Episode #306: PAC-12 Begins this Week | The Tyler Turner Show

In this episode, Tyler Turner previews the PAC-12 which this week, and recaps this past weekend’s BIG 10 games.

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Tyler Turner
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This week

Tyler Turner
is going to be mostly centered around Pac 12. Pac 12 preview.

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I’m going to talk about

Tyler Turner
all things back to all but mostly I’m gonna talk even specifically in the PAC 12 ergodox. Baby they start this week. Um, but I am going to go over the big 10 schedule. I just want to kind of go back talk about the games that happened. Give you some thoughts of what I think about big 10 season through two weeks. And

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so that’s about

Tyler Turner
Nope, that’s the wrong one. Okay, um, Picton schedule. Sorry. I’m doing that unplugged pulling up the game. So I gotta go through every single one. I’m there two weeks into the big 10 schedule. So far, it’s been said a couple notes on the big 10. I would say specifically for Won Ohio State was predicted to be the best team in the conference. I don’t think there was a lot of argument against that by very many people. They were a preseason top five. They’re a team that people kind of had already pegged into possibly being. I mean, probably being a college football playoff contender. They made the college football playoff last year they have one of the best quarterbacks college football and Justin fields everyone was talented roster so I think it was kind of just people expected Ohio State to be good and through two weeks,

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they’re pretty good. I mean,

Tyler Turner
they were pretty good. I have no flaws no but two weeks weird season gs 10 was canceled there for a while. So for them to get back together and look pretty sharp I think says a lot was the kicking game I kicker with a couple 20 yard field goals. I that part of my nice little work. The defense had a few moments and past defense to give you some big plays the other day, but give it to Penn State and say as my athletes on that side of the ball. I’m definitely the first game on the cover Penn State. Ohio State was probably the Game of the Week college football game day was there as primetime game on ABC, I thought was pretty good matchup. On paper. I thought this is the toughest matchup for Ohio State and says I think the second most talented roster in the in the pack in the big 10 when I did my positional ranks I had Penn State finishing second now there is a one caveat right before the season, I thought that the best running back room in the big 10 was Penn State then dirty Brown is out for I believe the season. And then immediately after that after the first game in the first game, no cane got injured he’s out for the season. So down your top two running backs in a wall we considered that one of the best running back rooms in in the big 10 and as you can see that could really really see that in the game. That’s I just had trouble running in trouble really doing anything on the ground and it really kind of they kind of forced him to pass and Sean Clifford the first half really didn’t do anything. He he was not accurate. He could get the ball down the field. He struggled immensely now. I will give it to him. Second half. They’ll always see I can’t think of his name right now. He was used to do see at Minnesota and he headed off to Penn State he was able to dial up some pretty good place that was able to end that Dotson that young wide receiver for Penn State did some amazing things made some amazing catch made a crazy one hand catch get shot away for a touchdown. And they were able to generate a little bit to the air. I’ll say my taking the pedal off to about like the fall off the pedal a little bit and didn’t seem quite as dialed in defensively, but give it to Penn State kurzrock that’s the name of the off grid and he did a good job the second half. First half, he kind of tried to run and unfortunately missing those running backs. They weren’t able to beat them at the line of scrimmage they couldn’t run that force Clifford to pass and Clifford was getting pressured Cliff rivers missing passes guys are kind of trouble getting separation they really didn’t do anything I thought when it was after I’m 21 to six they were really lucky was that close when I see Mr. nizi field gold Pentagon I got a break at the end was able to get a lakefield Gold but I the first half is very much dominated by Ohio State It was like 282 yards to like 82 or something it was very one sided second half was a much closer half and I would say pretty much even but they were so thoroughly dominated the first half made such significant lead is almost impossible for them to get back in the game. So how say wins are the rest of Ohio State schedule? You know Rutgers is better they’re not going to be to Iowa State of Maryland book good they’d be Minnesota but I still think there are several tiers below Ohio State. um they play Indiana now that is probably

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gloomy luck.

Tyler Turner
Well there’s Michigan they play Michigan Illinois they’re going to destroy them try and quickly go through Michigan Michigan State one I saw it I would say I mean yeah Michigan you have the right answer every game that Ohio says dominate for the last several years but this century basically but I still you know they still probably have the second the third most talented roster and you never know you never know that people are getting rid of game EDS the game to watch out for um, if you have a bad team. They can do some good things they’ve looked pretty good to be be Penn State the outside but they’ve even stayed in there one last week on Indiana plays Michigan this week. Let’s see how that game turns out. I’m very very interested in how that Michigan is not one, not one to two Powerball music. It still has a lot of state looming There was a young touch on that. But India it’s interesting. I really don’t think anyone’s going to be honest at all to actually be very very surprised if Ohio State loses the game. This whole big 10 slate and I’m slate I’m talking about the eight games plus the one the one off in the championship weekend, which they’ll probably be number one playing against the big 10 West number one. I would say the second best team is Wisconsin, but Wisconsin clearly had the last game canceled this weekend. They are fans because of Coronavirus Graham Mertz is out three weeks due to the coronavirus restrictions put on the big 10

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and I in

Tyler Turner
the back I think the third string guy so he’s the backup Mertz and then the third string guys like called wolf he’s also out. So they’re like a fourth string quarterback. Um, the viscosity.

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Zero could lose.

