Episode #270: The College Football Show with Ty Turner & Nick Rossetti

First of episode of Rossetti and Turner, and they go into college football via the Big 10, PAC-12 and Big 12.

Contributors
Nick Rossetti – @The_Rossetti
Ty Turner – @TurnerCast

Transcript

Tyler Turner
Welcome to sportscast, September 17 2020 if you haven’t yet, please subscribe to our channels, YouTube, Periscope and iTunes. If you’re on iTunes, please leave a rating review. They’ll help us out tremendously. Visit us at the sports cast dotnet also follow us on Twitter at the sports cast. Today, this is kind of my New day, new day running the show. I’m here with Nick Rosetti and we’re gonna be talking a little bit of college football. So neck

Nick Rossetti
tie How’s it going, man really excited to be on with you and excited for the college football season from the SEC standpoint at least is starting this weekend. And then really excited to touch on some big 10 and Pac 12 as well.

Unknown Speaker
Victim Pac 12, big 12 whatever. We covered mostly on my show, we’re gonna try to stay at you know, kind of around the big big 10 Pac 12. When we can veer into other avenues. It’s all good. Um, so what are you thinking about? So the since we brought the subject, what do you think about you’re in Alabama one? What are you thinking about this weekend? Um,

Unknown Speaker
I think the spread is 28 and a half. We cover that easily. I handily we covered the spread.

Tyler Turner
Are you playing it? Oh,

Nick Rossetti
no. And we’re playing in Columbia, Missouri.

Tyler Turner
Okay, it just doesn’t really even matter. No.

Unknown Speaker
Although I do think they are gonna have fans. I know, Bama is gonna have fans this year. I think 25%. So what would that be like? 25,000? No, no, it’s not. And they actually, the whole funniest backstory for this whole thing in terms of the season delayed from bamas perspective is they’ve been working on Bryant, Denny stadium all summer, making, you know, slight adjustments and upgrades to the stadium itself. And this actually gave them time to finish all the projects. So they actually have it done completed. It’ll be ready to go. Two weeks from now, when nm comes rolling in. But so so

Tyler Turner
it would not have been ready

Nick Rossetti
if it would not have been ready. Well, that’s cool. Yeah. I know, some silver lining and delaying my season a couple of weeks.

Tyler Turner
And it’s kind of weird. For me personally, obviously, I like a full partial

Unknown Speaker
season, the full Stadium, I like everything normal. But to get what we’re getting under the circumstance to this year. I don’t know. I’m kind of more than happy as

Unknown Speaker
I’m with you as well, I’m, I would much rather this than have nothing. For a long time. That’s really like back in April. And may if you’d asked me this question, if we’d had a season in the first place wasn’t had no chance, absolutely no chance. Now, we’ve had some hurdles. And we’ve had conferences pull out now they’re back in. So, you know, I think overall, I’m just happy that it seems like everybody’s on the same page now. Or at least most conferences are on the same page that they want to come back at some point. And they’re going to play at some point. Whereas I feel like in the middle of the summer, we were at this kind of Crossroads where some conferences were hell bent on playing and some conferences were held on a not playing and we get into the dynamics of why that happened. And yeah, but but, but now we’re at a point where we’re gonna get a big 10 Pac 12 maybe sec, guaranteed sec big 12. So, you know, I think overall from where we were to where I’m at, or where we are right now, big improvement and just excited that that we’re gonna get the games that everybody was excited to see.

Tyler Turner
And actually the Mountain West probably don’t tell the group did you know that?

Nick Rossetti
Yeah, yeah. Well, I I follow the is the American conference technically. A really good group of five Yeah, yeah. So I I don’t I mean, I know this is the first time we’ve ever chatted, but I grew up in the Annapolis Maryland area. So I’m a big a big Navy fan. Big Big. Yeah, yeah. So I Well, I watched them get absolutely destroyed by

Unknown Speaker
but last week, I know. I know.

Unknown Speaker
But, and I really loved you know what, because it was funny. tickling from the Bama side of things when when the game against USC fell apart and Jerry world there are our season opener. I was really excited because like there were rumors about BYU possibly taking their place. And I’ve heard really good things about that program and some of the things that they were they were doing I have a buddy that actually works on the videography and digital media. For the athletics department there, and he does all their different sports. But anyway, I was really exciting. And they’ve looked really good BYU as overall, the last couple of games that they’ve had, particularly when they, you know, put a thrashing on Navy, but

Unknown Speaker
they did the last two games canceled, right? Because they’ve Yeah,

Nick Rossetti
yeah, they.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, that’s fine. And that’s so like we were we go hunt rabbits and stuff. But even like, now you they’re starting the big 10 in October 24. And people are like, are they going to play enough games? And they’re even saying that about the PAC 12 is probably going to start at the end of October. And I’m kind of in remember, I saw Dan Patrick. interview, Larry Scott and Larry Scott, who I don’t like kidding. He’s a terrible Commissioner. And most people will agree in the backdrop or even across the country that knows anything about basketball. But he did say, Well, he made one point he’s like, you don’t know how many games are going to be played for anyone. So if we get a season off, we feel like we will have a chance to play off. And I’m like, you know what, I have to agree with him there. Because there’s been so many games canceled. Virginia, Virginia, attack, Carolina, Charlotte, Texas, Christian, and was it Houston and we don’t, I mean, BYU said two games Kansas, Memphis and two games canceled. We there could be a team that ends up playing only seven, eight games. If they hold the playoff to the deadline, they might move that because if all of a sudden some of you are getting it canceled, they might be just like I’m moving back and allowing more people to play. But I just thought it was a good comment by Scott being like, you can’t say us plan only seven eight games is not enough. We don’t know how many games people are going to play and how it’s looking so far with all the cancellations. And with all of the postponements. I think he’s right. I mean, I just don’t know how many games people are gonna play. Yeah, because this contract with Tracy is just killing games and big people cancel.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And that’s, that’s a really good point. And since the playoff era, so 2015 till now, the committee has never had this level of, of decision making that needs to be done beyond the scope of just watching the games and and evaluating the different teams that are going to be playing because, for example, Ohio State, let’s say Ohio State only plays five games are six games, maybe out of an eight game schedule. But in those six games, they look phenomenal. Because preseason, before all this happened, you know, Ohio State was definitely picked to do really well probably picked to win the big 10. And to make the college football playoff. So take that team versus, let’s say, Florida, in the sec. And let’s say Florida wins the SEC East this year. And then they lose to Alabama in the in the SEC championship. So they have a one loss and they play 10 games. So they’re nine in one. And Ohio State play six games, they go six, no, but that’s all the games they can have. And you have to choose between those two teams as the fourth team in the playoff. How are you going to do that? Is it going to be they’re going to have to put a game limit at some point in terms of you have to play on a games to qualify? Is it purely going to be based on and the same motto that everybody hates? The four best teams? So you know, I think from a committee standpoint, and if I’m not if I’m not mistaken, isn’t the chairman of the committee this year Notre Dame’s athletic director or? commission of big 12? Isn’t isn’t I thought it was Notre Dame but it could I could be

Unknown Speaker
wrong. I think Dan is definitely on the committee.

Unknown Speaker
Right. Right. Right. So I think that the decision making within those in that room and, and you know, the, the weekly updates that most people just never paid attention to, because they didn’t really matter. They tried to make a big deal out of them. Now, this year, it’s really gonna matter. Yeah. Because every week, you just never know who’s even gonna get to play. And if they get to play, how good are they gonna look, you know, that’s just the step in the process. But, you know, overall, it’s gonna be interesting.

