In this episode, Victor and Arocho recap the New York Giants loss against the Arizona Cardinals, preview the Giants-Washington Football and the Dolphins-Bills games.
Victor Arocho – @varocho
Victor Arocho 0:12
Five out of Miami Fort Lauderdale. Welcome to the Jones and a roadshow show hosted by Byron Jones and Victor are roadshow brought to you by the sports cast. Today’s December 17. And if you haven’t yet, please subscribe to all our channels going YouTube, Periscope, iTunes. And if you not, if you’re on iTunes, please go to the iOS app and download the app. If you could rate us and review us it would help us out tremendously. Also check out our sports cast. Our website at sports cast one dotnet we’re streaming live now on Facebook. We’re streaming live on youtube and Periscope and we’re live for calling. So let’s get this party started by red or back. How are you and tell me? I saw some pictures. So tell me how does the weather Oh, it was brutal.
Byron Jones 1:12
Finally, about one o’clock yesterday, it started snowing here. So you know I had everything set up. I was good to go. The next you know starts picking up and pick it up and pick it up even more. Probably about about seven o’clock. At night. We probably had about six inches of snow. So I was out there like a knucklehead with my snowblower going up and down the street being the wonderful neighbor that I am plowing other people out.
Unknown Speaker 1:38
Okay, wait a second.
Unknown Speaker 1:39
Did you just say snowblower snowblower
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Victor Arocho 1:43
can I pull your card? Because we grew up there was snow blower.
Unknown Speaker 1:49
Byron Jones 1:51
you were the snowblower.
Victor Arocho 1:55
Natalie shovels is the reason why I came South there was no snow blower. You had to do the neighbors because you had to do their palaces.
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Unknown Speaker 2:09
Remember the key thing free?
Victor Arocho 2:12
Actually, so we use a snow blower? I thought that was funny. Yeah, I saw some pictures for some of our friends that posted in Jersey and I was like, wow,
I saw downtown. I saw not downtown but Madison Square Times Square in New York. It was buried. I don’t miss that. I could say right now today was a beautiful probably 72 Oh, thank you. It was rather well. Good work late. So to our fans out there was a little late today only because it’s trying to make it home to do podcast here as opposed to my office. And then I lost the contact in a way so I’m driving with like these reading glasses. One contact I’m trying to get here on time and then trying to get checking everything out. You know? Oh, well. We’ll have a fun show anyways, but I knew it’s gonna be cold over there.
Byron Jones 3:07
Did I tell you was another six inches when I got up in the morning?
Victor Arocho 3:11
You did all that for nothing or whatever liquid mount would have mounted on each other
Byron Jones 3:16
It wouldn’t have like a foot Yeah, but I did you know sex and I did the six and that stuff was so hard that as big as I have I walked across the stone and then leave a footprint anywhere it was at home.
Victor Arocho 3:27
So you’re lucky did the first set because then it would have been even harder. It would have been a mess. It would have been a mess. Yeah, how was the temperature gonna get to tonight because that’s where the problem becomes when
Unknown Speaker 3:36
Byron Jones 3:38
to 20 tonight but the whole key thing is I’ll be in house so that’s when the
Victor Arocho 3:43
the snow starts freezing
Byron Jones 3:46
I’m retired i don’t care i have no place I need to be tomorrow
Victor Arocho 3:49
other than snow blowing
Byron Jones 3:50
I’m not even gonna do that tomorrow. will find me a little kid walking down the street $20
Unknown Speaker 3:57
in London with a shovel yeah okay.
Byron Jones 4:00
Yeah I’ll be supplying the shovel the soul everything here you go my man 20 bucks
Victor Arocho 4:07
oh my god that is funny. All right, well, let’s get let’s get this party started now All right, so we got our giants had on very interesting. Game Day which is terror. I look. I like Tyler Murray like the Cardinals, but they’re not that much better than giants. No, not really. No. Well,
Byron Jones 4:27
you can see Daniel Jones shouldn’t play that’s my opinion.
Unknown Speaker 4:31
He was hurt or
Byron Jones 4:33
what out of doubt he was hurt. Because any other time you know what he got pressure the way he was getting even took off run. When did did you see him? Right? I didn’t remember him taken off running not one time. Or you know, or if you got that much pressure roll out to the right rollouts. He didn’t even do that. He was hurt. He was hurt. They you know, they taped it up as tight as they could test you know, tape it up and he was gonna be a good soldier and went out there and now look at him.
Victor Arocho 4:58
Now the other leg hurts. But that’s two things. One, it’s a depending on where it comes from when I give you every side for me one, at first, if I see it at first, it’s selfish on his part, right? You got to be at your best if you’re gonna play with your with your team, number one. Number two, it could have been a selfish or concern of the fact that Coca Cola without them, right and only through varada yards, right against a really good team. So you know, New York’s a tough place to play. So you don’t want to get forgotten very quickly. And, and you see the disaster that’s happened south in Philly, where you’re at? Oh, okay. So, um, and then the other part are the coaches. I mean, what do you think in right, I mean,
Unknown Speaker 5:48
first of all, I
Victor Arocho 5:49
forgot Coco was playing in the league. Nor did I know he was the second string quarterback. And during this game, they were rooting for him to come in.
Byron Jones 6:01
Because everybody, everybody probably knew, know, his teammates know that he was hurt. offens Ladin they know that hurt, you know or not, but he shouldn’t have been out there. You can see that he was struggling, you know, to drop back, you know, and just put any steam on a ball. And he just, you know, my opinion should have been out there.
Victor Arocho 6:22
And then he hit here team, right? When even if we would have lost but we played like we’ve been playing I’d be happy. Right? But not to go down that way. And look, our run was terrible. We didn’t run. I mean, if it was on, you know, our guest hosts last time at Bell desert Zod, he’d be really pissed because we ran up all those yards, Seattle. And then we go to the Cardinals and you know, that one runner had over 100 yards. Not a passer Didn’t you know, I think he had maybe 100 Yeah, he threw for as much Colt McCoy. Why did we beat the Seahawks? Well, they had on
Byron Jones 7:03
I read somewhere that I think Gates has a center. He said that the Cardinals gave them a different look. You know, they gave him like they came out with kind of like a full for defense. And then he manned up on you know, receivers on the outside and bought a baker, a Buddha Baker, the guy who got ran down by Metcalf matched up with Ingram, how many catches Ingram have the whole game,
Victor Arocho 7:24
none of them had either none of the passing was all the quarterbacks didn’t have any passing. Our run game was terrible. All three runners really did. They all had like 40 yards or something like that. It was just a terrible, terrible game. And it was just a terrible game. And then I just couldn’t believe we be in the position we’re in, then be in a position to be wanting to have Colt McCoy warming up to come.
Byron Jones 7:52
At least Well, he didn’t know something he would have been better than what they have back there. At least they could have rolled out with him Now roll out our ticket, you know, he could run a little bit. Or he was sitting up
Unknown Speaker 8:03
there. He did his job
Victor Arocho 8:05
last week against a good team. I mean, that’s what a quarterback needs to do. The defense was playing great. Just don’t keep giving it up. You know what I mean? So I think if he was hurt, right, and it seems to to be then they should have just like Colt McCoy, please. It could easily turn the ball over. He handled it. You know what I mean? And you don’t know what a guy like that can come that guy’s got talent. I mean, you gotta be around the league for 12 years making that kind of money. No, but I’m
Byron Jones 8:36
just, I don’t know, you know, he was being a good soldier. You know, he’s trying to be like, Eli, I’m sure there’s plenty of time but he like man, he was fighting that he was hurt and that he shouldn’t have been out there but he went out there anyway. And maybe he’s trying to take along the same lines that you know, okay, I’m hurt, you know, but I can drop back and I can throw the ball as long as these guys protect them. But when you have Hassan Riddick, the outside linebacker for the Cardinals get five sacks. I feel he’s he’s a jersey guy. I’m not gonna I’m not gonna slam him too much. He played a cat over Camden, Camden County.