Tyler Turner
I believe they play Purdue I think they also play Michigan. Enough performers can come back they could lose one if not you possibly both those games I and so then we’ll start to even make it as the opponent and everyone else in the West. The West is just not very good this year. I’m calling Eros to get blown off the field by Ohio State I was on to Minnesota is terrible their own to produce to know that their limited team I just think they have limitations on especially the defensive side of the ball. No question, sir. No, but they’re still I mean, last year they’re the worst even big 10 so they’re better this year may have a better offense and they definitely look better, but I still they still have limitations and then who else am I missing in the big 10 I think is Illinois. 10 days 90 good. I think just a big 10 West is not that good this year. Who knows comes out I would say Wisconsin and I think Wisconsin would be probably the second best team in the big 10 with Graham Mertz playing like you did week one but

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i don’t know

Tyler Turner
i don’t without with him out and with all the obviously they had a game canceled they’ve had to shut down practice for a week. I have my doubts about Wisconsin being able to recover and I think you’re gonna lose a couple games and therefore who knows where ever since last so I didn’t do anything. I know Penn State Ohio State team and I think they end up being in the college football playoff. Never know football but I would be shocked they just best quarterback in the conference one of the best quarterbacks in the nation. That’s why we supergroup on hands down the conference one of the best in that nation. I mean if Chris alaba Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams and any playing guys like Jackson, the big bowl and Julian Fleming and those are Five Star Elite wide receivers. So this is just this is a deep good, great team and the defensive defensive line look good. They got a lot of pressure on Clifford. They have a great offensive line the running backs master Teague and tre sirmans had a solid game against Penn State. I just don’t see them losing so a pencil a one but nine I know they’ll make the playoff committee is going to play nine Ohio State is kind of a no brainer. Or the rest of the games in the weekend. I’m not going to touch on everyone but the ones that I saw. I saw there Michigan said Michigan great victory permissions good. They lost a Rutgers I thought this team I’m like, this is the dean that might be I think I even predicted not to be that good this year. But I’m like one in eight or nine that went in to Michigan no fans. Let’s touch on that quickly. Wondering how the fans made is going to make a difference to know fans versus fans so far in the big 10 six victories by the home team seven by the road team. So for two weeks of data, having no fans makes a difference. Basically, it’s a neutral site game. So we’ll see how you go it is moving forwards. But last week one in life. Road team won five games. One victory at home team so we’ll see how it is moving forward. I’m a Northwestern Iowa good victory bento flushing didn’t see it again. So I’m not gonna make much comments on it. But I was lost the first two games. I was wondering how they’re going to be this year they had some off field stuff and growing to Purdue beat Illinois 3124 at once again Illinois on a good team. I’ve questioned I’ve been produced Indiana with a 3721 victory number Rutgers one week won over Michigan State. This could save you Michigan it’s not our circle, but

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are

Tyler Turner
pretty good. I don’t know Indiana could be a pretty good team on Ohio State wins and That was it. 123 hunters It was a Friday game. It’s the Friday game.

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They have it on here.

Tyler Turner
Oh, Minnesota versus Maryland. Victory by Maryland doodle Carolina blown off to Vegas Northwestern. I thought oh nine season. B Minnesota to Laredo Vega cop tour toda la. Yeah not been able to say their names. Terrible say names. Cancer is like me. Anyway, he grayken through five touchdowns was the big 10 we believe is big tempo week. Oh, Minnesota. They do that good.

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They don’t have good defense. Really bad events. They throw

Tyler Turner
one of the two games their bottom hat bottom 10 defense in college football and probably I think one defense bar five. So this is a bad defense. And I saw them there. They’re not good. They lost some key pieces. And it’s food. I don’t know how they’re gonna stop people. But like, there’s good offensively as well thought either. So um, yeah, so shorter. said who second best. I think it’s Wisconsin with a healthy grant Mertz. He’s not healthy. The team is not healthy. I just want to get back as our plan out, they’re able to get healthy and play Purdue this week, it would suck to lose two games. Remember, the big 10 if your game doesn’t get postponed, it gets canceled. So they lost again, they might lose another game. And I was excited to see Nebraska versus Wisconsin. So that’s unfortunate for for us guys. Because they’re fine, but it is what it is in this COVID season. So my prediction is this upcoming week. I’m just gonna do a little quick prediction on the games which could say IRA I mean Michigan State will come last week some reason I think two losses I think I was gonna come out I think they’re gonna beat them. I still think they’re probably a little better team. But I don’t know on to to close off with Indiana vs Michigan. I got a feeling Michigan’s gonna bounce back one this week. I mean, you kind of have to, but it is a bad they found a way to win first against and a great victory for Penn State that week one, Maryland Pepsi to come back one this week. They’re they’re on to a tough loss versus Indiana, obviously playing a very good Ohio State team. Um, Minnesota, Illinois, and Okay, hard to trust Minnesota right now. But I think Illinois is a really bad team. So I’m gonna go Minnesota, Purdue against Wisconsin. I hope that game happens if it does. I still think Wisconsin will figure out a way to be Purdue. I just think they’re better. They’re a better football team. And I think they can do enough on the ground. Keep it easy on the quarterback. I would still take Wisconsin even with a four string quarterback. But we will say Oh, Rutgers was the Ohio State could store Rutgers. You’re gonna get blown out of Nebraska versus Northwestern Nebraska. I liked some things that did against Ohio State. I think they’re gonna come out. I think they’re gonna miss last week. I think this is gonna be a hungry team. I think they beat Northwestern. And I did a couple guys that had targeted penalties so they’re supposed to miss the first half of the Wisconsin game. I wonder if that is negated because of the cancellation. just just just the thought of a couple starting secondary guys. Um, oh, yes. I like Nebraska. I think they’re gonna win that game. I don’t know what questions to know. But I think they have a lot to play for.

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That’s gonna cover the big 10 so far, not a lot

Tyler Turner
of surprises. It through two weeks. I’ve missed those a little worse than I thought. That’s a little bit of a surprise. I didn’t think Michigan was gonna lose Michigan State. That was a little bit of surprise. Indiana with upset over Penn State surprised me a little bit. That’s about it. It was those were crazy surprises.

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I

Tyler Turner
was thinking about picking Indiana to win that game. So it’s not a crazy surprise. And I think it’s kind of chalk right now. Let’s talk patch walls. They’re already patch. While everyone thought the backdrop wasn’t gonna play this year and this they’re gonna take the year off and

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they’re gonna heal protests.