Unknown Speaker
I could see them doing well, if it gets so many people are getting canceled games and it just is so uneven. I could see them actually saying, you know what, the five power five conference champions get in, and then they just figure out the seating from there. Yeah, I could see that being one option. The other option is I could see them totally septembre power five and then everyone is like scratching. Kevin. In fact, I think I could see them totally scratching the playoff and actually just saying, you go with your bowl alignment so like the SEC champion goes to sugar bowl. Yeah, the big 10 and Pac 12. Go to the Rose Bowl Orange Bowl for ACC. I believe the big 12 is if yes the bowl, and then they just take an AB AP declare the champion. I don’t know. I it’s such a weird year. I don’t think anybody Want to say definitively, but if you all the big 10, and they obviously made a schedule, and they have a game starting October 24, plus the one championship game, and then I believe the PAC 12 is going to either be October 31, or November 7, probably a six plus one model, just get the season and get it done. And you don’t know that seven games, they keep on saying patch Well, we’re not gonna think about but patch will probably not. But who knows if Oregon seven to know, and looks really good and dominates everyone and you know, beats USC in the PAC 12 championship. And then you’re all of a sudden looking at a two loss champion, the big 12 you’re looking at, like the other team other than maybe like Alabama, everyone, other team SEC has a couple losses and, and and you just never know it to Ohio State gets four games in a row, you just don’t know what’s going to happen to say right now, definitively if someone doesn’t get going at a certain point, that they’re not going to get it, I think more than anything, you just gotta get going, you have to play, if you’re not gonna play, you don’t have a chance. So like the PAC 12, in the big 10 just, just don’t really, if you’re gonna have enough games, and if that will be enough, just one, and I think the chips will, at that point come up. Or they may.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, and and, and I think to the you know that the scheduling in terms of like the whole idea that as we get closer into the fall and into the winter, that’s the time of the year when flu season is upon us. And that is the whole idea that you wanted to get your season off the ground. Before we get into those winter months, being November, December, January, when you know, flu cases tend to rise and the spread of a viral disease like we have going on right now with COVID-19 is going to increase. So you know, the idea that our guests the the model that the big 10 follow to this point in terms of starting on October 24th. And then ending, I believe it’s the December 12 or December 19. Um, so I mean, to me, especially big 10 schools, right, they are in the you know, northern part of the country, like it’s gonna be snowing in in Ohio in November and vanja in Minnesota. And so, you know, I just all along, I never understood why, like, first off the the idea of playing in the spring, that never made any sense to me. And I never think it made sense to anyone, I think it was a more of kick the can down the road than it is like giving people an actual understanding of why and how and that that would work. And mainly, I think the reason why it doesn’t work is because you’re going to ask student athletes to play the seasons in one year. Like, I just doubt it, right, like, we’re gonna fly in the first place. But anyway, going back to the big 10, like I’m, what scares me is that they’re starting later than anybody else. And they’re the ones that are most affected by weather and cold. And this idea that the the colder it gets, the more the flu there, the disease is going to spread and stuff. And so that’s what makes me nervous about their schedule at the moment. But who knows, you know, like I said it, we could even have a vaccine by then who knows, you know what I mean? Like, so we’ll have to see kind of how it plays out. But I what I wanted to ask you in particular, not to kind of pivot here, but it’s my opinion that the PAC 12 You said your Pac 12 guy, you know, the PAC 12 has been behind in terms of recruiting over the last 567 seasons. And I take that from from personal experience. Well, personal experience being that I’m an Alabama graduate guys like Bryce young na J. Harris. These are guys coming out of California area, Bryce young went to modern day high school that should be USC commit guarantee, every time locked in is no business coming to the SEC, in my opinion. You know, so if the PAC 12 either, let’s say the PAC 12 doesn’t play this year, hypothetically, I know you think they’re going to but how much does that set them back even further in terms of recruiting and where the conference is as it stands in terms of all the other power five conferences?

Unknown Speaker
Well, they’re they’re in a crapload of garbage I mean, worded any different if they don’t play it the revenue the financial the national perspective on it, you’re like you said they are like Oregon’s fine, like the one Pac 12 School Oregon currently has the number three ranked class. They’ve landed in Barrow crystal balls era today. Top 10 classes and one top 15 and they have a top five class right now. So we’re good. I think even if the season got canceled, because Oregon’s kind of an anomaly, you know, it’s pretty much Nike University, it is kind of a entity of itself, I think they will be fine the rest of conference would would would just massively struggle. And the conference is a whole perception wise would just be just defeated. They already got that narrative out there that the West Coast just doesn’t care as much they don’t care as much. They care more about politics and and and it’s true. I mean, I’m on message boards. I follow insiders and anytime you have a take that’s like, oh man that’s weaker than soft on the west coast, take care, okay. And I was like, troll them on Twitter. I’ll be like, oh, they’re big old softie from the west coast. I you know, I’m just kidding around. But the perception out there is not great. And like you said, people are leaving. California last cycle like Bryce young left. You had Joseph Magog, wide receiver, he went out to Clemson you had? Obviously Oregon has done very well, I guess that’s keeping them in the PAC 12. But USC had the number 63 ranked class last year, the year before they’re number 20. And remember their number 20 class I was like that’s terrible. USC, you can pretty much count every year USC through the PKR years even through Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkeesian, you can pretty much count on us. You have a top five top 10 class, and you saw really falling apart the year before. And then last year was I mean, they didn’t get dgd or go either way. I probably said his name wrong. Sorry. I’m trying to think miles moraira matter day. I could go I mean, initiative last chrissteele. Two years ago, he ended up actually transferring back roseboom McCoy, he actually went to Texas, he actually ended up transferring back, but it just has been a kind of a reciprocal thing that’s happened year after year. And even this year rayshawn data says Godwin is going to LSU is in

Unknown Speaker
Korea. So as Corey Forman he’s still the number one overall, right? He’s right.

Unknown Speaker
And there’s pretty good chance he lands at LSU or Georgia, Georgia. That’s

Unknown Speaker
what I heard. I heard it’s leaning Georgia. Oh, man. But yeah, that’s just another example. Right? Like these, this top line guy.

Unknown Speaker
So I think I think the metal is gonna play, I’m pretty convinced that they are gonna play this here. And so they will try to do their best to save face. And hopefully, a The biggest problem in the PAC 12 over the last several years is there’s been a lot of parody. There’s not been that real dominant team. And they need someone to take over and honestly the team that’s going to do it right now is is Oregon, because they’re the ones we’re doing about say that the number one class two years in a row, they’re leading this year, they’re probably going to land or Third Street number one, so they need to almost kind of pull up Clemson like dealio I was gonna

Unknown Speaker
ask you Yeah, I see that. Do you see them having a similar trajectory as what as what Clemson had in terms of because Clemson in the early data years were mediocre? You know, they’re actually people that used to make fun of Dabo. at Clemson people forget that, because they used to blow leads all the time. Yes. First, his first couple of seasons. And then they really started to pick it up recruiting wise, and then they took off. And well, and you know, what really changed face was the shot. Well, it started with Taj Boyd, but deshaun Watson really brought that program into the forefront. Do you do you see that similarly with with a program like Oregon?