Unknown Speaker 9:09
Shout out jersey,
Byron Jones 9:11
I think with the temple to Temple University. For him to get five sacks. In one game. I don’t think he probably hasn’t had five sacks. You know, his whole career since he got five one game against our number one pick. Andrew Thomas. I’m a dud.
Victor Arocho 9:30
That’s like the that’s like the waterboy right. ESPN where we got 16 sacks and when?
Byron Jones 9:38
Pretty much that’s what reading I’m like, I’m sitting
Unknown Speaker 9:40
and watching him like, he’s making him look like
Byron Jones 9:43
you know, a Hall of Famer like Reggie white or Derrick Thomas are one of these guys and I’m like, I’ve never even heard a guy before. Next. You know, he’s just he goes, he speed Russia up. They’ll speed the power. He pushes Andrew Thomas out of the way and Thomas goes flying. And you know to the right or to the left and there goes poor Daniel Jones down. Yeah. He’s been playing well of the game though for games, you know the top of the line. But that was a big setback. That was that was bad. That was really Yeah.
Victor Arocho 10:15
Well look what we got coming up right. So right now we are the Redskins are ahead. The we have coming up the browns, the Ravens and the Cowboys.
Byron Jones 10:27
I’m sure you heard that Bradbury is out for COVID. This week. The corn is out of the coordinators out.
Unknown Speaker 10:35
Byron Jones 10:37
Freddie kitchens, you know his old team, you know, he’s gonna be the opposite coordinator, you know, against Cleveland. So we’ll see how this goes. But if Andrew Thomas doesn’t show up against the Browns this week, you got miles Garrett, probably the best event event and all football is gonna be lined up across from him. And he might set up NFL sack record. If he doesn’t prove in one week.
Victor Arocho 11:03
Yeah. And let’s hope they make the right decision. A quarterback Daniel Jones gets better by then, you know, a Cleveland Cleveland, good team, you know, but they’re streaky too. So you know that everybody’s vulnerable for loss. I mean, Seattle took a beating. And at one point, they were a front runner. So and then you got you got Cleveland coming up. And then we got the Ravens, which we’re going to talk about the Ravens and I don’t know if you saw the Ravens and the Browns game. But now we got the Ravens coming up. And you know, you’re gonna again with both of those teams, and then the Cowboys What am I worried about the Cowboys but between the browns and the Ravens, both of those teams, you’re gonna have to keep their offense off the field.
Byron Jones 11:49
Both on Ronda what, what’s going to happen is that because of the strength of the Giants defense is the run defense. Right. And the strength of Cleveland so far has been their running game, which is Neil Chubb and Kareem Houghton. And same thing with what we call the Ravens, you got Lamar Jackson, you have to worry about him. But Ingram is back as well. So both of those games that they’re going to be playing to our strength, but it’s not going to help this week, because you got Bradbury out and you have Landry, the receiver, which is pretty good receiver for our Cleveland. So you know, hopefully, mill defense keeps playing well, at a kind of level things out,
Victor Arocho 12:33
you know, and then then you got the Ravens with Lamar Jackson. And then, you know, he’s a toss up though. He had a great game this weekend against Baker Mayfield, who had a great game. I mean, that was it was a it was at point game.
Byron Jones 12:51
But look what they did. They got their strength is running as long as they could run the ball. And he thought he can throw those tight ends you know, he’s got good tight ends. They’ll be talking about the Ravens, ravens, yes, they have good tight ends, that he’s a lot better when he had Dan to people, they had the running back and him running for 100 yards. They run the ball, they’re fine. They want to get back to the basics, run the ball. He’s like, you know, we talked about that with Justin, you know before that he’s not one of those guys is gonna get back and he you know, he’s gonna carry the team throwing a ball 4050 you know, time again, he’s not that kind of quarterback. Right? Well,
Victor Arocho 13:28
I want to be from my perspective, what I’m hearing you say but I’m gonna tell you my opinion and be clear for the listeners is when we’re saying they need to run the ball. The main part of what I just said about him having 100 yards and the running back half 100 yards. The main part of that was there was a running back that ran for 100 yards. That is the main key. Right? Because he could still would win if he ran for 50. The 100 doesn’t hurt. Right But you can’t expect a quarterback to be run it for 100 yards game. Right. But you could have he’s a great threat. So I think seems like you agree. You tell your side is that awesome. Both of them ran but the key component of us you had a run it back running over 100 yards. That changes the game for him. And he was throwing sides. He was going deep.
Byron Jones 14:23
Yep. No, no, he’s got no Ingram. Great. Running Heisman Trophy winner from Alabama, Alabama. No, he’s back. You know, he’s not banged up. You know what he’s been? And you know what, as long as they have him back, they’re running the ball and Lamar, you only have to sort of watch 25 times a game and you’ll be able to run and you’ll get anywhere between 75 to 100 yards with him. That’s just extra if he gets all those yards. Well,
Victor Arocho 14:51
that’s that’s a lot. I would think that’s a lot of Yeah, I think if he could get you know, anywhere from he’s a runner, you know, but if he could stay within you know, 50 under 50 yards which is still a lot when I mean the Giants running backs all of them had 40 yards each right because you’re gonna have to mix it up to four running back to four running back to run 100 yards it’s an impressive game right running back runs 100 yards is impressive game for quarterbacks treat yards is it make is amazing
Byron Jones 15:24
but look at the like the winner opposite design their offense is designed for him to run the ball he’s gonna run the ball more than like Cam Newton you know back in the day arm would run or even further down the go even way back to Randall Cunningham where a lot of the runs that he had improvise yeah because but he’s still getting a lot of right oh yards Randall Cunningham another guy running you know out of necessity because nobody was open but you know another one got a lot of yards michael vick Look at him a lot of those things were you know designed with him as well and our you know, they just evolved all the way to where the mark Jackson is going to run the ball
Victor Arocho 16:07
and they said to me that’s that is the the the a version of the Wildcat it’s another it’s just running back that’s actually a quarterback exida dolphins brought that back the Wildcat and then everybody in the league started running it. They still run the Wildcat plays right with the quarterback out wide or the quarterback not and um, yeah, you mentioned a lot of quarterbacks. You’re right, but they all didn’t win it. Dhoni so so where I see the difference between everyone you mentioned inclusive of Lamar is that you have Patrick mahomes that can run the ball, and he does a pretty good balancing act of it. Tyler Murray could run he does a really good balancing act of it. Baker Mayfield, he’s not a runner, like those guys, but he moves the ball a little bit. But the difference between I see with Tyler Murray and them as they’re truly playing quarterback first and then looking for the run, you don’t I mean, knowing they can get away they have enough shiftiness and quickness to make something happen. And, and so to for me, I think he’s got to keep his runs. If he gets those 100 yards from time to time, it’s awesome. And they design plays for him to run, that’s fine. But the problem is, is they got to remember his psyche. He’s used to being such a great athlete and running all over people with no problem. NFL, you’re not going to be able to do that.
Unknown Speaker 17:39
They’re all great athletes,
Victor Arocho 17:39
either all great athletes, and there’s just one wear and tear on his body to the legs eventually going to give. right because you know, it’s not like Peyton Manning. Tom Brady. Think about it. They played a long time. Wasn’t because they ran. Right. Okay, so so you know, I just think that he has some design plays, I think one and now I don’t believe that if they run the ball with Ingram, I think they that he sees unstoppable. But you got Patrick mahomes that runs the ball very well. But he’s passed first. Like, he noticed that him. I don’t know if he noticed his drop back. Let me go. You notice him in Tyler Murray. They’re very good at running right to the line of scrimmage and looking guys like Lamar, once he goes, one, he’s probably so fast. So he has done a lot a lot faster than them, right. But I think that once he makes his mind to run, he’s not really looking good throw all the way up to the line of scrimmage. Those guys are always looking to throw up to the line of scrimmage and then they take off. Or they may have already have an idea that I’m gonna run, but they’re gonna faking it all the way to the line of scrimmage. What do you think, look,
Byron Jones 18:56
look at the receivers that Arizona has.