Tyler Turner
We’re gonna go there. Election day tomorrow marks don’t want to go. You know, the last call. I don’t know what they’re gonna do. But uh, they played and they got season going November 7. A couple weeks later, the big 10 Cup we’ve learned about West Mountain West in the West you know, they’ve California schools. Whatever started two weeks later, poorly run conference. Back to all but are they gonna play six games plus one. So the big 10 is they eight games plus one Kinda already talked over a couple episodes again ago, obviously talked with him today. From addicted to crack. I also talked, I think I did when I did my own show I talked about what I thought about what was going to happen in the big 10 Big 10 oh 12 coming to conferences good like guys, so good to hear. Oh, and there’s not a really anything right now let’s change my mind. I tried to follow the team boards I tried to follow as much access as people are getting right now on to practices which isn’t much because of COVID they’re just kind of doing zoom meats with the coaches and the players. So there’s not a ton of information to gather right now. Um, but I’m trying to gather as much as I can. Obviously the Oregon the best I can tell you where today came out today. So I can kind of give you probably the most solid information on them less on the other teams. But I kinda have a good idea. I kind of have a good definitely good idea most for the most part what the production teams are bringing back what recruits they brought in the last several cycles, especially last and pretty dialed into what overall is coming to the PAC 12 Pacific then backed off in the last three to four cycles. So I pretty much have a pretty good handle on what the rosters gonna look like. Um, you hear some? I would say the national media is definitely favoring Oregon.

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Um, now some of the PAC

Tyler Turner
12 more centered stuff, john willner, the Mercury News, who does a terrific job so some of those folks are actually not as much a gourd is a little overrated and if Oregon um is NACA, he’s well they’re shaped and take him to win the North. But I have a I but where I have an advantage over Well, there’s actually no the roster, I have a little better idea who’s gonna be the guys who are actually going to be playing and who is not who opted out and impact it. There’s been a lot of talk about the opt out trigger in Oregon. I think Oregon was going to come into the season a substantial favorite. I think most of the FBI production predictions by like ESPN predictions by like, 247 it was not the they were it was not really that close, like people just thought, you know, you had the best offensive tackle in college football and a Super Bowl. You had unquestionably the best seasons in the PAC 12 one of the best defenses in college football, you know, guys that came on tibideaux and john Holland and, and in just the momentum, they won the PAC 12 last year. They won the Rose Bowl, they’ve had the number one recruiting class last two years. They were number two, three years ago. So their three year average is the best in the PAC 12. So most talent in recent years, successful on field

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play.

Tyler Turner
Very good coaches in the NBA Finals won the better defensive coordinators in the PAC 12 eight, if not America, future head coach in the next couple years. Joe Morehead who was the innovative offensive mind at Penn State the year they won went to the Rose Bowl won the big 10. So I just think a lot of factors factored into Denby the substantial favor now there we’re gonna play a lot of state and as much as I want to give Oregon every game I was not going to pick them at all, even at Autzen Stadium to beat Ohio State. I just think I’ll say it’s just still better right now and better and one of the best quarterbacks and I was not going to pick them to win that game. So then for Oregon to to go the playoff if they lose a lot of state they’re going to have to win the rest of their games and they it’s good solid games in their schedule. USC and Arizona State and Utah although you told us in that other there was a second revision now this third revisions I forget. But um

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so it was really hard

Tyler Turner
to run the table. Obviously they were unable to do it last year after they lost Auburn. Um, long story short COVID happen season gets canceled or postponed. Well, Oregon got hit with OPT outs more than anyone else the PAC 12 and probably second most anyone suffer maybe LSU in the nation. That great offensive tackle today. So I told I’m taught we talked about earlier he’s gone he opted out jevin haulin. possibly the best nickel safety in college football. he opted out three year starter and Thomas Graham quarterback, he opted out Brady Brees rosebowl MVP started safety he opted out

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that now that broad

Tyler Turner
was a substantial favor back to the back more so Now from my perspective, I still know what’s on the roster. They still have the second most talented roster on paper to only USC and call me a skeptic. So USC

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is

Tyler Turner
probably the one that’s closest to being I would say Oregon still slight favor and then USC is close so UCS definitely considered the favorite in the south USC adopted JT family who’s who’s all Pac 12 nose tackle, but other than that, they didn’t lose much OPT outs, they bring back a lot of production the offseason side of the ball they actually bring back a lot of production the defensive side of the ball I’m

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still call me

Tyler Turner
a skeptic on USC because USC the last since 2000, since the two 417 talent composite

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was

Tyler Turner
his if was invented, however, however you want to put it, um, since inception of the two 417 towncloud there’s a good work the inception um, USC has had a top five roster in all college football based upon based on dine talent. So whatever the composite rankings for each roster is, USC, every single season has been top five, except for this one, they’re actually number 10 nationally. So this is technically the least talented roster for USC in the two for 17. Talent positive arrow on the other five seasons. USC has finished, respectively eight and six ball loss 10 and three rosebowl victory Revenant three won the PAC 12 loss in the Cotton Bowl, five and 788 and five bowl last in the holiday bowl.

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I have gone

Tyler Turner
off my memory I believe they finished in the top 25. Two, obviously two of those years only in the top the one year they won the Rose Bowl, I think they finish maybe in the top five. But we you that’s clay Helton as a head coach and all five of those seasons. That is not when you have a top five roster you’re expecting a next conference that no other team for the most part has even had a top 15 roster. I think UCLA maybe one or two years at a top 15 other than that no other team at the top in Pac 12 had a top 15 roster based on based on talent. Well in those in those years since the inception of two for 17 footballs that Washington has won more games. Stanford has won more games on

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Oregon has

Tyler Turner
won as many games and Utah I believe and I’m going up top my head has won about as many games so USC has been more towards their victory their fall around like

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fourth

Tyler Turner
with having the best roster so they have not for the most part played up to that talent. The one year that they had the run with Sam darnold at adoree Jackson they Juju Smith Schuster

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um I mean

Tyler Turner
obviously a very talented roster several first round guys and first time quarterback they were able to make that Rose Bowl run they had a pretty good team that year I think they would even possibly been a decent challenge in the playoff Washington actually with a Black Bolt race by um Alabama USC actually beat Washington you’ll see a bad start they lost the first three games got killed by Alabama in the opening game they also lost Utah and I think they lost I can’t remember who else but other than that the rest even the year they were 11 and three won the PAC 12 they were very inconsistent team they they lost the Washington