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I mean, they’re recruiting at the best level in the PAC 12 by a considerable margin. So they’re going to have the talent advantage. This year. It’s still kind of like I do a teen talent formula. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen it. But I baseline talent them in USC are pretty similar this year. But by next year, Oregon’s going to be definitely number one. And you know, they have good coaches that Andy abalos is a great defensive coordinator. He’s probably going to be upset for some group of five jobs here in the next couple years. Joe Morehead, the innovative offensive coordinator for Penn State he coached at Mississippi State he’s their offensive coordinator. So combined with a good recruiting class with one of the best coaching staffs in the PAC 12. I do think Oregon if this year this weird season did par be the year that maybe they don’t because they had quite a few OPT outs because the season is supposed to end so the last like Panay Solon top five pick, I think jevin Hall and he’s probably gonna leave he’s a number one first round pick. Domino, Lauren Thomas, grab a couple. Starting safeties have started for past three years they opted out so if you’re going to beat them because I think going into next year, the talent advantage advantage and even the coaching staff advantages can be pretty big for Oregon that you I could see them going on a, it’s always tough to say somebody would go like Clemson like run or they’re gonna go like an Oklahoma like run because when the Oklahoma in the big 12 has won five straight big titles they’ve made the college football playoff for the last five years they’ve gone on a very dominant run in the big tall people seem to forget that because they haven’t played very good in the college football for stage and they’ve gotten kind of raised a couple times. But so they could go on in Oklahoma like want to get to that Clemson like Ron, you do have to have a deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Or like I know we’ve been you’re you could come back like well, they had Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray Jalen hertz. Yeah, those are horrible defects. Terrible. Do you have to be able to put together that elite defense to go along with a elite quarterback play and see Clemson’s always a great defenses under Brett Venables? So? Yeah. Jay answer your question. Yes. I think the recruiter good enough level. I think their coaching staffs on a good enough level. This would be the one year that I’d say if Oregon doesn’t win it. I wouldn’t be shocked. But I think going forwards Yes, sir. You’re going to be the best team in the PAC 12. For me, they were last year. And I think of the near future they will be yes.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Do how big of a you know not to just you know, harp on Oregon here. But how big of a loss is it losing Herbert losing a four year starter at QB. They have a quarterback competition going on at the moment. Right couple of guys kind of vying out for the top spot.

Unknown Speaker
And I actually think Tyler shows pretty good. I mean, he played in garbage time looked good. And by all reports by everyone close to the program. He’s a pretty good quarterback. Okay, there was a consensus for Star coming out of high school. There in Arizona. I think he’s going to be pretty good. He is in a battle with Anthony Brown, who was a two year starter at Boston College. But I try to be fair, i think i think i think Tara Jacques is going to be the starter and I think he’s going to be a good quarterback. The problem is it is a totally new offensive line on a receiving core that is talented they have some big four or five top 100 100 guys they have two or three starters back and so they have some experience but they still need to step it up and then the running back that room is bad for the most part so it just depends on how the offense gets to rolling with the new quarterback and the new offensive line new

Nick Rossetti
offensive coordinator to with with whatever

Tyler Turner
the thing is that’s an upgrade.

Unknown Speaker
Actually yeah. Oh for sure he’s better than Mark was aware of the old offensive coordinator was a good recruiter. I don’t think he was a great I don’t think it was a great offensive coordinator

Unknown Speaker
cuz he was because Morehead was sake Juan’s coach, right. But when he had Penn State, and then I never thought you know, I never thought he got a fair shake in Starkville. It’s tough, right? The just from perspective, winning in the sec West, in my opinion, is is the hardest division in college football. And guys like Gus malzahn at Auburn you know Edwards Ron before this last year, like if you go eight and four your fan base is expecting up you know, playoff performances playoff appearances, winning the SEC and and it’s just so hard even when teams like Mississippi State and Ole Miss are down. So I really didn’t think he got a fair shake and start bowl. I saw what he did at Penn State with guys like like say Quan and Myles Sanders too. So yeah, I think he’s a good coach. I just think that, you know, you know, who knows how long he could be in Oregon to

Unknown Speaker
an opponent. I mean, if he does really well, you probably get another job. And there is a difference. You can be a great offensive mind, you can be a great offensive coach, you can have the ability to scheme and play call and not necessarily be a great head coach. So that is a possibility that Joe Morehead is this great offensive coach and not necessarily they’re they’re not mutually exclusive. So, um, you’re but you’re at a point. I mean, when you go to Mississippi State, you’re playing against Alabama, you’re playing against LSU you’re playing as Auburn you’re playing against Texas a&m. I mean, you’re playing against look at Jimbo. I mean, he’s a great coach. He Texas a&m has a top 15 roster as far as talent. And his first two years has been great. And who knows what this year is going to be like he said, a lot of guys opt out. So it’s a tough place to win and you’re living in the greatest coach in cultural histories conference and that’s just an unenviable task.

Unknown Speaker
I think something too and and again, not to not to pivot, but something that’s going to be really interesting this year, I think and this is going across all of college football is coaches being fired and and bought out in their contracts. I think up into this point it’s been guys like it was like, you know, for Morehead like I I’m pretty sure he’s still getting paid for mississippi state law. A couple more years, like sure like like schools were not afraid to pull the trigger and not afraid to ask the donor base to fill in that, that we need a $20 million check to buy this guy out. And I think a lot of coaches that quote unquote would have been on the hot seat this year have now just got themselves another extra year because of their sure the circumstances around the loss of revenue and and schools just not being willing to front the bill to buy somebody else when they’ve got four or five years, you know, still left on their deal. One one funny story I always like to tell is Jimmy Sexton is, is the agent for Nick Saban. He’s the agent for a lot of the the coaches sec. Funny story as well. He was actually Scotty pippins agent who signed Scottie Pippen to that terrible deal. But yeah, yeah, so back in the day, it was Scottie Pippen, the agent, but anyway, Jimmy Sexton, he’s one of my my favorite guys because he is the guy that gets coaches fired, gets them the buyout clause, and then the guy who they hire is his client, too. So he’s on the back end, and the front end, like he’s running on racketeer, but

Tyler Turner
Dude,

Nick Rossetti
I always love telling that story.

Unknown Speaker
You cannot you cannot beat that. He’s He’s like he’s in a lose, lose lose. He’s in a win win situation. He’s like, Damn, farm. I do have I did. So let’s touch on the big 10 a little bit since they’re coming back of what do you think of the well, I want to go into debacle because it was a fast I mean, five weeks of fighting and protesting and people being mad and lawsuits, and fake fake sourcing and real sourcing. I followed the whole drama, it was crazy. Finally, they ended up coming back. Um, wasn’t a good luck. They were on the same page, and it kind of turned into a real life soap opera. What do you think of the teams moving forwards? What do you what do you Who do you like in the big 10? That might be kind of a rhetorical question. But other than Ohio State? Who do you like in the big time? Who do you think could have the level of possible talent to compete with Ohio? Yeah, and I think

Unknown Speaker
I think I’m gonna, I’m gonna go with a team that I don’t think is on a lot of people’s radars. And that’s Nebraska. I really like I really like Scott frost. I like what he did at UCF. And I know people are down on him for the last first few years. He’s been back at Mater, but he finally has his team. You know, any coach that comes into a new program, you got to give them at least two or three years to get the guys that they want in there and get the guys that are there out. I think this is your year three for Scott frost. And I think he’s got a lot of talent around him. He’s got a really young quarterback with a lot of good talent as well. I think that Nebraska is a team to watch out for and not to mention, going through this whole saga, they were always the ones promoting this play, right. And I feel like they’re gonna kind of that’s going to galvanize this, this team, this program, and Scott Frost is that type of guy. He’s a fiery kind of guy. And I really think that Nebraska can come in and and surprise some people this year.

Tyler Turner
That’s an interesting, juicy their schedule.

Nick Rossetti
I did. I did.

Tyler Turner
Remember first James Yes.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I like I’m actually looking at it right now.