Victor Arocho 18:59
They got Andre Hopkins
Byron Jones 19:02
Hopkins and they got this girl. So these guys know that when when this guy starts to run around doing his thing, and he’s going to run up to the lobby, they’re going to come back toward him to get the ball or they’re going to go deep because he can launch that ball. Probably that’s already get to him. So that’s probably something you know, they work with and the same thing with homes. But uh, mahomes Well, tyreke Hill,
Victor Arocho 19:26
he’s got Kelsey
Byron Jones 19:29
tag loaded Bruce Davis, so why would I have to take Yeah, I want to get that half of me and that will a half a billion dollars that he’s gonna get over the next three years. So why would I want to risk it? You know, take Ron,
Victor Arocho 19:40
I guess I just my only thing is I just think that, uh, you know that those guys, they’re there. They want to they want to throw the ball and they’re going to use their legs, tips to give them enough time for their receivers to do something in an effort to go downfield. Lamar just demonstrated that on that last play though, because he threw the ball and that guy went deep. Finally, you know, some of that may be sometimes it’s not even the quarterback fault. The receivers really, the door to ball to an MTR. And why is the quarterback throwing such dumb ball? It’s the receiver didn’t do the right thing
Byron Jones 20:18
to look at private prime example. Aaron Rodgers What does he do usually if he could somebody to jump offsides, what is that guy goes? He throws it
Unknown Speaker 20:26
Byron Jones 20:27
Oh, every time without a doubt. They know that. If he pulls him aside, just go. I’ll get it down there. Don’t worry. It’s
Unknown Speaker 20:35
taken a shot. Right.
Unknown Speaker 20:36
Does it all the time? Yeah,
Victor Arocho 20:39
he’s um, he’s having a great season. Let me tell you, I like Aaron Rodgers. And imagine the season or just his career these had sitting for for not playing for for those years.
Byron Jones 20:52
Steve Young did the same thing with Montana up there in San Francisco. He sat for a while.
Unknown Speaker 20:57
I don’t think it was for
Byron Jones 20:58
all it was four years, but it was close. Yeah, I
Victor Arocho 21:01
heard he was a it was a challenge. he’s a he’s always in the ear getting in getting in getting in getting in. He still was no Montana. No matter.
Unknown Speaker 21:14
He’s still in the Hall of Fame, though.
Victor Arocho 21:16
I mean, he was great, great lefty quarterback and he could run and he was they were excited. Remember, man they can’t during that era was always against the Giants or? It was either San Francisco the NFC East?
Byron Jones 21:28
Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, Dallas, Dallas Washington giants and no eagles.
Victor Arocho 21:35
Exactly. And no eagles. Alrighty, so Alright, so now we got I want to talk a little bit about the AFC East. Oh, wait a second. I want to finish that one. Washington. Okay. Washington’s in first. Okay. And I want to go back to what we already talked about that Washington is in first place they got Next up is the Seahawks the Panthers in the Eagles so they seem to have a little lighter schedule
Unknown Speaker 21:59
of a lot life
Byron Jones 22:01
that for that they have those four guys on for number one picks are going to put a lot of pressure on Russell Wilson. Who’s the other guy Russell Wilson. Wilson.
Victor Arocho 22:12
Okay. You got a Seahawks. And then the Panthers which is Terry Bridgewater. Yep. Mm hmm. And then you got you got the?
Byron Jones 22:21
Yes. Jalen hertz. So those
Unknown Speaker 22:24
four guys pretty well. So they did a good job.
Byron Jones 22:26
Did I hear it right here every day?
Unknown Speaker 22:30
Victor Arocho 22:30
I’m sure they’re putting a statue up yet.
Unknown Speaker 22:34
Yeah, it’s already started.
Victor Arocho 22:37
I’m sure I’m sure Justin will be happy happy to hear that.
Byron Jones 22:40
Yes. Is in front of Tony boys down the street.
Victor Arocho 22:43
Are you gonna send me a you know, freeze a Philly cheesesteak for me? Yeah, they have that concerns me. So I don’t understand they still have us a higher chance of winning the conference though.
Byron Jones 22:58
Daniel Jones heard
Unknown Speaker 23:01
our offensive chord coordinator hands it back out.
Byron Jones 23:06
So this game your lesson? You know, the defense has got to be really special this week because cleavers gonna try to run the ball not try to they’re gonna they’re gonna try to run the ball. And as long as we if we can keep them under 20 points, you know, we have a chance to win the game. You know if I’ll call McCoy. You know, it’s gonna be the starter, but we don’t keep them on the 20 of shootouts. like they’ve had the last couple games but cleaver is gonna get it might get
Victor Arocho 23:30
ugly quit. Yeah, yeah. You don’t want to personally you just can’t have I don’t think we’re a team to have a shootout with anyone. You know, my magic number is gonna keep it on the 24 I win games even under the good
Unknown Speaker 23:44
anything open up the hose if we keep it on there. We got a chance.
Victor Arocho 23:49
Right? Anything over that? There’s no chance. number one number two, you there’s not a quarterback. I don’t care if it’s Dan Jones healthy or Colt McCoy. You can be in a gunfight with Baker Mayfield. No, you know I I’m not a Browns fan. I don’t I can’t say I like or not like Baker Mayfield but I’m happy he’s having a successful season because they were all over him early. Maybe that comes with fame and all the commercials he has and they were just complaining about them that makes more he’s more concerned with his commercials and so forth. And I will never forget him going to like us. You know, I don’t get it. This is the worst foreign to Team I’ve ever been.
Byron Jones 24:34
remembered one thing how What? Why are they playing? Well now? Think about it. We talked about this before
Victor Arocho 24:40
I look, you know, it’s sad. The only thing I can think is Odell.
Byron Jones 24:46
There you go. They’re playing well now because you don’t have that guy running back to the Hello. I’m hoping you know, you don’t have that guy. He’s not that guy and the guy is here and look at what we’re playing but
Victor Arocho 24:58
yeah, it’s awesome. Hey, it’s also good. I don’t know, though, because, you know, they didn’t also the first several games didn’t target him a lot. So I mean, that’s Odell Beckham thrown the ball. They did targeted Blimey, I was like, he’s not going to be because I know he’s diva. But no, I can’t say I know but he’s got that diva personality right datin throw a lot. He didn’t throw a lot this way. So I thought that was gonna cause like, a controversy as opposed to him getting hurt, but he was not getting a lot of looks.
Unknown Speaker 25:36
Byron Jones 25:37
have you heard a little bit you know, cuz you know, he’s a little fragile Leto. You know, he got hurt every year. So it’s been a week pretty much and maybe you know, he had no tight hamstring or something’s wrong with them where they weren’t targeted as much. But now I’m you know, just great player then Yo, I’m feel bad that he’s out now because you figured he really probably wanted to play up here two giants that show out, you know, here, but you know, next time you know,
Victor Arocho 26:07
I just but they’re playing fantastic jobs killing it. And that’s the other thing you don’t know. Maybe it wasn’t ngmodel maybe it was just a debt running game was because I didn’t hear Chubbs name as much as I am hearing now. I mean, he’s tearing it up.
Byron Jones 26:22
Good back him and both of a Kareem hunt both of them backs know that they have a really really good so they don’t have one that one back where you’re going to run him into the ground. You could bring yo this one does this and this one can run and catch the ball which creeper can do. And you know they’re running to their strength right now is running the ball.
Victor Arocho 26:43
Yeah, I mean, um, yeah. I, I think that if the if they know I lost my train of thought I apologize. Oh, Cleveland. I’m dayla good. I mean, it just did the this has been a crazy season. Right where you know, Pittsburgh, right. Pittsburgh was,
Unknown Speaker 27:05
Victor Arocho 27:06
big Murphy says this is the worst for two team I’m on. And Pittsburgh was the worst undefeated team I’ve seen.