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State

Tyler Turner
on they are killed by Notre Dame and they got killed by Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl. So USC has not necessarily played up to their talent for most seasons and last year not at all as two years a five five and seven did he make a bowl game and last year they’re eight and five and got smoked by way in the holiday bowl and neither of those years the defender’s office in the top 25

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so

Tyler Turner
last element of roster by baseline and expecting them to all of a sudden go seven unknown when the PAC 12 call me skeptical, call me skeptical. Now I still like some stuff about their team. I like the will love with the wide receiver core, along on Ross and brown Tyler Vaughn’s Drake London I’m keen slovis I would consider the top returning quarterback in the PAC 12 they have a couple good offensive linemen Elijah VIERA Tucker’s a guy that is a big time player. He’s probably going to be a early round NFL guy on defense, they have a new defensive coordinator. Their defense has been consistently not well consistently inconsistent. They have at times been just not good. It despite having really good talent. They’ve been one of the bottom They’ve in the bottom half the pack drive back a little. They have been at the bottom of the PAC 12 in regards to rush defense, stopping the run, they’ve really struggled in the past defense they have had the propensity to give up a place. Now some of those D backs were young and they have matured and they’ve actually obviously played I really like to guy like tell no fun guy he plays safety. He’s a bit he’s a really good player. outside linebacker Jake Jackson is a big time guy. He was a he was a all Pac 12 last year as a true freshman. The rest of the day and Paul got a taste that it was a high recruit as a linebacker Elijah Griffin chrissteele. A couple of highly regarded recruits haven’t necessarily played up to the recruiting ranking, but they’re talented. Um, we’ll see. We will see what USC I think the first test will come this week against Arizona State. Um, Arizona State was a team that obviously kind of rolled high at the end of last year they upset Oregon knock them out of the playoffs. They have an exciting young quarterback and Jayden Daniels. I think they’re getting a lot of hype behind them. I said they’re too deep today. And they’re certainly like their wide receiver core has some talent but they’re most of the guys that are going to be playing are true freshmen. The same for the running back position. I’m highly regarded guys guys that are talented, but they’re true freshmen and to win it are five level with playing true freshmen. It there is just going to be some growing pains. It’s just part of life and college football in general. And the offensive line was just very inconsistent last year. They had some guys transfer in and they’re starting like forget the guy’s name. He’s transferred in from Texas a&m, but he wasn’t playing at a&m transfer because it was a plan. Now he started Arizona State um, he named it has actually offered a trickle line last year so this is now a good wine. They had trouble rushing the ball and they have young running backs and they had a really good running back you know Benjamin is now in the NFL and they have trouble running um younger receivers Frank Darby is the oldest one comeback I think he’s pretty good player i don’t think is anything I don’t think he’s a big time receiver. I don’t think he’s a brand new now you I don’t think he’s a McHale Hara the two first round guys and last last left last couple years. Defensively they got they got some talent. That’s good to secondary. Crosswhite Jones, Chase Lucas, these guys were pretty regarded as recruits been kind of inconsistent. Their defense has not been bad though. They’ve had a ability to get after the past passer, they’d had the ability to make plays in the passing game. First teams to turn the ball over, they forced Oregon some very ill advised turnovers. Justin Herbert actually had a couple turnovers there in the third quarter that kind of put their completion at game but long story short, I don’t

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I still love this

Tyler Turner
Arizona State team.

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Um,

Tyler Turner
but first game season, nine o’clock kickoff pacific time going up against USC. Gee, you’re something of value. It seems like USC just get

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a

Tyler Turner
Arizona State also when they shut down the season, the athletes stayed on campus. I actually do practice at Arizona State. They didn’t. It’s in states like California, Oregon, Washington did it. They had more restrictions because they really couldn’t play outside so they sent them home. Could that be advantageous for the first game of the season that they got that extra time together, we’re able to prepare maybe a little bit better and we’re kind of able to seamlessly go into fall camp it could and especially an early morning game first game of the season.

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There’s

Tyler Turner
a game that makes me want to pick Arizona State. I still think Arizona state’s a flawed team. I do not take any sort of stances that Arizona state’s going to go seven at all. I think they lose at least two games. Um, I could

or third they could you lose to cow they could lose to Washington. It’s a first first they could definitely lose Oregon. I’ve seen them pick an Oregon cuz they’re gonna win it. I’m sorry everyone else, Oregon out of the North bed on ice See Arizona State going in and beating USC because that would be a clay Helton kind of team moved to do to lose that first game. And right there pretty much the PAC 12 to make the college football playoff has to win all seven games run last

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year not making the playoffs.