Unknown Speaker
So I’m actually that was my childhood team. I grew up in Nebraska fan. I was a fan of Tom Osborne. I was actually a fan of Scott frost, but he’s a quarterback in Nebraska. Right. So and then he was actually the emcee of Oregon under Chip Kelly. No, no, sorry. Under Mark helfrich. She was wide receivers coach undershoot Kelly. So I I agree that I think Nebraska is better. I do agree that He also took a while for him to get his players in there. I do agree. Also, he has gotten better talent in there since he’s been there, his recruiting rankings and such. Now the only thing is I saw that schedule. I’m like,

Nick Rossetti
I know. I know.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I do. So I see October 24. At you know, at the shoe. That’s, that’s gonna be a tough one. But, you know, after that, I really don’t I Wisconsin lost a lot, especially when you are your offense is built around one player. And when Jonathan Taylor now with the Indianapolis Colts, you know, we’ll see how they rebound. You know, they’re always kind of a word of, you know, seven and five, you know, eight and four and a good year team. So, so we’ll see how they do. But, you know, I know and I know we can get to this a little bit later, but with JJ McCarthy Is that how you say his last name, opting out at Michigan. The quarterback that was supposed to start

Unknown Speaker
it wasn’t apparently If that isn’t your McCaffrey,

Unknown Speaker
McCaffrey sorry I’d kind of get them confused. Oh, yeah, so they’re like he’s opting out. I’ve, I’ve never so for example, I really everybody was high on on Josh Gad is coming in as offense coordinator at Michigan last year. I was never high on him when he was at Alabama. Of course, everyone will say I’m salty, because you know, he was gonna we were gonna offer him the job and he decided to leave for Michigan overnight, whatever. I never saw what what people were so excited about. And look at Michigan’s offense last year was that impressive to watch. I mean, I know you had some limited limitations with Shea Patterson but Shea Patterson was a five star talent coming out of high school, if not the number one dual threat quarterback and his class was great when he was with Ole Miss. So, you know, in terms of Joe Gaddis is going to come in he’s going to rejuvenate this offense, you know, it’s gonna it’s going to open things up and and I just didn’t see that even in the bowl game against Alabama. I mean, I just was not impressed and to say that, you know, all of a sudden they’re going to have an LSU like turn around. And this offense is going to be completely rejuvenated. I just don’t see it and and Michigan’s defense has always been solid but not great. I think that the the gap between Ohio State and Michigan has never been bigger. Um, so you know, I really I really think that especially in a weird year like we have right now some of these other teams that that maybe not everybody thinks about but has a solid coach solid foundation and program. They have a real good shot this year at least to make it to the big 10 title game. And and from there, you know, it’s anybody’s game.

Tyler Turner
Yes. Remember? def tear American who was who’s I think one of the best May, perhaps next Justin fields is second best quarterback in the big 10 I believe. It can be His name’s forgetting me. The guy who just optomap is trying to get back in Rashad Bateman. Yeah. If he gets back in that’s the legit NFL receiver. They have some good defensive players. They’re a team that I could see doing. I could see them winning the big 10 West. You know, good coach. I think PJ flag can look what he did last year, he had them Revenant two they beat Auburn in the bowl game. Um, who else would I look out for? I mean, I was as a solid program. There are obviously some turmoil in their offseason and see how they can overcome that. And then there’s Penn State.

Unknown Speaker
So I just got to ask you is what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on the Nittany Lions cuz they got john Clifford’s coming back. really solid QB. And, and Franklin always has them right there. And they just see, like, I think it was that game against Minnesota last year that they lost. That was a that was a real big, big key loss for them. But they seem to always they they win a couple of games that you know, that maybe shouldn’t and then they lose a game or two that they probably shouldn’t have. It’s it’s always kind of a, but they’re competitive. Right. And I think Franklin is a really good coach.

Unknown Speaker
And they’re the only team that I mean, the Ohio State is definitely the most talented team by baseline in my formula, I have them in their their baseline talent is number three in the country. I’m the only team that is even in that ballpark is like I do off the top my head. I think they’re like number 10 with indoor guards in the country to baseline talent, but they are the team that has the horses. They don’t have Mike Parsons he opted out and that guy is probably the best linebacker college football as if they had dirty brown indoor cane is the two really good running backs. They have Pat fire moves who might be the best tight end in college football possibly. They have some, some other good different grime in there. Brandon Smith, who was a former five star, they have Curtis Jacobs, who was a five star by 247 This last cycle so they have guys on both sides of the ball that can line up on a just a baseline talent perspective to compete with Ohio State I think if someone were to be Ohio State, and it’s now

Nick Rossetti
on Halloween now anyway,

Tyler Turner
but is anyone gonna be there

Unknown Speaker
just in that i know i know that probably not. But just imagine though, that is probably if not the number one game that I’m that I’m upset about that there won’t be fans in the stands. Because Saturday night in Happy Valley, a wideout you know that game would have been at like seven or eight o’clock kick and on Halloween like oh my gosh, that that would have been a sight to see for sure.

Unknown Speaker
They could do this with they beat Ohio State the year winner. Yeah, and I think Ohio State actually still made the playoffs. They but Penn State won the big 10 they went to the Rose Bowl and lost to USC But yeah, I think Penn State but I long story short I don’t think anyone I don’t think Ohio State loses. I think they’re undefeated and I think that they will be in position to make college football playoff that is my prediction for the big 10.

Unknown Speaker
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this about another Dark Horse team. What about Maryland?

Tyler Turner
Maryland. Let me

Unknown Speaker
let me say to Talia tagovailoa starting quarterback, he got his waiver approved so he’ll be planning we’re probably going to be starting

Tyler Turner
at Alabama.

Nick Rossetti
What do you want from us? We get too many five stars to come into play. But

Unknown Speaker
anyway, I think I like what I like Locksley like I really do and and, and what what people don’t get what don’t understand is the amount of talent that comes out of the DMV area. Like I would say that South Florida, Texas, California and then the DMV is right there in terms of talent level. You know, you got a lot of dematha Gonzaga high school had the Caleb Williams who’s five star quarterback headed to Oklahoma yep headed Oklahoma. So I think that once he can tap into you being Mike Locksley can tap into that pipeline that they have there in the DMV, I really think they could start getting some talent in there and and and you know, really start to possibly get out of this, you know, mediocre five six wind seasons that they’ve had for the last you know, since since Ralph friedgen was there. They were in the ACC and going to the Orange Bowl. So we’ll see but I did just I had to bring it up before we before we change topics that my Maryland Terrapins I think if we win four games this year, I would be excited.

Unknown Speaker
I mean, that’s not five or four or five, nine games. If I was gonna pick the order, I think it’s Ohio State and then Penn State, then probably Michigan in the east and then in the West. I still am going to take Wisconsin until you kill got knocked him off the perch. I take him and then I probably go I won and Nebraska. I think Nebraska has a tough schedule if they had a more feasible schedule, I think they could have a chance at it. But that’s just my opinion on that. So who would you take to win it?

Unknown Speaker
I’m going with the Buckeyes as well. I think just as you mentioned earlier the talent it’s it’s it’s funny how when we we you know we talked about stats and and schemes and coaching and all this stuff, but when you really just look at roster the roster I bet you that if you just look at the rosters in terms of talent and you picked games based on just looking at the rosters a lot of the time the team with the most talents gonna win that game I’m sure so So in my opinion they are the most talented team by far and they’re one of the most deep teams as well so and I think that day is one of the most well I think last year got a lot of a lot of good a lot of good promising you know noise about him but Ramallah people knew about Ryan day, right? I think some people were kind of like not happy with that appointment after Urban Meyer, that man can coach like he really can coach and and recruit to so I think that he’s he’s, if not one of the best coaches in the in the conference as well. So I’m gonna go with the Buckeyes. Top Five, I would probably go similar to what you said. I would go Buckeyes, Penn State, I’m gonna put Nebraska and three, and then Michigan and Minnesota.