Unknown Speaker 27:15
Victor Arocho 27:16
not undefeated now. But they’re not they’re not playing well. I mean, they weren’t really playing well. Like, like they were just ugly winning teams, right. I just happen for Mike Tomlin. But now you’re starting to see some of the change. The one who hasn’t been affected the most I think has been affected. The least has been Kansas City.
Byron Jones 27:38
They’re still they’re doing what make makes them run. Patrick mahomes. No, Kareem Han Kelsey. They got ryrie kill.
Unknown Speaker 27:47
He’s the bullet.
Unknown Speaker 27:49
he’s a he’s a beast. You’re all five foot two. Yeah, you got to catch him.
Victor Arocho 27:53
Well, there’s some crazy part is that remember, like you said they know when the quarterback is in trouble. So someone can come across. It’s almost like Tyree kill and Patrick mahomes they’re on this like, Listen, I’m gonna look for what I look put go deep. I’ll throw the ball.
Byron Jones 28:13
You got a guy he can throw what 60 7080 yards in air? What if all the receivers do? I’d be like
Victor Arocho 28:21
yeah, just can’t go fast. He’s
Byron Jones 28:25
thrown as far as you can I get it. Don’t worry about it.
Victor Arocho 28:29
And he can throw it Hey, I remember when when Randy moss was with the Patriots and Brady and Brady threw the ball and Brady because you know I threw that ball really hard. I just didn’t realize how fast wrenching balls it’s okay that guy was God get oh my god six foot 440 inch vertical ran like a four three or something. I mean a guy was he was incredible. Mawson everybody okay, so the so we got the Ravens so we got those two coming up and then we got the Eagles to Washington’s got Seattle Panthers and eagles. Well, let’s see what’s happening here. The AFC East is starting to now it’s coming down to Buffalo and the dolphins. The dolphins are playing well. I like to the way he’s been playing. I mean they lost the last game but they’re playing well. And Boston Josh Allen’s on fire. That’s a scary team.
Byron Jones 29:33
Especially if you got to play them up in Buffalo in the wintertime. When it starts snowing like crazy up there because most likely they’re gonna host you know, they know they’re gonna host the first game up in Buffalo so I’m sure they’re gonna be like You know what, I hope it snows like crazy here because a kid Josh their quarterback played in Wyoming so he’s used to playing and you know whether like that, but you know to be a Miami guy, Miami guy to come up here and play the snow and Sleep, you know, you want to hurry and get off the feet. You don’t want to tap. Yeah, I know what it felt like I’ve had it happen where, you know, I played
Unknown Speaker 30:05
in the cold.
Byron Jones 30:08
But but it’s different. You know, when you sit there you like, you know you tackle somebody like oh Lord that hurt, you know, it seems like when you when it’s cold, everything hurts even more.
Unknown Speaker 30:19
Like a lot more.
Victor Arocho 30:21
exactly what’s why you won’t be able to feel, right. I don’t want many guys sitting that stick even with those big old coats if you’re not playing. I rather I rather have no coat and be on the field. You know. So we’ll see what happened with Josh Allen’s Isa awful, it looks good. You know, they look good, regardless of whether it’s the Patriots where the Patriots are. And I think two is doing a great job that’s really doing and then and back to the Eagles. Jalen hertz. Um, you know, I don’t know, Justice coming on today or not. But, you know, I’m back to what I said originally with two and Fitzpatrick, I think Jalen hertz had, obviously had the majority of the snaps, that makes a difference,
Byron Jones 31:09
it does make a big difference, you know, when you’re just doing run on the scout team stuff, you’re running other team stuff, and, you know, toward the end of practice, I will ego you know, we will give you these 10 plays here on this, you know, you can’t, you know, you can’t get you know, like, like a feel for you know, what you’re gonna run by just doing 10 plays at the end of the, whatever is a scripted practice that they have. But now because, you know, he’s the guy last week where you know, he got the majority of the snaps, now you can see what he can do, he can run the ball, he he’s a runner, he’s a runner, anything, he throw the ball a lot better than when he first was at Alabama when it’s kind of and then when he went to Oklahoma, now all of a sudden, you know, he’s lightening up, you know, throwing the ball, but you know, he can run the ball, and it’s not be perfect now, because the weather is changing up here with all the snow. And, you know, it might fit in with him, you know, being the quarterback now running the ball a little bit more, I
Victor Arocho 32:05
also think it helps that the, I think the team was was I think they would be ready for a change. And like you said they would have saw something in practice. And I think you know, I don’t know, you know, as a player Do you sometimes get pissed off when you see $100 million quarterback playing like crap, and you’re losing in a lot like conference? Because, you know, after the game, a lot of those players were excited about having champion
Byron Jones 32:32
because he no young kid, you know, he’s gonna be excited, you know, that he started, you know, he’s playing now. And you just bring a little bit more juice, you know, just just a little bit more juice. But that’s the problem right here we got in Philadelphia is that you got $107 million quarterback? What are you gonna do with them? Because it’s capped number, like 2024. So it’s not likely to trade him or release them? or do whatever, they can’t do it. Because they have to eat all that money.
Victor Arocho 32:58
Yeah, he’s gonna get paid like 24 30 million extra
Byron Jones 33:01
crazy amount. So what are you gonna do? You’re gonna, you know, put them on the sidelines for the next two years. You get rid of them?
Victor Arocho 33:09
I don’t know. See, if you ask if you ask Justin in the crew, they’re gonna like Yeah.
Byron Jones 33:17
They’re gonna they’re gonna know. Oh, yeah, see how things play out? And then I’m probably entertained. Do some offers in the offseason, you know, for Jalen not know for Carson Wentz to see you know if this guy plays well, but, uh,
Victor Arocho 33:34
nobody’s gonna take Carson for that money.
Unknown Speaker 33:37
Does does too much. Yes.
Victor Arocho 33:38
So if anything, they’re gonna have the sad part. If there’s anything you’d have to trade Jalen, though, but why would you trade, you better treat you but the problem is they leveraged the team that they’re going to be bad for a couple more years.
Byron Jones 33:52
Because they shouldn’t have gave that guy that kind of money. You know, not knowing that you know what he’s going through, you know, what he’s been through. Now, as far as the Super Bowl. That was Nick foles. That went him. You know, he was having an MVP season all the way until he got hurt. But Nick foles is what brought it home. It wasn’t him.
Unknown Speaker 34:07
It’s all that matters.
Victor Arocho 34:09
dollar matters. Um, do you also think that with Jalen besides being a great athlete and and not discrediting to the game he had, but also there’s got to be something into the fact that maybe it’s not that easy to pivot your defense between one type of quarterback to another. I mean, you may have some similar plays a lot of the same place. You still got a different dynamic in the quarterback now you got to watch out for a runner, compared to where before he was dropped back. You don’t really fear. You didn’t fear him running.
Byron Jones 34:44
But earlier in his career was, you know, a bit about like, when’s he could run a ball when he played. He played in North Dakota State, he could run the ball. I don’t know what happened. Now where you know, all of a sudden, it just fell apart or he got bad weird Now, you know, he had the need, you know, injury, that he doesn’t trust yourself the way he does. But you also have on the other the flip side is that you have a lot of defensive coordinators now because they knew Jalen hertz was there, that, you know, they’re going to look at film, though, as far as you know, when he played Alabama and Oklahoma, that they’re going to be ready for him, you know, come to game as far away this guy can run and you know, he’ll take off and run if you give a chance. So prepare for it. But it’s just, you know, being prepared for it. And when you actually see it, and feel it is two different things.
Victor Arocho 35:35
It’s like, yeah, it’s like preparing against back we were talking about they were saying preparing against michael vick was very difficult because not only was he lefthand you didn’t have someone as fast as him that can play look team quarterback. So, you know, defensively, you know, you’d have to have like a running back play coordinate somebody play a different position because you couldn’t prepare for that.