Tyler Turner
Because they started like they only get to play seven games. The Pac 12 already doesn’t have exactly the most stellar reputation when it comes to the power five, they’re not the SEC. They’re not the big 10 shoot on a very CC, either as good as a big 12. But who knows, I mean, they’ve only made the possible playoffs twice since its inception. They haven’t made it in the last three seasons. And honestly, they haven’t had the teams haven’t been great. I mean, Oregon is my team and I you know, they just weren’t quite good enough last year they I just you know, they were just a little bit step alone. They didn’t make it they make it a last inaugural game that should have won the last Arizona State game they should have won. They also won a couple games that they they should probably could have lost they could lost Washington state they won the less than second vehicle they’re down to Washington they came back and won. They got outplayed I think a lot a lot of points in that Wisconsin game. They found a way to win so they actually won games they probably shouldn’t have the last couple games they probably should have and then was Oregon really gotten sacked by LC they would have gotten smacked as as bad as Oklahoma. So um I think the PAC 12 has to go seven now and I would it would even behoove them if it gets to being too close. One loss sec non champion one loss Notre Dame I don’t know, thinking of some different teams of one loss is that people could be like, I just think they’re better than that team. I still women team, despite the OPT outs, the team that I trust the most and it’s not just because it’s my team, but I trust Oregon. There’s a second most talented roster in the in the grammar in regards to baseline talent second most talent roster in the PAC 12 when I did I did an article on sportscast us dotnet and I rated the raw the East position I had a tie between USC and a tie between Oregon and actually USC was slightly ahead when I did the actual position rank so when I rated quarterback position running back position wide receiver or in pass catchers wide receiver and tight and offensive line defensive line linebackers secondary actually USC was slightly ahead but then I did coaching impact. And I had Oregon having the second best I gave the best to Utah because Kyle Wade has just been such a good coach for so long. And Shelley has dccs been such a good defensive coordinator for so long DLC was a longtime offensive coordinator in the PAC 12 I just think did that’s a pretty good program great strength and conditioning program. I like how they do it’s like and I ranked the first but I ain’t ranked Oregon second. And I might even schematically be consider in some ways Oregon even better. I mean, Joe Morehead was a big time we’ll see. That’s why I got the head coaching job is to be state. He transformed Penn State from a middling offense to one of the best offenses of college football. Big 10 champion rosebowl on team. He’s Yossi Indiana was too great. It was a great defense of mine and Boise State got the job in Oregon. In one year he transformed them into a top 10 defense as far as efficiency, top 10 defense as far as havoc which is getting after the quarterback quarterback hurries tackles for loss on top 10 in turnover production, the plus minus defense offense and they were top 10 I believe in scoring defense off the top of my head. It’s such a transformation. I mean, Oregon Used to be terrible defensively. Jim rabbit came in after the new staff was hired and did a better job the defense definitely improved. But they still were not a top 25 defense. Then all of a sudden nationals comes in he takes what had been very good big recruited very well defense sidewall let’s be honest, they’ve recruited very well and they even feel like they the best recruits that came in the 2020 cycle. Defensive guys are five star Normal School linebacker five star Justin flow linebacker five star cornerback Dante 90 m Juco all American Bennett Williams so they have done just a terrific job on the defensive side of the ball and in this set as a county. Probably passer best pass rusher in the conference gave on tibideaux a couple three year starters in Austin value in Jordan Scott on the defensive line. As explained methods he was a he was one of the top rated tacklers in the PAC 12 on the award winner Second Team all Pac 12 two year starter at quarterback position. They, they have some really good players on the defensive side of

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the wall.

Tyler Turner
Um, they recruited Well, I, I would I would put my trust if I just looked at this I’m trying to like I want that’s my team that’s my team my favorite see my route for but if I just try to look at it just as pragmatically as possible. I just I would I just trust Oregon against USC because I think if they both get hit in the mouth, I trust a mirror crystal ball. Coach team over cryoem I think crystal ball is a better culture guy and a crystal ball is

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going to have his

Tyler Turner
guys play tougher and harder. And I think if it’s a close game, I’m taken I’m taken to Oregon. But an SNS so don’t want to beat a dead horse. I have Oregon winning the PAC 12 and I actually haven’t brought this up No no, I don’t have losing this year. Did the games have obviously it the schedules actually very advantageous? Because the question marks they have is they’re replacing the whole offensive line and they’re replacing the quarterback position. Oh, you’re like you need a schedule that can help you out well as much as playing a conference only scheduled member conference only you’re playing all power five teams. So that’s still pretty difficult. But if I if there’s like a wine stars the conference only won’t be played teams to don’t have great defenses play teams that don’t. Well, Stanford last year had a bottom half defense of the PAC 12. That’s their first opponent. Washington State had a bottom half defense the PAC 12. That’s their second point. UCLA had a bottom half defense, the PAC 12. That’s your third opponent, Oregon State at the bottom half of the first four games other than maybe called throwing in Colorado or Arizona. This is about the four best you can schedule it specifically against our offense, because I think it takes a little time to gel as an offensive unit, a new quarterback. But they’re playing against teams that I just don’t think are great. I don’t think they’re that talented on the defensive side of the wall. I think they’ll be able to generate some points and be able to do all in favor of greediness. One thing I know he had is a great defense. And now also seems I liked the offense

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of

Tyler Turner
Stanford. There’s some good they have a good quarterback good wide receivers. Decent running backs, decent offensive line, they probably could score but Oregon’s good defense I’m not that worried. so worried about them giving up the top ones on Washington State, new coach, new offensive system, new quarterback all that. They might certainly in the season. They might not be clicking on all cylinders. Now they had a great offense last year new system. I like relief. It’s going against that. Um, third game of the season UCLA. Have they been good offensively since Chip Kelly got there? Not really. They’ve had a bottom half offense will change a deadness? They’re really good. They’re bringing back some guys that have been have experienced and but minimal production. So I don’t know why some good offensive lineman one guy to the Florida one went to bed earlier. So I don’t think they’re going to be that great offensively and in August a good offense last year. Now the first quarterback play some key targets at wide receiver they were necessary recruited at high levels. So that might impact a little bit. We’ll see. I’ll call me in the wait and see mode and then counter Washington rare tapes and they definitely better defenses, especially Washington. It’s close between them in order for the best defense in the PAC 12. But if they can get that offense up to par,