Unknown Speaker
And I didn’t even mention this. I went when Brett were bragging about Minnesota, I forgot Minnesota is actually who I would think would finish second to Wisconsin. Okay. What for a while, they didn’t wait one year, but they’ve won like three of the last four for the last five big 10 last and they just have a solid program. They never have the most talent. They never have the best quarterback they never have the flashiest team, but they’re always very solid, very play great on both sides of the ball. They have solid defense, they have a great offensive line and a good run game. And it’s enough to win the big 10 West has been for the last pretty much last decade or so Wisconsin has been the top to your team there. Um,

Unknown Speaker
no, I was gonna say, you know, we’re sitting here making predictions, but, you know, who knows who’s gonna be playing game in and game out? Right? Like, Yo, I really think that if if it’s going to be a wacky year in which it has been throughout 2020 if this trend continues, I think we’re gonna see a mix up. So who knows, right? Like, I see some wild stuff.

Unknown Speaker
You’re just gonna be like one team that like does enough games. Yeah. Or Or

Unknown Speaker
like one team that doesn’t get any positive tests and everybody else like Like, like, let’s say Justin fields has to sit out three four to write or something like CJ Stroud back there.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Like you just were that could be just yeah. I mean, the thing is, is you think of the good teams like, yeah. Justin fields good, but then you got CJ Stroud you know, maybe Trevor was within the get GG, but are there? Sorry, I screwed them up.

Nick Rossetti
No, I can’t. I can’t say that. Matt Jones

Unknown Speaker
and you got Bryce young. But who’s that team? That you would say man with a quarterback? They are a playoff level team. If they lose that quarterback. They’re not really even in consideration. He has any team that you say if they’re still alive, that that quarterback being out is the difference between them possibly competing for a conference championship among on here? Hey, buddy, how you doing, man? But But who do you think is that team who could compete for conference style possibly for even a playoff berth? But when they have let’s say they lose that quarterback? Yes. Someone they’re not even in consideration.

Unknown Speaker
And and I think that for me, it’s a it’s a team that actually that’s already happened which is pretty interesting. So I would actually go with the University of Georgia I think that Yeah, I would I think that they have easily in my opinion the best defense in the country this year by far. And I think that they have some good skill weapons in the outside in terms of receiving and they gotten some your wide and a deep running back core Good, good offensive line. So overall, I think that what they’re missing is a quarterback. And I think they would have found that with with Jamie and Jamie Newman opting out and now there’s this you know, whole thing going on with with the transfer from USC, I keep wanting to say JT Barrett. But that’s not right. JT Daniels, and there’s also this freshman guy. I think that the University of Georgia, if they had, let’s say, Jake, Fromm for one more year, they really could have made a big difference in terms of where I think they’re gonna end up. In terms of in the sec and making the college football playoff.

Unknown Speaker
So okay, so so they’re back is looking at doing math lesson. Yes, exactly. So you think the so you did also, like there wasn’t necessarily what I asked, but it’s a fair conversation. You think that because the fact that they didn’t get up Jamie Newman to stay? You think that might be the difference? Nothing to do, right? The COVID stuff?

Unknown Speaker
Right? Okay, so to answer to answer your COVID question, um, I would say a team like Florida with college ask, um, you know, just going off the top of my head here, I think that they have they really the Florida Gators really think that they’re gonna make some noises here. They really do. If they’re going to be Georgia, this is going to be the year. And I think that Kyle Trask has gotten a lot of hype. Personally, I don’t see it. I really don’t know where it’s coming from. But I think that a University of Florida would be one. Um, you know, I look at Penn State like Sean Clifford, if they if john Glover can’t play, that would be a tough loss for them. But overall, I think that University of Florida would probably be my pick.

Unknown Speaker
I just had a team and I completely, like, I was like, thinking of it. And I’m like, name some teams. I have a team right on my, like, that team is a team that could be well, there’s

Unknown Speaker
only what like how many teams realistically right now do you think has a chance of the playoffs? Because if you say more than 10 I wouldn’t believe you.

Tyler Turner
Yeah, I mean, you’re right.

Nick Rossetti
Oklahoma.

Tyler Turner
No, no, he’d figure out how to get camp Tanner Mordecai to throw.

Unknown Speaker
I mean, yes. Did they be in trouble without Spencer rattler? But I was thinking specifically and I don’t know if they’re necessarily college football team, but I think they could compete for an ACC title. And that is North Carolina, saying downhill is a really good quarterback. I think he does a lot of things he just kind of has that it factor making plays when it comes down to it. And if they lose some help, they could easily lose to a course they could lose to North Carolina State because their talent level is not sorry. Their talent level is a step below like Clemson Notre Dame and he probably even Miami, so they can’t afford if they want to upset Clemson if they want to upset Notre Dame if they want to play with Miami they have to have Sam house. So he was a guy that I was thinking of. Sorry, first of address. Yeah, right. He was a guy that I was thinking of specifically to That with him on the field North Carolina possibly it could be playing for an ACC title possibly could upset they almost upset Clemson last year showed up with help out him on the field. Big to lose to Duke. I mean, I just think I could see him his impact on that roster. Being depth of that grave a difference Keaton slovis for USC if the patchwall ever gets stick their crappier salt with slovis USC maybe could win the PAC 12 they could definitely play for a PAC 12 title who knows they get lucky to go undefeated to get the path. I don’t know without Keaton slovis juicy might win two games.

Unknown Speaker
What about about sticking in the ACC Ian book at Notre Dame? What would they look like?

Unknown Speaker
book I don’t know who their did their who’s their backup now? Is it did it was the Is it the kid that they brought in this year?

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I’m pretty sure like maybe they’re getting one in this next recruiting class is

Unknown Speaker
a five for five, five or seven. Um, the thing is, the thing is even book is just kind of more of a game manager. When I think of like Ian block or Sean Clifford. I don’t think of them as like transcendent kind of players. They’re kind of play within that system. They’re not going to be the guy who’s makes the big difference, but they’re also not going to be the reason why you lose. I would. Yeah, I love it’s a good book. And Notre Dame without him still is a pretty good team. probably get another quarterback in there to be able to run that system be able to do it the same day similar to Sean Clifford at Penn State. possibly see, I think that even Georgia, Georgia is so talented, actually baseline talent, Georgia as the number one most talented roster in college football. Oh my gosh. Yeah. If you

Nick Rossetti
think offensively

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, that 16 five stars. They have 29 Top 100 players. They have 62 blue chippers, I think 75% of the roster is blue chip, so they could almost have a quarterback beat and possibly match title because there’s so talent on defense. It’s so many good running backs and offensive linemen. They could almost almost but it’s hard to win another quarterback. It’s proven in the college football playoff era you look at the teams that have won whether it be Trevor Lawrence, whether it be Joe Burrell whether it be was for Ohio State Didn’t they have a circle but it was a loaded team but but for the most part and I’ll have it in but it did since then. To Lawrence Watson it’s definitely if you have a big quarterback it’s it’s really is a big difference. So yeah, I when I just think of quarterbacks that could be so good. They could take their teams their conference title, and playoff possible appearance and without them they might not only win two games, I’m thinking of Keene sold as a USC on thinking of Sam Howell in North Carolina and I’m Bhumi chain Daniels at Arizona State definitely not there, but he without him. They’re not a good team at all. So there’s a couple quarterbacks

Nick Rossetti
with Cigna, let’s let’s talk a little bit about about the Sun Devils. Tell me tell me your thoughts about Herm. And and don’t they he brought in Marvin Lewis right isn’t Marvin Lewis, the defensive coordinator? Now? Tell me what your thoughts are about that. Because I’m just gonna be honest with you. I don’t watch a lot of Pac 10 or Pac 12. I should say sorry. Because, as I’ve said, but I did watch the Oregon game last year, and I watched Jaden Daniels and I watched I watched j h throw about three interceptions that were the worst. I

Tyler Turner
don’t

Nick Rossetti
know, worse I’ve ever seen anyway.