Byron Jones 36:03
Or the fastest guy on your team. You put your practice if you’re gonna play michael vick this week, so whatever you know, run 900 miles that way, that way, but we want to try to get a feel for
Victor Arocho 36:17
any could throw deep, very deep my mica through deep and let me tell you something. You know, I love when he played it was like it was electrifying to me. It was like to find the things that I’ve seen him do Saturday was unable to get to the Super Bowl, but he was some hell of a quarterback resurrected in Mina in Philadelphia,
Byron Jones 36:41
though the City of Brotherly Love.
Unknown Speaker 36:43
Oh yeah, they gave him 100 million contract to pay.
Unknown Speaker 36:48
He though we don’t care. What did you take that might
Victor Arocho 36:52
take him $100 million contract after one year. Right. I think he came in for somebody. No, no. He came in somebody got injured. Michael Vick came in and he wasn’t making a lot back then. But at that point, he lit it up. I gotta find out who he was.
Unknown Speaker 37:12
I figured out Well,
Victor Arocho 37:13
yeah. He came in for somebody and just lit it up. No different than it means big difference between him and Doug Flutie. But you know, when Doug Flutie was with the Buffalo Bills, he was a backup quarterback. His his salary was $600,000 as backup quarterbacks quarterback got hurt, and that was your he took him all the way through the playoffs? Well, because of his incentives. He got a bonus $2 million bonus check based on the fact that he was able to play get him to the playoff. You know, all the stipulations they have but all did on top of and if he doesn’t get that opportunity, I was like the quarterback doesn’t get hurt. But also you still got to perform. So it was pretty interesting how he went from, you know, 600,000 to 2.4 million. Mike with Vig went from I forgot five, 6 million to $100 million. They like that number 100 million affiliates.
Byron Jones 38:10
leaves a nice round number somebody give me $100 million. I take it
Unknown Speaker 38:14
I’ll take any million rounds it
Unknown Speaker 38:18
Victor Arocho 38:19
So how to Philadelphia fans? What are they doing? What are they?
Byron Jones 38:23
I was talking to one last night when I was out there, you know with this Blizzard going on? And you know, of course what a you know Jaylen Harris you know he looks like that guy you know like oh geez, here we go. And he just started he’s like you know they should have made that move to them a long time ago you know when says a bum you know, they gave him all that money. You know, I don’t know why they gave him all that money. But yeah, I’m glad you know, they made that move to Jalen hertz so I heard that last night that I heard it this morning again from a different guy outside What’s the news? What’s a nuisance or anything same thing you know pretty much you know that they feel that you know it was time to make the move you know this guy’s and they’re worried about all the money that he makes as far as that what we talked about before the salary cap they’re looking to get rid of this guy you know somehow some way he’s got to go
Victor Arocho 39:12
the only way he’s gonna go soutien he didn’t know they got DAC and keep DAC I’m trying to think where do you think who’s got the money to take
Byron Jones 39:21
Jacksonville Ah, right down there right down the road man the
Victor Arocho 39:29
way you know you’re gonna take Jacksonville you already took a Philly quarterback that what a Super Bowl and was lousy
Unknown Speaker 39:37
you and you paid Oh,
Byron Jones 39:40
this guy’s a lot younger you know younger Yeah, he’s got more of upside You know, I’m trying to sell him the Jacksonville now. I’m warming upside down. You know, he’s a proven quarterback and you know, he’d be under contract for the next three or four years. So you know, what’s the what’s the hurt
Victor Arocho 39:58
I don’t know. I think the If I was the same i’d waited out. Right let him let them eat that next year’s salary, but still 20 for
Unknown Speaker 40:11
Byron Jones 40:14
They’re not gonna then he will not be sitting around Philadelphia making that kind of money and Jalen hertz is the guy. There’s no way
Victor Arocho 40:20
that he’s okay. So play out some scenarios. He’s really think someone’s gonna take them though. Yeah, like they’re gonna pay him that kind of money.
Byron Jones 40:30
Well, he’s already under contract. So why would he have to worry about Pam? Pam? No, now they’ve accepted responsibility to give this guy all that money.
Victor Arocho 40:38
But wait a second. How does it work? Philadelphia pays I
Byron Jones 40:42
don’t know, whatever the next team that he goes to will be paying him.
Victor Arocho 40:46
Right. So that’s okay. That’s what I thought they’re, they’re picking up his contract at the value that yes, Billy got it. My question to you is, why would someone want to pick up that contract? For Carson Wentz?
Byron Jones 41:02
Because maybe somebody so you always had that coach out there that thinks they can fix somebody? Like they’re ready to run it Jimmy g out in San Francisco you know out the door every year in the last two or three years poor guy you know he’s done none but no one had his moments he’s heard all the time. You don’t think Shanahan like You know what? I can get this guy. He can run my hearts out there. Yeah, I’m throwing different like San Francisco. You got Jacksonville needs a quarterback, I’m sure I thought about it’s probably a bunch of other teams that need quarterback so that you always have the head coach that would that offensive minded head coach that feels like they can fix somebody. And then they isn’t their money.
Unknown Speaker 41:41
Um, for 20.
Victor Arocho 41:42
You mentioned San Francisco and speaking of San Francisco, they did the same thing with Alex Smith. At Smith NFC Championship and they got rid of
Unknown Speaker 41:54
next year out the door.
Victor Arocho 41:56
He went to Kansas City did a good job of Kansas City. Outdoor and he’s at Washington. He’s doing
Unknown Speaker 42:02
a pretty good job.
Byron Jones 42:04
This is probably this is his last stop. So, you know, he’s been a good quarterback. You know, his whole career, y’all
Victor Arocho 42:10
unfortunately, scars, early career he he had it hard. He was a big boy was it? You know, that’s when Utah was delivering all those quarters? Carson used
Byron Jones 42:21
to play for what’s it mean to Meyer? Meyer? Right at Utah? Okay, yeah. We’ll see. We’ll see what the future holds.
Victor Arocho 42:34
Yeah, I am just, you know, I think that I guess somebody will pick but you say for three years. That’s like, that’s $75 million. You’re picking up a $75 million quarterback.
Byron Jones 42:48
But how many other teams already have a $75 billion or $100 million
Victor Arocho 42:51
quarterback? They already got? Yeah, yeah,
Byron Jones 42:53
there’s so much I’ve already all you do is just pick you know, I hear we assume responsibility to go Jackson. throw that out there. He’s gonna jack
Victor Arocho 43:00
well, Jackson appellee didn’t they pay falls on me?
Byron Jones 43:03
And they gotta pay somebody that they’re gonna pay when they’re gonna get another guy from you go second.
Victor Arocho 43:07
Let me ask you guys in that, can they take his contract and actually pay him? Like he says, No, I want another 100 not 100 million, but I want
Byron Jones 43:17
to go there. So Oh, yeah. What, um, you know, my contract renewed my contract. Okay. He’s going to do it. I laugh about the room. Yeah. Okay, whatever.
Unknown Speaker 43:25
Get out of here.
Unknown Speaker 43:28
Your Oh my God.
Unknown Speaker 43:29
That’s funny. All right. Let’s
Victor Arocho 43:31
get on to college down in Tulsa. So anything happened with Tulsa. You said they were going to the conference. And I played?
Byron Jones 43:38
Yeah, they play this weekend against Cincinnati for the American Athletic Conference Championship, because they’re supposed to play a regular game last week, because of COVID. They couldn’t Cincinnati, but it could play. So then this was already scheduled. So they’ll be playing for the conference championship.
Victor Arocho 43:55
Awesome Western ranking random
Unknown Speaker 43:57
Victor Arocho 43:58
So if they win this conference,
Byron Jones 44:01
then they’ll move up a little bit, and then I’ll get to go to a tidy bowl out house bowl or 100. I got to go to a big bowl game. Yeah, they’re already positive.
Victor Arocho 44:10
As long as they go to vote, because I would hate to go 11 and one and not go to ball.
Unknown Speaker 44:14
I know. I know. I know.