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which I think they can

Tyler Turner
I trust your word trust smirkus Well,

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um,

Tyler Turner
I think by the fifth and sixth game when they play a little better teams a little better defenses that at least offense will have those games in their belt that need to be ready for to edit for Washington game one of its stars align that way. That’s a great team dead start your your new offensive line a new quarterback gets that would be a game that could be a possible upset one ugly game, like love Washington’s offense, but it would be one of those ugly games. Well, that didn’t happen. And I think the stars aligned and I think that Oregon can like kind of they’re good against good. They can win it. They’re bad against bad or they’re unknown versus bad. I think they can do fine And that’s why I’m pretty bullish. I think it’s their sixth No. And then I do think USC comes out itself despite them being a heavy favor despite actually decent people are favoring USC over Oregon. I don’t even know if USC for sure show itself. Play helps play home loses Arizona State. This just say hypothetically, then all of a sudden loses you to all of a sudden there are two losses. They probably don’t win south. Maybe you taught us that’s a good program. They replaced it a lot, but kind of trust Colleen having had a decent team. Um, Arizona State? I don’t think it has. I don’t think they’re a complete team. I think they’re a little overrated. But who knows. UCLA Colorado and Arizona are just not good. So I don’t lose though. Could UCLA be better? Could they go three and three or four? You never know you don’t totally know. I doubt Colorado new coaching staff in Arizona. There have just been bad I it’s very doubtful that you see those seems to be too good. UCLA to be the one maybe but I see it um, I saw I looked at USC but I think there was one yet I think they find a way to lose to Arizona State or Utah. Just think they find it. And then Utah probably new staff. They’re a team it Who knows? Could they go five and one could they go six? No. They’re the one that I’m kind of like, if maybe you’re a C could they then be winning the self? I don’t know. And then Oregon’s toughest teams I do believe

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I mean bleeder at Stanford

Tyler Turner
because of the talent on the offensive side of the ball I think in the first game of the season weird year it’s probably the game that I go to places with this. If I’m just gonna say talent, like talent on a roster versus talent on this roster, Washington’s closest Oregon Washington also has a very good defense they have guys are very good on their on their defense. So I look at that then all the local vigor when I think of Washington I think new head coach, new offensive coordinator new offensive scheme new quarterback that’s all a lot and an office that wasn’t very good last year so not a very good offense and replacing all

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those

Tyler Turner
I don’t know I just don’t know how good they’re gonna be in a shortened season on offense so they might win a lot of games tend to seven but they could find themselves losing opening game to count they’ve lost the last two years that’s very possible um, but talent they match up damn good defense. They could force turnovers they could and that could change the reflection the reflection DMA is good enough where it’s all legible. It’s one of the best players in the PAC 12

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cow I encounter

Tyler Turner
overhyped john roller for Mercury News pick out the wind the north and a lot of people are like that sets to watch out for damn a marginal offensive line. They are not very talented overall on the roster. They’re not talented skill positions, especially a wide receiver. They lost a lot on defense. They lost their best defensive lineman their best linebacker the best defensive backs. And they don’t recruit well. They have one of the bottom third talent rosters in the PAC 12 not just the PAC 12 but in all college in all the power five. I think that’s a three and three teams. I think they could win a game over like Washington. But could they beat Oregon. It is normally wholesale advantage of like, oh, they’re going to cow maybe that’s it? Dude. Like I said big 10 it’s been like 5050 it’s basically a neutral field game and I like what is on that team for Oregon a lot better cow. I just don’t know how Cal can effectively effectively move the ball on a consistent basis. So basically, Oregon can line up in the box. Space basically forced them to pass and I don’t think they’re wired to see every garbage not bad player. But I think he would be pressured at aq have to get the ball down the field. I don’t think they’ll necessarily beat him. I saw him play Oregon last year and they really had trouble like beating them in the one on ones. I don’t think it’s gonna be different this year. So in order to score I think they and then their defense is not good. I think he’s good at defensive coach

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Wilcox but

Tyler Turner
overrated. Washington has a major offensive issues organizations never very talented. I think they’re actually like Jonathan Smith. I liked his office a quarter I like his overall staff. They’re a little sneaky they’re a team that can win a couple games. If I if I were gonna sell I could like they’re gonna beat Oregon State soon as always do one set last decade on when we’ve lost some maybe one time. But you can see them pretty good last year it wasn’t totally a touchdown was a one score game. We’re getting did not play very well that game but it but it was a tough game. Um,

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I just think that

Tyler Turner
he says, so just to plop that on that I don’t think they beat Oregon. I think that gives a little closer then maybe we had like, a rivalry game. And I think Oregon State’s a little better. I don’t get I would have to the schedule. I haven’t really in the first game. I wouldn’t be in Washington State. I know. That’s game number one. I’m growing Oregon State net game. And I think they weren’t a couple of more. I think they can take a couple more. I just think that’s a team that they end up three and three wouldn’t shock me. I think Washington State new coaching staff. Um, they had help had a lot of guys at the portal there don’t never have to squat. I think Nick rolovich is a pretty good coach. I think he’s a pretty good offensive mind. I just don’t see them being much of a I just don’t see them. doing very well this year. I think this is gonna be a tough year. And then. So it’s hard to say Washington say cow, Washington. Who am I missing? Stan? Oh, Stanford. Oh, see, there’s gonna be some games. I think there’s enough good offense on that team. And they Davis knows one of the better quarterbacks four or five star I like the ridership group of Michael Wilson. Connor weddington. And Osiris St. Brown. Solid running back. Austin Jones. ej Smith does not have Emmitt Smith. Mike carries. They have some talented offensive linemen. Good center. Good. Right. I think he’s right or left tackle foster Sara, former five star? I’d like some pieces. No offense, I don’t love the defense at all talked about earlier. They’re not deep. I don’t think they’ve recruited that well on that side of the ball. I just think overall, their best defensive back also to debo went to the NFL. I think they’re going to struggle to stop teams. I think they’re a team that’s going to have score a lot to win. And I think they will I they’re another team that’s going to win some games. But when I look in most of the PAC 12 what I think often like Colorado, you see, Colorado, Arizona, Washington State, they’re the three teams that I just don’t see them winning barely any games. one, maybe two games, a myth that is without thoroughly looking at their schedule. You said they could sneak in a couple victories? Arizona, Colorado? Who knows? Could they be an Arizona say could they be a Utah? Maybe they’re a team that it possible possible. Um, they are at the top of the south and say Arizona State, Utah USC, but I could see them all dropping the game, I could see them dropping two gates wouldn’t shock me, especially a team like yours, I’ll say if they ended up being quite as good as people thought me into being like three and three would not shock me. A