Unknown Speaker
Everyone said again, forget it. It was just one second. Yeah, I’m on here. I can’t tell you. What.

Tyler Turner
When which time? Tomorrow? Yeah, I know on my bed.

I have to Yeah, but I got 15 minutes for

Unknown Speaker
sleep. Yep. Sorry. No, you’re good. We can we can always just like call this. We are like 10 minutes, but this is like the time I was gonna say it was a tough night tonight because I had his he actually had a board game. And then yeah, and then I had to come here since probably this time is a little tight. But uh, um, but that’s what you’re saying. I think that sometimes that game was just a bad game. And we just never played a bad game. The defense didn’t play a game. That was not a good performance by Oregon. I think that kind of overinflated. The hype for Arizona State. Arizona state’s roster is not even really a top 25 roster. It’s number when it comes to baseline talent. They’re like number 28 in the country. Um, they you know, Jane Daniels, he can do some good things. He wasn’t Number one dual threat quarterback coming out of high school, but then they don’t have a great offensive line. Their defense is erratic. They have some good D backs, but they don’t have a great D line. They definitely have holes on both sides of the ball. If Jaden Daniels plays to the level that he can add to the derby as sure in a PAC 12 that’s not very strong. I could see Arizona State possibly at least make it into the championship game. Maybe winning it, perhaps I don’t know. But I do not think that they have a roster that is really capable of competing for a college football playoff spot, let alone really having even a snowball’s chance in hell anyway, national title.

Unknown Speaker
I just I love the feedback. I just always thought that was like one of the weirdest hires I’ve ever seen. Like that. That, to me, at least made no sense. But then I watched them last year and I was like, I guess he could still coach like and obviously can recruit.

Unknown Speaker
He’s not done like Arizona State has been because I bicker with Arizona State fans a lot. Because like, Oh, we beat you guys. I’m like, okay, Arizona State I think has had one top 10 finish this century. And I think they have had they have not they’ve won one share the PAC title 12 title deed back in 2007. But for the most part, it wasn’t to say it has not been really relevant for the last dissenter, the June since 2000. So he’s done as good as anyone. He’s done better than most sees that, you know, at one than eight, nine games. He’s recruited pretty well. He’s gotten a guy like JD Daniels. So yeah, firms done better most I do not think that they’re, they would have to get immensely better to be competing on a regular basis for Pac 12 titles, and more immensely better to really have a chance of the national stage in like a playoff.

Unknown Speaker
And then just let’s keep it in the same state there. Kevin sumlin. And Arizona. hasn’t been great, has not been great. So tell me a little talk to me a little bit more about you know, what are your thoughts on on Arizona this year or just in general the state of the program?

Unknown Speaker
I think Arizona is we’re seeing the actual I think they have the least talent in the of any team. I don’t think they’re good anywhere I think their quarterback is is probably the best position grant Godot but I think for the most part, this is a team that, you know, just doesn’t have any really top tier offensive linemen definitely have a very weak D line. Their best player was calling schooler and he transferred out to Texas Tech actually Brendon score transferred to he was a former doc he transferred Arizona he ended up transferring to Texas he caught a touchdown there bang on against UTEP so

Nick Rossetti
like Barnett, jumping around

Unknown Speaker
all over the three schools like a year. Um, it No we’re not. And I think he’s having someone that’s a coach that’s really on the hot seat, and probably has his butt saved because of the whole probate pandemic. I think you’d be fired after this year but probably won’t be fired. But I know Arizona, I think it’s between them in Colorado and I probably get the edge right now to Arizona.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so speaking of Colorado, Mel Tucker one year out or was that a pure money move? You think?

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it’s big. 10 Big 10 pays better for stability.

Unknown Speaker
The ambience of a Michigan State weather and then compared to a Colorado Boulder team. That’s Yeah, you know, this is

Unknown Speaker
crazy because Colorado back in my childhood was one of the powerhouses in college football, right? When I grew up in that Cordell steward Michael Westbrook and Rashad Salaam who’s dead now breastpiece and rake Ruth which prison rescue like did so many like really good guys these want to share the national title in the late 80s. So they have fallen on tough times and yeah, they’re they’re not a good team they’ve called around he was at UCLA got fired was ever good there. And overall, there’s they’re gonna just have a tough season shortened season, but whoever they play, they’re gonna probably not do very well.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, they have a they have the Alabama transfer the guy who just

Tyler Turner
started off

Nick Rossetti
Yeah, yeah, stop. Oh, no. He’s reinstated again. Yeah, yeah, he got reinstated again. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is alpha? Yeah,

Tyler Turner
it was the number one player in the nation like rice on sports

Unknown Speaker
and and literally just one day decided I’m not gonna go to practice anymore. And, and I think that Well, I think too, it’s, you know, and that’s, you know, going to the Alabama thing, and that’s a discussion for another day. But, you know, I think that and this is a question. I love To hear your opinion on about, do you think recruits nowadays, they don’t feed off of like the hard, hard ass kind of style of coaching. You think that you’d rather like for example, prime example that I always use or and I know that that Clemson uses this in the recruiting room is that you’re going to have fun at Clemson, right? Like, like, like Dabo is not gonna gonna be good in your face, you know, he’s not going to, you know, really, you know, be a hard ass on you and save it. It’s kind of the exact opposite of that. So, you know, what do you think of as as the recruiting style like, is that something that kids these days, just, you know, they’re they don’t tailor well to that type of coaching anymore? Or do you think it’s still people are, you know, that brings out the best in people when you’re hard on someone like that?

Unknown Speaker
Well, it’s hard to go against Nick Saban. He’s won five national titles and he’s won sex he’s won five Alabama, he continuously year after year lands number one or number two or number three class in the nation. So whatever he does, he does pretty well. But there is an element of this generation needing more of like a hopeful kind of upbeat I’ve actually read an article recently on it, I forgot where I saw it, but they want soap and they want to know that they’re wanted and they want to be the focus being on like positivity. And you see good recruiters guys like $1 Sweeney or tomorrow crystal ball or, or Ryan day do seem to agree. more of that ilk in bed, Tom Herman to be more of that ilk. Lincoln Riley, I’m just trying to think of everyone, the the newer generation of coach, and they’re like the guys in their 30s and 40s. PJ flack. I’m just sorry, I’m just naming names. They are more of that positivity hope. I’m like, social media like means and you definitely do see that kind of vibe going out there with the more newer generation coach, as opposed to you know that Marty and Tony are that Nick Saban? Or you can consider Jim Harbaugh a little bit kind of a throwback, but he also is a little bit of a goofball himself. So yeah, I think it’s moving in that direction. And I think the younger coaches definitely seem to be more there was like something like PJ flack is like a almost a positive thinker, Coach, you know, it’s like, oh, you can be what you want to be right. I kind of like copulation and I saw Yeah, to answer your question. Yeah. So do you think it’s kind of move in that direction, as opposed to the like, the disciplinary and the Talas, Osborne’s Nick Saban’s? Bo Schembechler so Woody Hayes? Yeah, I think it’s moving a little more that direction.