Victor Arocho 44:19
Oh, man, and I want to get into something else on the college football but I just wanted to ask you about the Army Navy. You know, I started I seen
Unknown Speaker 44:30
Victor Arocho 44:30
day the Army Navy game and it was awesome what they’re starting to do now. Like they’re making it they’re starting to make it a big event. Like I kind of felt guilty of not wanting watching that game is as big as I am into, you know, big believer, the military and so forth. But what they’re doing now with the Army Navy, each year, it’s like that game is becoming you know, you know how commercials are the Superbowl is becoming the the uniform uniform or have you seen it? Yeah. Okay, that’s awesome some of those uniforms
Unknown Speaker 45:07
well look we’ll start there Under Armour
Byron Jones 45:11
look at all the crazy uniform they have like Oregon was like the one of the big ones were all in crazy calling the other green and yellow and purple and all the other colors they had
Unknown Speaker 45:19
Byron Jones 45:20
and then Marilyn to I think Under Armour yeah Marilyn was another one but that were all the different uniform and stuff but that’s pretty sharp. You know that you know, the military guys you know can go out.
Victor Arocho 45:32
skylight is right I liked it because she was truly like serving Navy unless you were an Army Navy guy. you’d watch boba but because of that interest it now piqued my interest of wanting to watch it I wanted to name it was like one of those things that it will love to be as a tradition of the country to say you know let’s watch the army nails or guys right? And they’re smart This is smart. And guys who are protecting us like this those are the top guys
Byron Jones 46:01
you should see the game when it looks like playing in Philadelphia normally you should they’re all over the place right here when they when they come in you know like the week before the game you’ll see the mini the Navy guys army guys. Oh, you know downtown for a little over five. But then when they march in now, the way they come in and then fill their seats. way to do that is impressive. Oh really? Oh, yeah. You there’s nothing like it.
Victor Arocho 46:24
Even Have you been to an Army Navy game. One time? Oh, wow.
Byron Jones 46:28
There’s nothing there’s nothing like that, you know, they talk about, you know, the iron bowl with, you know, Alabama and you know, O’Byrne and USC UCLA, and you know, you know, all these different things, but there’s nothing like no matter how bad the teams are, you know, oh, and nine or 10 or whatever, but there’s nothing like watching those guys marching, you know, guys and girls, marching, you know, to the, to the stadium and then, you know, fill the steek seats, all of them are dressed the same look exactly the same. And they’re rooting you know, Army, and navy and you know, to have the flyover and all kinds of stuff to want everybody to play that game. But you know, I was really impressed.
Victor Arocho 47:02
I’m glad I brought that up. I want to go to a game now.
Unknown Speaker 47:05
You have to go to get at least one.
Victor Arocho 47:06
I got to go to one game. What No, why did you say they sometimes play in Philly? Why?
Byron Jones 47:11
Because now with the COVID thing, they moved the game up to army that was the first time I think they said to play it up an army like since 1943. Or whatever. They actually play the game up there. Normally it’s in like Philadelphia, either Philly or like Washington, DC or wherever. Right?
Victor Arocho 47:26
Is that the Navy field?
Unknown Speaker 47:28
What the Air Force? I mean, Philly.
Unknown Speaker 47:31
Yeah. Oh, it’s
Byron Jones 47:32
the equal stadium. I played right over here.
Victor Arocho 47:35
Oh, so they always playing in a stadium? Let’s say it’s like it’s an event. They don’t play just in their own fields or something like that.
Unknown Speaker 47:42
It’s always someplace off. Oh, so it’s kind of neutral that? Oh, yeah.
Victor Arocho 47:48
Interesting. Yeah, I was reading up is to see if Marines play in and they said not too many Marine, like, bring their own like little football thing. But
Byron Jones 47:56
like, a lot of the guys are getting ready to be commissioned officers. A lot of them are Marines that are playing on a football team. Actually, you know, they either commit to either the Marine Corps or the Navy while they’re at the Naval Academy.
Victor Arocho 48:07
Oh, so you kind of go regardless, if you go in as a second lieutenant, and you make it into the Academy,
Byron Jones 48:14
you’ll either be a Marine, or the Navy is, you know, whatever you choose.
Victor Arocho 48:18
Oh, yeah, I was trying to I was trying to read up on that. And I didn’t know I thought it was awesome. Those uniforms were incredible. that caught my attention. that caught my attention to want to watch the game caught my attention to talk about it. It caught my attention to like you know, as a country we should kind of all watch that now more interesting because you told me because I seen it. Right? But you don’t think much of it right until you till it comes to light.
Unknown Speaker 48:43
Gotta go to a game you
Victor Arocho 48:45
know that you tell me about going into game and I love that. You know, like I’ve been Super Bowls where or or World Series where they had the flyovers. Those are my favorite. When the Miami when the when the Super Bowls or major games are down here in Miami. And they do a flyover. They come right over my house.
Unknown Speaker 49:07
Victor Arocho 49:07
Because it’s all they have to get enough space. Right. So I’m close enough to the stadium but far enough to the stadium for them to have to fly over to it’s it’s amazing. And it’s loud. But I mean, I’m not they’re not that close. But it’s awesome watching them come by man.
Byron Jones 49:25
You got to go to Army Navy game. There’s nothing like it.
Victor Arocho 49:30
Folks, Army, Navy support military, but you got to go out again. Are you going to support a military, but it’s an incredible experience. According to my buddy and co host Byron Jones a fellow thing.
Unknown Speaker 49:40
It’s the first week of December. It’s kind of chilly out there. You
Victor Arocho 49:46
can get tickets. I’m good with that. And then the next thing on the college I wanted to get to as we sort of wrap this up a little bit is because I want to get to the NBA athletes. What do you think about them talking about the a valley one Go to a game playoff.
Byron Jones 50:03
I think it’s a good thing because now they might include coastal counter Carolina throw them out there because they’re undefeated in the top 10. You know, it might give an opportunity for those teams that you never thought would be, you know, one of the big four. Now the st. Yell Alabama, Clemson, Georgia at Ohio State, that’s just what you’ve seen. Seems like every year now with them expanding, you know, another four maybe might be, you know what Notre Dame’s up there now,
Unknown Speaker 50:28
but the coastal Carolina’s
Unknown Speaker 50:31
the University of Tulsa, or a couple of other teams that you’ve never really heard about, but I’ve been playing well, this year,
Victor Arocho 50:38
the year that UCF says that they were the national champions.
Unknown Speaker 50:42
Yeah, like just
Unknown Speaker 50:45
a prime example.
Victor Arocho 50:47
Were Boise State was the state of a lot of those teams, you
Unknown Speaker 50:51
never know, everything that’s, you know, they
Unknown Speaker 50:53
snuck up on Oklahoma year.
Byron Jones 50:56
And you have a lot of teams out there that know what all we need is a chance. You know, that’s, and he gives me
Victor Arocho 51:02
All I’m saying is they better be careful what they ask for.
Unknown Speaker 51:07
Once you get in between those pipelines, you know, anything can happen. No, no,
Victor Arocho 51:11
I understand that. But you know, the SEC did win seven, eight years in a row the national championship because that conference was a strong so you imagine an Alabama being number one or a Clemson number one going against a number eight? See?
Unknown Speaker 51:27
Never know any given
Victor Arocho 51:29
sadly, that’s true. That is true. It’s just you know, you want to make sure that those playoff games are good, because it’ll be a lot of people hammered.
Byron Jones 51:38
That’d be all right. They’ll get over it. But
Victor Arocho 51:40
yeah, but it’s sure they said it’ll be good, we’ll give more chances to teams to be able to play, then you’re gonna have the other argument about the money. But anyway, I just want to see your opinion. I
Unknown Speaker 51:52
think it’s good to,
Unknown Speaker 51:53
you know, at
Unknown Speaker 51:53
least you got
Victor Arocho 51:54
a top 25 right. I mean, you got, you know, only 20% have a shot.
