. like we always do. Check. It was. Yeah.
Byron Jones 1:11:26
My condolences going out to my former coach. He was a deep as a life coach and university tolls he passed away today. Bill young. He had a long storied career, you know, the NFL, college football. Now my plane to Tulsa. No, he did a lot for me. He looked out for me, you know, he was on my butt. You know, he always told me you know that you know, if you work hard, you know, the good things will happen. So you know, my my condolences go out to you know, his family. Yeah,
Victor Arocho 1:11:57
I’m sorry to hear that. God bless for us in peace also, um, Marvin wasn’t a Hagler I went to hagglers past, you know, prayers out for his family too. That’s one box. That was great.
Byron Jones 1:12:11
He still got robbed again, Leonard.
Unknown Speaker 1:12:15
Got rocked against Luna
Unknown Speaker 1:12:17
Victor Arocho 1:12:18
robbed against les Yeah. And then but him and hearns was a great fight. That was a great the greatest four rounds of fighting Bob was seen. So shout out and God bless. To those families. You know, it’s just it’s never easy hold was a coach. 7474 still young? Man.
Byron Jones 1:12:37
Was 66 sorry, Hagler 66.
Victor Arocho 1:12:42
Yeah, big difference from a boxer to a coach. You know, I mean, I mean,
Byron Jones 1:12:48
coach has more strength to deal with people like me.
Victor Arocho 1:12:51
Yeah, but when you’re boxer back, then, you know, those guys went 15 rounds and gloves weren’t as big as they were. And you know, it’s like my dad was a boxer. So we were talking about it and I go, you know, blows to the head and so forth. And that’s true, but you also get kidney blows and think about your you know, as a soldier right and as a police officer, when you go you’re protecting from your neck to your to your bottom right me your shield covers that even during sparking times. Right. You could it was your recall it your extremities or when you call these terminals, right, your everything was here. So you know, imagine getting hit with those type of gloves, 15 rounds on the body and in the thing. I mean, that’s got to take a toll on on the body. Right? And not only is the brain injury and stuff, but it’s gonna take a toll on the body. God bless mama Lee, I mean, he’s, he lived a long time, right? But he just didn’t get hit. Right. So God Bless those guys and, you know, prayers out to the family. And oh, and keyshawn Johnson lost his daughter 25 years, only five years old. So prayers out to keyshawn and his family, man, it’s just this imagining, couldn’t imagine it. So, hey, as we, as we go on that let’s move into, you know, the people that that are first responders or military people that that that help us be able to have the freedom to do the shows and, and to the freedom to play football or sports and, and just live in a country that gives us the opportunity to do the things that we want to do in our lives. I think there’s still a lot of fixing that we need to do in this country. But it’s still the, you know, the best country in the world and a lot of it’s due to the military. So, again, we’re going to talk about Gary Sinise foundation that’s si n i s e Gary Sinise foundation.org freedom and security are precious gifts, that we as Americans should never take for granted, we must do all we can to extend our hands in times of need to those who willingly sacrifice each day to provide that freedom of security. While we can never do enough to show gratitude to our nation’s defenders, we can always do a little more. Gary Sinise, the Gary Sinise Foundation, it’s, you know, think of our first responders and our soldiers, especially during these really difficult times. I mean, it’s got to be tough. They’re still always confined, right? vibrant, you know, the military. So you got, you got things you got to worry about. Alrighty, so now, thank you. You can old please follow us on Twitter at the sports cast one, you could also visit our website at the sports cast that net Join us next Thursday at 8pm. We’ll be getting on some special guests. Next week. We got to put a little bit of time and shout out some of our first mo people let’s try to cut that. It gets hard with the draft and all these pieces coming up though.
Unknown Speaker 1:15:57
A lot of Yeah, get
Victor Arocho 1:15:58
you the draft part is hard. So don’t forget next week, every Thursday at 8pm, same channel, same bat channel, same everything. I know sometimes I’m a little late posting out the event, but we are going to be here. Right So please join in. We’d like to hear you I know I’ve talked to some people get a little nervous coming on the show. We’re going to make you feel comfortable, right? We’re going to just talk sports Have a nice time and you know, we get Joy, joy the experience from a former professional athlete, former military former police officer but particularly a former professional athlete, and Byron Jones. He gave me a different perspective. I know he’s helped me out a lot and a lot of stuff that that from Sports go on to the into your your life. Right I mean, it’s amazing, you know, just business partners and so forth. Always thank fiber for that and, and the Jones family so I want to say thank you, Byron. You know, you I enjoy every Thursday looking forward to this and just remember we got to corny, corny, corny, and you know, it’s nice to see there’s a lot more Italians in the Football League. And no, Allah says please don’t distract red ties with the Fred jeans. So the fragilities in the NFL, and they come in all colors and races right. And no matter if you’re afraid daily,
Byron Jones 1:17:21
we’re gonna call you out your friend, you
Victor Arocho 1:17:24
Good night, God bless. Stay safe and see you next time.
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