Unknown Speaker
Right. Okay. Yeah, I just thought that that’s gonna be an interesting dynamic as as, particularly with this recruiting class, too. And speaking of recruiting you, they figured out what they’re gonna do, are they just not going to do the early signing period? Because Oh, they are still so you’re gonna you’re gonna be playing games. The big 10 is going to be playing games, the PAC 12 theoretically playing games, and then midweek you’re going to have to do a national signing day early signing day. Yeah, you’re gonna prep for a game. That’s, that is nuts. To me. That is crazy.

Unknown Speaker
That’s crazy. I know that and. And not only that, why did all my people

Tyler Turner
have all these games getting canceled? Yeah, you push them back? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker
didn’t push them back to December 12. I think there isn’t ACC title already being pushed to December 12. Or 19th.

Nick Rossetti
Yeah, something like that.

Unknown Speaker
So so they might all be playing during Signing Day. Like, why would you not just

Nick Rossetti
push it, but just make it back to February? How?

Unknown Speaker
Well because I think the kids want the kids want early enrollees. Kids, that’s the thing. It’s for the kids, which if you know, you’re gonna get someone like these guys, like, Hey, I’m signing that day. And you’ve already put in the work. Like, for instance, more crystal ball. He hasn’t been having to prepare for games. He has a class right now big of 21. Guys, he could sign his class now and it’ll be a top 10 class. He wouldn’t even have to get one more guy. As long as he gets every committed guy to sign he has a top 10 class. And that’s kind of how you like Nick Saban right now if he saw it has everyone signed that he has committed he has a top five class Ryan day he has a top five class so they got these guys in the boat. If they can say hey, you want to sign signing come right in and come out here January 1, they kind of got like, but the people that are like kind of a little behind the guy people that are not having as good a class as maybe like a Penn State, a Texas a&m and Auburn. Yeah, they may be trying to float people a second there. They’re kind of on that like Well, are you sure engineer mind while they’re having to play games, and that’s kind of an unenviable situation. So it definitely is nice to be Mario crystal ball drying day, Nick Saban, you know, sitting there with classes being like, hey, as long as I can just let the guys know, I’m here you guys, you’re committed to me, let’s get this done. They can least add a little more easy transition through the cyber

Unknown Speaker
and and to that point. You know, how much do you think not being able to have spring not being able to have that the ability for recruits to come on campus this fall? How much is that going to affect? signing day people flipping or this class as it moves on, let’s say in two years like of people transferring because for example, I know Tennessee Tennessee took a bunch of kids that have never even been to Knoxville ever. I’m not knocking Tennessee’s class that, you know, they came to Alabama and they saw outside linebacker that was that was really highly recruited. But but I’m just saying like, overall kids that can’t eat that can’t visit. They’ve never even been to the school before. And then they commit, they get on campus and they’re like, wait a minute, this is not what I want. This is not what I was, you know, told in my experience was going to be and I know they’ve done like, virtual tours and all that stuff. But it’s hard to really grasp, like when I was looking at schools, right? Like, I didn’t know what I wanted it until I stint like I was there like, so how much do you think that’s going to affect people flipping or, or, you know, in two years from now, let’s say like, does this class become the most transfer of all classes ever? Or something like that? You know, how do you play that dynamic? Well,

Unknown Speaker
I heard Greg begins. You have Rick begins. He works for 247. Yeah, the main expert out west, he think Well, at first like I’ve ever Barton Simmons, he’s the director of recruiting for 247. And they were like, they thought emigrate, human Trey, Trey Scott did a episode may said and but Elliot’s trescott. But Ellen Barton Simmons for 247. And they said they think this is going to be the most flips of any cycle. There’s gonna be more steps, but they weren’t dissipating things opening back up. They were anticipating, like official visits may be happening in September and October. But the NCAA just came out and said until the end of the year, there’s no visits. So I saw begins and they said no, because of that, people are probably just going to have to pick a school site and seen they maybe will take a trip on their own dime to the town to check it out. Just maybe see the school on their own dime, it can’t be official. Um, but yes, he did actually say just what you said he thinks it will be one of those things that people go there. And a year now they’re like, man, I don’t even like this town. And he thinks it’s gonna be a high transfer class. And anyhow, you have a bunch of guys keep an eligibility this year, because no one loses eligibility. So in general and put this, so next year, you have your 85 guys plus the seniors, but then you have to get back down to 85. Guys. So, in general, I got a feeling Yes, what’s gonna happen is you’re gonna have guys come in, and they’re going to decide, and I think you’ll have coaches realizing it’s not and realize they have to get down. And they’re like, you I it’s not a good set. Sorry. And so I think there’ll be a lot of coaches that will be more willing to say, Oh, you can get an immediate waiver somewhere else. Because you know, that really causes the student athlete problems for getting immediate eligibility is usually the coaches don’t allow it. They’re like, Oh, dado, sign off on it. So then they have to go to the NCAA to appeal a waiver. I think you’ll have coaches that be just like, you know, what, you didn’t get to visit you came here and you realize it didn’t turn out for you. And that’s unfortunate. So I’m going to sign off and you can then go play somewhere else. So yes, I think that’s what happens. I think it goes we have crapload transfers. Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker
And you and you just brought up a really good point is the the idea that you’re gonna have to get back down to 85 scholarships, or whatever it is, and, and for teams like Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma LSU, there’s a natural turnover, because guys just go pro early. So you have a ton of juniors that are going to declare and stuff like that. But for schools, like let’s say, cow, right, cow, those guys, like their average scholarship, their player is going to stay for four years. So when you’re going to have to get back down to 85 scholarships, and you want to take a recruiting class of 20 plus players, the numbers just aren’t going to even out so and in turn, that’s going to either hinder your recruiting because you’re gonna have to purposely limit yourself, or you’re gonna have to tell guys like look, you can either transfer or, like, I don’t know what we’ll figure something out.

Unknown Speaker
I think that’s what’s gonna happen with a lot of so obviously, the guy’s a senior, so he would have been a senior This year, and he’s coming back next year unless it’s an injury. Um, you would have to think, why is he coming? So let’s say a guy’s but he’s probably if he’s good enough to be, if he’s playing as a senior, he’s good enough, he’s probably played enough college football to go to the NFL. Correct? Right. If a guy’s wanting to come back for an extra year, he’s probably not good enough to go to the NFL. So if he’s playing for those top tier schools, they’re probably going to be telling him to go elsewhere. Because it cuz you think about it. They’re, like Alabama, if a guy’s wanting another year, and he’s already what played what would have been a senior year, but because he did lose his year of eligibility, he’s obviously not good enough to go to FL. So then, I think because like, well, we’re probably not gonna players next year. And so he probably will organically move guys out, they’ll probably be pretty simple for the, for the better teams, you’re right. for the, for the lesser teams there. They can’t, maybe that guy is good enough. Maybe he’s good enough for them. So it is, I think it is COVID. And all of this that has happened. Probably the end of not being able meaning like not being able to get official, all it’s gonna end up happening is people are just gonna say, Well, I have states good. Well, I think Alabama is gonna be the best team out there. I think all of us and the good teams are just gonna get there guys anyways, and it’s gonna become less, it’s gonna become more and more, the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. And that’s what cause football has really become, it’s gonna become more that way. There’s gonna be like, like you said, 10 teams, it’s gonna be like Sunday. It’s like, Oh, so we’re gonna be these five teams, and it’s gonna be one gene for every conference, and everyone else is just to be like, well, maybe something crazy happens like the quarterback guys the night before, because it’s just Yeah, you’ve seen it this year seen, you know, the classes, like, I’ll say, number one, Alabama, number two, Oregon number three. And then number four is Clemson. Number five, LSU. Number six, Georgia.

Tyler Turner
This is the best teams.