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Utah i think

Tyler Turner
is a really good program. Really well coached team, I think they’re going to be at least a four and two team this year. And they could be five one outside, you know, the North Washington State and it’s gonna be bottom dollar, then I think there’s going to be some trade off, I think, between Washington, Cal Stanford in Oregon State, there’s going to be a couple of those games to the team that you don’t think it’s gonna win. All Oregon cepii. Washington all up. Stanford kept beats cow, cow. And I think we think that’s odd. Maybe we pick Stanford straight up, and I think it’s going to be a back and forth. I see. There’ll be a couple losses in there for all them. Um, clearly, if they’re trained back and forth. Washington State’s the only team that I could possibly see not winning actually any games. I could see

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that. And then there’s

Tyler Turner
I don’t know. Actually, I’m picking them to play a five in one USC Eddie to beat USC and then I think Oregon seven oh, and we We’ll see is that enough to make the playoffs? I’m not saying it is. No, I did a few things go on the favor. tenant. Oh, Cincinnati I don’t know this year. They maybe have more top 25 victories in

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Oregon

Tyler Turner
and no i BYU I just don’t think it plays gonna schedule I know they played Boise State this week but I just don’t think they play a good enough schedule. schedule so I don’t know but a Seminole Oregon Arizona rock that’s that’s maybe a little more worried about I think that Oregon robbyn seven oh, I don’t think their kidney kill teams. I think they might be I actually don’t know if I have any victory being unbelievably lopsided. I you know, I if I was gonna pick off the top of my head if I was going to pick Stanford, I have like 2016, Washington State 3517 UCLA, probably their biggest widest widest margin of victory probably like 38 1742 to 31 against Oregon State’s 2821 over Cal 2417 over Washington and then like a victory of 3528 over USC. These are just kind of thought man, I’m just kind of throwing what kind of is a baseline, well, touchdown victory over Cal USC, Washington. 10 plus victory over Stanford, and then the bigger victory and Oregon State and then a couple touchdown victories over Washington State and UCLA, but is that enough to average about 13 point victories while you’ll say that Oh, they want other games they you know, look good enough. I don’t know if that’s enough. If there’s enough other good teams still close enough with maybe a one loss, maybe even a two loss scct maybe one loss and amya one loss order name. There’s just a few situations where I could see them being like I don’t think Oregon’s good enough and they only played seven games. But I’m picking them to win at all. I just trust my crystal ball. I think he’s a great culture builder. I think he’s recruited extremely well. I think he’s not screwed. I think he’s managed his roster very well. I think guys have gotten a lot of reps. That’s why I’m not so worried about the OPT outs especially in the defensive backfield. So I’ve seen some places online where people like that see if you see all the people that have lost the defensive backfield, they still have an the best or second best offensive backfield, the PAC 12 they still have all conference guy down or they still got all conference level guy McHale right they still got two couple year starters in Verona McKinley, Nick Pickett, they brought in a couple of transfers that started before our five letter of German half of Boise State. Bennett Williams was a freshman all American in Illinois, they still had a lot of experience they still have a lot of talent. And even like freshmen like DJ James A cornerback and Jamal hill at Nicole and Steve Seaton safety they all played last year so guys have played guys have started guys transferred in Dennis started. I just think there’s a lot of experience. I think they have more talent than pretty much everyone except for maybe USC. And I like their coaching staff. I like their head coach. I like the coordinators. There’s just a lot to like about this Oregon team. And even though I do not think Oregon this year, is as good as any Alabama, Clemson Ohio State, but I do think they can go undefeated and I do think that could be good enough to get them into the fourth seed and that could be good enough to go to the playoff do I think they would be a hypothetical Alabama No, no, I don’t I just think they’re not quite there talent wise I don’t think they have enough experience at key positions like quarterback offensive line. I think they would lose significantly this year. Now next year. We’re once again they’re bringing in a top five roster it’s our top five recruiting class and next year they’re probably gonna have a top 10 rosters in regards to talent in a conference where they will be significantly the best they do play Ohio State at Ohio State but that is a Justin fields gone just saying he’s gone to a new quarterback that might even though it’s on the road, you know, who knows. I think next year though, that Oregon team could be more of a threat against the top tier. Now there was a towel on the roster but also some some really key experience to get ready. Rep this year I would just be happy winning the PAC 12 and getting to the wealth specialises really think there’s gonna be a season especially with the OPT outs and even with the guy even the lock does it does lower their ceiling a little bit. I don’t think it’s great. I

don’t think there gonna be any of those top three anyways. But I think now instead of maybe losing 35 to 21 did lose 3510 this so so i think i think there’s still enough. Um, so quickly I’m just gonna go through how I think this week’s games are going to grow and then I’m done. I’m done, folks. You’ve heard enough me.

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Watch where it goes.

Tyler Turner
So schedule Pac 12 Oh, I should know this. I shouldn’t be doing something like that. Um, see if I can figure this first game. ASU at USC. Man I want to pick the upset. I think it can happen by can’t pull the trigger. I do think USC is better. I think that the better roster I trust USC more. I’m going to go USC but it is you shot some a might kick myself and I might say dang it could have pulled the trigger. Dave Sokol almost pulled the trigger of Indiana Penn State game. Emma said I think Indiana could get in the week before Penn State was all say they did. I didn’t pull the trigger. I’m not gonna pull it again. I figured he’s better. But it is an upset. Jay, I can see it that weird time first game. Clay held coach to see there’s a lot that I could see happening there. I’m gonna try to do this off the top I had UCLA at Colorado. I think UCLA I just think a lot of new coaching staff, new quarterback. They’ve been through a lot. Obviously covid season. No spring ball. I just don’t think they’re very good this year. So I’m gonna pick UCLA. I don’t love UCLA. I have not like that at all under Chip Kelly. I don’t think they’ve really trended the right direction. Um, Washington State, I believe is it at Oregon State? Does it really matter? Um, and once again, I was gonna pull it up and I’m just gonna tell my hat. I really say once. I like Joseph Smith. I like his staff. I trust him. Gambia played last year in the game against Oregon. He was not starter but he did play didn’t play that bad. Actually. I think he’s good enough quarterback. He was a four star guy coming out. I think there’s enough good players in the defensive side of the ball like hamilcar Rasheed, I like Avery Roberts. I like that kind of that linebacker group. I think they’re gonna be ready. I pick Oregon State in that game. I’m trying to think of trying to move it down. I’m lalalala Arizona versus Utah. I’m into Utah it’s a Utah now Utah is replaced in a lot new cornerback new running back. Pretty much our whole defensive unit it went off to the NFL and graduated obviously a very good team last year to be almost at cost. Intel Oregon Boat Race them in the PAC 12 championship. Um,