Unknown Speaker 52:01
But, you know, he cried about this anyway,
Byron Jones 52:04
you have 900 ballgames. So you know, you have 120 teams, you’ll get to go to bowl, all you got to do is win what five or six games and everybody’s,
Unknown Speaker 52:14
Victor Arocho 52:17
well, you know, it’s for them to play. It’s good for the kids and so forth. But at the end of the day, it’s just Yeah, and it’s more game those kids feel good about it, right? They get free stuff, you know, we’ll bring and don’t
Unknown Speaker 52:31
be the best
Victor Arocho 52:33
they’ll be the best in the country is the deal. Alright, so you want to go over a few of our hometown boys, you know, again, I want to shout out to gave me some light the Nemeth family, the resco family. The gators family that was the first three families we started also the Taylor family. There’s still more families as we keep going, but and there’s more athletes i’m not i’m not excluding athletes. I am just saying I learned that it’s like my friends are the grandkids of the players that played in my hometown that were actually that were good, right that’s in the same town that was that that made me feel good to know their grandkids or their kids. It all depended on
Byron Jones 53:23
right? But we have a new edition we have I forgot about that before and I got it I got a text not a text I got like an email whatever from somebody not to mention this family to garrison family is another family that was no big in Amboy
Unknown Speaker 53:37
go back. I mean, they must have been listening then. Yeah, I
Byron Jones 53:40
think the garrison family you’re gonna do the Taylor family revenue over Penny father’s window, Urbanski. Karthi family as far as football, baseball, basketball is another family that was great and everything. I’ve been told a basketball biller family, you know, from Perth Amboy the name of family again?
Unknown Speaker 54:01
Yeah, a win win field.
Byron Jones 54:04
But we’ll get rid of my 1960s team got it right here. Like 1960s team, you might remember Bruce Taylor all pro from Boston University plays San Francisco 40 Niners is all 67 Jayson new ski you know Jay, here big attorney, big a big attorney big, big
Victor Arocho 54:22
big time I shake his hand, man, I felt like it was squashed. He’s like shaking your head.
Byron Jones 54:28
Big Jay. You know, he went to Notre Dame on football by
Victor Arocho 54:31
the way. This is for Perth Amboy High School, New Jersey. So in Perth Amboy, New Jersey. These are athletes from our hometown that go back several generations and we can start coming up to the earlier ones but some of these families have like three four levels deep.
Byron Jones 54:46
So that big Jade went to Notre Dame football scholarship, no lawyer, well, one let’s go minutes pitcher is still working over there. That’s Alan Goldsmith. Mr. Goldsmith was all counted and I think it was all state with that. He’s a little guy when big guy, you know, he’s big and he’s still in the community person, but you know, does a lot for the Jewish community there, just to Goldsmith Ronnie garrison. That was one of the guy who wanted to families and it was talking about David or lo ski was another guy. You know, from back in the day and football I think was football and baseball. What happens? Well, George Carlin No, George and Bruce Karthi. That’s another one of the family members coming to Perth Amboy. Pete Sabina was a very good quarterback. Now toward the end of the 60s. So we’ve covered the 60s most. All right.
Unknown Speaker 55:34
Well, last week, we
Victor Arocho 55:35
did the 40s in the 50s. Right.
Unknown Speaker 55:37
We’re gonna go to 60s and 70s.
Unknown Speaker 55:38
Byron Jones 55:39
We have a I mentioned this last time central jersey group for champs in 1946 48. They were that’s what Lou gatos, back we talked about last week. 1952 they were co champions. Perth Amboy. The 1960s 1965 they were a group for which was the biggest group in the state. They were second place in 1965 and 1966. They were group for champs 1967 group for champs 1968 who for champs. Wow. Oh, they were Yeah, they were powerhouse. So we get up to my 17 guys. We have lap remote car. Somebody sent me something out there. Remember to remind the throw him out there because I forgot about him. It was
Victor Arocho 56:23
a great I told you we were really
Byron Jones 56:26
able to throw it it was killer. Yeah, it was baseball, football and basketball. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My man Chris. You know, he passed away a few years ago. I Clifton Winfield. Yeah, great play. He played it. Um, he went to school, Wyoming. It was another great player, rake.
Unknown Speaker 56:42
There’s the winfields also.
Unknown Speaker 56:43
Yes, me Sammy.
Victor Arocho 56:45
Sammy Winfield was an excellent receiver. He’s an athlete, a baseball, right. He was he was related. Yes, that
Byron Jones 56:53
was his uncle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, about Ray pietra. Remember Pietro? Yeah, yeah, Pedro. A big rig is in ski almost, you know, Ray Ray went to Purdue. Yeah, I think he was a baseball player as well. Big dude, man. He’s lightning speed man. I mean, he was I had to block this guy. I was like a sophomore or freshman or whatever medical practice with these guys that are joma savage was another guy that he was a running back and linebacker. He went to Cisco, Susquehanna University. You know, Joe,
Unknown Speaker 57:23
you know, he’s
Byron Jones 57:23
still around. Yeah, I think he mama county somewhere that
Victor Arocho 57:26
la Susquehanna University.
Unknown Speaker 57:28
I bet you don’t have an 80 yard punt return on each round bird.
Victor Arocho 57:35
No, that’s where I was. Gotcha when the end up going. But no, this is when I was at Uppsala.
Byron Jones 57:39
Okay. Anthony Lester. I’m a filmer man. Aunty Lester out there. That’s color. We’re going to mention her later. Carla Taylor. Well, Williamson, she was one of the great track players. No track runners in our day. But her brother, Anthony Lester. Mo. He’s a good friend of mo Brian.
Victor Arocho 57:56
Okay. Very good friend. And honestly, sounds for me. I think I know very well. Yeah.
Byron Jones 58:02
Yeah. Mark hawrelak. Big mark. Oh, yeah. clemson. clemson.
Unknown Speaker 58:08
He was in the 70s. Yeah,
Byron Jones 58:09
he’s late 70s. And he went to, he went to Clemson and then he’s also an Army Ranger. He was in the military. After he went in. We play football. They have a Howard Diller. You got one Polanco. Once at University of Pittsburgh. I had blocked us on a big obese. He was obese, but he was he was, he was bruff. He was he was probably the biggest and strongest guy that I ever had to go up against. I’m talking about at all for you All the love he was he was that big, and that strong in high school. And I have to do a shout out to my 1979. Guys, that’s me. The whole entire team all you know, Ernie resco. Adam, merrily. I know Adam early Michael Jones. Glen Richardson, the first big shut down quarterback back in the day, Glen,
Victor Arocho 58:56
Amanda Glenn’s a good guy. We gotta get him money. He went to our
Byron Jones 58:59
Oh, yeah. Number our Norberto Rosado was another guy with the white shoes. You know, he was cool. You know, with the white shoes back in the day. Mo Brian on the same when Eddie Lopez. Lopez. He was a year before me and he Lopez. I heard he was a great hitter. Oh, yeah. Oh, he’d like to out by to. Eduardo Trujillo at one. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 59:21
Byron Jones 59:22
Yeah, he played it. He was the kicker. He was one of the first ones with the square toe shoe.
Unknown Speaker 59:27
No, he kicked. Oh, yeah.
Byron Jones 59:29
He kicked editorially. Oh, yes, he did.
Unknown Speaker 59:31
No, I didn’t even know he was on the team. Oh, yeah. He was on a team. But
Byron Jones 59:35
now that 1979 team went we went five and four and I was at first winning season since 1968.
Victor Arocho 59:42
Yeah, that was the year back. I was coming in. I got him early. I wanted that position. He was a tight end and defensive end. There was no reason that I should have played either one of those positions. I wasn’t as big as Adam was. I could catch it I could run I should. I should have played receiver or quarterback i did i got paranoid as a freshman.