Unknown Speaker
So it’s like, they’re gonna be good again, and they’re gonna get all the guys again. And even though they’re not good people on official visits, they’re still going to get them. Now, it’s changed their world. So yeah. It’s gonna be interesting to see what happens.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so I know, because I know we’re, I think we’re almost at time, right or like that. Before we jump off. I just want to ask you one question, because I love hearing what people’s opinions are about it. Are you for or against playoff expansion?

Tyler Turner
This year?

Unknown Speaker
Let’s go with in general, in general, kind of

Unknown Speaker
like how it is I grew up in the bowl era, I grew up in the bowl coalition. I then went to the BCS and I always thought a 14 playoffs to give the four just expanded it a little more. I don’t cause football the way it is I love the dynamics of are they in Are they out? And it’s always kind of been like that. And back in the day. It was like, Is it gonna be a shared national title? So the fact we even got to here is good. No, I don’t want anything different. But this year, yes. Because it’s just not even at all right, nine games, 10 games, 11 games, five games. So there’s, it’s not like, Who’s it? Well, let’s say less, it’s good that they’re six? No, I think they’re better than Georgia attended to. But Georgia played 12 games and Dawson. That’s just kind of one of those. It’s like dumb, it’s like, well, because Ohio State’s conference thought it was a good idea to postpone the season. Right? So but they were clearly a really good team, they have a ton of talent, it’s really good. Plus, he can possibly win it all. You know, in a year like that. I just think there’s too much up and down that I think this year to say all the power fives and maybe even because you need to 16 possibly do a 16 playoffs and maybe the top rated group of five and just say hey, this year when your conference went by five you’re in the best group or five team you’re in and because there’s no really no other way to do it. So yes, this this year, I would wouldn’t mind but going forward so are you

Unknown Speaker
I I’m with you 100% I think expansion makes no sense. from any angle that I’ve ever heard. It doesn’t make any sense to me. And it doesn’t matter anyway because they signed what a 10 year TV deal so they’re not changing anything until that tv deals up anyway. And that’s we still got six more years of this, I think with the with the TV deal, so I have yet to hear One aspect of it that that makes sense except for teams whining when they don’t get in. And and

Tyler Turner
this year,

Unknown Speaker
this year, I think just for normal, I like to try to keep it as normal as possible. Just keep it how it is. I think if you were going to get creative, this would have been the year to do it. But like, there’s already so many wrinkles. And like, we’re just now at the precipice of getting all the power five back in to even playing. So I think I know, I know, hold our breath. But just to add another layer of like, making the playoff some type of you know, like, like, I just don’t think the college football world, both the powers that be and the fans can handle another wrinkle to this whole thing. So let’s just keep it how it is and play it play it out.

Tyler Turner
We had a good conversation. We kind of were Yeah, we’re all over the place. We had to find out today.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so we’ll probably be doing this price the flexibility to everyone associates out there. But we’ll be doing this as as much as possible during the college football season in particular. And we actually have games this week. We have the SEC. Alabama playing Missouri we have you know, you have Texas play in Texas Tech. TCU against TCU versus Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Yeah. So I mean, you did this week you have up you have a good site. This is the first week. Let’s be honest, no one gets that fired up about Texas State versus Texas, San Antonio, or Navy versus BYU. I mean, you’re trying to talk people in them. It’s like, Ah, it’s just not quite, but this week, you actually have the SEC plane, you have sad big 12 matchups, you’re getting better in the ACC. So you’re starting to see better games and it’s starting to feel like a typical college football season as much as you can through this crazy, crazy year. So Well, again,

Unknown Speaker
before we get off, what game are you most excited for it this weekend?

Unknown Speaker
A good question I’m trying is a top 25 matchup this weekend.

Unknown Speaker
Ah, because they just updated the rankings. I don’t think so.

Tyler Turner
So okay, hold on. Let me give you this answer. So

schedule.

Unknown Speaker
This weekend, if I haven’t worked out one game. Oh.

Unknown Speaker
The leader of a leader in the clubhouse. See from the look of it. Well, those calls are pretty far there’s always extra fun. Because like armies in the top 25 Right, right. Right. Right. Right. That’s right. And okay, I would say Kentucky versus Auburn.

Unknown Speaker
And because this seems actually could both be in the top 500 actually possible that could be I think Kentucky has gotten really good under SERPs. I think they have a good team I think they play good solid football I think they’ve kind of seamless Wisconsin nation in the or something similar to that like in the in sec. And then Auburn is I’m not the biggest Patrick Knicks fan. I’m broke sorry Patrick is dead a bonus fan but I you know he was highly touted he’s Sunnyside legacy and and i think Auburn still has good talent there. They’re still a top 15 roster. So I like that game. I think you’re gonna take Auburn but I wonder if because Joey

Unknown Speaker
gatewood waiver has yet to be approved. Ah, yeah has not been approved yet. So that’s gonna be interesting to see if you know maybe who knows midweek he gets approved and then it’s Joey gatewood versus bow next on Saturday. How crazy

Nick Rossetti
Carrie Wilson Yeah.

Unknown Speaker
Okay. And he’s arrogant. He was an arrogant guy. He came the same year as Justin Herbert.

Nick Rossetti
Really? I did not know that. Yeah.

Tyler Turner
Barely when you run into Justin Herbert you probably

not gonna play this.

Nick Rossetti
But look at him now look at

Tyler Turner
Evanson.

Unknown Speaker
I was dramatically impressed except for the except for the scramble. You’re looking at the sticks, right? Like literally

Unknown Speaker
gonna walk to it and decide to do a 50

Nick Rossetti
yard just nonsense like,

Tyler Turner
the thing is, is fast. He’s like a big fast Dude,

Unknown Speaker
this camper, this camper in the Rose Bowl was

Unknown Speaker
20 yards. I’m like if I could see like Tom Brady throwing it or maybe like, you know

Unknown Speaker
jameis Winston like Germany’s water faster coolness manifold, run it there. But he was he was good. I was impressed. I really was impressed.

Tyler Turner
And I’ll say so

Unknown Speaker
best but I was always the same about Justin Herbert when it comes to physical ability, the ability just a big, strong armed athletic guy. I mean, I he has every tool in the world, the only thing that I ever had was this consistency just right inconsistent throughout college. And I said if he can get someone to mentor him and to just like, hey, make him be consistent and make him just kind of relax, like sometimes he would tense up and you’d almost seem frozen. If someone does relax them and just just go play just even that was dumb, but it’s like whatever, at least who is like making it happen. I think bringing that out of them will be the best for him. And I think you’ll see him have a

Unknown Speaker
one on one a quick trivia question. Sure. Justin Herbert’s quarterbacks coach at what the Chargers, you know who it is

Tyler Turner
a pepper Hamilton,

Unknown Speaker
Pat Hamilton, who was the head coach of the DC defenders, rim. fl

Tyler Turner
rip. It used to be offensive coordinator for Michigan. Right,

Nick Rossetti
right. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I did. I mean, this has been fun. Yeah, it was Eddie and Turner.

Unknown Speaker
Nick, Nick and Tyler. Yeah, we’re gonna come up with something. But yeah, it’s a next week. Next week. We’ll talk about that. Well, apparently I could talk at a time but we really mean we probably should touch on it. Yeah, I mean, I tell the big 10 attacks while we’re playing what we let’s touch on. Yeah, touch on Bama and taxes, whoever, just like click on all the games until our conference starts kicking into gear. And you’re gonna have to because we’re gonna be covering Pac 12 you’re gonna have to watch Pac 12 I know I’m

Nick Rossetti
not to stay up late past

my to do this.

Unknown Speaker
It’s too hard to watch the big 10 is get up at 11 their games are on. Yeah, yeah, that was a war. So

Tyler Turner
I did I man Have a good night. I said hello.

Yeah.

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