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but I just

Tyler Turner
trust skyway em over Kevin sumlin I think Utah’s a better roster I actually know they do. I’m gonna take Utah TV might be a little closer than maybe for comfort. But I’m going to take you to that game. I’m going to count Washington last

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so

Tyler Turner
wrong okay, so I take UCLA

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Oregon State

Tyler Turner
management itself the top of your head is is is that Utah? What game will I miss in Canada? Canada Washington is gonna try to move that because it’s the game other than as you’ll see, but I think our Washington might be like if you’re looking for

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Tyler Turner
the cow watching the baby’s personal. Um it’s that cow doesn’t really matter. Cows beating them last two years. What I I think Washington is better. In regards to talent. I know they’re better. But cow returns are starting quarterback. They return their most of their offense. I think overdrafts great but they’d return it Washington conversely just as so many question marks they don’t even have a quarterback named starter who knows who the starter is going to be there’s like four guys battling it out. No they have any playing time. They do wide receivers new running back most of its wives do new offensive forbear new scheme, new head coach, this question marks I could just see the what this is about. I think that was such a good defense. I think they’re gonna come on it they’re gonna play some good defense of the cows just very talented. Oh, it is gonna be a low scoring affair. I’m gonna take out I just think that that offense is so many question marks. There. I think there’s gonna be some mistakes. And I think Wilcox is a good enough defensive coach that he’s going to be able to be able to create enough confusion on an offense. It’s just so many question marks knew everything in this weird season. I think that’s enough to pull a really ugly victory for cow I’m talking 1410 1413 three, four turnovers by Washington. Like that kind of game. I don’t mind those guy games. I was a defensive guy. I like good defense. 90 to 58 Big 12 stuff bore fast. I’m Kasha miss it. Okay, so I have all the one missing have to be missing a game of Arizona, Colorado UCLA? Arizona State USC, Utah. No, I actually Okay, that’s me everyone. I lost count somewhere in there. Put the big game Stanford vs. Oregon. primetime game on ABC or herb St. Crystal are doing the play by play. Who do I got? Um, Stanford’s considered upset them. Oh my goodness. No, No, I’m just kidding. Stanford is didn’t have a good year last year. They’re not necessarily trending in the right direction. They had a lot of transfers and like 12 did a couple of key guys opt out Walker litter five former five star gonna probably be a first round pick also debo terrific cornerback. Probably your early day to pick but I still like some guys on offense. I already mentioned it I like third quarterback Davis Mills. I like the receivers Connor weddington. Michael Wilson. Cyrus a brown I like the running back awesome. Jones. I think they’re still going to have trouble in that opening game. We get that Oregon defense and if there’s no fans, so who cares about the home field advantage? either gonna have trouble? No, I think tibideaux is gonna cause some trouble on food, that pass rush, I think they’re gonna be able to slow down the run game. And I think they’re gonna force couple turnovers. I think the offense for Oregon is going to be a little bit topsy turvy. I think they’re, you know, a new quarterback, new offensive line. I think there’s gonna be some mistakes. I don’t really turn the ball over much. I think there’s just be some execution. I think maybe we can struggle. I think I sort of run the ball. But Stanford is not have a good run defense, and they really have depth problems on that side. But I’m just going off of what I believe new offense on that was a weird offseason. Not many spring spring practices. But at the same time that offense has been going against the best defense in the PAC 12. And that, you know, that’s gonna make competition that makes you better. But I think by the second half, I think it’s one of those games at first half it’s so it’s a 10 by artists in 2016. So I haven’t been like seven to seven. Let’s Let’s go that seven, seven. You’re like man, organs up then and even second half Oregon. Stores be able to run the ball Sanford defense tires, I think did they force couple turnovers and then they jump out to like a 28 seven like 2810 lead Stanford and get the late touchdown. I haven’t 16 missed extra point, whatever. Ah, but I think it’s the second half. I think just the depth of Oregon.

I think the talent of Oregon’s better. I think the defense of Oregon is just very good. And I think the second half you finally see all that kick in and in Oregon is a tough team there. They’re after merio crystal ball. And since he’s been there, when the most of the time when the games have been tough. He for the most part, he had that loss gets off him before. He’s hung on there as well. A lot of weight games and a victory over Washington is first Your weight victory last year over Washington, Lake Victor, Wisconsin. He his team, for the most part is pretty resilient, pretty tough. And that’s why I like about crystal ball like why like was head coach among other things, a great recruiter and all that stuff. I think Oregon’s able to pull out that game 2816 I don’t think it’s a great outing by Oregon. But it’s enough to move on to next week, and I think they’ll continue to get better week after week. That’s my recap backhauls tune in guys I want I’ll be going over what I think I’m very interested to see the first week and up and big 10 I’m not gonna lie you covered you for the first 20 minutes podcast. Some good games this week. Like I said, I this is not the best week on the schedule. But Indiana Michigan is a good game. And the Raskin Northwestern thought game so there’s some good games the big 10 I’ll cover both next week. Good definitely lock in on the Oregon in the PAC 12 but Dan I’m definitely gonna push on the big 10 a little bit and then the following week, preview all the games coming up. Maybe have a guest we should have. We should have a guest someone so someone someone reckon recommend me. Someone. I’ll take big 10 Pac 12 doesn’t matter. I’ll take the other conference. Anyways guys did for election. Go vote. Let your voice be heard on go to sportscast on net. Check out articles and subscribe to our podcast on iTunes. Hit us up on YouTube or Periscope. It’s time to turn your show and I will see you next week. This week. I’m out.

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