Byron Jones 1:00:08
But But our biggest person, right probably here is gonna go out next to Taylor’s. And also Nate ran. They ran at 52 sacks at Rutgers University in the 70s. When they didn’t throw the ball that much. Wow, they don’t start they didn’t start counting sacks until 2000 or 2005. The FBS record for sacks is held by Terrelle Suggs with 46. Yeah, 52 in the 70s. That’s 13 a game isn’t it? Whatever, whatever crazy amount was, and all the FCS The record is 59 Division Two is 56. There Thomas Hall of Famer. The college had 52 sacks. tedy Bruschi had 52 and Bruce Smith Hall of Famer, well had 46 sacks. Wow. But may Taran was that dominant at Rutgers University in the seventh is what they did not throw the ball as much as they do now. And that was the Big East.
Victor Arocho 1:01:12
There back with that.
Unknown Speaker 1:01:14
I think we’re independent that
Victor Arocho 1:01:15
are awesome. Well, let’s see what we get shout out you know, we should we start listing some names on on our channels. I’m sure we’ll get more people coming out of though. You know, when works well, we have some talent. We definitely had some. Alrighty, so now we’re going to go I’m going to skip over some that. I’m going to just recap Atlas ended up with the NBA a little bit about I have to eat a little bit of crow. No, I don’t. They had the power rankings with the NBA and they got Miami like third or fourth. You know, they have the Lakers the nets, and then somebody else Oh, the Milwaukee and then the Miami Heat. So I was pretty happy to see that. It’s just funny that if I if I go and show you the list of right. teams, more teams have been spoken about and Miami’s not one of them.
Unknown Speaker 1:02:06
Victor Arocho 1:02:07
Yeah, they’re the number 14 right there like the fourth power rank team over Boston. They’re behind Milwaukee which has got geodes and behind the behind the Brooklyn Nets with Katy and Kyrie and Kyrie and then they’re behind the Lakers that are dominating. I mean, the Lakers are crazy good.
Byron Jones 1:02:28
But why do they just disrespected so much?
Victor Arocho 1:02:30
I just don’t make I don’t think they get disrespected. They just don’t they’re not bought. They don’t make any noise. Like you know, like, you know, Kyrie makes noise. Right. Waiting for Katie to come back is exciting. You know what, Brian and then we’re just playing great basketball. geodes is being taught he’s a great MVP player. They were wondering he just resigned for five years. They talked about the Clippers which are below the Miami Heat. Why? Because Paul George has signed $100 million contract they fired a coach they’re playing Okay, they’re still not really going out with their team is you got Golden State. They don’t talk about as much but clay got hurt. So Golden State so the other one like a Miami that’s a sneaker that’s gonna be coming out. Who else is talking about? Atlanta has got a young team with Trey young and and I haven’t had a chance to watch him. But I want to watch them now. They’re saying that the way they play, you know, the basketball I play, it looks like just a bunch of young kids lighted up with different basketball. So I don’t know if it’s much more of disrespect. And just think, because if they were disrespected, they wouldn’t be been voted in the power ring. Right? I just think that they’re not they’re, you know, they’re gonna sit they got enough money to make a monster trade.
Byron Jones 1:03:52
But if they have, they wouldn’t have. But they were in the NBA Finals. Right? Yeah. So you figure they were the last two teams standing them and the Lakers. So why wouldn’t they be one or two? Why would they be ranked that high?
Victor Arocho 1:04:08
Cuz they shocked the world. They didn’t think first of all, they shocked everybody by who they won, to. They shocked everybody in the manner that they beat these teams. Like they were sweeping through the east. Okay, so one thing that they beat Philadelphia, they beat Milwaukee though that was impressive. Although those sweeping through most of those teams.
Byron Jones 1:04:36
They thought they still should be ranked to the top three.
Victor Arocho 1:04:39
They’re in the top four because Yana state picked up some guys you know and they’re just Hey, I’ll take four I’m not worried about that. You know, I’m just when I saw the power rankings I just wonder because we’re above the Clippers were above a lot, a lot of the teams. So I just think it’s just they’re they’re quiet and then I was reading up that they got they got enough cops cap space that went The middle of the year that that things are starting to heat up. Riley’s hunting Oh, he’s got something up his sleeve because it’s just that one mix and they’re good as it is I mean they got every Pele are returning separate Jae Crowder and they replaced the guy that can do just as good and the kids that they have is turning 21 and the old ones turning 24 and Butler’s still young and then you got this they’re they’re in good shape. I like to see them do well. So we’re excited about seeing them how but I just wanted to tell you like we were talking they weren’t getting respect but being number four in the league. I’ll take it you know and and remember me Milwaukee was picked when the Eastern Conference last year. So jianna signing, they’ll get a few more players, but we were trying to get Yanis at one time he Okay. All right. So we’re getting ready for this week. So let’s see what we got. Let’s Okay, you’re gonna make your picture you would have made your pitch for what do you think is gonna happen guys this week as they
Unknown Speaker 1:06:07
Victor Arocho 1:06:08
Cleveland. So what do you think is gonna go on the last three games? What what one? Yeah, they got the browns, ravens and the Cowboys. Don’t beat the Cowboys. So I’m gonna go to one into one into one so what about Washington? Watch this playing the Panthers. They’re playing Hold on a second. It playing the Panther.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:35
What am I
Victor Arocho 1:06:36
missing my pay? Okay, they’re playing the the Seahawks the Panthers and eagles.
Unknown Speaker 1:06:43
Victor Arocho 1:06:45
they’re gonna take it there. Alrighty. So we’ll, we’ll see what happens. Alrighty, so we’re gonna wrap this up. Before we end the show, we always want to talk about the Gary Sinise foundation just kind of reminder by Gary Sinise, si, n. e. s. e.org. freedom and security are precious gifts that we as Americans should never take for granted. We must do all we can to extend our hand and times needs in times of need to those who are willingly sacrifice each day to provide that freedom and security. While we can never do enough to show gratitude to our nation’s defenders, we can always do a little more Gary Sony, Gary Sinise. So if you get a chance do a little donation, it helps out our first responders or military which which are key key component, especially in the things that are going around the world. As always, Byron I want to say thank you. I always look forward to these and I’m sure Perth Amboy is gonna be lit up. So you get when you send me those names. I’m gonna post them a little bit at a time so people could start coming in. So okay, so well. Yeah, yeah, after that he
Byron Jones 1:07:56
beat me upside the head. You know, I get those secret on the cover calls and texts is whatever else out there common?
Victor Arocho 1:08:03
Good. At least tell them to like the show. Like to sound like the show. Don’t tell them you’re gonna exclude the man. I’m not gonna come on the show and tell us who you want us to hear? If not, it’s your pick. You’re the you’re the Uranus worst cast.
Byron Jones 1:08:21
I’m the one. I’m the one who looked at all of that. And I had a few people that call me and say hey, well, don’t forget this guy. Don’t forget that. I had some people do that. But for some reason, you know, you got to have the ones that are your current fanboy people that are killing me all what Yeah, what? What about this?
Victor Arocho 1:08:35
What about that? So it’s our show. Sometimes you got to count the votes. Sometimes you weigh the votes, our vote weighs more. So they’re gonna figure it out. Or like the show, come on and show give us your reason why this person was really good, and so forth. We’re probably will leave you But come on, give them some love and support if you want to have people meant. Alrighty, so we’re going to be wrapping this up. So please, you can follow us on Twitter at the sports cast one and visit our website, the sports cast dotnet. Join us every Thursday at 8pm with more guests or more exciting shows. Find out who are the next Perth Amboy High School ballers during our time during the 1940s we’re proud of our town in New Jersey, we’re fortunate enough to grow up with a bunch of diversity. And people have, you know, people of all nationalities, races colors and I’m proud to be from there. It’s sad that you have to walk out of four square miles to find that there’s a different world out there.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:43
Victor Arocho 1:09:43
I mean, you know, we have some little hold was too close for comfort I guess. But again, please follow us on Twitter to sports cat sports cast that net visit us on our website at the sports cast next Thursday. 8pm same bat channel.
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Unknown Speaker 1:10:14
Unknown Speaker 1:10:15
All right, my man boy,
Unknown Speaker 1:10:16
I love you.
Unknown Speaker 1:10:17
Love you too. Bye
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